GirthGains;645882 said:
the body can only handle 25 grams of protein at a time unless a person is on steroids. The rest of the protein are stored in the body. Just in case anybody was wondering lol.

i have yet to see any scientific studies proving this. and i have seen it be debunked on several occasions.

and after testing it for my self where i divided my protein intake from 6 times a day. to 3 times a day for a 3 months period. and literally having absolutely no issues other tyhan having to eat bigger portions.

my personal conclusion is that either this study is showing a marginal effect so small that it is not to be concerned with (read your energy can be used better with other small details) or it has absolutely no effect at all.

im not gonna find the exact page. but in the book 4 hour body.

tim ferris (ye he is a populist. but that is basicly his whole philosophy. and he is not denying it)

but during his time with the mad scientist concepts he ends up running around with a probe in his stomach to reach out different values to a tablet he has.

this gives him the ability to see what his body is currrently doing with the food you are giving it.

example would be the fact that it takes the body up to 2 hours to process protein so it can be used. so the whole concept of a post protein workout shake. should actually be a pre workout protein shake as the "window" they talk about might be opened right after hard training. but if protein synthesis takes 2 hours or more. you are gonna miss it post workout shake.

thank you for taking out this idea.

this is the type of things i love to work with.

there is so many rules to follow. and people don't have time to test them all.

for me. this is a hobby and a passion
 
Aimingforthetop;645912 said:
i have yet to see any scientific studies proving this. and i have seen it be debunked on several occasions.

and after testing it for my self where i divided my protein intake from 6 times a day. to 3 times a day for a 3 months period. and literally having absolutely no issues other tyhan having to eat bigger portions.

my personal conclusion is that either this study is showing a marginal effect so small that it is not to be concerned with (read your energy can be used better with other small details) or it has absolutely no effect at all.

im not gonna find the exact page. but in the book 4 hour body.

tim ferris (ye he is a populist. but that is basicly his whole philosophy. and he is not denying it)

but during his time with the mad scientist concepts he ends up running around with a probe in his stomach to reach out different values to a tablet he has.

this gives him the ability to see what his body is currrently doing with the food you are giving it.

example would be the fact that it takes the body up to 2 hours to process protein so it can be used. so the whole concept of a post protein workout shake. should actually be a pre workout protein shake as the "window" they talk about might be opened right after hard training. but if protein synthesis takes 2 hours or more. you are gonna miss it post workout shake.

thank you for taking out this idea.

this is the type of things i love to work with.

there is so many rules to follow. and people don't have time to test them all.

for me. this is a hobby and a passion
you could be right. A bodybuilder told me this. He went to school to be a bodybuilding coach. But that doesn't mean that his course is 100 percent true as science theory and evidence is always changing Hmm very interesting man, it sounds like you have a mind similar to mine.
 
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pogzee;645892 said:
willl you compare tabata training to a 40 minute session in a gym ???

would you prefer a deepthroat blowjob from a hot girl lasting 5 mins.

or a 40 min intercourse sessions with a woman while she reads an exciting article in a gossip magazine?

sorry for the comparison.

but the thing is. that with any type of training there is different goals and different ways to reach each goal.

example 1. tyler wants to be a body builder. he works out 3 hours a day and his diet is solid. yet he aint gaining shit. why?
tyler is riding a bike for those 3 hours....

example 2. lisa wants to lose weight so she does 3 hours of power lifting every day. is she gonna lose weight? very little.

now none of those 2 examples are people working out wrong. they just don't synchronize their training with their goals.

so. here is my methods simplified of course (please im taking 22 years of different types of trasining and method and boiling them down in 1 post. so to go into details is not a possibility)

losing weight: most effective: peak pulse training. preferably interval (push the heartrate through the roof and as it is coming down push it back up again. to gain most from this.
diet: eat clean, nothing processed.
meat. veggies. nuts. lots of water. no sugar. flour. milk. salt.

gaining strenght: do basic exercises. squat deadlift. dips pull ups. bench do them 3 times a week full body with this system: 1x5 mon. 3x3 wednesday. 5x1 friday. intensity should be 105% now if you go and do this without warm up sets. plese by all means find a wall and repeatedly bash your head into it. these exercises makes a man. so they can break a man. a bad squat can have serious consequences.
diet: eat food. make sure you get enough protein. never starve. if you get fat. cut down your intake keep up the protein. your good.

bodybuilding: gaining muscles requires a food intake above status quoe. which is also the way... one gets fat. so one wants msucles but not the fat. this is done through a game of balancing between gaining as much muscle without the fat and losing as much fat without any muscle as possible.
now you are gonna hear a 1000 tips and bro tricks here. everything from "just get fat so you bild huge muscles. and then cut the fat and your arnold" "eat 6 times a day of lean protein, and carbs"

and ye i can go on.

what is important to know here. is that bodybuilding is infected. just like PE. there is money to be made so everyone wanna tell you how their protein is gonna make you look like the next villain in a hulk movie. so just like i need to read about the "funny secret that makes me increase my penis 3 inches in a few weeks" whenever i take a wank.

there is so much garbage information out there.

and i will now try and put my 2 cents on it aswell.

training: for the first 6 months. do full body of basic exercises. 3-4 times a week. on a 8-12 rep 4 set schedule. in the beginning we prioritize high frequnzy of training over more specific muscle work.
do squats deadlifts. bench. shoulderpress. dips pull downs. bendover rows. and some abs.

after half a year (differentiate from person to person but when you stop improving) it is most likely due to the muscles not getting worked enough. so we split it up in a 2 split. and we add a little extra exercises here to hit specific things (hit your weakpoints with these mostly) by beating up the muscles more they grow more. but also takes more time to grow (so the 2 split is giving it this time now)

3 split.

