Has anyone heard of PGE-1 for gaining penis size, what do the routines look like? It looks interesting but I wanted to know what other people had to say about it. I posted this on Penis Enlargement gym but no one responded.
PGE-1, What is it?
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imdoingthis4me;495738 said:
You inject a certain amount into your penis and the idea is to stay around 95%-100% erect for 2 hours (at first), then for it to start going down. The idea is that when you are hard for that amount of time, it forces the tissue to stretch the dorsal tendon and also the spongy tissue inside the penis and that will slowly allow you to gain length and girth. Then also, the injections will give you more erections at night, which also encourages growth. It is best to keep a routine while injecting, ideally stretching 6 times a day (mini-sessions: piss breaks etc) along with a nice length session (say maybe 20 min of manual stretching or hanging) and you could also work girth too. What I have been told is to inject before bed (at first you inject a few hours before bed, so you can get the timing down. You don't want to go to sleep and get a priapism. After awhile, you know your dose, and you can inject right before bed). Injecting before bed keeps you hard all night and that REM stage of sleep is where your body releases growth hormone and you do all of your bodily repairs (just like a bodybuilder). A side note, you must make sure you have let at least an hour pass after eating before you go to bed, because with food in your stomach, less GH is released in the REM portion of your sleep. The REM portion of your sleep happens in the first 2-3 hours, it's that deep, heavy sleep where all the growth occurs.
I have been told that at first, you don't want to inject more than 3 times a week. LIke anything else, you build up gradually.
I would think it would be best to do a length session (manuals/hanging) before injecting, then go to bed. It should keep you at your max and encourage more growth. The information I am giving you is from a patent on injections used for penis enlargement written by a doctor who specialized in the injections. Any other information regarding REM sleep is from research I did when I was investigating use of HGH (human growth hormone) for bodybuilding and if it would have any effect on penis growth.
Here are links to the patents: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7671091.html
http://brevets-patents.ic.gc.ca/opic...4/summary.html
You should read these first and foremost to see the idea behind injections.
Here is a link to a man names Ronielle, who is a respected member of the Penis Enlargement community. He invented the divosuit and divocup, two Penis Enlargement devices that are used by very many Penis Enlargementer's from this forum and others. Ronielle had great success with the injections, going from 7x5 to 8.5x7 in 18 months and he has documented his progress with pictures and posts. He even has a "newbie routine" for injecting PGE1, as it is becoming popular among the Penis Enlargement community. Here's the link: http://www.chempe.com/search?updated-max=2011-02-17T17:11:00-05:00&max-results=100
This link has tons and tons of information, he obviously put a lot of time and effort into it. YOu can even purchase time to speak with him and ask him questions about it.
Well, this is pretty much all I know. Another user here (petersouth) has just started the injections. His progress thread is here: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?67395-Peter-South-s-PGE1-(caverject)-Experiment
If you ask him nicely, he may even tell you where he gets it from, if you are unable to find any yourself.
Good luck!
Oh, and PGE1 is a vasodilator. That means it makes blood vessels expand. It is used to treat erectile dysfunction primarily.
doublelongdaddy;495754 said:
I sent you a PM with the link DLD.
Didn't want to post the link petersouth gave me on a thread without his permission.
If you're sketchy about that link, maybe you know a doctor who could help you out? Or a urologist who isn't a peckerhead and will actually help you out? You can always say you are impotent too if you don't know anyone. It's used to treat impotency.
anth1225;495848 said:
Ya. Maybe someone will make a video of how to properly inject and post it.
Sorry it took so long to reply. First off thankyou for all the information you have given me, and second are there a lot of Penis Enlargement'ers who would swear by this method. Im thinking injecting 3 times a week would produce some scarring, possibly? How about a novice trying this out?
I guess after I have made up my mind the second obsticle would be actually getting the stuff I am injecting this stuff in my dick and I am not chancing anything!!!!
I guess after I have made up my mind the second obsticle would be actually getting the stuff I am injecting this stuff in my dick and I am not chancing anything!!!!
imdoingthis4me;496233 said:
A doctor told me 2-3 times a week, no more than three.
Use very thin needles, it won't scar up. Just move up a half centimeter each time you inject so it's not always in the same spot.
Size of needles I use is half inch in length, 29 gauge needle
MikeShlort;495749 said:
I take it you're taking melatonin as well? Maybe a timed-release version. Fluoride has been known to calcify the pineal gland(where you produce melatonin naturally) which could inhibit firing to the pituitary gland to produce certain hormones. Some say this wont inhibit melatonin product, but it might be worth a shot.
