STATIC STRETCHER (and OTHER ADS's) ANGLES: PROS AND CONS

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I, for whatever reason, cannot get straight answers on these questions from the people at Static Stretcher. Anyone who knows anything about this, please respond.

1. If I stretch SO or between SD+SO, will I MAX OUT BOTH my Suspensatory Lig ERECT LENGTH gain potential AND my ERECT LENGTH Tunica Gains potential?

2. If I stretch JUST SD, will I make measureable BONE PRESSED RULER ERECT GAINS JUST with lig stretches?

3. If I do #2, how do I then increase my gains further once the ligs are stretched? SO/SU? Is it better to stretch both the ligs AND tunica at once?

4. When you stretch SD, when you gain your erection cannot go upwards anymore, correct? If I want an erection that goes upwards, I should be stretching between SD and SO or SO, correct (SU doesn't do it for me)?

Thanks.
 
I don't know that anyone can give you answers that you can take to the bank. These are questions that even some vets ask about. With that caveat, I'll attempt to answer them:

stevie7inch;349574 said:
1. If I stretch SO or between SD+SO, will I MAX OUT BOTH my Suspensatory Lig ERECT LENGTH gain potential AND my ERECT LENGTH Tunica Gains potential?
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You could theoretically but I wouldn't worry about maxing out this early in the game. Almost every [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] uses the position between SO and SD and we know these work with enough hours.

stevie7inch;349574 said:
2. If I stretch JUST SD, will I make measureable BONE PRESSED RULER ERECT GAINS JUST with lig stretches?
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You can because the ligs not only will allow the penis to move downward but will also allow it to move outward simply because they've been elongated.

stevie7inch;349574 said:
3. If I do #2, how do I then increase my gains further once the ligs are stretched? SO/SU? Is it better to stretch both the ligs AND tunica at once?
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If you do #2 you should wipe your ass. JK, most of us think after lig gains you then target tunicae. (Again remember [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] work in this area of both ligs and tunicae.) You can stretch both at once although it does appear to be slower gaining. This is because all the tissues are engaged at once. Personally I prefer this however at a lower force for a long period of time because I get tremendous tunicae fatigue. But I guess this would depend on how much time you have for each sessoin.

stevie7inch;349574 said:
4. When you stretch SD, when you gain your erection cannot go upwards anymore, correct? If I want an erection that goes upwards, I should be stretching between SD and SO or SO, correct (SU doesn't do it for me)?
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If your suspensory lig is stretched out it will allow the erect penis to point SO or SD depending upon how stretched out the ligs are.
 
At the moment I can't remember what they suggest, I thought it was SO. Anyway, somewhere between SO and SD is very comfortable with higher tension IMO.
 
Moregains,

You're the best. You have gained an inch and a half in erect length using the SS and Bib. Awesome.

1. In your opinion, what are the PROS and CONS of stretching at each angle (SD, bwt SD/SO, SO, SU)?

2. If I measure my erect length (ruler bone pressed) and it's, say, 7", and then I JUST STRETCH SD (all ligs; quickest "gains), and then my Bone Pressed Erect Length Measurement increases, why is it that THIS position isn't encouraged the most, since it gives us a bigger penis the fastest, or, at least, has more of the penis show out of the body (thereby being bigger)?
 
stevie7inch;349599 said:
1. In your opinion, what are the PROS and CONS of stretching at each angle (SD, bwt SD/SO, SO, SU)?
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I would say they are strictly based upon comfort. A long time ago I hung BTC but hated it because it hurt and I didn't like the position I had to sit in. I finally realized I was never going to reach my goals if this was what I had to do. When I read about the static stretcher I liked their idea of comfort being the primary goal in order to achieve the other goals. So I started some discussions with them and arrived at my modified IPR/Bib/SSHD technique. I know stretching downward is the fastest but it's not as if it's overnight. So if you can tolerate the lower angles: go for it, I couldn't.

stevie7inch;349599 said:
2. If I measure my erect length (ruler bone pressed) and it's, say, 7", and then I JUST STRETCH SD (all ligs; quickest "gains), and then my Bone Pressed Erect Length Measurement increases, why is it that THIS position isn't encouraged the most, since it gives us a bigger penis the fastest, or, at least, has more of the penis show out of the body (thereby being bigger)?
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Again it goes back to comfort: I can't use the Bib or the SS HD at SD for long periods of time due to the physical position. So I prefer to take on a position that suits me so I can watch TV and surf, etc. and forget about it.
 