4 split.

at this point you should have enough knowledge yourself to setup a program.

things to add: DO NOT! and i repea! DO NOT lift with your ego. jesus christ i see so many people doing all these crazy things to lift heavy. i mean you want a big bicep or you wanna curl heavy shit? most people don't hit the muscle correct because if they did they had to take down a few pounds,

stop it! find a coach. (ialways just find a big old guy in the gym) let him go through your exercises. and do this every 3 months to be sure you haven't found something new to cheat with. this is one of my secrets to my training.

put the mind into the muscle.! another secret that im using this is old 90' bodybuilder stuff that people somehow forgot. when your a weightlifter. you have a weight at point a and want it to move to point b. and that is where your mind is at.

when your a bodybuilder you don't give 2 shits about moving the weight. you are interrested in building what people describe as "the pump" for me it feels like im pumping blood into the muscles, and this is what is gonna create fiber deconstructionand rebuild. so really feel the muscle tension as your working through a set. feel the burn feel the fatique in the muscle. you will find that sometimes you can lift heavier but not be able to get the same feeling. well this is where the muscle building process is highly reduced. do it right! this is hard to explain and please by all means do your own research. on it. another way of describing it. is that you should't try and lift the weight up and down. but rather control it up and down.
diet:
do not suffocate 1 of any of: protein. carbs. fat.
protein: builds muscle.
carbs. energy.
fat: oil to the engine. and building up essential stuff in the system.
make sure you eat a vitamin rich diet. the less stressed your body is. the more enrgy for building muscles.
now. some of the bad ones.

bad fat. fat has been the villain for years. but currently more and more studies shows it is actually not so bad anyway. i eat fat. i eat it from animals. aswell. last time i cut down i ate bacon every breakfast. no problems! however. processed fats cakes etc. please stay away from it. butter is one of these! i have actually used bacon greece for cooking. worked great. good taste for my eggs :)

carbs. has been the new evil the last couple of years. with the dawn of paleo and the ketogenic diet.

now for me there is 2 different parts. that have little to do with eachother. veggie carbs. you get them from veggies mostly. they will give you a constant burn for many hours. and these are essential for your body.

starchy carbs. these i use for bulking. but really they make me retain water and my sugar levels spikes which makes me lose concentration. gives me a 3 hour no food period (when you feel hungry 3 hours after eating? that's just starchy carbs talking. not really your body) these should be used with care. and is prettyu much not seen with people at high levels of bodybuilding.

protein: can you hear it? they are slowly but surely making protein the new bad. why? well the 2 others was bad the last time now it is proteins turn. its a cycle always has been. we believe that the food we are gettingis normal but it is mostly engineered. to fill out quotas of x amount of carbs vs protein etc.

and everytime the paradighm changes alot of "new" diets comes along which is old rules in a new package. my advise: test it and do what works best. and please. scientific evidence is most of the time biased aswell. let me give you an example.

im producing milk.
so i get 10 scientific tests set up.
1 to see if milk cures cancer (it doesn't)
1 to see if it is good for the eyes (turns out its bad for the eyes)
1 for the ears (bad here aswell)
1 for diabetes (turns out it might actually be a accelerato in causing diseases)
1 for bones and joint. and here it turns out. that there could be evidence that it is good for joints and bones.

so i now have a bunch of reports on my desk. which one of these do you think im gonna publish?

you see by being the censor of what to publish i can still bend the truth. even though i am telling the truths (or parts of it)

as you can see there is alot more to bodybuilding than the 2 others.

now is bodybuilding making weightlifting easier? yes a bit.
and the other way around.

but actually bodybuilding is alot less usefull for anything other than looking big. than strenght training is.


Cardio:

i did boxing for 4 years. and i was a soldier. i ran 10 km everyday. and to be frank with you.

it was worthless. so much time wasted. and the effects on weightloss was.. i don't know what to say. it might just be my type of muscle fibers. that is not designed for it. but please if cardi sucks for you. it might not be you who is doing something wrong.

i would advise you to do this. if cardio is a goal.

perfect your form. how many people actually work on the way they run? perfect the form? imagine if you are landing the wrong way on your foot for a whole marathon. i mean correct this!

instead of improving distance improve speed and weight. a weight west is key here. aim for a good 5 km time.

build in strenght work with heavy lunges squats deadlifts.

now what we have is a body where 5km weighted runs are possible. and perfect form. and muscles to take the impacts. know what happens if ths guy should run 20 km in a slower pace? basicly it is gonna feel like a walk in the park.

sorry i changed my training away from hours of cardio i didn't have time for. and there is no way in hell that im going back.
 
