Progress with SG

bty84;737315 said:
Good to know, thanks for the read.

maybe i'll just stick with the DMSO, that seems to do the blunt of the work anyways.

Today marks one month since starting the thread!!!

I'll see about doing measurements tonight.
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Don't forget those Bundles, they make a world of difference in both length and girth work.
 
DLD what would you say is more important when doing bundles? The "twisting force" from actually twisting your penis, or the stretching force from pulling?
 
Happy with progress. This morning measured 7.5 x 6.125.

I'm in the process of losing weight (I'm 100lbs overweight) that should help with getting rid of the fat pad.

Started with weighted hanging bundled2 sets of 3 minutes 11lbs. Still havent bit the bullet and bought dmso.
 
RR04;737375 said:
DLD what would you say is more important when doing bundles? The "twisting force" from actually twisting your penis, or the stretching force from pulling?
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Really both, you want to twist as much as you comfortably can and from there you want to stretch with intensity.
 
bty84;737396 said:
Happy with progress. This morning measured 7.5 x 6.125.

I'm in the process of losing weight (I'm 100lbs overweight) that should help with getting rid of the fat pad.

Started with weighted hanging bundled2 sets of 3 minutes 11lbs. Still havent bit the bullet and bought dmso.
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How much of a gain is this?
 
bty84;737415 said:
Half an inch in length (though I swear it was more) 5/8 growth girth
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Half inch is a huge gains! 5/8th in girth also good. Congratulations! Use this to fuel the fire and make even greater gains!
 
Keeping on!

I havent been able to figure out a good wrap to be able to hang from the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] consistently.

Right now i do 30 seconds of each: straight out, left, right, down, up, behind the cheeks.

Thinking of mixing in behind the cheeks between each of the others. REALLY feel the stretch behind the cheeks.

The wife continues to be impressed, so i'm gonna keep after it :)
 
bty84;737535 said:
Keeping on!

I havent been able to figure out a good wrap to be able to hang from the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] consistently.

Right now i do 30 seconds of each: straight out, left, right, down, up, behind the cheeks.

Thinking of mixing in behind the cheeks between each of the others. REALLY feel the stretch behind the cheeks.

The wife continues to be impressed, so i'm gonna keep after it :)
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I saw you said 5 sets of manuals, twice a day. Does that mean the entire routine, 30 seconds each stretch, 5 times at two different points in the day?? For instance it takes me roughly 10 mins to complete 1 full set of all 30 second directions with rotaries. So effectively 5 times put you at 50 minutes, twice a day on stretching for a total of one hour 40 minutes. Am I wrong here?
 
RR04;737567 said:
I saw you said 5 sets of manuals, twice a day. Does that mean the entire routine, 30 seconds each stretch, 5 times at two different points in the day?? For instance it takes me roughly 10 mins to complete 1 full set of all 30 second directions with rotaries. So effectively 5 times put you at 50 minutes, twice a day on stretching for a total of one hour 40 minutes. Am I wrong here?
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That's accurate. I see guys doing twice that amount. I don't get it everyday but 5 out of 7 days. Include the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] for an hour after each session it's 4 hours a day, not including [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] during the day at work.
 
bty84;737230 said:
researching ointments to improve tunica breakdown, i found this

The Sexually Healthy Man: Phase 3: The Infantry Attack/Topical Gel

thinking of vitaman E, DMSO and Potassium Iodide over night so i can get a great stretch first thing in the morning.

I saw a post where kingsnake tried a few chemicals, just makes sense to me.
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Yeah bro. I was just on thunders reading about DMSO application with certain concoctions people have experimented with. One guy recommended what you were going to try with the iodine and he was having positive results. I messaged a guy who was using magnesium chloride. Apparently scar tissue is basically calcium deposits and the iodine or magnesium helps break this down. Slather one of those two on the penis and then apply DMSO so the compound can go through the skin transdermally and break down the plaque and scar tissue that results from PE, making gains easier to reach.

By reading a lot of guy's methods and how they applied the DMSO concoctions, they reported that their penis were more malleable again and have continued to make gains from their routines. This is a real fucking game changer. Holy shit!

