Newbie getting in on the action here. I wanted to get an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] / stretcher but which one is the best? I see [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] is promoting the fastsize and I see moregains uses static stretcher and there are several others. What should I get?
What's the best extender
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Autoextender sucks for the most part: I have stuff from them and not good. VERY POOR QUALITY. They also sell stuff before it's ready causing them to have many "upgrades" and "minor changes" that you're always waiting for.
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Thanks for the replys. I guess I could have mentioned my routine. Before I found [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] I started pumping and jelqing thinking that was the safest but didn't get to much results yet. I started that in august. I was also doing stretches so I have been doing close to the dld [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] for 2 mo now. I made captns wench for hanging last week but that is pinching the hell out of my skin. Tried to modify but no luck yet. I'll save that for another thread. I have been doing clamping for about 2 weeks now. I did hang last night with 7.5 lb for 3x10 min. I need an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] to do straight out stretches for longer periods and wanted to add that to the hanging.
Moregains, how does the vacuum holder do for long periods on the SS? Do you have any recommendations on hanging? Probably the BIB?
Moregains, how does the vacuum holder do for long periods on the SS? Do you have any recommendations on hanging? Probably the BIB?
If i were you i would forget about hanging, clamping, [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words], etc until you have exhausted all gains from the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words]... rushing into these things will just end up causing you injuries, and that is no good at all.
I appreciate your guys concerns for injury. That is the last thing I want. I have jelqued a few times over the years just not consist to see gains but now I am making time. I guess how do you know when you are conditioned for those workouts. I read that manual stretching is more force and there are injurys there to. At first I got the petechia from pumping and I dont get that anymore and same for clamping. I have seen girth gains of about .25 but trying to get length at the same time. I do girth one day then length the next so I am giving time to heal. Hanging seems to be fine just need a device that is comfortable.
The heavy duty SS takes some tries to get right and like any vacuum I've tried they require patience and developing a technique for quick application. The longest I've worn it is 6 hours in a row. I was purposely not taking in much liquid so I didn't have to go but that's what causes me to take it off.Cunilinguist;354568 said:
The hard core is my preference in hangers but I've heard plenty of guys recommend the other bib models.
I will say that you should exhaust any manuals first. If you dive into equipment early you might look back and regret not wringing out the manual gains first. Nothing is magic of course and everything takes dedication and time.
Thanks moregains. I have been reading a lot of your post, your got a lot of knowledge man. As for the bib have you tried the others? Would you recommend that one over the others? Also, What about the vac hangers? I know you said autoexender sucks but is that for there hanger too? I saw a post by RED saying they were much safer and better. So I will do manuals till christamas then these will be some presents for myself if I stay with it.
I've tried a bunch of different hangers but most I made myself. The Bib was less than a hundred bucks and is really sturdy. I've had mine for 3 years now. The highest I've hung with it is 30 pounds.
My opinion of vacuum hangers is that they are too tricky to be reliable for gains. I tried like hell to use the mynewsize max vac, the autoextender vac hanger and another one I can't remember the name of. I could never get past 6 weeks without something going catastrophically wrong. I would get a surprise blister. I would take the precautions faithfully but when you're hanging 3 hours a day you're bound to increase your odds of something going wrong. I would then have to sit it out for 3 to 6 weeks because there's no way in the world I'm going to encourage a blister scar. Chicks would think you've got a disease. After recovery I always started back up with the hard core (they have a few models at www.bibhanger.com). Eventually I got the hang of it and have never hung vacuum again. I can't stand recoveries! Plus no sex without having to invent a story as to why your dick looks like it got into a fight or picked up a disease.
Now for lighter weight such as post-hanging extension I highly recommend it. When you're done with the heavy stuff it's great to keep it pulled out. I tried a couple of variations but settled on the HD SS. They have a few models too and I've tried them but for post hanging I always put on the HD SS for at least an hour. They are at www.staticstretcher.com. It is without a doubt the most comfortable of these type units. The autoextender looks garage made and feels it and lasts like it. The HD SS is full of custom components and you can tell it's just a better product. Plus it's a little cheaper than autoextender. I've had mine for 2 years now and I've had no troubles with it.
I have purchased just about everything out there because I consider my unit to be worth it. BTW, I did manuals for several months in the very beginning and still consider the jelq to be the original and best form of Penis Enlargement. I just don't want any more girth (my girlfriend is choking as it is now). I also don't like pulling on it for hours at a time.