Aimingforthetop;645915 said:
would you prefer a deepthroat blowjob from a hot girl lasting 5 mins.

or a 40 min intercourse sessions with a woman while she reads an exciting article in a gossip magazine?

sorry for the comparison.

but the thing is. that with any type of training there is different goals and different ways to reach each goal.

example 1. tyler wants to be a body builder. he works out 3 hours a day and his diet is solid. yet he aint gaining shit. why?
tyler is riding a bike for those 3 hours....

example 2. lisa wants to lose weight so she does 3 hours of power lifting every day. is she gonna lose weight? very little.

now none of those 2 examples are people working out wrong. they just don't synchronize their training with their goals.

so. here is my methods simplified of course (please im taking 22 years of different types of trasining and method and boiling them down in 1 post. so to go into details is not a possibility)

losing weight: most effective: peak pulse training. preferably interval (push the heartrate through the roof and as it is coming down push it back up again. to gain most from this.
diet: eat clean, nothing processed.
meat. veggies. nuts. lots of water. no sugar. flour. milk. salt.

gaining strenght: do basic exercises. squat deadlift. dips pull ups. bench do them 3 times a week full body with this system: 1x5 mon. 3x3 wednesday. 5x1 friday. intensity should be 105% now if you go and do this without warm up sets. plese by all means find a wall and repeatedly bash your head into it. these exercises makes a man. so they can break a man. a bad squat can have serious consequences.
diet: eat food. make sure you get enough protein. never starve. if you get fat. cut down your intake keep up the protein. your good.

bodybuilding: gaining muscles requires a food intake above status quoe. which is also the way... one gets fat. so one wants msucles but not the fat. this is done through a game of balancing between gaining as much muscle without the fat and losing as much fat without any muscle as possible.
now you are gonna hear a 1000 tips and bro tricks here. everything from "just get fat so you bild huge muscles. and then cut the fat and your arnold" "eat 6 times a day of lean protein, and carbs"

and ye i can go on.

what is important to know here. is that bodybuilding is infected. just like PE. there is money to be made so everyone wanna tell you how their protein is gonna make you look like the next villain in a hulk movie. so just like i need to read about the "funny secret that makes me increase my penis 3 inches in a few weeks" whenever i take a wank.

there is so much garbage information out there.

and i will now try and put my 2 cents on it aswell.

training: for the first 6 months. do full body of basic exercises. 3-4 times a week. on a 8-12 rep 4 set schedule. in the beginning we prioritize high frequnzy of training over more specific muscle work.
do squats deadlifts. bench. shoulderpress. dips pull downs. bendover rows. and some abs.

after half a year (differentiate from person to person but when you stop improving) it is most likely due to the muscles not getting worked enough. so we split it up in a 2 split. and we add a little extra exercises here to hit specific things (hit your weakpoints with these mostly) by beating up the muscles more they grow more. but also takes more time to grow (so the 2 split is giving it this time now)

3 split.

4 split.

at this point you should have enough knowledge yourself to setup a program.

things to add: DO NOT! and i repea! DO NOT lift with your ego. jesus christ i see so many people doing all these crazy things to lift heavy. i mean you want a big bicep or you wanna curl heavy shit? most people don't hit the muscle correct because if they did they had to take down a few pounds,

stop it! find a coach. (ialways just find a big old guy in the gym) let him go through your exercises. and do this every 3 months to be sure you haven't found something new to cheat with. this is one of my secrets to my training.

put the mind into the muscle.! another secret that im using this is old 90' bodybuilder stuff that people somehow forgot. when your a weightlifter. you have a weight at point a and want it to move to point b. and that is where your mind is at.

when your a bodybuilder you don't give 2 shits about moving the weight. you are interrested in building what people describe as "the pump" for me it feels like im pumping blood into the muscles, and this is what is gonna create fiber deconstructionand rebuild. so really feel the muscle tension as your working through a set. feel the burn feel the fatique in the muscle. you will find that sometimes you can lift heavier but not be able to get the same feeling. well this is where the muscle building process is highly reduced. do it right! this is hard to explain and please by all means do your own research. on it. another way of describing it. is that you should't try and lift the weight up and down. but rather control it up and down.
diet:
do not suffocate 1 of any of: protein. carbs. fat.
protein: builds muscle.
carbs. energy.
fat: oil to the engine. and building up essential stuff in the system.
make sure you eat a vitamin rich diet. the less stressed your body is. the more enrgy for building muscles.
now. some of the bad ones.