In other words: Melatonin might help you achieve a longer REM and better quality of sleep. However some people don't experience a better quality of sleep and wake up drowsy. I myself take 5-10mg sometimes throughout the week and damn near always have vivid dreams(haven't had a wet one yet from it).
Another thing:
Gelatin protein(9-10+g on an empty stomach)before bed can also help GH production(maybe due to the glycine). Before bed because of the glycine, which may or may not be why gelatin helps GH production.
Might be something to look into.
I should elaborate. I say "damn near always have vivid dreams" because I have my nights and days mixed up. I might possibly always get vivid dreams from dosing melatonin.
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The gelatin before bed because glycine makes you sleepy. Glycine might also help achieve a longer REM.
You might look into magnesium as well(plays a role in GH production, can't remember if directly or indirectly), the glycinate(glycine) form is cheap(ish) and also contains 18% elemental magnesium. Never take oxide or high doses of citrate(400mg+ from experience, I almost shit my pants running to the bathroom).
Sorry to thread jack "imdoingthis4me". Looked like you got most of your questions answered from others though.
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The gelatin before bed because glycine makes you sleepy. Glycine might also help achieve a longer REM.
You might look into magnesium as well(plays a role in GH production, can't remember if directly or indirectly), the glycinate(glycine) form is cheap(ish) and also contains 18% elemental magnesium. Never take oxide or high doses of citrate(400mg+ from experience, I almost shit my pants running to the bathroom).
Sorry to thread jack "imdoingthis4me". Looked like you got most of your questions answered from others though.
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No I don't take melatonin, I sleep well 5-6 days a week. Just a theory of mine, I rememebr reading over and over on bodybuilding forums and hearing form the guys in the supplement store that I mustn't eat before bed when taking a GH supplement (or injecting) Thanks for your post though, I will definitely look into this if I feel I need more REM sleep. I usually sleep 3-4 hours before i wake up to piss so I should be good.
PS I took melatonin when i was taking a GH oral product, had it in it. I didn't notice much of a difference as I wear myself out during the day usually, and sleep well
PS I took melatonin when i was taking a GH oral product, had it in it. I didn't notice much of a difference as I wear myself out during the day usually, and sleep well
If you're only going to do it 3 times a week you will need to do it 5 hours a day if what Roneille says is true.
I seem to be naturally settling into 4 hour sessions every other day rather than 2 hour sessions every day like I originally planned. It's too draining mentally and physically for me personally to do it every day but every other day seems right.
Every other day Sunday Tuesday Thursday Saturday would give you roughly 4 sessions per week. If you did 4 hours per session that would give you 16 hours.
I seem to be naturally settling into 4 hour sessions every other day rather than 2 hour sessions every day like I originally planned. It's too draining mentally and physically for me personally to do it every day but every other day seems right.
Every other day Sunday Tuesday Thursday Saturday would give you roughly 4 sessions per week. If you did 4 hours per session that would give you 16 hours.
petersouth;496454 said:
Hey petersouth,
so you read Roneille's thread?
He was mentioning that he had to add other chemicals to his injection to get a 100% erection.
Do you find that the PGE1 alone gets you to 100%?
I have started them as well, and so far I have had two 2hour sessions at about 85%-90%. I am wondering, when you take the 4 hour dose, does it get you to 100%, and how much of that 4 hours are you at 100%?
Thanks a lot for oyur help
So it's as simple as injecting Caverject every second day to get a 3-6 hour erection then continue doing Penis Enlargement and that's it? Nothing else?
8incyclops;496471 said:
Well make sure you are aware of all the possible things that can go wrong if you get a priapism, and all the ways that you can get the erection to go down if you have been erect for too long, or else it could turn black and fall off. No joke.
MikeShlort;496583 said:
I tried it years ago but had to stop due to having trouble getting the injections I was using Caverject it was about $15 a syringe,I know that erection ache,it seems it should work if you keep at it if only I can get it I would start again.
not to worry, I am learning from all this 
Not a video but detailed injection instructions with pictures
http://www.centralfloridaurology.com/new/pdfs/Trimix_Injection_instructions.pdf
http://www.centralfloridaurology.com/new/pdfs/Trimix_Injection_instructions.pdf
Not a video but detailed injection instructions with pictures
http://www.centralfloridaurology.com/new/pdfs/Trimix_Injection_instructions.pdf
http://www.centralfloridaurology.com/new/pdfs/Trimix_Injection_instructions.pdf
Ronin_OZ;497018 said:Would this work to straighten a penis with a curve? If the curve was from an underdeveloped corpora cavernosa? And only injection into that side? I think it might, or i could be wrong
That could work although the Caverject would be in both sides because it goes through the whole penis no just 1 side.
