Hanging routine

M3721 · Sep 30, 2005

hey guys i have just started hanging and i love it...

i am doing BTC i believe with 5 lbs for 2-5 sets a day.. depending on time constraints (20 mins sets)....

A questions for bib seeing how you hung nearly all day... how much do you think is nessasary? and would i see gains doing what i am doing??

i tend to feel a dull ever so subtle ache in the ligs at the pubic bones... after the first set or so...

for now i am just looking for gains... ANYTHING...

Bib · Oct 3, 2005

M3721,

>i am doing BTC i believe with 5 lbs for 2-5 sets a day.. depending on time constraints (20 mins sets)....

A questions for bib seeing how you hung nearly all day... how much do you think is nessasary? and would i see gains doing what i am doing??<

It is possible to gain at the time and weight you are using. But do not expect to. At this point, you do not know the amount of stress your tissues require to deform. The key is to move up in time, number of sets, until you are hanging for the amount of available privacy time. Stay at five lbs while you do this. Then, you can begin to move up in weight, 1-2 lbs per week, until you begin to reach fatigue within the first set or two. Then, after reaching fatigue, you can reduce the weight as needed to remain comfortable.

>i tend to feel a dull ever so subtle ache in the ligs at the pubic bones... after the first set or so... <

Sounds like you are in the beginning stages of fatigue. It should become more pronounced.

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M3721 · Oct 3, 2005

how much time do you need to spend to gain??

M3721 · Oct 3, 2005

sorry another few questions.... as not to be discouraged... if i were to do a month of hanging with say 7.5 lbs slightly above BTC... (i find this a VERY uncofrtable postion to sit in.. maybe i am doing it wrong?) and then increase as fatigue dissipates ... what weights will i actually see some gains? and approximately what is the avg. amount time before one will start to see the gains?? how quickly do they come?

if i were to hang a minimum of 40 mins a day... EVERYDAY... (depending on time available... is this sufficient? or not? (40 mins would be absolute minimum... for example (today i hung for 140 mins total - (20*7))

Also will clamping every so often hurt my gains?

thanks alot.... i REALLLY want to see some gains i am getting dicouraged

M3721 · Oct 4, 2005

Also, what do you classify as fatigue???

M3721 · Oct 4, 2005

I am using 7.5 lbs now, and i decided i will use each weight for approx. 50 hrs TOTAL hang time.. (not all at once of course... i will accumulate it over a series of workouts) at which time i will measure, and then increase by 2.5 lbs (i don't have anything smaller - but after 50 hrs with a certain weight i think this should be alright?)

i really want to make some gains.. sorry for all the posts and inquries i am just really excited and modivated to GROW.

i hope you can answer most of my Qs

thanks so much.

Bib · Oct 4, 2005

M3721,

>how much time do you need to spend to gain??<

Most guys that hang at least ten hours per week seem to have good success.

>if i were to do a month of hanging with say 7.5 lbs slightly above BTC... (i find this a VERY uncofrtable postion to sit in.. maybe i am doing it wrong?)<

It is possible you are doing it wrong. How are you performing BTC?

>and then increase as fatigue dissipates ... what weights will i actually see some gains? and approximately what is the avg. amount time before one will start to see the gains?? how quickly do they come?<

Nobody can tell you that. I started gaining at about 7.5 lbs, hanging for a couple hours (this was in the beginning as I was working up in time). This was in the first ten days or so. But you will obviously be different. It just depends on the consistancy, the toughness of your collagenous tissues. At some stress level, time and weight, the tissues will fail, and begin to deform.

I know of one individual who stuck with it, with no gains, for over two years. Then, he reached the 30 lb mark, and began to gain. I believe he stopped with 1.5 inches of gain. Also, it depends on what your beginning LOT is, the amount of inner penis you have available, to pull out by stretching the relatively easy ligs (as opposed to tunica stretch).

>if i were to hang a minimum of 40 mins a day... EVERYDAY... (depending on time available... is this sufficient? or not?Also will clamping every so often hurt my gains?<

It is possible that clamping would hurt you reaching your length goals. Especially since it usually makes the hanger attachment point sensitive.