bad fat. fat has been the villain for years. but currently more and more studies shows it is actually not so bad anyway. i eat fat. i eat it from animals. aswell. last time i cut down i ate bacon every breakfast. no problems! however. processed fats cakes etc. please stay away from it. butter is one of these! i have actually used bacon greece for cooking. worked great. good taste for my eggs :)

carbs. has been the new evil the last couple of years. with the dawn of paleo and the ketogenic diet.

now for me there is 2 different parts. that have little to do with eachother. veggie carbs. you get them from veggies mostly. they will give you a constant burn for many hours. and these are essential for your body.

starchy carbs. these i use for bulking. but really they make me retain water and my sugar levels spikes which makes me lose concentration. gives me a 3 hour no food period (when you feel hungry 3 hours after eating? that's just starchy carbs talking. not really your body) these should be used with care. and is prettyu much not seen with people at high levels of bodybuilding.

protein: can you hear it? they are slowly but surely making protein the new bad. why? well the 2 others was bad the last time now it is proteins turn. its a cycle always has been. we believe that the food we are gettingis normal but it is mostly engineered. to fill out quotas of x amount of carbs vs protein etc.

and everytime the paradighm changes alot of "new" diets comes along which is old rules in a new package. my advise: test it and do what works best. and please. scientific evidence is most of the time biased aswell. let me give you an example.

im producing milk.
so i get 10 scientific tests set up.
1 to see if milk cures cancer (it doesn't)
1 to see if it is good for the eyes (turns out its bad for the eyes)
1 for the ears (bad here aswell)
1 for diabetes (turns out it might actually be a accelerato in causing diseases)
1 for bones and joint. and here it turns out. that there could be evidence that it is good for joints and bones.

so i now have a bunch of reports on my desk. which one of these do you think im gonna publish?

you see by being the censor of what to publish i can still bend the truth. even though i am telling the truths (or parts of it)

as you can see there is alot more to bodybuilding than the 2 others.

now is bodybuilding making weightlifting easier? yes a bit.
and the other way around.

but actually bodybuilding is alot less usefull for anything other than looking big. than strenght training is.


Cardio:

i did boxing for 4 years. and i was a soldier. i ran 10 km everyday. and to be frank with you.

it was worthless. so much time wasted. and the effects on weightloss was.. i don't know what to say. it might just be my type of muscle fibers. that is not designed for it. but please if cardi sucks for you. it might not be you who is doing something wrong.

i would advise you to do this. if cardio is a goal.

perfect your form. how many people actually work on the way they run? perfect the form? imagine if you are landing the wrong way on your foot for a whole marathon. i mean correct this!

instead of improving distance improve speed and weight. a weight west is key here. aim for a good 5 km time.

build in strenght work with heavy lunges squats deadlifts.

now what we have is a body where 5km weighted runs are possible. and perfect form. and muscles to take the impacts. know what happens if ths guy should run 20 km in a slower pace? basicly it is gonna feel like a walk in the park.

sorry i changed my training away from hours of cardio i didn't have time for. and there is no way in hell that im going back.

this was very very insightful.....thnaks for this one bro !!
i will read your post again lol
and you were a soldier ?? cool
 
Aimingforthetop;645915 said:
would you prefer a deepthroat blowjob from a hot girl lasting 5 mins.

or a 40 min intercourse sessions with a woman while she reads an exciting article in a gossip magazine?

sorry for the comparison.

but the thing is. that with any type of training there is different goals and different ways to reach each goal.

example 1. tyler wants to be a body builder. he works out 3 hours a day and his diet is solid. yet he aint gaining shit. why?
tyler is riding a bike for those 3 hours....

example 2. lisa wants to lose weight so she does 3 hours of power lifting every day. is she gonna lose weight? very little.

now none of those 2 examples are people working out wrong. they just don't synchronize their training with their goals.

so. here is my methods simplified of course (please im taking 22 years of different types of trasining and method and boiling them down in 1 post. so to go into details is not a possibility)

losing weight: most effective: peak pulse training. preferably interval (push the heartrate through the roof and as it is coming down push it back up again. to gain most from this.
diet: eat clean, nothing processed.
meat. veggies. nuts. lots of water. no sugar. flour. milk. salt.

gaining strenght: do basic exercises. squat deadlift. dips pull ups. bench do them 3 times a week full body with this system: 1x5 mon. 3x3 wednesday. 5x1 friday. intensity should be 105% now if you go and do this without warm up sets. plese by all means find a wall and repeatedly bash your head into it. these exercises makes a man. so they can break a man. a bad squat can have serious consequences.
diet: eat food. make sure you get enough protein. never starve. if you get fat. cut down your intake keep up the protein. your good.

bodybuilding: gaining muscles requires a food intake above status quoe. which is also the way... one gets fat. so one wants msucles but not the fat. this is done through a game of balancing between gaining as much muscle without the fat and losing as much fat without any muscle as possible.
now you are gonna hear a 1000 tips and bro tricks here. everything from "just get fat so you bild huge muscles. and then cut the fat and your arnold" "eat 6 times a day of lean protein, and carbs"

and ye i can go on.