I still think a good [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] would fix that right up for you combined with jelqing.
Ronin_OZ;497018 said:Would this work to straighten a penis with a curve? If the curve was from an underdeveloped corpora cavernosa? And only injection into that side? I think it might, or i could be wrong
Holy fuck dude, i think your avatar can straighten out a penis with a curve.
It may if you do lots of jelqing with it but alone i probably would not
Ronin_OZ;497135 said:
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I want to start doing Chem Penis Enlargement. How the F*@k do I start!?!!?!?!?!?!?
houseofr00bees;519594 said:
Why because you tried Penis Enlargement for two months and haven't gained so now you want to start doing advanced and potentially dangerous methods? Please. You're not ready.
You didn't even bother to read all the posts in this two page thread. If you had, you would see I give resources where to find information on the process. You're just lazy and want easy gains without any work. Well guess what, it is a lot of work.
I suggest you stick to you manual routine until that does nothing for you, then advance to hanging. This will require a lot of research on your part to properly train manually and using a hanging device. Only after this time, once all those gains are maxed, will you be ready for chem Penis Enlargement.
Sorry, but people like you who just want to jump in without doing any research for yourself or even bothering use the search button or to read the many threads on the topic are the type of people that are going to fuck themselves up with the chemicals and ruin it for the rest of us.
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Thanks Dad what would I do without you and your suggestions! I'll go to my room now.. 
houseofr00bees;519643 said:Thanks Dad what would I do without you and your suggestions! I'll go to my room now..
Search through all pages of my progress thread. Read all the articles, all the links, all the Q&A, all the advice, all the suggestions. Then do the same with kingsnake's thread. Then you will have an in depth understanding of Penis Enlargement theory and you will be ready to do it properly.
What's the difference between PG1 and TB4?
Anyone know where to buy this ?
Because I've been seeing it since kingsnake started talking about PGE1. He posts pictures of his huge black cock, and all the nubs here are in awe and start posting questions that have been answered a hundred times. They keep clogging up threads asking the same questions and don't bother to read a couple pages. They are just lazy, looking for a quick fix. They don't realize that kingsnake started at 8"NBPL and gained 1.5" with hanging. They just see his penis, which by the way has no length gained through chemPenis Enlargement, and think "hey my dick can get big from sticking a needle in it and doing nothing! I think I'll ask questions that are answered in 4 other people's threads on this forum and not bother doing any research for myself!".
It offends me because since I started Penis Enlargement, I have been researching the shit out of it, staying on the cutting edge. I've been to a urologist, and I tracked down a doctor who deals with PGE1 injections for ED and enlargement. I've researched manuals, I've researched anatomy of the penis, I've researched hormones and growth, I've researched, bought and used devices. Every day I ask questions that I can't find the answers to. I document all of my findings in my progress thread. I help men all the time who are starting out, write them up a page full of my findings over 1 year of constant dedication, which gives them all the resources to start researching for themselves, all the leads, all the links. I have probably close to 100 pages involving Penis Enlargement in some way bookmarked on my browser, organized in a folder marked Penis Enlargement. I have a binder of printed pages regarding Penis Enlargement, the most important theories and exercises, organized chronologically in the order they should be followed.
Why can't he scroll back a few pages on kingsnake's thread to find his answers? King posts huge Q&A responses and articles detailing his findings. With pictures and links. As do I. As did Peter South. As did Mistake. Yet these newcomers who probably haven't even taken the time to figure out all the basics of manual and device work come into the threads demanding information because they see kingsnakes huge cock picture out of context. He's gained 1.5" in lenght, through hanging. He has only started Chem Penis Enlargement since July. They aren't even in the right thread if you ask me, if they are worried about results from chemPenis Enlargement. Maybe they should use the search button and type PGE1 and will find Petersouth's thread, which is named something obvious like "my experiment with caverject (PGE1)". He has gained over an inch using PGE1 and DLD hardcore stretches with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words].
I don't want to tell these guys where to get PGE1 because they lack the patience and discipline required to use a chemical that can potentially give you a priapism and make the tissues in your penis die. Then they will go to the hospital, the doctors will ask where they got the stuff, they will tell them, and the source is ruined for the rest of us. He's been a member since Aug 2012 and he wants to start chemPenis Enlargement? Can't even bother to use the search bar, google, kingsnake's previous pages on his thread - the very thread that answers the questions he is asking on later pages of said thread.
Kingsnake is doing good work to the few of us who are actually in this the right way to get a big penis. Unfortunately, he also has started a trend for would-be Penis Enlargementers, who would rather ask vague questions ("where can I get chempe???!?!") than take the time to research it. If they aren't even going to take the time to look on their own for it, you think they're going to take the time to research the proper injection protocol, the risks involved, the abort techniques for overdose etc.? I think not.