>thanks alot.... i REALLLY want to see some gains i am getting dicouraged<

No need to get discouraged now. You are just starting. This process takes a while, and requires patience. If you do not have it, perhaps it would be best to stop before investing any more time.

>Also, what do you classify as fatigue???<

Soreness, aching, tiredness, as in after a good weight lifting workout. Also, a feeling that you cannot continue a set at the current weight. Just too much stress.

>I am using 7.5 lbs now, and i decided i will use each weight for approx. 50 hrs TOTAL hang time.. (not all at once of course... i will accumulate it over a series of workouts) at which time i will measure, and then increase by 2.5 lbs (i don't have anything smaller - but after 50 hrs with a certain weight i think this should be alright?)<

You might want to buy a 1-1.5 lb weight, to make the steps more gradual. Try to just go up 1-2 lbs per week, depending on how you feel, until you reach fatigue. Then, you must listen to your body, attempt to hang within the fatigued state, but not so much that you risk injury.

I would say you can move up safely much sooner than the 50 hr mark. Ten hours at a weight, that is not bringing on fatigue, is probably enough to condition the soft tissues to move up in weight.

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M3721 · Oct 5, 2005

Thanks So much!... yes i will shoot for say 10 hrs a week minimum... i did 8 sets yesterday... 2 hours and 40 minutes

quite proud of myself... i won't stop at 10 hrs a week tho.. i'll do it as often as i can.

i really can feel a stretch when i lift up the weight when i take off the hanger bewtween the sets.. the relief is an ache all throughout the penis.. paricularly at the base of the ligs...

ok as for how i perform the BTC... i will like sit on the edge of the chair with my lean back...untill i feel the hanger between my cheeks... it's so uncomfortable and i keep slipping down... i've noticed tho... if i stand, and thrust my hips forward squeezing the glutes i can upward rotated the hips and feel a strain... so i do that... and then sit down keeping the upward rotation... and i can feel the lig strain..

Does anyone have a picture or a good explanation of how to do it comfortabley?

Another Thing... i REALLLY like the idea of increased base girth... how does the girth come in? width wise or up and down? or both?

M3721 · Oct 5, 2005

haha, i couldn't stop if i wanted to... i am not discouraged by hanging but jelqing was not very successful for me at all... then again... i never really stretched much.... so i am hoping hanging is the answer for me

Bib · Oct 6, 2005

M37,

>ok as for how i perform the BTC... i will like sit on the edge of the chair with my lean back...untill i feel the hanger between my cheeks... <

That sounds correct, but what is uncomfortable? Is it the hanger attachment? Skin stretch? Ligs? Back?

>it's so uncomfortable and i keep slipping down...<

What is slipping down?

>i've noticed tho... if i stand, and thrust my hips forward squeezing the glutes i can upward rotated the hips and feel a strain... so i do that... and then sit down keeping the upward rotation... and i can feel the lig strain..<

That would be SD, which is a less severe angle than BTC. It is also easier to hit the ligs, without stretching skin. However, standing is a pain. You can do the same thing while sitting. Just don't scoot so far down in your chair.

>Another Thing... i REALLLY like the idea of increased base girth... how does the girth come in? width wise or up and down? or both?<

Everything. All three chambers.

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M3721 · Oct 7, 2005

i mean i slip down the chair, maybe it's because it's a crappy chair? maybe i need a more Penis Enlargement friendly chair, hahaha, almost fall off this one.

Also, i can't like lay back and relax as there is nothing to supproting my lower back maybe i am scooting too far down?

DAMN i love hanging .... i'm hanging as much as i can... least i have done this week is 2 hrs 20 mins...

M3721 · Oct 8, 2005

well i meant 2 hrs 20 mins a day...

hey i'm noticing that.. my flaccid feels thicker... and harder... from the base up to the head. Maybe i am just paying more attention.. but it feels like it... does hanging actually create more of certain tissues?

i think you ar right about increasing 1-2 lbs every week... i am on day 6 of this week and i definitely feel like i need to add more... i've learned to tighten the hanger realllly well.. when i feel the hanger hug my internal structure i tighten a lil bit more and that seems to give me a good grip..

Bib, do you think if you continued to hang for gains you could bring urself to 12 inches if you so chose to? - just curious.

