I was wondering if anyone has been in a similar situation. I've had the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] since Feb of this year. I've been consistent with using it and I've done various routines from DLDs routne to Dan's routine involving supersets. I am siked because I measure in the mornings and I haven't pumped since the night before. I notice I am .250 inches thicker so I think I am gaining. Well I took two days off, did no work. Now I am back down to where I started in Feb. EQ seemed to be fine too. Not sure what I am doing wrong, whether I am relying on the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] too much for girth gains or what, but needless to say I am a bit discouraged. Is or has anyone experienced this issue? My routine for the past couple of months has been Dans routine. Super set 6 sets of 6 with a minute rest, and do this 1 to 4 times per day. Then jelq 10 min after....also kegel on the 4th to 6 sets of each. To be honest I haven't done the jelqing as I should've been so maybe that's it? Any suggestions or help is much appreciated.
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I would say: Be sure you get that jelqing in after each session tcssmos. I don't know for a fact how much it contributes, but I suspect a LOT. I did an average of about 30 minutes a day of hard, power jelqing through those first three months. I'm actually averaging more time jelqing than that now. I think its just vital.
You may also consider combining the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. I feel that combo will turn out to give better overall gains for most people. There are a few people that respond unusually quickly like me, but not very many from what I've noticed. Keep experimenting and you will come up with a routine that works for you. It may require frequent tweaking, but you'll get it to work. I've discovered some new things (for me) just in the last week that I will post about today. I'm not sure what is going on, but my body has changed and its not acting the same as it used to. I feel that so much of the ability to keep making progress is tied up in really paying attention to the little things that change and then tweaking your routine to reflect that knowledge.
Dan
You may also consider combining the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. I feel that combo will turn out to give better overall gains for most people. There are a few people that respond unusually quickly like me, but not very many from what I've noticed. Keep experimenting and you will come up with a routine that works for you. It may require frequent tweaking, but you'll get it to work. I've discovered some new things (for me) just in the last week that I will post about today. I'm not sure what is going on, but my body has changed and its not acting the same as it used to. I feel that so much of the ability to keep making progress is tied up in really paying attention to the little things that change and then tweaking your routine to reflect that knowledge.
Dan
Just to share a little bit of my experience with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words], I have been using it for approximately 2 weeks now, I have owned it for 3 weeks (had to take a week off not by my choice but due to family obligations etc and a bit of travel)... before I left for all the other stuff in my life I noticed that I was not getting any FR or nothing from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and to be honest this was frustrating the holy hell out of me, because I have seen other posts from other guys where they try it for the first few days and they already have great expansion etc... (ok maybe not a few days but you get idea).
So fast forward to last few days of last week and beginning of this week, yesterday I noticed that I was actually getting FR! Which made me say to myself... wow! I like seeing my penis plumped up. This shows me that the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] is doing something.
I also took the next step in my routine to add it the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Size Genetics[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words]. The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] is great and I feel for some at least for me and this is only my opinion, I think the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] will help with my girth more than length at this time, so adding in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] should give me the gains in length that I am hopefully looking for.
I know these are no gains yet, but I think if I can keep my attitude positive and just keep at it... something has to happen. I have also been jelqing like crazy after each session in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and I did the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] about 3 times yesterday for about 30 minutes a session or so. I'm not going to lie, this is going to be a long road sometimes even longer.
Just like Dan said above some people respond rather quickly like himself and then there are other people like you and me where it just will take some time and dedication with a bit of perseverance. Put the time in, get the results.
So fast forward to last few days of last week and beginning of this week, yesterday I noticed that I was actually getting FR! Which made me say to myself... wow! I like seeing my penis plumped up. This shows me that the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] is doing something.
I also took the next step in my routine to add it the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Size Genetics[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Extender[/words]. The [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] is great and I feel for some at least for me and this is only my opinion, I think the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] will help with my girth more than length at this time, so adding in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] should give me the gains in length that I am hopefully looking for.
I know these are no gains yet, but I think if I can keep my attitude positive and just keep at it... something has to happen. I have also been jelqing like crazy after each session in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and I did the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] about 3 times yesterday for about 30 minutes a session or so. I'm not going to lie, this is going to be a long road sometimes even longer.
Just like Dan said above some people respond rather quickly like himself and then there are other people like you and me where it just will take some time and dedication with a bit of perseverance. Put the time in, get the results.
REDZULU2003
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Are you erect inside the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]? try to keep erect or at least semi erect throughout the entire session, this does help. After a session include some manual girth work for 10-20 minutes or so such as squish squash jelqs (SSJ) wet jelqs, clamping or horses.
tcssmos, Red gave some great advice. It reminds me of a football coach who has just seen his team wiped out by the apposing team. You name it, they did NOT do it right: poor blocking, poor tackling, poor execution all the way around. What does the coach do? He gets back to the basics. He goes through the basic steps of blocking, tackling, play formation. The manual exercises are the basics. Do some study on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] of the basic stuff that is proven to work and then build off of that with things like the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words], hanging, [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] devices, etc. You will find things that work for you, it just becomes a matter of just how determined are you?
