is there a need to jelq if i want length?

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you could probably guess that I want length gains haha just wanted to know if I need to jelq if im only interested in length? instead of jelqing I can put more effort and time into stretching. any advice would be much appreciated thanks guys
 
Yes I believe so. The best gains I've made is when I stretched and jelqed. When I took it out because of laziness or for whatever reason my gains slowed.

Jelqs are like the Squats of the PE world.... they are KING!
 
agree. The jelq is just the foundation to build upon, whether you shoot for length, girth or for both. Besides your blood circulation, thus also your EQ and overall penile health improves. For the same reasons there's a considerable synergetic effect to observe as I Strongly believe. In your case I'd put maybe more time into my stretching routing but wouldn't suspend the jelq completely.
 
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Satyr;579291 said:
agree. The jelq is just the foundation to build upon, whether you shoot for length, girth or for both. Besides your blood circulation, thus also your EQ and overall penile health improves. For the same reasons there's a considerable synergetic effect to observe as I Strongly believe. In your case I'd put maybe more time into my stretching routing but wouldn't suspend the jelq completely.
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cool thanks, how often should I jelq and how many jelqs do you think?
 
Since you are doing stretching as well, I would shoot for 10 minutes, maybe 15 max IMO (If you are just starting). I would highly recommend going off total time rather than by number of jelqs. Trust me, counting in your head every single jelq can be a killer to maintaining your EQ. Numbers don't turn me on much, personally. If you want, count one time and see how long it takes you to do the total number of jelqs you're shooting for, then go off of that base time from there on out.

As for how often, do it as often as you can while still staying safe. Easier said than done to find that perfect balance, but just listen to your body as you go. Soreness and severe turtling are indicators you should probably ease up (Although you will have some soreness in the beginning just as you would when you first start working out), and high EQ and morning wood are indicators that you are on the right track and may be able to do slightly more in your next session.

Good luck!
 
AndroidR;579310 said:
Since you are doing stretching as well, I would shoot for 10 minutes, maybe 15 max IMO (If you are just starting). I would highly recommend going off total time rather than by number of jelqs. Trust me, counting in your head every single jelq can be a killer to maintaining your EQ. Numbers don't turn me on much, personally. If you want, count one time and see how long it takes you to do the total number of jelqs you're shooting for, then go off of that base time from there on out.

As for how often, do it as often as you can while still staying safe. Easier said than done to find that perfect balance, but just listen to your body as you go. Soreness and severe turtling are indicators you should probably ease up (Although you will have some soreness in the beginning just as you would when you first start working out), and high EQ and morning wood are indicators that you are on the right track and may be able to do slightly more in your next session.

Good luck!
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thank you, what erection level do I need to be at for length gains
 
Hey length, .. while the other posters are correct that jelqs are a great addition to length gains (pre-fatiguing the tissues for easier remodelling in either direction) they're also a great addition ..obviously.. to girth gains -- and the other posters might not know about your Enormous starting girth .. (of something like 6.5" iirc).

If you want to avoid bigger girth, I'd say be verrrrrry careful with jelquing and probably replace it entirely with heated warmups and massage .. and then do length-only exercises, and do a ton of time afterwards in a stretcher/hanger/ADS of your choice ..

I'd additionally say to be careful of doing length exercises which hit the sides of the base: cranks, BTCs, LazyAss's, etc etc etc ..

I know that takes a ton of items out of the toolbox, but all of them can increase base girth and that translates into some shaft girth.

For the difficult -just- length, you're looking at straight pulls .. from the glans and from the middle, A-bends, hanging .. maybe, (is "L.O.T." still a thing?), and healing time in stretchers/ADS.

$.02

Personally I got 80% or more of my girth gains concomitantly from doing general stuff. The length and girth just always went up at the same time and (minus experimenting with new stuff) neither one was anything I -had- to use separate effort for. Not everyone gets the same mileage, but if you gain girth easily ... well you named yourself Length for a reason.
 
yea, right, I forgot your amazing girth stats. But do you really want to avoi girht gains by any means? Or would another 0,5" be ok? If the latter is the case then I'd do around 15 minutes of jelqing say 4times a week, maybe with 50-80% erection since length is your main target and the risk of fatiguing and low EQ is not as high tehn. But Android is right, when he says that you should listen to your body, though I wouldn't necessarily go for more if you got good EQ and morning wood because that's what you want if you do the jelq just as a complementary exercise for your length oriented routine.
On the other hand: If you do want to avoid girth strictly then listen to Asa.
 