Bib · Oct 8, 2005

M37,

>i mean i slip down the chair, maybe it's because it's a crappy chair? maybe i need a more Penis Enlargement friendly chair, hahaha, almost fall off this one.Also, i can't like lay back and relax as there is nothing to supproting my lower back maybe i am scooting too far down?hey i'm noticing that.. my flaccid feels thicker... and harder... from the base up to the head. Maybe i am just paying more attention.. but it feels like it... does hanging actually create more of certain tissues?<

It did for me.

>i think you ar right about increasing 1-2 lbs every week... i am on day 6 of this week and i definitely feel like i need to add more... i've learned to tighten the hanger realllly well.. when i feel the hanger hug my internal structure i tighten a lil bit more and that seems to give me a good grip..<

That sounds good.

>Bib, do you think if you continued to hang for gains you could bring urself to 12 inches if you so chose to?<

Yes, I have no doubt. But my collagenous tissues seem to be easily manipulated.

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M3721 · Oct 8, 2005

Thanks Bib!

I must say Bib, you are an inspiration. For someone, who is so successful, to HELP with every question posed is a rarity! you should be proud of ur self.

i am hoping i can bring myself to 10 inches or so by 6-7 around... i'm curious as to why you stopped at 10.5? was it ur wife? did she tell you not to go any further? or just lack of ambition seeing how you are already so large? or both. lol

Bib · Oct 10, 2005

M37,

>I must say Bib, you are an inspiration. For someone, who is so successful, to HELP with every question posed is a rarity! you should be proud of ur self.<

Well, I started on the old old old Penis Enlargementforums. That was the way it was done. Everyone helping everyone. It was quite often said, if someone else helped you gain, then be sure to help someone else. I am afraid that stance has been somewhat lost.

>i am hoping i can bring myself to 10 inches or so by 6-7 around... i'm curious as to why you stopped at 10.5? was it ur wife? did she tell you not to go any further? or just lack of ambition seeing how you are already so large? or both.<

My wife. But also, there was simply no need.

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M3721 · Oct 11, 2005

ok been hanging for like 2 weeks now...

5 lbs for a week, then 7.5 lbs for a week... and now i'm using 10 lbs... last week i hung for a total of 18 and a half hours ... so i'm pretty happy about that. n e ways 10 lbs feels like a moderate jump, so i'll stick with it for a little longer then a week. i felt pretty good fatigue at about set 5 it got progressivly stronger through set 8... How long did you hang for on a weekly basis?

i've noticed that the first few sets i feel like i can hang foreeeever... esp. the first one and then that feeling dissipates with each progessive set... Sometimes i want to just keep hanging for a long time but i figure it's best to preserve this non-fatigued state feeling for subsequnet sets so i don't have to stop premature... What sized sets did you usually perform? i do 20 min sets.

There is a definite learning curve to this hanging business, it's very fun and encouraging... i find myself anxious to get home and hang at the end of the day. It's therapeutic almost? i like it. alot.

k a few notes... it def. feels like there is more tissue down there now, maybe mild inflammation? or new tissue? or both... i'm not sure but soemthing is definetly happening!

Anyways thanks again Bib!!!!!

Bib · Oct 15, 2005

M37,

>How long did you hang for on a weekly basis?What sized sets did you usually perform? i do 20 min sets.<

Yes, I based my sets on 20 minutes. Sometimes I would have to cut them short, and sometimes I forgot about the time, and ran over. But generally 20.

>There is a definite learning curve to this hanging business, it's very fun and encouraging... i find myself anxious to get home and hang at the end of the day. It's therapeutic almost? i like it. alot.<

You know, I really enjoyed my time hanging also. But it is not or was not addictive for me. I think many guys hang just because they like it.

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M3721 · Oct 16, 2005

Thanks!!!

how long do you reccomend between sets? does this affect how difficult the successive set/sets will be?

I've noticed after about 4 sets, the 5th set forward is very fatiguing and it feels like everthing in the area gets veryyy sensitive after about 5 minutes and it's a mental game to finish the 20 min set... i'm wondering how you could work while experiancing this feeling??? or would you simply lower the weight so it was managable to avoid it?

