pdevil;622147 said:
Well, from what he said about the wire, I guess he wears the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] with the PF bell, which makes it good to wear at night.
[words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] with the belt is easier during the day than the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] (I know, some people say you can easily hide it, but I just can't walk in a normal fashion with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] on).

Tried to do the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] PF bell combo tonight, but I woke up after about 90 minutes. Maybe the tension was too high. I'll try it again tonight.
The combo is great... I could get to my max stretch length without discomfort or loss of circulation for more than one hour before bedtime yesterday.

could have been to high tension and you rolled around or something allowing it to easily use suction. at night just use a moderate amount of tension.
 
Okay, I'll definitely have to learn to use less tension. Last night I woke up after about 90 minutes again.
I hadn't lost suction, but the base of the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and and my penis being pressed against it felt very uncomfortable.
I tried to fall asleep again (changing the angle of my penis a couple of times), but just wasn't able to... so after about two more hours I took the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] off and fell asleep.
On the positive side, that resulted in a net [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] time with high tension of about 5 hours yesterday. :)

Just need to find the right tension, it seems.

Also, I would love to be able to use the big bell, but it seems impossible as the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] bars are too close together. Or has anyone found a way to do that? Maybe putting it on the 'wrong' side of the head piece?
Will try that tonight.
 
pdevil;622288 said:
Okay, I'll definitely have to learn to use less tension. Last night I woke up after about 90 minutes again.
I hadn't lost suction, but the base of the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and and my penis being pressed against it felt very uncomfortable.
I tried to fall asleep again (changing the angle of my penis a couple of times), but just wasn't able to... so after about two more hours I took the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] off and fell asleep.
On the positive side, that resulted in a net [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] time with high tension of about 5 hours yesterday. :)

Just need to find the right tension, it seems.

Also, I would love to be able to use the big bell, but it seems impossible as the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] bars are too close together. Or has anyone found a way to do that? Maybe putting it on the 'wrong' side of the head piece?
Will try that tonight.

At least now you know what to do next time. If you want- you can put something around your base so it does not feel so uncomfortable. :)
 
Yes, good idea, thanks! I will do that, too.
Keep your fingers crossed, that I'll get it to work better tonight. :)

Zambrodom3;622290 said:
At least now you know what to do next time. If you want- you can put something around your base so it does not feel so uncomfortable. :)
 
pdevil;622294 said:
Yes, good idea, thanks! I will do that, too.
Keep your fingers crossed, that I'll get it to work better tonight. :)

No problem, use a combination- some cloth material (or whatever material you find comfortable to use) on the base and less tension. Those are the key moments. And of course- watch not to roll over, cause you might get it off. :)
 
When I use the PF I do to the left one day and the next day I wear it to the right. Just imagine if the research is true and you have the time. 140hours a week would be 560 a month .6-1inch in 2 months.
 
Anthony78;622308 said:
When I use the PF I do to the left one day and the next day I wear it to the right. Just imagine if the research is true and you have the time. 140hours a week would be 560 a month .6-1inch in 2 months.

It amazes me how much time men are getting out of their [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words], so much more time than we ever thought would be possible. And the great thing is that it can be used during sleep making 24 hours a day a real possibility.
 
boohoohoo;625731 said:
This is a great website. Guys are always willing to help out and there is way over a decades worth of info here.

The best mens site ever!
 
How I apply the PF/extender combo :)

<iframe src="http://flashservice.xvideos.com/embedframe/9991074" frameborder=0 width=510 height=400 scrolling=no></iframe>
 
youknowme123321;627074 said:
How I apply the PF/extender combo :)

<iframe src="http://flashservice.xvideos.com/embedframe/9991074" frameborder=0 width=510 height=400 scrolling=no></iframe>

Found it! :) Thanks for the great video! Can you link the sleeve please? :)
 
jgood1990;646703 said:
This is by far the best mod I've used, the best of both products!

It is becoming quite the rave!
 
Can you guys tell me if I can wear the phallogenetics at max tension for 1hour and also will I be able to adjust the extension every 30minutes?
 
huge-girth;647915 said:
Can you guys tell me if I can wear the phallogenetics at max tension for 1hour and also will I be able to adjust the extension every 30minutes?

That should not be a problem, I do think that everyone using this mod should readjust tension at least every hour but 30 minutes would be better. The thing is with this set up, just like when these tools are used alone, tension can slip over time and become less of a solid stretch. Getting in there and readjusting will definitely bring gains quicker.
 
To get rid of the PF pump I'd try to use a one way quick disconnect valve as used on the Joel Kaplan pumps. The female valve would go on the bell. Then you would use the male end attatched with a piece of clear hose & use mouth pressure in place of the pump. You're only going to suck out air so don't think it's gay! Have a spare male hose set up so if it's discovered at work you can say" I found this, wtf is it?" Lol
 
how did he attach the PF to [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] ??? i coudnt see anything attatched to the PF....can soemone please explain with a pic ???
 
pogzee the easiest way is to take some steelwire and put around the bottleneck of the bell and then through the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] bracket.
 