Doesn't doing jelqs at a lower erection give length priority over girth? Jelqs are great for improving EQ so maybe do them at like 60%?
 
Satyr;579326 said:
yea, right, I forgot your amazing girth stats. But do you really want to avoi girht gains by any means? Or would another 0,5" be ok? If the latter is the case then I'd do around 15 minutes of jelqing say 4times a week, maybe with 50-80% erection since length is your main target and the risk of fatiguing and low EQ is not as high tehn. But Android is right, when he says that you should listen to your body, though I wouldn't necessarily go for more if you got good EQ and morning wood because that's what you want if you do the jelq just as a complementary exercise for your length oriented routine.
On the other hand: If you do want to avoid girth strictly then listen to Asa.
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I would be fine with gaining more girth, just as long as I gain length. will I also gain length jelqing you think? thank you so much for your advice.
 
Asanon;579322 said:
Hey length, .. while the other posters are correct that jelqs are a great addition to length gains (pre-fatiguing the tissues for easier remodelling in either direction) they're also a great addition ..obviously.. to girth gains -- and the other posters might not know about your Enormous starting girth .. (of something like 6.5" iirc).

If you want to avoid bigger girth, I'd say be verrrrrry careful with jelquing and probably replace it entirely with heated warmups and massage .. and then do length-only exercises, and do a ton of time afterwards in a stretcher/hanger/ADS of your choice ..

I'd additionally say to be careful of doing length exercises which hit the sides of the base: cranks, BTCs, LazyAss's, etc etc etc ..

I know that takes a ton of items out of the toolbox, but all of them can increase base girth and that translates into some shaft girth.

For the difficult -just- length, you're looking at straight pulls .. from the glans and from the middle, A-bends, hanging .. maybe, (is "L.O.T." still a thing?), and healing time in stretchers/ADS.

$.02

Personally I got 80% or more of my girth gains concomitantly from doing general stuff. The length and girth just always went up at the same time and (minus experimenting with new stuff) neither one was anything I -had- to use separate effort for. Not everyone gets the same mileage, but if you gain girth easily ... well you named yourself Length for a reason.
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do you think that I would still make length gains if I did a lot of BTC stretches and jelqing and pumping however? or does jelqing and pumping make it harder to gain length?
 
The jelq is the first exercise that most men use to increase the size of their penis but it's easy to get it wrong and many men overdo it." by Aaron Kemmer

Jelqing is the basic foundation of PE that doesn't require any equipment to perform and should be a primary exercise in your PE training regime throughout your entire PE career. The Basic principle to PE gains is "Plasticity"
 
length;579347 said:
I would be fine with gaining more girth, just as long as I gain length. will I also gain length jelqing you think? thank you so much for your advice.
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I am pretty sure it does, yes. In fact when I didn't do anything for length for the first 9 months of my PE career besides 3 weeks of stretching (then I suspended due to time issues and two irritated veins) I still gained around 0,4" in length just because of the jelq. And I'm not the only one who gained length from Jelqs. Especially when you perform it with - say - 50-70 or 80% erection, it equals some kind of a constricted stretch which is a very beneficial complement to the other stretching exercises. Also like I and others said it's good for keeping the blood flow high which always is a prerequisite for successful PEing and porvides good EQ.

I'm not sure about the pumping, though. Never did it, but form what I've heard you can gain length doing hardcore stretches. But Idk if pumping is generally necessary in this case or may be even contra-indicated. BTC stretches on the other hand are a very good option to gain length. I wouldn't miss them if I were you. Base girth might come with it (as well as with every other downward stretch) but they are just to effective to pass them, especially if you have no problem with gaining a bit girth, too
 
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Satyr;579367 said:
I am pretty sure it does, yes. In fact when I didn't do anything for length for the first 9 months of my PE career besides 3 weeks of stretching (then I suspended due to time issues and two irritated veins) I still gained around 0,4" in length just because of the jelq. And I'm not the only one who gained length from Jelqs. Especially when you perform it with - say - 50-70 or 80% erection, it equals some kind of a constricted stretch which is a very beneficial complement to the other stretching exercises. Also like I and others said it's good for keeping the blood flow high which always is a prerequisite for successful PEing and porvides good EQ.