what is important to know here. is that bodybuilding is infected. just like PE. there is money to be made so everyone wanna tell you how their protein is gonna make you look like the next villain in a hulk movie. so just like i need to read about the "funny secret that makes me increase my penis 3 inches in a few weeks" whenever i take a wank.

there is so much garbage information out there.

and i will now try and put my 2 cents on it aswell.

training: for the first 6 months. do full body of basic exercises. 3-4 times a week. on a 8-12 rep 4 set schedule. in the beginning we prioritize high frequnzy of training over more specific muscle work.
do squats deadlifts. bench. shoulderpress. dips pull downs. bendover rows. and some abs.

after half a year (differentiate from person to person but when you stop improving) it is most likely due to the muscles not getting worked enough. so we split it up in a 2 split. and we add a little extra exercises here to hit specific things (hit your weakpoints with these mostly) by beating up the muscles more they grow more. but also takes more time to grow (so the 2 split is giving it this time now)

3 split.

4 split.

at this point you should have enough knowledge yourself to setup a program.

things to add: DO NOT! and i repea! DO NOT lift with your ego. jesus christ i see so many people doing all these crazy things to lift heavy. i mean you want a big bicep or you wanna curl heavy shit? most people don't hit the muscle correct because if they did they had to take down a few pounds,

stop it! find a coach. (ialways just find a big old guy in the gym) let him go through your exercises. and do this every 3 months to be sure you haven't found something new to cheat with. this is one of my secrets to my training.

put the mind into the muscle.! another secret that im using this is old 90' bodybuilder stuff that people somehow forgot. when your a weightlifter. you have a weight at point a and want it to move to point b. and that is where your mind is at.

when your a bodybuilder you don't give 2 shits about moving the weight. you are interrested in building what people describe as "the pump" for me it feels like im pumping blood into the muscles, and this is what is gonna create fiber deconstructionand rebuild. so really feel the muscle tension as your working through a set. feel the burn feel the fatique in the muscle. you will find that sometimes you can lift heavier but not be able to get the same feeling. well this is where the muscle building process is highly reduced. do it right! this is hard to explain and please by all means do your own research. on it. another way of describing it. is that you should't try and lift the weight up and down. but rather control it up and down.
diet:
do not suffocate 1 of any of: protein. carbs. fat.
protein: builds muscle.
carbs. energy.
fat: oil to the engine. and building up essential stuff in the system.
make sure you eat a vitamin rich diet. the less stressed your body is. the more enrgy for building muscles.
now. some of the bad ones.

bad fat. fat has been the villain for years. but currently more and more studies shows it is actually not so bad anyway. i eat fat. i eat it from animals. aswell. last time i cut down i ate bacon every breakfast. no problems! however. processed fats cakes etc. please stay away from it. butter is one of these! i have actually used bacon greece for cooking. worked great. good taste for my eggs :)

carbs. has been the new evil the last couple of years. with the dawn of paleo and the ketogenic diet.

now for me there is 2 different parts. that have little to do with eachother. veggie carbs. you get them from veggies mostly. they will give you a constant burn for many hours. and these are essential for your body.

starchy carbs. these i use for bulking. but really they make me retain water and my sugar levels spikes which makes me lose concentration. gives me a 3 hour no food period (when you feel hungry 3 hours after eating? that's just starchy carbs talking. not really your body) these should be used with care. and is prettyu much not seen with people at high levels of bodybuilding.

protein: can you hear it? they are slowly but surely making protein the new bad. why? well the 2 others was bad the last time now it is proteins turn. its a cycle always has been. we believe that the food we are gettingis normal but it is mostly engineered. to fill out quotas of x amount of carbs vs protein etc.

and everytime the paradighm changes alot of "new" diets comes along which is old rules in a new package. my advise: test it and do what works best. and please. scientific evidence is most of the time biased aswell. let me give you an example.

im producing milk.
so i get 10 scientific tests set up.
1 to see if milk cures cancer (it doesn't)
1 to see if it is good for the eyes (turns out its bad for the eyes)
1 for the ears (bad here aswell)
1 for diabetes (turns out it might actually be a accelerato in causing diseases)
1 for bones and joint. and here it turns out. that there could be evidence that it is good for joints and bones.

so i now have a bunch of reports on my desk. which one of these do you think im gonna publish?

you see by being the censor of what to publish i can still bend the truth. even though i am telling the truths (or parts of it)

as you can see there is alot more to bodybuilding than the 2 others.

now is bodybuilding making weightlifting easier? yes a bit.
and the other way around.

but actually bodybuilding is alot less usefull for anything other than looking big. than strenght training is.


Cardio:

i did boxing for 4 years. and i was a soldier. i ran 10 km everyday. and to be frank with you.

it was worthless. so much time wasted. and the effects on weightloss was.. i don't know what to say. it might just be my type of muscle fibers. that is not designed for it. but please if cardi sucks for you. it might not be you who is doing something wrong.

i would advise you to do this. if cardio is a goal.

perfect your form. how many people actually work on the way they run? perfect the form? imagine if you are landing the wrong way on your foot for a whole marathon. i mean correct this!

instead of improving distance improve speed and weight. a weight west is key here. aim for a good 5 km time.

build in strenght work with heavy lunges squats deadlifts.

now what we have is a body where 5km weighted runs are possible. and perfect form. and muscles to take the impacts. know what happens if ths guy should run 20 km in a slower pace? basicly it is gonna feel like a walk in the park.

sorry i changed my training away from hours of cardio i didn't have time for. and there is no way in hell that im going back.