I get the comfort part.

1. So ALL positions, over time, add BONE PRESSED ERECT LENGTH GAINS?
2. Do ALL positions, over time, stretch you out BONE PRESSED ERECT LENGTH GAIN-WISE via lig expansion AND tunica expansion?
3. You kind of answered this before, but again, not completely sure, so I'll be more specific: does stretching out ligaments solely doing SD:
a. Take away your ability to have an erection that springs up?
b. NOT max out your total ERECT LENGTH gain potential (meaning that you can then go to stretching Tunica and gain further)?
4. Is there a way to tell, whether by measuring your taint or something else, how much you can expect to gain IN ERECT LENGTH via SD (all ligs)?


Peace.
 
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Hey moregains,

You and Rick are the only people on the internet (as far as I know) who can answer these questions I've been asking, MANY questions. I can't help but feel like I am being a pest. Thank you for the umpteenth time for answering my questions!

I've looked over all of our interactions with each other. I'm serious about the device: I've been using it every day (mostly between SD and SO, sometimes SO, and once or twice SU).

Rick has told me to choose ONE angle and stick with it. He is confusing me, though, because at first he said he only did SU (wanted his erections to go past his belly button; apparently he and Bigger both agreed that having an erection that goes past your bb was "more impressive"). THEN he tells me I should do "between SD and SO: you get some immediate growth with ligs but your tunicae is stretched as well". THEN yesterday, he says that SO IS HIS FAVORITE (your exit point stays the same).

Of course, ONE PHONE CALL would end all of the confusion, but I get the impression he doesn't want talk to me. GREAT GUY, and he's an amazing inventor, and he has truly been there for me, but it is what it is regarding actually talking to the guy. :s

So I turn to YOU, moregains, for some final advice:

YOU tell ME what angle to choose and I will. Here's my criteria...

1. I want as little excess skin as is possible
2. I only want my exit point lowered if its worth it, "worth it" being in THIS context quick BONE PRESSED RULER MEASURED ERECT LENGTH gains. This means that if it means rearranging my inner junk through lowering my exit point to be able to, say in 6 months, get a full erection and press a ruler against my pubic bone and show a noticable increase in my erect length, so be it. Because if the RULER says its bigger, it is.
3. I want an angle that will, over time (years?):
*Completely exhaust my ligaments and stretch them to their furthest possible stretch (so as to do what Bigger talks about: "BTC suspensatory ligament stretching out before working the tunica")
*Completely exhaust my tunica potential (so that I max out ALL POSSIBLE Penis EnlargementRMANENT ERECT LENGTH GROWTH over a long period of time tunica-wise)

Now: if I'm not making any sense, let me know, but I'm going on what Bigger, Rick and you have said regarding anatomy, time, etc.

The only thing I am concerned about is having a much bigger erect penis than what I have now (at 7" BPenis EnlargementL and I want 9" BPenis EnlargementL). It would be NICE to have my erection go past my belly button, but from what I gather, SU JUST stretches tunica, correct? How do you max out your total length growth if you are JUST doing tunica and not ligs as well? Do ALL positions truly stretch out completely BOTH ligs and tunica, and the only reason to choose what position you want to stretch at is whether or not you want your exit point lowered?

What say you, moregains?

