Hello All. I'm new to the forum. Recently, I had made an appointment with Dr. Rosenthal in California to have the penis lengthening surgery (cutting of the suspensory ligament) done. But after reading so much information in this forum, I don't think I am going to go through with it. I just finished purchasing the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Sizegenetics[/words] and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X30[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hydromax[/words]. Im 42yrs old and that is another reason I was going to have the surgery done...mid-life crisis LOL! My question is for the veterans who are reading...do you believe gains can be made with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words], [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hydromax[/words], and kegels only (no newbie stretches or jelqs). I probably will do SOME stretches though...definitely stretches with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hydromax[/words] on. Thoughts? And also...like I said, I don't think I'm going to go through with the surgery, but does anyone think that having the surgery will quicken gains if I use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X30[/words] after surgery (once healed) or will it slow gains? Sorry, multiple questions but all opinions/tips are welcomed. Oh yeah...I'm 5 inches erect (measured from base to tip) and about 4 to 4 and a half inches circumference in girth.
 
Why not do stretches? They bring about the easiest gains. If you would have got the surgery, all they would have done is cut the ligs and handed you something like the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] to use, so basically, you're doing the same thing and saving $5000 lol.
 
dmoney101;604976 said:
Why not do stretches? They bring about the easiest gains. If you would have got the surgery, all they would have done is cut the ligs and handed you something like the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] to use, so basically, you're doing the same thing and saving $5000 lol.


That is the realization I'm coming to Dmoney. I'm slowly changing my mind about the surgery. I guess my logic was if the ligament gets cut, it will quicken gains versus just stretching a healthy ligament. But what stays in my mind are the risks...and what if cutting the ligament actually hampers using [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words]. More and more, I'm leaning more toward just keeping it natural and not getting the surgery. This forum really gives me...and from what I can see, OTHERS hope! BTW, I ordered my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X30[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hydromax[/words] the other day so I haven't yet dove into natural PE yet...just kegels here n there. I know if I want gains, I need to be more diligent though. If you don't mind me asking, what did you start off with, what were your gains, and how long did it take you?
 
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I have made insane girth gains from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] and erect stretching only. I started with 4.5 girth earlier this year and now it's 6. I do two 15 min sessions a day one in the morning and one at night. I just upgraded from the Herculese to the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] and I love it :)
 
dsupreeem1;604979 said:
That is the realization I'm coming to Dmoney. I'm slowly changing my mind about the surgery. I guess my logic was if the ligament gets cut, it will quicken gains versus just stretching a healthy ligament. But what stays in my mind are the risks...and what if cutting the ligament actually hampers using [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words]. More and more, I'm leaning more toward just keeping it natural and not getting the surgery. This forum really gives me...and from what I can see, OTHERS hope! BTW, I ordered my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X30[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hydromax[/words] the other day so I haven't yet dove into natural PE yet...just kegels here n there. I know if I want gains, I need to be more diligent though. If you don't mind me asking, what did you start off with, what were your gains, and how long did it take you?
The [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words], and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] are definitely powerful tools and will pretty much give you gains by themselves but I still like to stretch and jelq randomly throughout the day to help increase gains. After a while stretching becomes almost like a compulsion. I just grab the head of my dick and pull in all kinds of directions- up, down, left, right, rotary, up with the web of hand holding base down, down with base in ok grip, behind each cheek... etc. After a shower is a great time to stretch because the skin tends to be dryer (you could also use baby powder) and when going to the bathroom because your dick is already out. Jelqing while masturbating to adult entertainment is a good way to work in some jelqing, along with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] shower sessions. Hope this helps.
 
do [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]srt[/words] bro do not pay for surgery
 
jacob5414;604993 said:
do [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]srt[/words] bro do not pay for surgery

This is the truth. In any given surgery the results in size gain are usually between .25 inch to .5" in length. After the surgery the doctor will send you home with a tool of some sort like the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] and from here is where you make the gains. The surgery costs upwards of $5000 and the risks are high for injury and permanent erectile disfunction. It is hardly worth the risk or the money when we see men using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] routine and making much greater gains with absolutely no risk. And for a fraction of the cost you can own all the great equipment that is available today to make the gaining even faster. Give PE a chance and you will see just how powerful it is.
 
Acromegaly, TB007, Jacob 5414, and DLD, THANKS for the advice. I'm pretty certain now I won't be getting the surgery. LOL, I already bought the ticket to go out to California, and made the hotel reservation...so I might as well just make it a vacation. Just chill in the hotel, do my stretches, kegels, some jelqs, and get use to my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X30[/words]. I should be getting both of them sometimes next week :). Another quick question if you guys are still monitoring this post...whats the biggest gain (in length) you've heard someone make within 6 months?
 