The reason this has peaked my interest is because I am experiencing some negative PI's right now. My base feels like some fibers around that area feel pretty irritated and my penis is kind of turtled and the erect girth has gotten kind of smaller. The urethra near the base is also irritated and it feels like their is a thick sheath of tissue kind of squishing down my girth. That is why I am interested in this.

I used to have a 5.2 mid girth but I think through some inconsistent PE I may have toughened things up which may be prohibiting my true girth. Gonna give this a go with a decondition break and will report back. Still will be on the forums pretty frequently throughout the week.

Awesome. I really hope some of the active members read this. If gains come to a stall, plaque and scar tissue may be the issue.

Theoretically, a guy can keep applying this stuff and can keep making gains indefinitely. Gonna get more info. Peace brothas.
 
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The iodide comment DLD made scared me a bit. Might just stick with DMSO for now. Seeing which one on Amazon I want to order.
 
I don't fully understand the properties of DMSO yet even though I worked with it in organic chemistry. But with simple knowledge, it helps deliver whatever is topically applied on top of the skin to the underlying tissues. We have talked about this in class and I do remember that lol.

There are two options to choose from. Either the iodine or magnesium chloride from what I was reading on thunders for plaque and scar removal. There may be more but I want to work with one of these. The guy with the link you provided makes it look easy. I am gonna give it a go. The other guy was using it on thunders and regained a 0.25 inch of girth from doing this.

Also, I don't think DMSO by itself will do anything to break down scar tissue. You need some sort of concoction of compounds/medicines that have a specific purpose for what you want to do to the underlying tissues. DMSO just delivers them through the skin to the tissues. But who knows, if you try DMSO by itself it could do something. We are the generation that is testing all these methods. Our sons in the future will reap the benefits.

If I was 20 years in the future, I am pretty sure at that point all the optimal methods will be brought into the PE game and we will all have 10x7's like DLD. That is going to be the new average lol. But right now we are the test subjects at this moment in time and we have to go with some empirical data and trust our brothers.
 
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GoodLookingNerd;737572 said:
I don't fully understand the properties of DMSO yet even though I worked with it in organic chemistry. But with simple knowledge, it helps deliver whatever is topically applied on top of the skin to the underlying tissues. We have talked about this in class and I do remember that lol.

There are two options to choose from. Either the iodine or magnesium chloride from what I was reading on thunders for plaque and scar removal. There may be more but I want to work with one of these. The guy with the link you provided makes it look easy. I am gonna give it a go. The other guy was using it on thunders and regained a 0.25 inch of girth from doing this.

Also, I don't think DMSO by itself will do anything to break down scar tissue. You need some sort of concoction of compounds/medicines that have a specific purpose for what you want to do to the underlying tissues. DMSO just delivers them through the skin to the tissues. But who knows, if you try DMSO by itself it could do something. We are the generation that is testing all these methods. Our sons in the future will reap the benefits.

If I was 20 years in the future, I am pretty sure at that point all the optimal methods will be brought into the PE game and we will all have 10x7's like DLD. That is going to be the new average lol. But right now we are the test subjects at this moment in time and we have to go with some empirical data and trust our brothers.
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Maybe we have a few test subjects with similar size and routines try different versions of the ointment. Then we can run our unofficial test over the coming months.
 
bty84;737582 said:
Maybe we have a few test subjects with similar size and routines try different versions of the ointment. Then we can run our unofficial test over the coming months.
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That is always the best way to test anything! Get as many people on board as possible and keep extremely good track of information.
 
Ordered pharmaceutical grade dsmo and vitamin e oil. Should start Thursday.

I haven't been stretching as much this weekend, really struggling with my wrapping. It's an art I haven't mastered.

The wife has enjoyed the gains a ton and won't leave me alone, added side effect I guess :D
[words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]Vlc[/words] is on almost constantly so I don't lose gains. Will try again tonight.
 
bty84;737663 said:
Ordered pharmaceutical grade dsmo and vitamin e oil. Should start Thursday.