Oh and i think in order to make the steps more gradual i'll make some home made weights

1 pounders.

thanks bib!!!

Bib · Oct 17, 2005

M37,

>how long do you reccomend between sets?<

Ten minute rest periods. But many guys do more or less. The key is to allow the tissues to become bathed in oxygenated blood during the rest. Experiment to see what works best for you.

>does this affect how difficult the successive set/sets will be?I've noticed after about 4 sets, the 5th set forward is very fatiguing and it feels like everthing in the area gets veryyy sensitive after about 5 minutes and it's a mental game to finish the 20 min set... i'm wondering how you could work while experiancing this feeling??? or would you simply lower the weight so it was managable to avoid it?<

Reduce the weight. Reduce the weight. Reduce the weight. Reduce the weight. Reduce the weight.

Try to get work up, 1-2 lbs per week, till you reach the point where you are reaching fatigue within the first set or two. Then, reduce the weight in subsequent sets, as needed, in order to continue to hang. IMO, this is when you are truly deforming tissues.

>Oh and i think in order to make the steps more gradual i'll make some home made weights<

Good idea.

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M3721 · Oct 17, 2005

thanks !!!

alright so as soon as i experiance fatigue i should lower the weight in the subsequent set? or go for one more set first?

when i lower the weight should i decrease as little as possible in order to continue hanging comfortably?? or what?

Bib · Oct 18, 2005

M37,

>alright so as soon as i experiance fatigue i should lower the weight in the subsequent set? or go for one more set first?<

You will have to play it by ear. Usually, when if I had hard time finishing the first set at my Max weight, I would go ahead and reduce for the next set. But you may be different.

>when i lower the weight should i decrease as little as possible in order to continue hanging comfortably?? or what?<

Just do some experimentation and see what works best for you. It really depends on the range of weight with which you are working. When I was hanging 20-25 lbs, I would usually reduce in 2.5 lb increments. But when I was hanging at a Max of 15, I would only reduce by 1 lb.

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M3721 · Oct 18, 2005

alright sounds good... this will allow me to hang ALOT more. since sometime s i had to quit not due to time contstraints but it was simply too hard to continue!

i think i'll be averaging 8-10 sets a day 7 days a week... hopefully i'll see some growth before i hit 30 lbs as my max weight ! haha! mind you i'm not going to measure until christmas (or i see a remarkable increase) so i don't get discouraged!

when i reach my length goals... i will be doing clamping... u meantioned uli 3s. i was wondering what is the device you used to do them and how did you perform them?

goldmember · Oct 19, 2005

M3721 said:
u meantioned uli 3s. i was wondering what is the device you used to do them and how did you perform them?

Sign up at Thund3rs Pl@ce.org Search for a thread called Uli Thing. This is the only device I know of. But, you don't need a device.

Bib · Oct 19, 2005

What gold said. One of you might go to Thunders, copy my instructions, and move it over here. I told someone I would find those and put them up, but I have had no time.

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M3721 · Oct 19, 2005

nice, i'll have to check later...

hey bib... when doing say 14-17 sets a day what range of weight would u have worked with??

supposing you started with ur top weight of 45 lbs.. like what would ur lowest sets be and how progressive would the decrease in weights be? (45 -40-35-30-30-30-25-25-25-25-25 etc etc???)

how about with 15? or 10 lbs as your max?

today i used 11.25 lbs as my max weight... i lasted 3 sets with little fatigue... the last 3 fatigue came on sooner and sooner in the set... i then proceeded to use 7.5 lbs... for 4 sets the first 2 the last 5-7 mins were very fatiguing... the last 2 sets fatiuing all the way thru... i then continued to finish off with 2 sets of 5 which were fairly easy but mounting fatigue towards the end of the set.

so it went like this;

11.25 x 6 (first 3 fairly easy, last 3 got progressivley fatiguing... last set very difficult)
7.5 x 4 (first 2 difficult in the last 5-7 minutes... last 2 very fatiguing after 5 minutes)
5.0 x 2 (fairly easy to begin with, but mounting fatigue towards the end of each set)

how does this sounds to you?

goldmember · Oct 20, 2005

Novice hangers should ensure both that they use a suitable weight, and avoid excessive loss of circulation when hanging. Any feeling of numbness or cold/blue glans should be taken as an indication to immediately end the hanging session.

