Here is a pic of a good set up I've been using. This combo gives the good solid downward stretch on the ligs from the rods and pairs it with the vacuum cap so there is no loss of circulation and no need for breaks. I have a small metal wire wrapped around the top part of the bell and I put it through the 2 top holes in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] and twist it on. As you can see I'm able to get max tension with this set up and wear it as long as I want straight without the need to restore circulation. It would be an expensive set up to just go out and buy but if you have both products then it's a great way to use themView attachment 29827View attachment 29827
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THANK YOU!!!! THANK YOU!!!! What the flip!! i've tried using my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] with my PF and couldnt figure it out. after see that i am now just like, DUUUUHHHHH!!!
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that looks very comfortable, im using my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] with the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] at the moment, its comfy but im not sure about having my foreskin stretched for long periods of time. I worry that its going to get stretched to much, i been looking at maybe getting the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] head attachment to replace the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] but now ive seen this i may look into this method instead. great stuff thanks mate
grow4me;620581 said:
Yah I've never tried the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] but I am cut and I've heard it works better for guys un cut. I've had this on 3 straight hours right now and I plan on about 4 more hours in it today. Plan is to then hang a set or 2 then put [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] back on at lower tension using the belt system
Fuck. Never thought of a chicken wire/speaker wire type thing to hold the PF in place where the tension clamp hook should be. Very genius man.
Now we just got to work on getting that damn pump off the bell. That thing is fucking ridiculous.
Is that toilet paper I see @ the base?
Now we just got to work on getting that damn pump off the bell. That thing is fucking ridiculous.
Is that toilet paper I see @ the base?
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WOW!!!!!!! To be honest that is just (sorry [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] for this) FUUUUCKIN Genius!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!If I could click liek and thanks to that post more than 10 times I damn would!!!!!
Guys, when you try it can you PLEASE tell me whether that mod is better than the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] one (cause that might change my opinion and make me get a PF instead of a [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]!!!). Please after you try that- please tell me whether you find it better than the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]/VLC combo!!
Also- man can you rate the comfortability of this? Is it very comfortable to use that mod?
Guys, when you try it can you PLEASE tell me whether that mod is better than the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] one (cause that might change my opinion and make me get a PF instead of a [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]!!!). Please after you try that- please tell me whether you find it better than the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]/VLC combo!!
Also- man can you rate the comfortability of this? Is it very comfortable to use that mod?
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grow4me;620581 said:
Wonder if it works better than the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] as well...
smerc;620624 said:
i tried wrapping metal wire around where the tension clamp goes but then looping extra wire up to the glans attachment of my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. i had to make my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] like 15 inches. i never thought to do it the way he did. i smacked myself in the face when i read his OP.
one time i forgot my pump at my office and wanted to wear my PF at night. so i put my glans all the way into the bell then unrolled my sleeve like i normally would. but then i put a little piece of scotch tape over the hole of he PF to create a seal. worked great
Zambrodom3;620628 said:WOW!!!!!!! To be honest that is just (sorry [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] for this) FUUUUCKIN Genius!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!If I could click liek and thanks to that post more than 10 times I damn would!!!!!
Guys, when you try it can you PLEASE tell me whether that mod is better than the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] one (cause that might change my opinion and make me get a PF instead of a [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]!!!). Please after you try that- please tell me whether you find it better than the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]/VLC combo!!
Also- man can you rate the comfortability of this? Is it very comfortable to use that mod?
i am going to try this hopefully tonight. i fully believe it will be better then the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]vlc[/words] and [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words]. and WAAAAAYY easier to apply then the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words]Zambrodom3;620631 said:
youknowme123321;620642 said:
Yea! Can't wait to see what you report back!
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smerc;620780 said:
Yep...
Yes I've used tp at the base of my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] for a long time. I just take 4 squares that are still connected then fold them in half 3 times and it makes a nice soft rectangle to put over the base part. I've used a baby sock in there at times as well but what I like about the tp is I just throw it out after my session instead of having to wash a piece of cloth or sock I just use a new piece the next datsmerc;620624 said:
Yah I used string in my trials but I prefer the metal wire. I had a string piece stretch out too far and loosen up and detach from the bell. I wrap the metal wire around the top part of the bell then I give it a twist or 2 so it stays tight around the bell then i have the wire long enough to put one side through the right and left holes at the top then twist those 2 together on the back of the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words]youknowme123321;620766 said:
So the suction is on your glans and the entire length of the penis is being properly stretched using this?
Plus, I think it would be REALLY AWESOME if we get some guys that have both the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] and the PF post what they think the difference is. You can not give a good comparisson, but the others who have tried both would be really interesting to hear- so.. anyone... youknowme, you got the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] as well?
Yes I feel the stretch the most in my ligs at the base of penis just like when I hang or use the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] with strapping inZambrodom3;621109 said:So the suction is on your glans and the entire length of the penis is being properly stretched using this?
Jdcsd;620572 said:
Lets say that i am starting to use an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for the first time and i will use this setup. OK can i then start at 2-3 hours sets if my penis like that and do max tension right away ?