I haven't been stretching as much this weekend, really struggling with my wrapping. It's an art I haven't mastered.

The wife has enjoyed the gains a ton and won't leave me alone, added side effect I guess :D

[words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]Vlc[/words] is on almost constantly so I don't lose gains. Will try again tonight.
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Wrapping is an art and does take time to master. There are many ways to wrap. Have you checked out wrapping forum and wrapping video forum? They both give great direction and much variety.
 
yeah i have watched a few dozen videos of various techniques. nothing is really working for me that's not super painful.

Glad the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] is squared away but i dont think that provides enough tension like the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] does.

I have been stalled at 7.5 for almost a week now and just today started behind the cheeks rep after every normal rep (i.e. out straight for 30 seconds, behind the cheeks 30 seconds, to the right 30 seconds, behind the cheeks 30 seconds) and feel like it's going to be sore tomorrow. Today's wrap was good enough to do an 11pound bundled hang for 3 minutes.

I have to remind myself it's a marathon, that i wont be 10 nbpel overnight.

I am looking forward to my DMSO/Vitamin E concoction starting in the following days, hoping to see how that can help break the plateau :)

Stretch onward brothers!
 
bty84;737736 said:
yeah i have watched a few dozen videos of various techniques. nothing is really working for me that's not super painful.

Glad the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] is squared away but i dont think that provides enough tension like the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] does.

I have been stalled at 7.5 for almost a week now and just today started behind the cheeks rep after every normal rep (i.e. out straight for 30 seconds, behind the cheeks 30 seconds, to the right 30 seconds, behind the cheeks 30 seconds) and feel like it's going to be sore tomorrow. Today's wrap was good enough to do an 11pound bundled hang for 3 minutes.

I have to remind myself it's a marathon, that i wont be 10 nbpel overnight.

I am looking forward to my DMSO/Vitamin E concoction starting in the following days, hoping to see how that can help break the plateau :)

Stretch onward brothers!
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Hey brotha, good to see that you're actually following through with this. College just came around the corner and is kicking my ass with payments so I might delay on the experiment.

I definitely see using these concoctions to help with girth gains big time. Softening hard tissue and ballooning it just makes sense to me. Does Vitamin E have properties that help de-calcify the scar tissue? There is a forum on thunders that talks heavily on many compounds/concoctions that were used and were reported with success. I'll try to find it. Be aware that it is advised to dilute the DMSO if it is higher concentration. The recommended amount is 70% and even with that, I am unaware with the certain amount. I messaged them on thunders as well and no response. WTF.

I'll try to get that link and you'll be able to make sense on how you would want to proceed with this experiment.
 
GoodLookingNerd;737754 said:
Hey brotha, good to see that you're actually following through with this. College just came around the corner and is kicking my ass with payments so I might delay on the experiment.

I definitely see using these concoctions to help with girth gains big time. Softening hard tissue and ballooning it just makes sense to me. Does Vitamin E have properties that help de-calcify the scar tissue? There is a forum on thunders that talks heavily on many compounds/concoctions that were used and were reported with success. I'll try to find it. Be aware that it is advised to dilute the DMSO if it is higher concentration. The recommended amount is 70% and even with that, I am unaware with the certain amount. I messaged them on thunders as well and no response. WTF.

I'll try to get that link and you'll be able to make sense on how you would want to proceed with this experiment.
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DMSO in Peyronie's Therapy - Peyronie's Disease Institute

This link explains how vitamin e helps breaking down fibros tissue
 
doublelongdaddy;737774 said:
Very helpful. I will read this and see where it takes me. I assume they are speaking of pure vitamin e.
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Indeed.

There are two trains of thought, oral vs topical.

I'm choosing to go topical as i have a very specific task/need. I'm ready to see some progress again, hoping this will help me break the plateau
 
GoodLookingNerd;737800 said:
NOICE!!! For sure. Super stoked that brothers are looking into this. I see awesome potential with this method. Keep us posted.