All the best,

Stevie
 
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I don't remember Rick saying he liked SU that might've been a mistake. He and I only ever talked about SO.

stevie7inch;352622 said:
1. I want as little excess skin as is possible
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Don't worry about this too much. SD and BTC are the main skin growers.

stevie7inch;352622 said:
2. I only want my exit point lowered if its worth it, "worth it" being in THIS context quick BONE PRESSED RULER MEASURED ERECT LENGTH gains. This means that if it means rearranging my inner junk through lowering my exit point to be able to, say in 6 months, get a full erection and press a ruler against my pubic bone and show a noticable increase in my erect length, so be it. Because if the RULER says its bigger, it is.
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This is a decision you have to make. I got some gains from SD and BTC, but looking back I wished I'd've just stuck with SO. Like Bigger, I prefer past the BB: it looks better.

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3. I want an angle that will, over time (years?):
*Completely exhaust my ligaments and stretch them to their furthest possible stretch (so as to do what Bigger talks about: "BTC suspensatory ligament stretching out before working the tunica")
*Completely exhaust my tunica potential (so that I max out ALL POSSIBLE Penis EnlargementRMANENT ERECT LENGTH GROWTH over a long period of time tunica-wise)
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Obviously the tunicae gets worked out when performing lig stretching too because it's being used to transfer the weight to the ligs. However since the ligs are easier to stretch you get faster results form them. I don't like changing my erection angle though and that's also a side effect of BTC and SD (lig stretching).

The lig stretching first is usually so you can get some immediate results (so to speak) which will inspire you to go for the tougher to get gains (tunicae). Howver there's no reason you can't do themn in the reverse order either. Also as Bigger and Rick have both pointed out they believe tunicae growth is fairly unlimited whereas lig stretching is limited. Personally, I'd go with what you want your ultimate goal to be and consider the side effects:

1. SO will take longer since it's 90% tunicae and perhaps 10% ligs.
2. Lig stretching is probably the opposite due to the relative ease with which ligs will stretch but it changes your erection angle and lowers your exit point.

I find SO to be most comfortable so that's what I stick with. I generally get 3/16" to 1/4" per month when training hard. (That's about 30 hours per week.) Rick convinced me a long time ago to be comfortable first and foremost.
 
moregains,

You're the best.

A follow up. Please answer the questions via their numbers. I'm going to be patient and stick with SO.

1. So then ALL angles produce BONE PRESSED ERECT LENGTH gains (the <3/16" to 1/4"> you speak of)? The sole difference between them is in whether or not I want my exit point lowered (I don't)?

2. What has been, since day one, your BONE PRESSED ERECT LENGTH gains? You told me before but I am having trouble finding it.

3. How many hours a week, at 6 pounds, should I wear it to get as close to guaranteing that I grow at a BPenis EnlargementL rate of 1/4" a month?

4. Will doing SO still give me flaccid gains (I feel like this in particular is a stupid question, but whatever...)?

5. Any advice on sleeping with the HD SS SO?

6. Can I get in the HOURS Penis EnlargementR WEEK number while missing one day a week? For example, I work late on Wednesdays and don't have the time to wear it unless I am sleeping. If I get 30 hours in a week, let's say, 6 DAY A WEEK instead of 7, is missing that one day bad?

THANK YOU!
 
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moregains,

ONE MORE QUESTION (please note this should be attached to the last post):

7. I'm at 6" girth and would like to get to 7". Do I need to jelq for this or will I get an ERECT inch in girth over time just using the HDSS?
 
The tunica is always stretched. SD the tunica is stretched to the ligs, where they take the load. SU, the tunica is stretched all the way through the inner penis past the ligs and where it attaches near the rectum.
 
1. I guess that's true: but I can only speak from experience (I haven't tried every angle for extended periods of time to state this as a fact).

2. Just over 1 1/2"

3. I'd guess-timate 4 or 5 hours per day at 6 pounds.

4. I think SO to SU is more likely to give you flaccid gains than lower angles (based on my experience).

5. I've done it many times, I just dial it down a bit. Also I don't move much when I sleep and I often sleep in a lazy boy type chair because of my back.

6. You can miss days but I'd strongly recommend getting at least 30 minutes in the morning and perhaps at night too. Six days a week is great: I don't think a day of rest will hurt you, but you might jelq.