Commodore;621572 said:
I am quite unsure whether you'd be able to do so, cause [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] is a type of [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] where you have to 1st stretch and then add more length stretch to the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. I believe youknowme would asnwer the best here, cause he own a slider [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and I can definitely see the PROs of it over the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]- especially when it comes to going for max stretch power.
youknowme123321;620766 said:
can they be seen now????
Commodore;621572 said:
it is tough to use the slider [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] with the PF. this is b/c the threaded rods arent friendly to the silicone sleeve. I have just purchased a non threaded slider through ebay to use with my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. will let you know how it goesZambrodom3;621577 said:
youknowme123321;621579 said:
Now they work great! Amazing pics!!! Thank you very much!
I'm just wondering how'd I put it on & off, when going to the toilet.
Any possible chance of seeing a video set up of this?
Any possible chance of seeing a video set up of this?
well, i am using vacum [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] from autoextender and i am starting pe after some brake. OK so what i meant was,, is it ok for the penis to go max stretching right away with this vacumExtender ( is it ok for the penis ) ?
b/c veterans guys always talk about go slow in the begining to let the penis adapt, but i am not shure if u have to adapt your penis if you are using PF
setup or VacumExtender b/c u are not cutting circulation in no way and just pulling the penis.
i am just thinking about this as i am eating chocolate cake with cream .
b/c veterans guys always talk about go slow in the begining to let the penis adapt, but i am not shure if u have to adapt your penis if you are using PF
setup or VacumExtender b/c u are not cutting circulation in no way and just pulling the penis.
i am just thinking about this as i am eating chocolate cake with cream .
Commodore;621590 said:
The exact same as I was going to say! I believe length sessions vary in:
1-Intensity
2-Time
3-Types of exercises
4-Types of gains
But here I am just going to mention the Intensity-Time ratio I believe works the best. Since length gain mechanics are based on the principle of exhaustion and riding the wave of fatigue- it is best for you to get as long legnth session as possible to reach exhaustion and then continue the mitosis that is happening in the ligament or tunica ( [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] theory ). Now it is true that a big weight can get you really good gains, but there are 2 reasons why I would advise you to start off lightly and the steadily increase:
1- Because of adaptation. If you start with the maximum intensity possible you will see gains for the first few months and then, when your penis gets adapted to this level of intensity- you'd have to incrase it so you can break the plateau and give you penis a stronger stimuli to adapt to. That way- you'd have to upgrade and upgrade to a level where you'd have to PE max intensity all day long. I really don't feel like I can explain this properly, but put into simple words- try to take your "newbie" gains and then move on to more instensity.
2- Because of your poor level of penile conditioning (because you have deconditioned from the last time you stopped PE-ing and exercising you penis)- if you just up to a very big intensity- there are is a big risk of injury. Take bodybuilding as an example- if you work out and stop going to the gym- you come back after 3-4 months (in which you have already lost your strength and strength endurance) and jump to the HUGE weight and intense sessions- not a good idea....
I do not know whether you understood me or not, but I am not so good at explanations! rofl! If there's anything you still don't understand from that confusing (even for me) post (rofl!!!!)- make sure to ask- I and the other brothers will be around to answer!
Zambrodom3;621598 said:The exact same as I was going to say! I believe length sessions vary in:
1-Intensity
2-Time
3-Types of exercises
4-Types of gains
But here I am just going to mention the Intensity-Time ratio I believe works the best. Since length gain mechanics are based on the principle of exhaustion and riding the wave of fatigue- it is best for you to get as long legnth session as possible to reach exhaustion and then continue the mitosis that is happening in the ligament or tunica ( [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] theory ). Now it is true that a big weight can get you really good gains, but there are 2 reasons why I would advise you to start off lightly and the steadily increase:
1- Because of adaptation. If you start with the maximum intensity possible you will see gains for the first few months and then, when your penis gets adapted to this level of intensity- you'd have to incrase it so you can break the plateau and give you penis a stronger stimuli to adapt to. That way- you'd have to upgrade and upgrade to a level where you'd have to PE max intensity all day long. I really don't feel like I can explain this properly, but put into simple words- try to take your "newbie" gains and then move on to more instensity.
2- Because of your poor level of penile conditioning (because you have deconditioned from the last time you stopped PE-ing and exercising you penis)- if you just up to a very big intensity- there are is a big risk of injury. Take bodybuilding as an example- if you work out and stop going to the gym- you come back after 3-4 months (in which you have already lost your strength and strength endurance) and jump to the HUGE weight and intense sessions- not a good idea....
I do not know whether you understood me or not, but I am not so good at explanations! rofl! If there's anything you still don't understand from that confusing (even for me) post (rofl!!!!)- make sure to ask- I and the other brothers will be around to answer!
Actually this was very understandeble, that post was that kind of reading that made me think of PE in a new and so much better way. I think i will use my VacumExtender at lower intensity and wait for gains ( i am now using intensity that make my shaft stiff ).
great post Thanks Zambrodom3
Commodore;621623 said:
No problem mate! Happy to hear I helped!
doublelongdaddy;621799 said:
It would be great if it can be worn for 6-7 hours straight with no taking off and I can totally see that happening. I remember youknowme said he would try sleeping with it on...