Got my ROP in the mail today. Gonna see if the magic is legit or a waste.
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i eagerly await your review, i'm sure others are looking for your honest feedback as well.
 
bty84;737794 said:
Indeed.

There are two trains of thought, oral vs topical.

I'm choosing to go topical as i have a very specific task/need. I'm ready to see some progress again, hoping this will help me break the plateau
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I would say topical for sure. How would it effect the penis taking it orally? Go right on the skin.
 
Got the DMSO and mixed it with the Vitamin E 3 to 1. still reasearching how to apply it, really dont want to burn myself.

i saw rollers for sale with the dmso, thought the vitamin e came with a dropper. I'll likely just use the dropper and spread the ointment with a cloth or toilet paper.

Stretching continues, i have started moving the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] down farther on my shaft away from the head as my wrapping sucks and hurts the glan. Was able to hang 11lbs for 10 minutes today. Erections have gotten impressive to say the least, though the length seemingly has stalled.
 
bty84;737889 said:
Got the DMSO and mixed it with the Vitamin E 3 to 1. still reasearching how to apply it, really dont want to burn myself.

i saw rollers for sale with the dmso, thought the vitamin e came with a dropper. I'll likely just use the dropper and spread the ointment with a cloth or toilet paper.

Stretching continues, i have started moving the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] down farther on my shaft away from the head as my wrapping sucks and hurts the glan. Was able to hang 11lbs for 10 minutes today. Erections have gotten impressive to say the least, though the length seemingly has stalled.
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Keep us up to date of the DMSO and VitE. If length has stalled I suggest changing the length work up. What are you doing for stretching right now for a routine, specifically. I can help you switch things up.
 
doublelongdaddy;737956 said:
Keep us up to date of the DMSO and VitE. If length has stalled I suggest changing the length work up. What are you doing for stretching right now for a routine, specifically. I can help you switch things up.
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Well it burned like hell the first time :/ this morning was just tingly.

My routine is twice a day.

Bundled: straight out, behind the cheeks, right, btc, left, btc, straight up, btc. (1 set bundled right, 1 bundled left) 30 seconds each

Same routine no bundle.

Hang for 5 minutes bundled left hang for 5 minutes bundled left.
[words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] on super tension for an hour.

Then [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] alternate cock ring for an hour through out the day.

Volume has been great. Just started hanging and easing into more time.
 
Try breaking it up into 5-6 five minute sessions throughout the day and then hang of [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] for 30 mins at the end of the day after all those reps throughout the day.
 
RR04;737994 said:
Try breaking it up into 5-6 five minute sessions throughout the day and then hang of [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] for 30 mins at the end of the day after all those reps throughout the day.
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I can do that on the weekends but at work isn't possible
 
I do mine at work. I'm in the office and just take a longer bathroom break :) I even close the door of my office and get some heat warmup with my heating pad in.
 
RR04;738027 said:
I do mine at work. I'm in the office and just take a longer bathroom break :) I even close the door of my office and get some heat warmup with my heating pad in.
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That's awesome, i dont have that opportunity just yet. DO you have your weights at work too?
 
I have another thrombotic vein this time on the top of my shaft. Volume work is delayed.

DMSO Vit E compound seems to be having a "ballooning" effect in the first few days, i imagine this would be exponentially better if paired with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words]. As i have already reached my girth goal, i'm not sure i'd see much length gains from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] for the price. I know in a perfect world i would be using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words]/SG/BM in rotation. It's just not there for me yet.

I have notice my silicon pieces i use with wrapping have started to crack, so i'll look for similar material replace them.

I have not measured in a while, i am hesitant to see the same 7.5 on the ruler when i look down.

Stretch on guys!
 
I don't use any weights at the moment. All manual and looking to incorporate my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] after another month or two.
 
RR04;738071 said:
I don't use any weights at the moment. All manual and looking to incorporate my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] after another month or two.
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Why wait so long on the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words]?
 