My opinion of vacuum hangers is that they are too tricky to be reliable for gains. I tried like hell to use the mynewsize max vac, the autoextender vac hanger and another one I can't remember the name of. I could never get past 6 weeks without something going catastrophically wrong. I would get a surprise blister. I would take the precautions faithfully but when you're hanging 3 hours a day you're bound to increase your odds of something going wrong. I would then have to sit it out for 3 to 6 weeks because there's no way in the world I'm going to encourage a blister scar. Chicks would think you've got a disease. After recovery I always started back up with the hard core (they have a few models at www.bibhanger.com). Eventually I got the hang of it and have never hung vacuum again. I can't stand recoveries! Plus no sex without having to invent a story as to why your dick looks like it got into a fight or picked up a disease.
Now for lighter weight such as post-hanging extension I highly recommend it. When you're done with the heavy stuff it's great to keep it pulled out. I tried a couple of variations but settled on the HD SS. They have a few models too and I've tried them but for post hanging I always put on the HD SS for at least an hour. They are at www.staticstretcher.com. It is without a doubt the most comfortable of these type units. The autoextender looks garage made and feels it and lasts like it. The HD SS is full of custom components and you can tell it's just a better product. Plus it's a little cheaper than autoextender. I've had mine for 2 years now and I've had no troubles with it.
I have purchased just about everything out there because I consider my unit to be worth it. BTW, I did manuals for several months in the very beginning and still consider the jelq to be the original and best form of Penis Enlargement. I just don't want any more girth (my girlfriend is choking as it is now). I also don't like pulling on it for hours at a time.
Makes sense as for the hanging goes with vac. I have looked at those sites and are planning for the end of the year. I will probably start with the bib starter though to work in to it. I just cant get captns wench to feel good and I will take the advice to stay with manuals a little longer. I wish I had 3 hrs to hang a day. Im sure that creates results. I only get a little of time in the shower before work and bathroom breaks. I wanted to use the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] on the way to work. That gives me an hour if I can just set up and go.
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more gains been following your routine for about 2 weeks now, i usually do one or 2 sets of the bib hardcore (previously had a regular bib but would slip) and following by an hour of the HD static stretcher at 6 lbs, it feels to me to work far better then just hanging alone, as ive noticed a 1/8 inch gain in 2 weeks. taking me a bit to get conditioned for the hardcore currently doing 14 lbs SOL for ten minutes and switching to SOR half way through is this a reasonable way to do it. also since using your hardcore + hd ss what have been your gains and in what time period was this? thanks, u seem to be the hd ss guru
I don't think I'd always switch halfway through only because I like to get that solid fatigue feeling that comes from 20 minutes of one angle. But if you're feeling like you're making progress keep it up!
I have gained over an inch now with the combo. Also if you're still getting conditioned what are you doing hanging 14 lbs? The trouble with hanging is that if you aren't ready for it you might be able to go as much as 2 or 3 months, but then as soon as you really get going you develop skin troubles and have to back off. Don't rush it. I always look at the first couple of months as getting prepared for the really heavy work (and big progress work) ahead.
Don't find yourself at 20 lbs just because you're adding 2 lbs per week. Let a given weight do some work. Wait until a day or two of nothing from it. Then go up. Also watch out for adding sets randomly because they can contribute to skin trouble.
I have gained over an inch now with the combo. Also if you're still getting conditioned what are you doing hanging 14 lbs? The trouble with hanging is that if you aren't ready for it you might be able to go as much as 2 or 3 months, but then as soon as you really get going you develop skin troubles and have to back off. Don't rush it. I always look at the first couple of months as getting prepared for the really heavy work (and big progress work) ahead.
Don't find yourself at 20 lbs just because you're adding 2 lbs per week. Let a given weight do some work. Wait until a day or two of nothing from it. Then go up. Also watch out for adding sets randomly because they can contribute to skin trouble.
SizeGenetics has a long history of being a very disreputable company. They were the first to lie about "clinically proven". They were the first to lie about being an "approved CE medical device". They were the first with a bogus patent on Penis Enlargement. They were the first to create doctors out of thin air who "have been studying penis enlargement for years".
The initial product was a noose device which is very dangerous. Not to mention cheap as hell. Using surgical tubing to grab skin is ridiculous. Now they've widened it and call it the "Unique comfort mechanism". It still hurts like hell.