The Original Bib Hanger

Split and cut off a 3 inch pice of tubing
Cut out 1/4
Trim out a U or V as shown
Cut off excess for head and drill hole for S-hook
Shown opened
Bevel all contact edged. Bevel opening edges as shown in close up.
Attach band clamp

M3721 · Oct 20, 2005

i've made version 2 of that hanger...

oh and bib... where should i position the hanger? as close to the glans as possible? or what?

Bib · Oct 24, 2005

M37,

>hey bib... when doing say 14-17 sets a day what range of weight would u have worked with??<

I simply went by feel. I might have reduced the weight more or less, depending on how sore I was. Then, I might hit a weight that I could hang for several sets in a row. It just depended on soreness.

I did not push the envelope, but was usually very safe. Also, if I was too sore during a set, I would reduce weight or end the set. When I was hanging very heavy weight, if I was so sore that I could not hang half my max, I would generally end the session.

>supposing you started with ur top weight of 45 lbs.. like what would ur lowest sets be and how progressive would the decrease in weights be? (45 -40-35-30-30-30-25-25-25-25-25 etc etc???)<

The above could be a possibility.

>how about with 15? or 10 lbs as your max?<

Same thing.

>>today i used 11.25 lbs as my max weight... i lasted 3 sets with little fatigue... the last 3 fatigue came on sooner and sooner in the set... i then proceeded to use 7.5 lbs... for 4 sets the first 2 the last 5-7 mins were very fatiguing... the last 2 sets fatiuing all the way thru... i then continued to finish off with 2 sets of 5 which were fairly easy but mounting fatigue towards the end of the set.

so it went like this;

11.25 x 6 (first 3 fairly easy, last 3 got progressivley fatiguing... last set very difficult)
7.5 x 4 (first 2 difficult in the last 5-7 minutes... last 2 very fatiguing after 5 minutes)
5.0 x 2 (fairly easy to begin with, but mounting fatigue towards the end of each set)

how does this sounds to you?<<

That sounds entirely reasonable.

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M3721 · Oct 25, 2005

THANKS!!!

hey i've noticed stretch marks on the skin at the base of my penis, also.. the underside of my penis seems thicker... not sure tho... could just be looking too hard. I'm going to measure on christmas, maybe it will be my best gift

hahaha! anywhere from 1/2" to inch would be incredible. n e ways,

I was wondering how would you compare your size to say mandingo's or DLDs? same size? is your size bone pressed? or non bone pressed? have you ever posted pictures?

M3721 · Oct 25, 2005

On a another note, i've realized the reason i was having trouble with sets was i was hanging too low! The hanger would ride over the head a bit!! i've since realized it's best to have it so it meets the back of the glans when pulled (not hanging onto it, but hanging just behind it, kissing it if you will)... i've had some really good hanging sessions since! no pain, and only slight discomfort, the ligs bug me before anything else!

i figure i'm going to averaging ABOUT 15 hrs a week. i'd like to hang alot more but i really don't have the time to. when summer comes tho! i'll be hanging probably close to twice that.

M3721 · Oct 26, 2005

Bib this is another question (sorry for so many!!!)...

When it comes to hanging at different angles how do you approach this??

What angles to use? how are they performed? how often to rotate angles?

i had originally been hanging SD, but now have been hanging BTC as i feel it more in the ligs and fascial tissue now.

I've been hanging for a full month now, and am now using 12.5 lbs for at least 15 hrs a week. At what point should i consider other angles other then the standard BTC and SD? after i've reach a max weight which draws fatigue in 1-2 sets and have been at it for a month or so? or what?

Thanks AGAIN BIB!!! you are a TREMENDOUS help...