Whole Milk is bad because of sugar and contains a significant amount of saturated fat and cholesterol.Also they give cows penicillin, which I belive goes in the milk. So if you are allergic to penicillin you shouldn't drink it. So if someone is getting hives,rashes, or allergic sypmtoms and are allergic to penicillin, then try drinking no milk. Penicillin in Cows' Milk.
Reducing Milk Losses Following Penicillin Use In Lactating Dairy Cows

The chinese drink soy milk in a bowl they make it from soybeans. I also believe here in north america they add sugar to the soybean products.

Soy milk - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Do people in Asia drink soy milk? - health nutrition | Ask MetaFilter


warning about a possible estrogen affect for those worried about it. "Phytosterols in soy milk mimics the function of human estrogen. Studies have shown that men who regularly eat soy products have significantly lower prostate cancer risks than men who do not." Soy Milk vs. Regular Milk: Which Is Healthier? / Nutrition / Healthy Eating

I believe a lot if not all traditional Chinese foods and natural food remedy's are great. I love there way of using foods and herbs to increase the immune system , fix and maintain problems. Along with lifestyle and exercise as well. For example I read a book were it said about using chinese medicine to strengthen the immune system before doing chemo treatments for cancer. As it is well known that chemo brings the immune system down and that's how a lot of people die. So its good to mix chinese medicine with western treatment to improve surviving results.
I believe this would be the best way to fight cancer. But Im not sure as I never tried it but I read the book and have studied some about chinese herbs and food and it makes since. Here's the link to those who are interested in herbal medicine treatment. http://www.santabarbaraherbclinic.com/files/pharmacy/index.html

Here's something that is interesting as well "The Santa Barbara Herb Clinic maintains is own fully stocked pharmacy of Chinese loose herbs, patents and other health items. We have a highly trained staff who make up the prescription formulas created by Dr. Henry Han for each individual and their current health issues. These then are brewed up as a tea since they are most effective in this form." So from reading this it is best to take or mix herbs with tea fr PE. This would make sense as well to me. As when I drink green tea and mix it with ground ginger root ,black pepper blend,and honey. I notice a decent flaccid pump drinking tea like this. If I had [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]penis enlargement pills[/words] I would drink it with tea. To me this sounds like a better and more effective way for herbal penis enlargment.
 
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acromegaly;646076 said:
Breast milk will give u the max gains bro ;)

without jokes breast milk probably be good if the woman eats and follows a healthy life. Same as the doctors say to mothers "be careful of what you put in your body when breast feeding your baby." It's crazy to not think about what they put in the cows and think of whats in our milk because of it. Look above of what I posted about cancer treament too. I want everybody to see it and get some awareness out there. This might be the best way to treat cancer and how everything on the earth has uses. You become what you put in your body.
 
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GirthGains;646079 said:
without jokes breast milk probably be good if the woman eats and follows a healthy life. Same as the doctors say to mothers "be careful of what you put in your body when breast feeding your baby." It's crazy to not think about what they put in the cows and think of whats in our milk because of it. Look above of what I posted about cancer treament too. I want everybody to see it and get some awareness out there. This might be the best way to treat cancer and how everything on the earth as uses. You become what you put in your body.

Oh I used to sip from Jens leaky boobs:)
 
GirthGains;646071 said:
Whole Milk is bad because of sugar and contains a significant amount of saturated fat and cholesterol.Also they give cows penicillin, which I belive goes in the milk. So if you are allergic to penicillin you shouldn't drink it. So if someone is getting hives,rashes, or allergic sypmtoms and are allergic to penicillin, then try drinking no milk. Penicillin in Cows' Milk.
Reducing Milk Losses Following Penicillin Use In Lactating Dairy Cows

again as i stated in the beginning. try what works for you. :) i did milk for several years as it is part of my culture. "half a liter a day is good for you"
when i stopped my digestive system improved and my constant ear infections faded away.

i don'
t care about natural cholestorol. more and more evidence shows that there is more factors playing a part in a humans high cholestorol than the actual intake of it. and starchy carbs should be one of the sinners. slowing down the digestive system setting up a habitat for the body to not be able to digest it probably. again these are current studies i have read. they will probably talk about this in the mainstream in a couple of years.

there is natural sugar in everything so that is not a concern.

what is my biggest concern is the cleansing process of milk. pasteurising and "homogenisering" as it is said in danish. basicly what they dso is to kill the bacteria in the milk. but the body needs those bacterias to be able to digest the milk properly.

studies have shown that people who are allergic to milk. is most likely not allergic to unprocessed milk.

this includes myself. who experimented with raw milk aswell.