Dan
Dan
Great advice everyone, and thank you for taking the time to respond. If I really look closely at my routine I think it is going to show that I've been relying on the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] soley for gains. Jelqing Id say averaged about 3 mins a day.....which isn't going to cut it. I think its been said multiple times that the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] is a great tool, but not to be used soley for perm gains-I think I've been doing just that. Its also apparent that mostly everyone on the forum who has gained have incorporated other methods, manual, [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words],etc. As I said before, thanks for all of the feedback and Ill start using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] more as a tool vs. the primary method for gains.
You're welcome tcssmos! To me, you are on the right track here.
Dan
Dan
Combining manual work with equipment work is best and fastest to making gains. It sounds like you have all the components and only need to turn up the intensity a bit. Everyone gains if they do Penis Enlargement, if they are not gaining there is an issue with one of the following, not intense enough exercises, not long enough routine, poor or negative attitude towards the work. With some minor adjustments to your routine you should do wonderful.
Dld...thanks very much for ur input. I definitely think I've relied far too much on the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] vs. the combination of manaul work. I did try ur workout but didn't give it enough time. And it could be that for me personally, a few months may not be enough time to see gains...who knows. Definitely not giving up. Going to modify until I get the results I want. Adding more manual excercises, possible some light clamping.Thans again.
unfortunately i haven't seen any perminant gains from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] or the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] produces great temporary gains which last a few hours, and the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] has yielded none.
I would suggest to keep doing the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] thing....start slow. Do 5 min with 100 jelqs. Do that 3 times a day for a few weeks. Don't jump into the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]ssj[/words] cause it will cause massive penis fatigue....it will be sore as hell and you will give up. You will probably end up with massive fluid retention and have to stop anyways. Start slow and work your way up to the major workouts.
This is just my experience and is not what everyone sees. You might be different but you have to find the limit and push it every session. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]Ssj[/words] are serious! They are the hardest girth work you can do IMO so work up to them. They are not a good workout to start with
This is just my experience and is not what everyone sees. You might be different but you have to find the limit and push it every session. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]Ssj[/words] are serious! They are the hardest girth work you can do IMO so work up to them. They are not a good workout to start with
Ok then punk....your 100% right and nothing anyone says here can change your mind. You have stated your point and everyone knows it. So if you know it wont work and its absurd then you should move on. No one here wants to hear you say the exact same thing in every post.
Thank you and have a nice day
Thank you and have a nice day
orlandopunk;439938 said:
My response to this is that I am just 1 member of many my friend. This guy Dan seems to have great results from his experiences with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]. Others claim to have gained much as well. Maybe how you feel about it is what it breaks down to. Maybe some people have great genetics. They can eat whatever they want and dont gain a pound. Get old, no wrinkles, no balding. Maybe genetically, some people can just add dick girth/length easier then others. Regardless, i have only been using both products for 4months. I will give myself another year or so and if i have NOTHING. Not a half an inch etc etc, then ill probably just put it on the back burner. But 4months isn't THAT long (thats how long ive been practicing). It hurts and its annoying as fuck when you waste your days practicing Penis Enlargement with no results. Miss out on possible memories and good times because your sitting at home focusing on your dick instead of being out with your friends or chasing skirts. But if it does work, then i think i'd be happier in my life. So im gonna continue with what im doing. If it works, ill be fucking psyched. If it doesn't, at least i'll know....I gave it my all.
Also, Many people on this thread suggest jelqing after using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]....i jelq before hand. I have been doing 600+jelq's before entering the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]. Do you guys recommend jelqing afterwards instead? Am i getting the same end result? etc etc etc
orlandopunk;439948 said:
Well to each his own. Ima keep going, and keep speaking the truth. If i gain ill be sure to state it, and vise versa. I have to at least try.
orlandopunk;439948 said:
See the thing is, I don't recall anyone stating that the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] alone produced permenant gains. As a matter of fact, I haven't seen anyone post gains just from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]. Its used in conjunction with manual work, not as the sole tool for girth gains. Most of the people who have gained have put in countless hours and hardwork. I havemt put in near the time these guys have. So really and truly I don't think anyone here is relying solelyh on the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] for girth gains, but merely to enhance the chances of gaining. I personally made the mistake of relying heavily on the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] for gains....which is agreed that the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] in conjuction with other excercise provides a much better opportunity for gains...doesn't gaurantee them....just provides a better chance.
I always appreciate feedback, and who knows, maybe you are right. But I certainly don't have the right to say it doesn't work when I've given a quarter of the time to it that these guys have. For me its about enchacement,not my life's passion. So if it doesn't work out for me then no worries...for those it did great. My starting stats are fine, 7.625 to 7.750 bpel and 5.375 to 5.5 eg mid shaft, which is OK for me. Ill change the routine and keep going until Ill reach my goal....or come to the conclusion that it may not work out for me- but I have to give it more than a 5 month half ass effort.