2 inches dld did it , and ive read inch in 7 weeks , dld did manual 2x day from what i read , i got .25 girth in less then a month so in 6 you can get so much growth brother stay committed and if you have the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] /bathmate the process will go by way quicker [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]srt[/words] all the way bro
 
its possible dont listen to negativtty stay committed to yourself and what you want we are all human beings the thing that sets us apart is the way we think
 
dsupreeem1;605067 said:
Acromegaly, TB007, Jacob 5414, and DLD, THANKS for the advice. I'm pretty certain now I won't be getting the surgery. LOL, I already bought the ticket to go out to California, and made the hotel reservation...so I might as well just make it a vacation. Just chill in the hotel, do my stretches, kegels, some jelqs, and get use to my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X30[/words]. I should be getting both of them sometimes next week :). Another quick question if you guys are still monitoring this post...whats the biggest gain (in length) you've heard someone make within 6 months?

I gained 2 inches in my first 6 months and this was a record gain at the time. Since then others have done this and even better. I am happy you have changed your mind and the vacation sounds like a great time to get your head in order to start a fruitful journey in natural PE. I promise you it will be the best decision you have ever made.
 
Yeah snipping the ligs WOULD help, but the cons far outweigh the pros. You can get all the best equipment for less than $500, grow more than you probably would have with the surgery, and spend the money left over on a vacation haha
 
Dmoney, most definitely will save the money for a vacation in the future...and hopefully will have a bigger DICK then :) lol. If you don't mind me asking, what gains have you made...where did you start, where are you now, and how long did it take you? Was it just with stretches, jelqs, and kegels?
 
DLD, I'm happy I changed my mind too. I'd ultimately like to get to 9 inches (I'm 5 now) but 7 to 8 would be so awesome. My biggest fantasy is to have a chick say 'OMG you're so deep'. I might cum as soon as she says it, but at least I heard it come out of her mouth! LOL!
 
dsupreeem1;605115 said:
DLD, I'm happy I changed my mind too. I'd ultimately like to get to 9 inches (I'm 5 now) but 7 to 8 would be so awesome. My biggest fantasy is to have a chick say 'OMG you're so deep'. I might cum as soon as she says it, but at least I heard it come out of her mouth! LOL!
Just fuck chicks with smaller pussies lol PE doesn't hurt either
 
You want advice? Two things;
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]Lengthmaster[/words] & [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words]!!!!!!!!!!!
On the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], buy 2. A [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hercules[/words] & the next size bigger. I say this because the larger size will let you tuck your balls inside & if you enter it straight down no other pump will pull out your inner penis better! I lost my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Goliath[/words] during a move & definitely need to get another :-)
 
Muffbuster, thanks for the advice. I bought the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X-30[/words] (the newer model up from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hercules[/words]). I also bought the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Sizegenetics[/words]. I hate to sound like a wuss, but that [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]Lengthmaster[/words] scares me LOL! I saw a vid with I believe it was Redzulu and it looked like a torture device LOL. Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking anyone that uses it and gets excellent results out of it. But I know me...and I might fuck around and break my dick off in that thing due to not paying attention to what I'm doing LOL. How long have you been PE-ing and what are your gains...when did you start and what is your routine now?
 
how long are you willing to do pe a day manual wise not including the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] , i can see you having a 7 inch dick in 6 months bro
 
btw man i gotta say it takes alot of balls to risk it doing surgery and you were about to do that , with all that manpower will you got use it in pe and you my man with have a huge penis in no time
 
I will say this though...once I get deeper into PE, I probably will buy the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] once my gains start to taper off or stop. Seems like a good tool for going to the next level of stretching.
 
acromegaly;604982 said:
I have made insane girth gains from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] and erect stretching only. I started with 4.5 girth earlier this year and now it's 6. I do two 15 min sessions a day one in the morning and one at night. I just upgraded from the Herculese to the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x40[/words] and I love it :)

DAMN I wish you had pic :(
 
Jacob5414...THANKS BRO! The size of my penis has bothered me since I was a teenager....sh-t, a few years prior to being a teenager actually. I knew early in my youth I was small. And thought I would eventually have a 'growth spurt'. But it never happened. When I went into the military, I was again hit with the realization that I was small when it was shower time. I noticed that I was one of the smallest guys (penis wise, my height is 5'11 though) there...and some of them noticed it too...not that I was ridiculed constantly, but a joke here and there let's you know that they know you're small. I would say I'm a good looking guy, so getting women has never been a problem. But I've never been super confident when having sex. Even if it was not in the back of my mind during sex, I know subconsciously that I've always wondered during sex 'is she really enjoying it, is she faking it'...and yes, I have had a few times when I constantly 'slipped out' of the coochie. I'm 5 inches erect which from what I hear is the low end of 'average'. Well this 'average' shit sucks! I want to one day take my boxers off and the chick has that 'Damn, he's about to fuck the shit out of me with that thing' look on her face! I want to be hitting it from the back and hear her saying or screaming loud expletives! So yeah dude, I'm going to hit this [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X-30[/words] and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Sizegenetics[/words] hard. I'm a newbie so I know I need to pace myself smartly too so I don't injure myself. I'm still reading a lot of stuff in the forum, getting more knowledgeable on techniques. Just reading your earlier post, I need to get a routine due to work so not sure how much of the manual pe (minus [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words]) I can do. I promise to get back to you and the entire forum on what I'm doing and any progress. I do believe most of the manual pe will be in the morning and at night tho!
 