OzStretch · Oct 26, 2005

M,
Sounds like you are very dedicated and putting a tremendous effort into your Penis Enlargement. Well Done!!
You might want to consider doing a measurement before Christmas. Penis Enlargement is like everything, there is a right way and a wrong way, and for each person the right way is a little different. At your pace you should have gained 1/2 inch by 2.5 months if you are hitting it in the right way. If you have not then you need to alter what you are doing. Measurement is a key to management, whether it is in sport, business or Penis Enlargement. Make little changes along the way to achieve the best result. Hanging is great, and I have achieved my best result since starting. How do I know? I have been measuring the changes. What if I didn't start and kept doing what I was doing? Not as good a result. Using Bib's lot theory it helped to hit the right place at the right time. But I felt I needed more after a while, and it wasn't more weight I needed, but different angles. I tried using my body weight against a door handle and wow what a difference that made as well, so I made some adjustments again and added a little of that into my routine. Also to get almost instant feedback can be very motivating. To see my flaccid stretch length jump a quarter inch in a day is exciting, especially after I have tried something new.
There is a great book called Body for Life by Bill Phillips. He has a workout and diet routine that results in the most incredible body transformations you have ever seen in only 12 weeks. Look at the link www.bodyforlife.com/success/beforeAfterAfters.asp . Many of these people went to the gym for years, but never got the results. This program put them all on a system that worked and they got the desired results.
My point is you could spend a lifetime doing the wrong thing and get moderate results, but if you continually measure and only accept routines that get results, you will hit your goals much quicker.

Bib · Oct 27, 2005

M37,

>I was wondering how would you compare your size to say mandingo's or DLDs?same size?is your size bone pressed? or non bone pressed?<

Bone pressed.

>have you ever posted pictures?<

No.

>On a another note, i've realized the reason i was having trouble with sets was i was hanging too low! The hanger would ride over the head a bit!! i've since realized it's best to have it so it meets the back of the glans when pulled (not hanging onto it, but hanging just behind it, kissing it if you will)... i've had some really good hanging sessions since! no pain, and only slight discomfort, the ligs bug me before anything else!<

You should be compressing the hanger enough to grasp the internal structures, and the hanger and weight should actually be compressing forward, and riding on the upper part of the shaft, on the 'shoulders' of the head. Not even just behind the glans.

>When it comes to hanging at different angles how do you approach this??<

You must evaluate your routine on a fairly routine basis, at least once per month, or more often. Are you consistantly reaching fatigue in the target tissues? Are you able to apply effective stress to the target tissues? Are you following the various tests to determine the most effective angles, etc.

>What angles to use? how are they performed?<

You will need to search and read other threads for this information. It is volumous and complicated.

>how often to rotate angles?<

That is an individual decision. You will have to look at your situation, and determine this. However, I always liked to stick with an angle for at least a couple of weeks before making a decision to change. It sometimes would take that long to begin to reach fatigue, and show any tissue deformation.

>i had originally been hanging SD, but now have been hanging BTC as i feel it more in the ligs and fascial tissue now.<

That sounds good.

>'ve been hanging for a full month now, and am now using 12.5 lbs for at least 15 hrs a week. At what point should i consider other angles other then the standard BTC and SD?<

When your exit point or LOT drop far enough that you feel you have exhausted gains from lig stretch. Or, if you become too fatigued, risking injury to the lig bundles. There are probably other reasons to change that I cannot think of at the moment.

>after i've reach a max weight which draws fatigue in 1-2 sets and have been at it for a month or so? or what?<

No. Do not go by some arbitrary schedule based on time. Go by feel, and what you see. Do the research, evaluate the current status of your unit, and make an informed decision on how to proceed.

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M3721 · Oct 27, 2005

alright thanks bib... sorry for so many questions...

last question tho...

if i attach the hanger (grasping the internal structures) to when TAUGHT it sits just on the "shoulders" of the glans that should be alright?

Bib · Oct 27, 2005

M37,

>if i attach the hanger (grasping the internal structures) to when TAUGHT it sits just on the "shoulders" of the glans that should be alright?<

I do not know what you mean. You want the hanger to grasp the internal structures so that the tunica, smooth muscle, etc, is force forward, forming the shoulders, and the hanger never actually reaches the head.

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M3721 · Oct 28, 2005

oooh alright so basically it should not even TOUCH the glans it should hang down just beHIND the glans.. alright alright i got you!

thanks so much!

smooth sailing from here on out!

Thanks Again bib, you're an INCREDIBLE help! rofl

M3721 · Nov 1, 2005

Hey Bib!!! how are you?