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The first month I used the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and gained .25" in eg. I did nothing else but 20 of [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] at max pressure everyday. No manual work or anything else. Just [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]. So the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] alone does work. However, as your body gets used to it, gains will be harder to come by unless you change your routine somehow. I'm about to finish my fourth month with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and I've gained almost .5" in girth since I started using it. I did add manual work after the second month though. I've been doing pe since 2008. I started with a fast size [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. Which alone got me .25" in eg. Back then I knew nothing about manual work. I've only started being consistent with pe this year. Before it was on and off. ALL of my gains have been permanent. I went all of 2010 without doing pe and I didn't lose the .25" eg that I got from the fs or the length. But maybe that's just me.
Orlandopunk.
Starting Stats:
BPenis EnlargementL: 152mm / 6"
EG: 146mm /5.75"
June 2011
Long Term Target:
BPenis EnlargementL: 177mm / 7"
EG: 158mm / 6.25"
These are your stats now ..? these are always going to be your stats, you know why..? because you are an idiot, the only thing you can be bothered to do is bitch everything on here, instead of grabbing hold of your cock and actually trying to see if things work..!!
You must think there is a magic source that will fly down and make yours bigger, without you doing nothing..!!
Get off your lazy ass and Penis Enlargement, don't be a Bitch..!!
Starting Stats:
BPenis EnlargementL: 152mm / 6"
EG: 146mm /5.75"
June 2011
Long Term Target:
BPenis EnlargementL: 177mm / 7"
EG: 158mm / 6.25"
These are your stats now ..? these are always going to be your stats, you know why..? because you are an idiot, the only thing you can be bothered to do is bitch everything on here, instead of grabbing hold of your cock and actually trying to see if things work..!!
You must think there is a magic source that will fly down and make yours bigger, without you doing nothing..!!
Get off your lazy ass and Penis Enlargement, don't be a Bitch..!!
orlandopunk;439992 said:
So you are saying the people who have gained using equipment are telling lies? You may get flamed for this! I personally have gained with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] and it is a permanent gain (ie: no pe for 4 weeks and the gain is still present). So I guess I have lied along with the countless others?
Turnover;440221 said:
Are you up 2 the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X-40[/words]?
Turnover;440221 said:
Turnover, when you say longer time sessions for how long? What is your routine? I've been using Dan's routine which is 6 sets of 6 minutes each, 1-4 times per day. Max I've ever done is two sessions. That's about 1 hour and 12 minutes in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]. Really and truly I should say I've half assed Dan's routine. Dan's put it 3 times the amount of time that I have. As I'd stated before I haven't done anything else really, some jelqing here and there.
What has worked for you over the past 14 months?
I agree that either intensity or time needs to be increased. I just finished month 4 and the gains have been slow inthe past two months. For month five I'm gonna try 35 minute sessions. 20 isn't enough anymore. I've gone 60 minutes before at low pressure but I think 35 minutes at max pressure gets the same expansion with less fr. Change can be a good thing.
REDZULU2003
Well-known member
Try adding clamped edging, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]'s, horse squeezes in a separate session hours after the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] one has ended. Another idea is do a 5-10 minute clamped session right after the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] in the bath or shower, wherever you do it. Maintain a good erection in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words], keep arousal thoughts and kegel the blood in.
Sometimes, when things seem to be stagnant, it is a good idea to mix up things and shock the penis into growth. For me, I will create a super-set routine, combining 2 or more exercises to create an extremely intense, completely different routine to scare my penis into growth. Change and shock routines usually only need to be done to get through the plateau and a normal routine can be introduced then.
Clamping after a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] session is good! Its hard to get 100% erect but if you use 2 clamps wow. Its easy to do and its pretty intense girth work. Sometimes when I have alot of fr I can't clamp cause it feels like my penis is going to explode
Thanks to everyone for all the suggestions. I am going to give the clamping a shot after the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] session. Also I am going to do some basic manual work, jelqing and some squeezes. I think SSJs are great but when I gvet to the sqaush part of the process I literally go flaccid in about 15-30 sec, so not sure it effective in a semi erect flaccid state.
DLD, I have a question for you about Jelqing. How important or effective is Jelqing in the Penis Enlargement process? Also whe Jelqing, is it important to be in a semi erect to erect state? When I come out of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words] trying to obtain an erection is difficult, adult entertainment and all, dueto fatigue. If right after a pump session I jelq, but I am not semi erect but have just pumped will it have any effect-or do I have to be semi?doublelongdaddy;440385 said:
Sorry for off topic, but is that post of orlandopunk removed? If it is: why? I mean, I don't agree with him, but he didn't insult anyone I think. It's his opinion. Don't make this a censored website. There are two sides to every story. I think I do believe in Penis Enlargement, but am trying to convince myself otherwise (subconscious).
Well good luck gaining everyone.
Well good luck gaining everyone.
doublelongdaddy;440639 said:
Ooh, okay. If he's just screwing around, then I guess this is not the place for him.
REDZULU2003
Well-known member
The guy had a motive much deeper than being sceptical of penis enlargement in general, it was one of the hencHydromaxen of the past that keeps popping up here now and again to start shit and they just get sent down the sewers for treatment work