I'm not sure about the pumping, though. Never did it, but form what I've heard you can gain length doing hardcore stretches. But Idk if pumping is generally necessary in this case or may be even contra-indicated. BTC stretches on the other hand are a very good option to gain length. I wouldn't miss them if I were you. Base girth might come with it (as well as with every other downward stretch) but they are just to effective to pass them, especially if you have no problem with gaining a bit girth, too
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I really hope I can gain man, thanks for your advice. do you think that I can still gain length without wearing an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] or some sort of anti-turtling equipment? ie [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] or [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words]. is stretching and jelqing morning and night enough?
 
Everyone has different individual predispositions to work with. There are guys who gain length easily but have difficulties getting girth et vice versa. If you are one of the latter, these tools might be a reasonable option. If you're gaining well without them it might be better to bring em in when you begin to stall. I can't say for sure since I don't have any experience with [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]-strategies because I've never used technical devices like that. All I gained is the result of pure manual work. But there are a lot of guys here that can answer these questions way better than me. Hopefully they'll chime in later.

Edit: Stretching and Jelqing AM and PM each? That would be too much. You can stretch every day, maybe even twice a day if you want, though I think it would be better to do for instance one session of say 60 minutes than two sessions of 30 because you can profit more efficiently from fatigued ligs that way.
A suggestion for a Jelqing routine would be 4 or 5 days a week for 20 minutes or so, you don't need to overdo it with the Jelq.
 
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Satyr;579372 said:
Everyone has different individual predispositions to work with. There are guys who gain length easily but have difficulties getting girth et vice versa. If you are one of the latter, these tools might be a reasonable option. If you're gaining well without them it might be better to bring em in when you begin to stall. I can't say for sure since I don't have any experience with [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]-strategies because I've never used technical devices like that. All I gained is the result of pure manual work. But there are a lot of guys here that can answer these questions way better than me. Hopefully they'll chime in later.

Edit: Stretching and Jelqing AM and PM each? That would be too much. You can stretch every day, maybe even twice a day if you want, though I think it would be better to do for instance one session of say 60 minutes than two sessions of 30 because you can profit more efficiently from fatigued ligs that way.
A suggestion for a Jelqing routine would be 4 or 5 days a week for 20 minutes or so, you don't need to overdo it with the Jelq.
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only jelq once a day now for 20 mins, what manual routine did you use? how much did you gain? and how long did it take?
 
Satyr;579372 said:
Everyone has different individual predispositions to work with. There are guys who gain length easily but have difficulties getting girth et vice versa. If you are one of the latter, these tools might be a reasonable option. If you're gaining well without them it might be better to bring em in when you begin to stall. I can't say for sure since I don't have any experience with [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]-strategies because I've never used technical devices like that. All I gained is the result of pure manual work. But there are a lot of guys here that can answer these questions way better than me. Hopefully they'll chime in later.

Edit: Stretching and Jelqing AM and PM each? That would be too much. You can stretch every day, maybe even twice a day if you want, though I think it would be better to do for instance one session of say 60 minutes than two sessions of 30 because you can profit more efficiently from fatigued ligs that way.
A suggestion for a Jelqing routine would be 4 or 5 days a week for 20 minutes or so, you don't need to overdo it with the Jelq.
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only jelq once a day now for 20 mins, what manual routine did you use? how much did you gain? and how long did it take?
 
length said:
you could probably guess that I want length gains haha just wanted to know if I need to jelq if im only interested in length? instead of jelqing I can put more effort and time into stretching. any advice would be much appreciated thanks guys
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Have a solid length master routine or Silistrecher routine. Compliment it with daily 20 minutes of jelq.
 
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