7. Girth is a bear and adding an inch is a very lofty goal. You will gain some girth perhaps a 1/4" from the HDSS usage. I'd wait until you get your length and then switch to a jelq routine that you can focus on. I do not recommend doing both as you will likely make your skin sore and have to take a break. Keep in mind that most girls find 6 to be the oral max. Seven might also be too much for anal.
 
MoreGains123;353057 said:
1. I guess that's true: but I can only speak from experience (I haven't tried every angle for extended periods of time to state this as a fact).

2. Just over 1 1/2"

3. I'd guess-timate 4 or 5 hours per day at 6 pounds.

4. I think SO to SU is more likely to give you flaccid gains than lower angles (based on my experience).

5. I've done it many times, I just dial it down a bit. Also I don't move much when I sleep and I often sleep in a lazy boy type chair because of my back.

6. You can miss days but I'd strongly recommend getting at least 30 minutes in the morning and perhaps at night too. Six days a week is great: I don't think a day of rest will hurt you, but you might jelq.

7. Girth is a bear and adding an inch is a very lofty goal. You will gain some girth perhaps a 1/4" from the HDSS usage. I'd wait until you get your length and then switch to a jelq routine that you can focus on. I do not recommend doing both as you will likely make your skin sore and have to take a break. Keep in mind that most girls find 6 to be the oral max. Seven might also be too much for anal.
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THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!

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It's the HD SS (stretching SO) and the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] for me.

Right now, I am feeling "killed" discomfort-wise at about 1.5 hours with the HDSS. I am just going to sleep with it on and sleep on my back (I need to learn how to sleep on my back anyway so that my stomach muscles get strengthened).
 
Please respond to these Moregains123.I would really appreciate it.1a.I am about to start hanging and then jelquing,and then use the SS HD.My question here is,if I did SD for the hanging and SS HD,how much of an erection drop would occur,as opposed to doing these SO?b.And related,would I be able to improve the erection angle later on(after maxing out ligs)and doing the stretching at SO positions?2.How long would the time difference be,with regards to making same amount of gains,between the two positions of SD,and SO?What would be an approximate time?3a.Would the ligs be able to be maxed out by doing other positions other than the SD(which is best for ligs),or if the only SO and SU positions were to be utilized,and not the SD,would this mean you would be sacrificing those quick lig gains?b.Or would they eventually still be maxed out as well,just a longer time though?Please respond to these questions.I would be very grateful and happy,for your very wise and useful,experienced knowledge.Thank you.
 
I forgot to ask you something Moregains123.OK,now from your discussion with the static stretcher people,and BIB,you say they say that an erection up to the belly button is more impressive.1.So knowing that,does that mean that if I wanted solely an erection that went up past my belly button,not only would I have to wear the SS HD at SO,or SU, but if I wanted to do hanging(which I want)then for hanging I would have to follow with SO or SU ..am I right?2.Related to this though,did you not do SD hanging with additional SD stretching of the SS HD?How much was your erection angle affected by this?3.And finally,what do you suggest I do with regards to angle usage?I am still confused on what type to use...I mean,I want gains quick,but still would like to have that impressive upward erection,but if that way would take like way more time to achieve similar results then I might sacrifice some erection angle by doing SD for a while,kind of like you did.Any thoughts?Oh and is BIBs erection upward past his belly button..just curious?Anyways,sorry about all the questions.Thank you.
 
1a. It's impossible to know because everyone is different and the intensity and time will vary among different guys. Don't worry about how much: you'll see it slowly happening. Just stop if you don't like it. If you haven't cemented the lig stretch it will retract if you leave it alone.

1b. If you stretch the suspensory lig it will no longer wrap tightly upward around the pubic bone during erection: answer: no.

2. It took me double the time.

3a. The ligs will still be stretched during SO, just not optimally. They attach above the penis so downward stretching affects them the most. However SO stretching will also lengthen them (just not as quickly).

3b. I suppose the ligaments could be stretched way beyond the usefulness of gains. I understand the term "maxing the ligs" to mean maxing the quick gains available.