I really cannot wait to become a proud owner of the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words].
 
Aimingforthetop;648299 said:
pogzee the easiest way is to take some steelwire and put around the bottleneck of the bell and then through the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] bracket.

i use the silicone tube of the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Sg[/words] itself and it works fine for me......
plus i would prefer a thick cotton thread inplace of steelwire
 
well steelwire in the right thickness gives a perfect grip in the bell and makes it easy to setup. i tried a thread. and the silicon and i wasnt impresssed.

but it is all down to each individual taste :)
 
You guys are enjoying life in the PE world. When I grow up, I want to be like you guys using the Phallogenetics
 
huge-girth;648341 said:
You guys are enjoying life in the PE world. When I grow up, I want to be like you guys using the Phallogenetics

Using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] n the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] you can get great results:)
 
I am going to add the new name to the thread.
 
shortdick;648345 said:
Using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] n the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] you can get great results:)

I want very fast length gains which means I need to combine the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words]. I've started my routine today.
 
huge-girth;648385 said:
I want very fast length gains which means I need to combine the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words]. I've started my routine today.

Good luck my Brother!
 
Anybody use a vacextender head that's been out for years? You can turn your [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] into basically the same thing for 1/4 Price of a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words].
 
huge-girth;648750 said:
What are those clips iron metals? What are they called and how can I get them?

get them on ebay mate, they're called paper clamps
 
How many hours are you able to wear you phallogenetics daily? And what are gains like? I'm still of the option that the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] when used alone gives more [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] than this new setup. You guys will have to convince me by gaining half inch in length in 5 to 6 weeks. If any of you can do this, I will be convinced.
 
huge-girth;648750 said:
What are those clips iron metals? What are they called and how can I get them?

also called paper clips check out stationery store....plus i dont think you need those clips the sleeve will still hold the PF bell
 
pogzee;648777 said:
also called paper clips check out stationery store....plus i dont think you need those clips the sleeve will still hold the PF bell

the noose gradually becomes lose mate and your tension will get less and less, the clips stop the noose from slipping
 
grow4me;648781 said:
the noose gradually becomes lose mate and your tension will get less and less, the clips stop the noose from slipping

how about tieing a thick cotton thread ???
 
the guy that started thread uses thin wire wrapping around [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] and into holes of [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words]. holds it better and wont coome loose.
 
This mod is awesome! I did it the same way ykm did on page 1, using the Miracle Slider [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words]. It's a completly different feeling compared to using the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] the normal way. I can stretch my penis out longer than my BPEL with this setup, that probably means that erect gains are on their way already! Best thing you can do after an intense [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] session, keeping your penis stretched out to maximize Time under Tension!

So if you happen to have both devices, the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] and the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] (or any other "classic style" [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]), give it a try! No problems with circulation, you can wear this for hours, just like the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words].
 
MoS-Newbie;653622 said:
This mod is awesome! I did it the same way ykm did on page 1, using the Miracle Slider [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words]. It's a completly different feeling compared to using the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] the normal way. I can stretch my penis out longer than my BPEL with this setup, that probably means that erect gains are on their way already! Best thing you can do after an intense [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] session, keeping your penis stretched out to maximize Time under Tension!

So if you happen to have both devices, the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] and the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] (or any other "classic style" [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]), give it a try! No problems with circulation, you can wear this for hours, just like the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words].

I cannot wait to try the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] combo I think it's the same thing with the Phallogenetics.
 
huge-girth;653649 said:
I cannot wait to try the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] combo I think it's the same thing with the Phallogenetics.

I can't wait either, not bad for your 5th try:p
 
doublelongdaddy;653658 said:
I can't wait either, not bad for your 5th try:p

I actually feel ashamed knowing it's my 5th but it's not my fault because I didn't know about the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] before.
 
huge-girth;653692 said:
I actually feel ashamed knowing it's my 5th but it's not my fault because I didn't know about the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] before.

Thats the reason you're our five-star mod:P
 
huge-girth;653692 said:
I actually feel ashamed knowing it's my 5th but it's not my fault because I didn't know about the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] before.

How many times did it take Edison to make the lightbulb? You are way ahead of him so don't feel bad, this time you will get it right.
 
johnny-wang;658063 said:
How long can you guys wear this mod nonstop? Like 2 hours?. . .

Two hours may be too long or maybe not. I suggest going an hour first and make sure you are not retaining fluid, if not push for a two hour session. After this you can determine if you can go longer.
 
Are the vacuum bells from autoextender the same quality as the phallosans?

I already have an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and wish to use it with a vacuum bell, but I dont wish to fork out the money for a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] when i can get a vacuum bell setup for under $100 and do what the phallogenetics guys are already doing
 
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