The chinese drink soy milk in a bowl they make it from soybeans. I also believe here in north america they add sugar to the soybean products.

Soy milk - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Do people in Asia drink soy milk? - health nutrition | Ask MetaFilter


warning about a possible estrogen affect for those worried about it. "Phytosterols in soy milk mimics the function of human estrogen. Studies have shown that men who regularly eat soy products have significantly lower prostate cancer risks than men who do not." Soy Milk vs. Regular Milk: Which Is Healthier? / Nutrition / Healthy Eating

i would never eat soy products. other than the few ml of soya for my sushi.

I believe a lot if not all traditional Chinese foods and natural food remedy's are great. I love there way of using foods and herbs to increase the immune system , fix and maintain problems. Along with lifestyle and exercise as well. For example I read a book were it said about using chinese medicine to strengthen the immune system before doing chemo treatments for cancer. As it is well known that chemo brings the immune system down and that's how a lot of people die. So its good to mix chinese medicine with western treatment to improve surviving results.
I believe this would be the best way to fight cancer. But Im not sure as I never tried it but I read the book and have studied some about chinese herbs and food and it makes since. Here's the link to those who are interested in herbal medicine treatment. [u

absolutely agree here. stir fry is one of the best ways to maintain the vitamins and nutrition in the food. and spices are basicly just medicine. so ye im down with old fashiond chinese cooking. but just as everywhere else. what you will meet most places. is canned foods. that has been processed for lifespan. and shortcuts with different additives to make tyhe food taste right the "easy" way rl]http://www.santabarbaraherbclinic.com/files/pharmacy/index.html[/url]

Here's something that is interesting as well "The Santa Barbara Herb Clinic maintains is own fully stocked pharmacy of Chinese loose herbs, patents and other health items. We have a highly trained staff who make up the prescription formulas created by Dr. Henry Han for each individual and their current health issues. These then are brewed up as a tea since they are most effective in this form." So from reading this it is best to take or mix herbs with tea fr PE. This would make sense as well to me. As when I drink green tea and mix it with ground ginger root ,black pepper blend,and honey. I notice a decent flaccid pump drinking tea like this. If I had [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]penis enlargement pills[/words] I would drink it with tea. To me this sounds like a better and more effective way for herbal penis enlargment.

maybe. i don't know. i guess you get more of the extract out of a plant by boiling it. makes sence.
 
Aimingforthetop;646156 said:
maybe. i don't know. i guess you get more of the extract out of a plant by boiling it. makes sence.

Could even try pouring a cup of tea and dropping [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]penis enlargement pills[/words] in the tea. I think that would work good
 
GirthGains;646079 said:
without jokes breast milk probably be good if the woman eats and follows a healthy life. Same as the doctors say to mothers "be careful of what you put in your body when breast feeding your baby." It's crazy to not think about what they put in the cows and think of whats in our milk because of it. Look above of what I posted about cancer treament too. I want everybody to see it and get some awareness out there. This might be the best way to treat cancer and how everything on the earth as uses. You become what you put in your body.
I had a buddy who thought breast milk would give him a boost like steroids lol I wish it worked like that
 
Question on belly fat. I can see my abdominal muscles through my skin on my belly but my belly is still huge. How is this possible? Doesn't fat go on top of the muscles? What else could be causing this? Malnutrition?
 
doublelongdaddy;646202 said:
Question on belly fat. I can see my abdominal muscles through my skin on my belly but my belly is still huge. How is this possible? Doesn't fat go on top of the muscles? What else could be causing this? Malnutrition?

This may help you DLD. I posted some quotes from this website. not fat but stomach sticks out - Bodybuilding.com Forums

"You have excess visceral fat, its fat under the skin and between the organs. Only way your going to lose that is diet and cardio. Fat around your organs and directly under your muscles."

"There is a medical condition that also makes your stomache stick up, if you have firm abs and it still sticks out you should seek medical attention. My cousin had this and its often caused by not being able to digest certain foods properly. I think we call it "gas stomache" in sweden, im not sure tho. Its treatable and nothing dangerous."

"Yeast can do this too .. like 75% of people have a yeast overgrowth ( candida ) and dont know it .."

"If it feels like muscle on your large belly it could be swolen intestines or similar so go to the doctor and get it check out, otherwise try no alcohol, and exercise."

quotes from this link Abdominal fat and what to do about it - Harvard Health

"So what can we do about tubby tummies? A lot, it turns out. The starting point for bringing weight under control, in general, and combating abdominal fat, in particular, is regular moderate-intensity physical activity — at least 30 minutes per day (and perhaps up to 60 minutes per day) to control weight. Strength training (exercising with weights) may also help fight abdominal fat. Spot exercising, such as doing sit-ups, can tighten abdominal muscles, but it won’t get at visceral fat."