Commodore;621954 said:
Mate, not only that, but it is now official that it can be worn while you sleep as well. Youknowme officially said it- he tried sleeping with it and it worked MUCH better than the PF only according to him! this means 10 for the entire day and 7-8 more while you sleep= monster rate of gaining!
Zambrodom3;621969 said:Mate, not only that, but it is now official that it can be worn while you sleep as well. Youknowme officially said it- he tried sleeping with it and it worked MUCH better than the PF only according to him! this means 10 for the entire day and 7-8 more while you sleep= monster rate of gaining!
Sleep time PE is the future of this sport for sure.
doublelongdaddy;621993 said:
Yes, especially with all the new things that come out and the brotherhood figures out. Like the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]/SG combo, the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]/PF one, homemade hangers and MANY more! It is truly amazing how crative people are and I can definitely see PE being on an entire new level after a few years!
Commodore;622032 said:
There is nomagic number of hours you should perform exercises that you should get a magical number of gains. Everyone gains at a different rate and diffent speed. Some people's tunicas are a bit tougher to stretch, some have higher, tighter ligaments etc. It is just that it is a BIG mark that once has been reached- should definitely show the results of the hard work!
Commodore;622032 said:
Zambrodom3;622036 said:There is nomagic number of hours you should perform exercises that you should get a magical number of gains. Everyone gains at a different rate and diffent speed. Some people's tunicas are a bit tougher to stretch, some have higher, tighter ligaments etc. It is just that it is a BIG mark that once has been reached- should definitely show the results of the hard work!
isn't the 1000 hours based around the studies done on [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]? also 1 hours extending for 1000 days will not yield many if any gains. but 100 10 hour days is a much different story. So like Zam said their are individual differences in gains that depend on the person and then there are also differences in how the person achieves there time worn
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youknowme123321;622048 said:
It might be some [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] study, I do not know, but we are all different in anatomy and structure. No one will gain the same as the other even if he does the exact same exercises with the same intensity. I believe it is a mark where results should be expected, but I do not believe there is a certain number of gains are must be achieved after hitting that mark.
Commodore;622054 said:ok thanks, i just started four days ago using my vacuum [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and now i am goin for the 1000 hours, done with 17 hours , 983 to go
Haha! Good to hear you aare going for it as well! Good luck, open a thread to keep us posted on that.
Zambrodom3;622052 said:It might be some [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] study, I do not know, but we are all different in anatomy and structure. No one will gain the same as the other even if he does the exact same exercises with the same intensity. I believe it is a mark where results should be expected, but I do not believe there is a certain number of gains are must be achieved after hitting that mark.
i absolutely agree. the 1" is just the average. the average for 1000 hours is probably actually .6" but being men they round up
lolAnthony78;622083 said:
Wow, most people do the exact opposite- [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Sg[/words] while they work and PF while they sleep, cause they need to take the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] off to restore circulation and put it on again. Looks like you have some great wrapping or whatever you do with it.
Well, from what he said about the wire, I guess he wears the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] with the PF bell, which makes it good to wear at night.
[words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] with the belt is easier during the day than the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] (I know, some people say you can easily hide it, but I just can't walk in a normal fashion with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] on).
Tried to do the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] PF bell combo tonight, but I woke up after about 90 minutes. Maybe the tension was too high. I'll try it again tonight.
The combo is great... I could get to my max stretch length without discomfort or loss of circulation for more than one hour before bedtime yesterday.
[words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] with the belt is easier during the day than the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] (I know, some people say you can easily hide it, but I just can't walk in a normal fashion with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] on).
Tried to do the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] PF bell combo tonight, but I woke up after about 90 minutes. Maybe the tension was too high. I'll try it again tonight.
The combo is great... I could get to my max stretch length without discomfort or loss of circulation for more than one hour before bedtime yesterday.
Zambrodom3;622120 said:Wow, most people do the exact opposite- [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Sg[/words] while they work and PF while they sleep, cause they need to take the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] off to restore circulation and put it on again. Looks like you have some great wrapping or whatever you do with it.
pdevil;622147 said:
What was the reason for you to get only a 90 minute session?
To be honest I don't know yet.
After 90 minutes I just woke up and the head of my penis was not completely in the PF bell anymore (I might have lost suction). I was too tired to sort everything out, so I took everything off and slept turtling.
I will see how it goes tonight.
After 90 minutes I just woke up and the head of my penis was not completely in the PF bell anymore (I might have lost suction). I was too tired to sort everything out, so I took everything off and slept turtling.
I will see how it goes tonight.
Zambrodom3;622150 said:
pdevil;622158 said:To be honest I don't know yet.
After 90 minutes I just woke up and the head of my penis was not completely in the PF bell anymore (I might have lost suction). I was too tired to sort everything out, so I took everything off and slept turtling.
I will see how it goes tonight.
Please do! Youkm is going to make a vid on how he puts it on, I believe this is going to be pretty helpful!