"they say that an erection up to the belly button is more impressive"

This is an opinion.

1. I never liked SU so I stick with SO. If you can find comfort using SU then do it. The basic idea is: if you stretch downward you will get a longer suspensory ligament which will cause your "exit point" to be lower. This in turn moves your erection away from your BB.

2. I did SD and BTC hanging early on but later decided I didn't want the lowered exit point. (I did gain though.) I never used the SS HD in SD because I find it much more comfortable in SO. It brings tunica fatigue like crazy for me in SO. My angle was changed from early hanging, but I stopped downward hanging.

3. I'm a fan of SOR and SOL for hanging, and SO for HD SS. Using SD and/or BTC is a good way to become a believer. I don't know anything about Bigger's erections.

In the future please add line spaces and word spaces: your text is difficult to read.
 
Thank you so much for the useful information. I have a couple follow up questions,I hope you don't mind.

1.When hanging,how will I know when the lig stretch has been cemented?

2.So the consensus is that anybody who does hanging SD will never be able to go for the BB erection?
3.I am just curious why you don't want the lowered exit point? Any particular reason?

4.Would it be weird if I did hanging SD,and then the SS HD in the SO or SU position...or should the position be the same for both the hanging,and the SS HD when doing a routine?

Thank you so much for your immense help.You are truly an amazing person.I really appreciate it alot.
 
penisbuilder;353251 said:
1. When hanging,how will I know when the lig stretch has been cemented?
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When you've reached your goal, simply start cutting back on time and intensity over a period of 4 to 8 weeks just to be sure your new length doesn't retract from your goal.
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2. So the consensus is that anybody who does hanging SD will never be able to go for the BB erection?
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You can certainly "go for the BB erection" when hanging SD, but just remember that the lower your exit point the farther away the glans will be from the BB so you would need more tunica stretching.
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3. I am just curious why you don't want the lowered exit point? Any particular reason?
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I prefer a "past the BB" erection because I think it makes it look even bigger.
penisbuilder;353251 said:
4. Would it be weird if I did hanging SD,and then the SS HD in the SO or SU position...or should the position be the same for both the hanging,and the SS HD when doing a routine?
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You don't have to make them the same but it would speed things up. Obviously when pulling from the glans the weight is transfered through the tunica and through the ligs so everything is getting stress. The angles cause emphasis on certain tissues. If you're going to hang SD I think you should also put the HD SS in the position between SO and SD. I've never liked putting the HD SS in pure SD because I find it more difficult to sit down. This also brings up another issue: sitting and walking around with the HD SS changes the effective angle (so keep that in mind when you select the position).
 
moregains,

What's up, bro!?

I am, so far, only able to stretch for 1.5 hours before the pain deep in me above my penis (stretching SO) is too much to bear.

1. Does this mean I am "maxing out" my workouts?
2. Anything I can do to prolong my time (numbing creams, for example)?
 
First I would never numb nerves.

I don't think you're maxing out, but I can't feel what you're feeling. Why don't you try reducing the tension when the pain sets in? If 1.5 hours is getting you some fatigue you should try riding it at a lower tension.
 
moregains,

I have come up with a solution for the pain I have been feeling: static-wrapping the top of the HDSS base!

I am into my second month using the HDSS at about 20 hours a week. Hair is growing up my shaft like crazy. I AM bigger; I FEEL it and I "just know", even though it is difficult for me to truly tell how much I have gained since 1. I have a fat pad and 2. I didn't really measure before. I have been stretching SO.

Questions:

1. Do you have any adult entertainment links (anyone?) that show someone who has a "low exit point" and is hung, whether or not they got that way because of Penis Enlargement? If so, may I see?

2. IF I were to stretch between SD and SO, which is the most comfortable for me:
a. Will my erection angle go downwards FOR SURE?
b. Won't the end of my cock when erect, IF my erection angle goes down, go closer to my knees, thereby giving me a more HUNG look when standing up? Look at this link: http://www.tube8.com/gay/monster-cock-masturbation/78032/ IS THIS a guy with a low exit point? I can't tell if he's a bone pressed 8" or 10"!
That's the "look" I'm going for; when My pants come off, THAT'S what I want the girls to see, because when I sit back I can already do a two-hander from the base up and have almost 2 inches on top showing.