Great progress the first 6 weeks, I want to see how far I can take it. Plus I've had a couple of scares thus far with injuries so I'm taking it easy and building my way into it. I'm only 6 weeks in :)
 
doublelongdaddy;738115 said:
Why wait so long on the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words]?
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All the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] reviews i hear about are more geared towards girth, if i add any more girth i wont be able to fit in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lm[/words] or [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] :)

That and it's $400 so i am saving my pennies
 
bty84;738170 said:
All the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] reviews i hear about are more geared towards girth, if i add any more girth i wont be able to fit in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lm[/words] or [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] :)

That and it's $400 so i am saving my pennies
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I got you. What a great problem to have! :)
 
doublelongdaddy;738209 said:
I got you. What a great problem to have! :)
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I have been out of the girth exercises for a few weeks with a thrombotic vein again. Measured and was up to 6.25 for girth. Thinking the dmso/vitamin E is working to that level.

wishing it got deeper to the tunica/ligament level, i'll press on!

School starts tonight, not sure how consistent i'll be able to do manual stretching, might rely heavily on the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] for awhile.
 
bty84;738247 said:
I have been out of the girth exercises for a few weeks with a thrombotic vein again. Measured and was up to 6.25 for girth. Thinking the dmso/vitamin E is working to that level.

wishing it got deeper to the tunica/ligament level, i'll press on!

School starts tonight, not sure how consistent i'll be able to do manual stretching, might rely heavily on the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] for awhile.
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Has the thrombosis healed?
 
doublelongdaddy;738384 said:
Has the thrombosis healed?
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No, I'm avoiding everything girth related.

I have noticed I'm not able to completely twist over for bundles.

I have gotten up to 20 minutes hanging 11 lbs. I figure hanging and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] is safest until the thrombosis goes away.
 
bty84;738452 said:
No, I'm avoiding everything girth related.

I have noticed I'm not able to completely twist over for bundles.

I have gotten up to 20 minutes hanging 11 lbs. I figure hanging and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] is safest until the thrombosis goes away.
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Is there pain when doing bundles? Why can't you do it with the thrombosis?
 
doublelongdaddy;738489 said:
With Thrombosis you can continue with flaccid exercises, no matter what they are. You will only need to avoid erect work until it heals. Here is the proper treatment thread: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...largement/4127-thrombosed-vein-treatment.html
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I have been focusing on hanging after my sessions.

i'm up to 20 minutes in a single session.

I'm hoping to continue extending this length of time.

is there such thing as having the member lose length for any reason? I'm nervous that i am seeing different lengths from day to day, but they arent getting longer :(
 
bty84;738550 said:
I have been focusing on hanging after my sessions.

i'm up to 20 minutes in a single session.

I'm hoping to continue extending this length of time.

is there such thing as having the member lose length for any reason? I'm nervous that i am seeing different lengths from day to day, but they arent getting longer :(
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Hang before the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], that is the most effective way to go about it. Healing extended is a huge improvement over just hanging and since you got the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] already that's the best use you can get from it.

As far as loosing gains, I only lost gains once after being off from pe for a year but then just recently I was off from pe for 6 months an kept my size. Don't worry about that bro, keep your mind on the gains!
 
rocky1243;738634 said:
Hang before the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], that is the most effective way to go about it. Healing extended is a huge improvement over just hanging and since you got the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] already that's the best use you can get from it.

As far as loosing gains, I only lost gains once after being off from pe for a year but then just recently I was off from pe for 6 months an kept my size. Don't worry about that bro, keep your mind on the gains!
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Completely agree and I will also suggest that you read the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] Thread as this explains this in depth.
 
rocky1243;738634 said:
Hang before the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], that is the most effective way to go about it. Healing extended is a huge improvement over just hanging and since you got the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] already that's the best use you can get from it.

As far as loosing gains, I only lost gains once after being off from pe for a year but then just recently I was off from pe for 6 months an kept my size. Don't worry about that bro, keep your mind on the gains!
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I always do my manual stretching with bundles, then hang, then extend with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]

In the morning i forego the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] portion as i have the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]tugger[/words] on basically all day.

I just picked up a heating pad, i'm worried i wasnt warm enough. this should fix that.
 
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