That warrants my conclusion.
It offends me because since I started Penis Enlargement, I have been researching the shit out of it, staying on the cutting edge. I've been to a urologist, and I tracked down a doctor who deals with PGE1 injections for ED and enlargement. I've researched manuals, I've researched anatomy of the penis, I've researched hormones and growth, I've researched, bought and used devices. Every day I ask questions that I can't find the answers to. I document all of my findings in my progress thread. I help men all the time who are starting out, write them up a page full of my findings over 1 year of constant dedication, which gives them all the resources to start researching for themselves, all the leads, all the links. I have probably close to 100 pages involving Penis Enlargement in some way bookmarked on my browser, organized in a folder marked Penis Enlargement. I have a binder of printed pages regarding Penis Enlargement, the most important theories and exercises, organized chronologically in the order they should be followed.
Why can't he scroll back a few pages on kingsnake's thread to find his answers? King posts huge Q&A responses and articles detailing his findings. With pictures and links. As do I. As did Peter South. As did Mistake. Yet these newcomers who probably haven't even taken the time to figure out all the basics of manual and device work come into the threads demanding information because they see kingsnakes huge cock picture out of context. He's gained 1.5" in lenght, through hanging. He has only started Chem Penis Enlargement since July. They aren't even in the right thread if you ask me, if they are worried about results from chemPenis Enlargement. Maybe they should use the search button and type PGE1 and will find Petersouth's thread, which is named something obvious like "my experiment with caverject (PGE1)". He has gained over an inch using PGE1 and DLD hardcore stretches with [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words].
I don't want to tell these guys where to get PGE1 because they lack the patience and discipline required to use a chemical that can potentially give you a priapism and make the tissues in your penis die. Then they will go to the hospital, the doctors will ask where they got the stuff, they will tell them, and the source is ruined for the rest of us. He's been a member since Aug 2012 and he wants to start chemPenis Enlargement? Can't even bother to use the search bar, google, kingsnake's previous pages on his thread - the very thread that answers the questions he is asking on later pages of said thread.
Kingsnake is doing good work to the few of us who are actually in this the right way to get a big penis. Unfortunately, he also has started a trend for would-be Penis Enlargementers, who would rather ask vague questions ("where can I get chempe???!?!") than take the time to research it. If they aren't even going to take the time to look on their own for it, you think they're going to take the time to research the proper injection protocol, the risks involved, the abort techniques for overdose etc.? I think not.
That warrants my conclusion.
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MikeShlort;519769 said:
I'm with Mike all the way on this one. I have no thoughts on doing Chem Penis Enlargement possibly ever but I read through these threads because of the cutting edge theories and because there is so much in detailed information about anatomy and chemistry behind penis enlargement that can even be used by someone like me who only does hanging, manual stretching, and manual girth work. There are plenty of questions on advanced threads that are warranted but the majority of these posts that I see could be answered with 10 minutes or research or less. Nobody wants this forum to turn into the other Penis Enlargement forums that are just absolute dictatorships run by asshole moderators but the constant and complete lack of respect from newcomers concerning advanced Penis Enlargement is getting old very quickly, especially when so many advanced Penis Enlargement'ers go out of their way to post sticky threads in literally every section of the forum concerning the groundwork, basic information on almost all Penis Enlargement concepts.
I haven't been on this forum very long either... only since July 2012, but I think my gains and my consistency in my progress thread put me a few steps forward than these guys who are totally green and never see gains. I had to unsubscribe to one of Kingsnakes' threads where he posted vaults of valuable information because it became a cluster fuck of noobs voicing how butthurt they were over the Snakeman's personal stories because their own lack of sex lives.
Tahir Aqbar;519776 said:
I'm guilt of this offense. I jump at any chance to badmouth the cocksluts
MikeShlort;519769 said:
Do you always sound like you have stick up your ass when you speak? or is it just here on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]?
You speak as if you think you are the only one who researches information. And I would hope that someone with as much "experience" as you have allegedly acquired through your extensive research would be a little more humble to us newcomers. If anything you are the one clogging this shit up with your fucking book long posts on everything you've done da da da... spare me asshole.
houseofr00bees;520043 said:
Lol. Nah. Mike keeps his dick up his ass. It's one of his Penis Enlargement stretches. You'd know if you checked out his log.
houseofr00bees;520043 said:
I don't see how I could be clogging up anything by telling people the information I learned and how I learned it. I would think someone with a bit of sense would take it into consideration.
Not worth it brother. It is best to do PE naturally.