They were also the first to introduce the "money-back guarantee" that they NEVER made good on for anyone. They also charged more than anyone ever did for that total piece of shit.
The initial product was a noose device which is very dangerous. Not to mention cheap as hell. Using surgical tubing to grab skin is ridiculous. Now they've widened it and call it the "Unique comfort mechanism". It still hurts like hell.
They were also the first to introduce the "money-back guarantee" that they NEVER made good on for anyone. They also charged more than anyone ever did for that total piece of shit.
MoreGains123;354902 said:
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If you do find any evidence, please post it on here to prove what you said is right.
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As an aside, you can buy TV shows. CNN, Fox, MSNBC and many other journalism based programs sell time right inside their documentaries and news programming. My company was approached by CNBC to buy a segment in one of their technology news segments. Only $40K and they would present us as though we were today's newsmakers. What a sham.
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MoreGains123;354972 said:
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, I didn't mean it to be, just questioning; that's the way you keep yourself exempt from problematic issues.Like you stated earlier I had only posted twice. Yes this is true, but I have been following the Penis Enlargement scene for a good 7/8months. I only came across mattersofsize a few months ago, I mainly read up on the mensnetworks one. Both are good sources of information, although I'd say mattersofsize is more active & updates more frequently.
However, the main issue we're trying to address is what works, so seeing as your an experienced Penis Enlargement'ER what do you feel works best, personally?
I think getting the jelq mastered is job one. There is probably nothing moe reliable and effective because it can be varied for both length and girth depending upon the squeeze, the duration and the force.
The trouble I had with it was I eventually bored of doing it. So I tried every device I saw that looked reasonable. Vacuums, clamps, [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words], leg straps, etc. name something and it's probably around my house somewhere.
To make a very long story short: I settled on moderate hanging followed by moderate [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] work. I think either could work separately as I have witnessed this to be true. However in an effort to reduce the hours of Penis Enlargement I experimented with a combination and have been having success. When done correctly I think hanging is the ultimate length technique. I think jelqing is the safest girth technique: but with the caveat of taking a while to achieve good results.
To address the title of this thread: I think that if you can wear it long enough, they all work. So find something comfortable.
The trouble I had with it was I eventually bored of doing it. So I tried every device I saw that looked reasonable. Vacuums, clamps, [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words], leg straps, etc. name something and it's probably around my house somewhere.
To make a very long story short: I settled on moderate hanging followed by moderate [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] work. I think either could work separately as I have witnessed this to be true. However in an effort to reduce the hours of Penis Enlargement I experimented with a combination and have been having success. When done correctly I think hanging is the ultimate length technique. I think jelqing is the safest girth technique: but with the caveat of taking a while to achieve good results.
To address the title of this thread: I think that if you can wear it long enough, they all work. So find something comfortable.
hey moregains, just a question about the wrap u use for your bib hardcore hanging. ive decided to do full set of SOL then a full set of SOR as u recommended. do u use just the theraband, or sum cloth underlay then theraband. thanks man. do u think there'd be anybenefit from manual stretches with the hd ss dome as the grip instead of your hand after the set of the hd ss?
Do yourself a favor and don't jump in too hard and fast. If it starts out as a race to gains you'll end up sitting it out due to injury. My experience is that the first couple of months into a routine is all preparation for the third and fourth month when the gains really start. So take it easy.Cunilinguist;355025 said:
I use just the theraband. A couple of years back I used cloth underneath but was able to associate that with some skin issues so I dropped it.beldin1;355043 said:
I think using the HD head dome for manuals can be a good idea but you have to be very careful. With that setup you can easily pull much harder than the skin on your glans can handle.
I use a piece 15 inches long by 1.5 inches wide.
I have hung with a fulcrum but not with any luck. It provides a type of fatigue but I was never sure it was doing anything other than bruising internal tissue. It makes sense that it would work and that it would cause a targeting of the force but I never went very far with it.
The max I've hung with the hard core was about 30 lbs. This took three months of about 5 hours a day. I'd say this weight would normally take 6 months to achieve using 2 hours a day.
I have hung with a fulcrum but not with any luck. It provides a type of fatigue but I was never sure it was doing anything other than bruising internal tissue. It makes sense that it would work and that it would cause a targeting of the force but I never went very far with it.
The max I've hung with the hard core was about 30 lbs. This took three months of about 5 hours a day. I'd say this weight would normally take 6 months to achieve using 2 hours a day.