"Diet is also important. Pay attention to portion size, and emphasize complex carbohydrates (fruits, vegetables, and whole grains) and lean protein over simple carbohydrates such as white bread, refined-grain pasta, and sugary drinks. Replacing saturated fats and trans fats with polyunsaturated fats can also help"
 
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GirthGains;646227 said:
This may help you DLD. I posted some quotes from this website. not fat but stomach sticks out - Bodybuilding.com Forums

"You have excess visceral fat, its fat under the skin and between the organs. Only way your going to lose that is diet and cardio. Fat around your organs and directly under your muscles."

"There is a medical condition that also makes your stomache stick up, if you have firm abs and it still sticks out you should seek medical attention. My cousin had this and its often caused by not being able to digest certain foods properly. I think we call it "gas stomache" in sweden, im not sure tho. Its treatable and nothing dangerous."

"Yeast can do this too .. like 75% of people have a yeast overgrowth ( candida ) and dont know it .."

"If it feels like muscle on your large belly it could be swolen intestines or similar so go to the doctor and get it check out, otherwise try no alcohol, and exercise."

quotes from this link Abdominal fat and what to do about it - Harvard Health

"So what can we do about tubby tummies? A lot, it turns out. The starting point for bringing weight under control, in general, and combating abdominal fat, in particular, is regular moderate-intensity physical activity — at least 30 minutes per day (and perhaps up to 60 minutes per day) to control weight. Strength training (exercising with weights) may also help fight abdominal fat. Spot exercising, such as doing sit-ups, can tighten abdominal muscles, but it won’t get at visceral fat."

"Diet is also important. Pay attention to portion size, and emphasize complex carbohydrates (fruits, vegetables, and whole grains) and lean protein over simple carbohydrates such as white bread, refined-grain pasta, and sugary drinks. Replacing saturated fats and trans fats with polyunsaturated fats can also help"


Thank you so much! I have always wondered this because I never have been able to pinch fat on my stomach, it is always hard and the abdominals are visible. I never knew fat could be bellow the muscles so this is good news to me because now I know.

I have already trimmed down my diet significantly. The biggest change is now I am eating 3 meals a day, before I was eating once a day at night and it was usually something high in carbs, sugar, fat and salt. Now, with three meals I am eating sausage, egg and cheese sandwich on wheat english muffin with a coffee that I switched from cream to milk and have eliminated the sugar I used to put in. Lunch is usually a portion bar and a vegetable drink. Dinner is usually hamburger. I know I need to get more vegetables in and I will stock up on this when I hit the grocery store. I know that the diet I am on now is not great but at least it is a step in the right direction. Exercise I still have not started but I hope to motivate myself in the next couple days. There are so many changes I need to make that I want to do them one at a time. Hopefully, once I reach my ideal weight, I can stick with the diet and exercise that will keep me at that weight (170). I hope to be able to see some improvements before I shoot the new videos for [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] in about 2 months. I think it is realistic to drop 20 pounds a month under the right conditions. I will heavily be relying on you fitness guru's to help me on my way. Any advice is great advice!
 
your doing the right thing mate. as i stated. don't change things you can't see yourself keep changed in 10 years. and this seems like a good start. more healthy choices. and regular intake.

thats a starting point. then you can do the tweaking 1 step at the time. and eventually (and i fucking know that is where you are gonna end) you can start experimenting with diets.

just like you do with penis enlargement :)
 
doublelongdaddy;646230 said:
Thank you so much! I have always wondered this because I never have been able to pinch fat on my stomach, it is always hard and the abdominals are visible. I never knew fat could be bellow the muscles so this is good news to me because now I know.

I have already trimmed down my diet significantly. The biggest change is now I am eating 3 meals a day, before I was eating once a day at night and it was usually something high in carbs, sugar, fat and salt. Now, with three meals I am eating sausage, egg and cheese sandwich on wheat english muffin with a coffee that I switched from cream to milk and have eliminated the sugar I used to put in. Lunch is usually a portion bar and a vegetable drink. Dinner is usually hamburger. I know I need to get more vegetables in and I will stock up on this when I hit the grocery store. I know that the diet I am on now is not great but at least it is a step in the right direction. Exercise I still have not started but I hope to motivate myself in the next couple days. There are so many changes I need to make that I want to do them one at a time. Hopefully, once I reach my ideal weight, I can stick with the diet and exercise that will keep me at that weight (170). I hope to be able to see some improvements before I shoot the new videos for [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] in about 2 months. I think it is realistic to drop 20 pounds a month under the right conditions. I will heavily be relying on you fitness guru's to help me on my way. Any advice is great advice!

Your diet is not even bad just cut the cheese. You don't have to limit your meals that much either you can eat throughout the day as long as it's healthy snacks (few almonds or an apple etc). I wouldn't worry about what the scale says you might gain a few pounds if you start lifting
 
When I created this thread, I didn't know I will get this much advise. I'm shocked with all the info I've read so far. I changed my diet again. I want to list the things I'm eating and I need you guys to tell me if they are good food. Brown rice, beans, egg, oatmeal, water melon, carrot, Apple, peanuts, avocado, vegetables, garlic, ginger and mackerel.
 
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