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dsupreeem1;605111 said:
Dmoney, most definitely will save the money for a vacation in the future...and hopefully will have a bigger DICK then :) lol. If you don't mind me asking, what gains have you made...where did you start, where are you now, and how long did it take you? Was it just with stretches, jelqs, and kegels?

I'm not the one to be asking that lol. I've known about it for like 7 years, but never was able to stay consistent for more than 3 months. I could write a book on PE but up until now,
I never practiced what I preach. This go around I'm working harder than ever and have a new feeling of motivation.
 
dsupreeem1;605189 said:
Jacob5414...THANKS BRO! The size of my penis has bothered me since I was a teenager....sh-t, a few years prior to being a teenager actually. I knew early in my youth I was small. And thought I would eventually have a 'growth spurt'. But it never happened. When I went into the military, I was again hit with the realization that I was small when it was shower time. I noticed that I was one of the smallest guys (penis wise, my height is 5'11 though) there...and some of them noticed it too...not that I was ridiculed constantly, but a joke here and there let's you know that they know you're small. I would say I'm a good looking guy, so getting women has never been a problem. But I've never been super confident when having sex. Even if it was not in the back of my mind during sex, I know subconsciously that I've always wondered during sex 'is she really enjoying it, is she faking it'...and yes, I have had a few times when I constantly 'slipped out' of the coochie. I'm 5 inches erect which from what I hear is the low end of 'average'. Well this 'average' shit sucks! I want to one day take my boxers off and the chick has that 'Damn, he's about to fuck the shit out of me with that thing' look on her face! I want to be hitting it from the back and hear her saying or screaming loud expletives! So yeah dude, I'm going to hit this [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X-30[/words] and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Sizegenetics[/words] hard. I'm a newbie so I know I need to pace myself smartly too so I don't injure myself. I'm still reading a lot of stuff in the forum, getting more knowledgeable on techniques. Just reading your earlier post, I need to get a routine due to work so not sure how much of the manual pe (minus [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words]) I can do. I promise to get back to you and the entire forum on what I'm doing and any progress. I do believe most of the manual pe will be in the morning and at night tho!

Men and Boys can be very insensitive and I feel your pain from your past. The good news is those people do not have the opportunity you have. Now that you have found us size really does not matter as you can make yourself as big as you like. Your starting where many men have started so have no fears. You have all the equipment you need to start the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] Routine and this will get you where you want to be very quickly.
 
Hello All. I'm new to the forum. Recently, I had made an appointment with Dr. Rosenthal in California to have the penis lengthening surgery (cutting of the suspensory ligament) done. But after reading so much information in this forum, I don't think I am going to go through with it. I just finished purchasing the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Sizegenetics[/words] and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X30[/words] [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hydromax[/words]. Im 42yrs old and that is another reason I was going to have the surgery done...mid-life crisis LOL! My question is for the veterans who are reading...do you believe gains can be made with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words], [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hydromax[/words], and kegels only (no newbie stretches or jelqs). I probably will do SOME stretches though...definitely stretches with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hydromax[/words] on. Thoughts? And also...like I said, I don't think I'm going to go through with the surgery, but does anyone think that having the surgery will quicken gains if I use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]X30[/words] after surgery (once healed) or will it slow gains? Sorry, multiple questions but all opinions/tips are welcomed. Oh yeah...I'm 5 inches erect (measured from base to tip) and about 4 to 4 and a half inches circumference in girth.

If you can dedicate 2 hours of your time daily to PE you can see length increase of up to 2.5 inches in 1 year and girth increase of 1 inches. Surgery is not worth it at all.

The size genetics extender works perfectly for length but it is very stressful to use. You need something that you can wear discreetly beneath your clothes and it will still give you the needed length gains. That device is called the SiliStretcher.

If I was to be in your shoes, I will buy a length master and a SiliStretcher. Both devices work perfectly for length. If you don't have enough time to wear the SiliStretcher, you can buy only the length master and use it for 1 hour or 40 minutes daily.

The mityvac or the bathmate are both good pumps. If you can see this message and you haven't done the surgery, I suggest you apply for my coaching service let me take you to your dream size.
 
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