Depending on the answers to those questions, I may switch my angle to between so and sd.

Arthur
 
Stevie!!

Be careful, good one!! Be sure the pain is just a burning feeling and not a sharp pain.

That is GREAT news about the hair growing up your shaft. It took me much longer to experience this, but that is a sure sign that you are stretching your skin.

That "heavy" feeling of volume gain is another sure sign of growth. There is more room for the blood to enter your expanding penis. That's when I first "knew" that I was gaining even though the tape measure didn't reveal it.

I have no idea about the exit point stuff. I'm just learning about that myself. I'll get my fuckin' software up so that I can post a pic of my own dick so you can use me as an example for comparison's sake.

Just be careful!

That poor woman he is fucking up the asshole--I assume it is him. He can knock out her vaginal wall with that whopper. Her poop can end up infecting her vagina. Yukkkk.

Goin' aka Horsehung aka LostinSpace

P.S. To all p.e.ers: Don't get carried away when you start to gain. Easy does it. Your dicks will keep growing, believe us. But DO give TIME, time.
 
It's hard to tell Stevie regarding the exit point. I think he's somewhere between 8" and 10"--probably closer to 10". Whether your erection angle drops or not, you should start to hang like the guy in the pic. I agree that the trade-off is probably the eleven o'clock woody. I found that my semi-erect "softies" started to hang like his after a while. As your ligs start to give, you will definitely get the effect you are looking for. An 8" dick hangs about half way to most knees. rofl

Horsehung

P.S. After a good edging session, mine hangs soft around 9" for a while.
 
stevie7inch;354188 said:
I have come up with a solution for the pain I have been feeling: static-wrapping the top of the HDSS base!
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Excellent. I use various pads myself just for the pubic bone. For behind the sack I just move it around from time to time.

stevie7inch;354188 said:
I am into my second month using the HDSS at about 20 hours a week. Hair is growing up my shaft like crazy. I AM bigger; I FEEL it and I "just know", even though it is difficult for me to truly tell how much I have gained since 1. I have a fat pad and 2. I didn't really measure before. I have been stretching SO.
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I know this feeling well. Stop and measure and mark the date. Take a photo of the position and angle you measured from. Later it's going to become very irritating to not be able to tell exactly how much. The first time I gained significantly I never measured at all. I figured I'd "just be able to tell". Well that was true, but then I wanted to know how much!

stevie7inch;354188 said:
Questions:
1. Do you have any adult entertainment links (anyone?) that show someone who has a "low exit point" and is hung, whether or not they got that way because of Penis Enlargement? If so, may I see?
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I don't watch adult entertainment.

stevie7inch;354188 said:
2. IF I were to stretch between SD and SO, which is the most comfortable for me:
a. Will my erection angle go downwards FOR SURE?
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When you stretch the suspensory lig it is quite possible that your angle will change but it's a slow process so don't worry about pointing at the floor. That would take years and you would see it coming a long way off.

stevie7inch;354188 said:
b. Won't the end of my cock when erect, IF my erection angle goes down, go closer to my knees, thereby giving me a more HUNG look when standing up? Look at this link: http://www.tube8.com/gay/monster-coc...rbation/78032/ IS THIS a guy with a low exit point? I can't tell if he's a bone pressed 8" or 10"!
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He's definitely big and has a very low exit point. That certainly brings it closer to his knees. Are you trying to be a flaccid model?

stevie7inch;354188 said:
That's the "look" I'm going for; when My pants come off, THAT'S what I want the girls to see, because when I sit back I can already do a two-hander from the base up and have almost 2 inches on top showing.
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When my pants come off I'm already getting hard or hard: which so I've been told is way hotter than any flaccid. Girls like to know you're excited being with them. It turns them on to see you raring to go.
 
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