Few Questions and inquiries

Do you have a type of chair you'd reccomend???

What is the MOST weight you've heard of someone having to use before they began to accumulate gains (was it that 30 lbs?) ? and what would you figure the avg. gain rate per month is? i will take whatever i can get, long as i am gaining

half a CM a month would be nice though (more the better of course!)

A Few additional notes, My penis feels alot tougher lately... hard to explain what i mean but just tougher the head esp. i'd assume this is all part of the adaption process.

I am still averaging a minimum of 15 hrs a week... i'm using 13.75 lbs right now, and i tend to have trouble with the 4-5th set... so i feel i will be hitting fatigue within the 1-2 set range with about 15-20 lbs normal? abnormal?

I am still rotating between BTC and SD... i have found a nice angle between the 2 which seems to hit the ligs quite well and i think i'll stick which it for a while.

Thanks Again!

M

M3721 · Nov 1, 2005

When i say tougher head i mean, it's slightly lost sensitivity. is there a way i could releive some upper shaft pressure? i was thinking adding a strip of 2 of cloth along the top of the shaft extra to prevent dorsal nerve irritation.

I use the 2nd home made bib hanger BTW. the 2 peice one.

M3721 · Nov 2, 2005

Upon review of my technique vs. proper technique i've come up with the following possibilites for my problem...

1. I've been tightening the hanger much too tight... it should be as loose, as can support the weight with internal structures taking the brunt, as possible correct? i was going far past this. not good, i'm fixing it.

2. I've been wrapping a bit too tight... my wrap was sligghtly pinching at all times while hanging. not good, i'm fixing this.

With the over all problem being excessive tightness and constriction it does not surprise me i've run into this problem. Come to think of it i've always had my head fill with blood and go blueish.. hopefully after having recognized the issue i will regain full sensitivity of my upper head.

Any further tips and comments would be greatly appreciated... thanks bib.

Bib · Nov 2, 2005

M37,

>Do you have a type of chair you'd reccomend???<

If you are going to buy one, I would say the cheapo office chairs, that recline, are height adjustable, and have a higher back would be perfect. You do not have to get a leather model. Just cloth covered would be fine.

>What is the MOST weight you've heard of someone having to use before they began to accumulate gains (was it that 30 lbs?) ?<

Yes.

>and what would you figure the avg. gain rate per month is?i will take whatever i can get, long as i am gaining half a CM a month would be nice though (more the better of course!)<

That might happen to begin, with newbie gains. But overall, gains will average much slower than that for most guys.

>A Few additional notes, My penis feels alot tougher lately... hard to explain what i mean but just tougher the head esp. i'd assume this is all part of the adaption process.<

Hmmm. No, that does not sound too good. I see in the next two posts, you wrote about problems with your technique. That will probably address some of these physical problems.

>I am still averaging a minimum of 15 hrs a week... i'm using 13.75 lbs right now, and i tend to have trouble with the 4-5th set... so i feel i will be hitting fatigue within the 1-2 set range with about 15-20 lbs normal? abnormal?<

That sounds totally within the expected range.

>When i say tougher head i mean, it's slightly lost sensitivity. is there a way i could releive some upper shaft pressure? i was thinking adding a strip of 2 of cloth along the top of the shaft extra to prevent dorsal nerve irritation.<

Yes, that might help. But the biggest problem with the homemade hangers is a lack of blood channels to provide at least a bit of circulation. Also, the overtightening thing addressed below can be bad.

>I use the 2nd home made bib hanger BTW. the 2 peice one.<

Yes, this is something that takes time and practice, but you need to pay attention to it. You need to trim the piece that goes around the top back of the head to where it fits YOU. Further, you need to make sure the U or V cut in the plastic totally avoids the area just behind the top of the head.

>1. I've been tightening the hanger much too tight... it should be as loose, as can support the weight with internal structures taking the brunt, as possible correct?<

That is correct. With the circular type hangers, it is harder to grasp the internal stuctures, bunching the shaft "meat", and avoiding the head taking the weight. Just tighten enough to do this, and no more. It helps to manually check the tightness, see if the hanger slips, before applying the weight.

>i was going far past this. not good, i'm fixing it.<

That sounds good.

>2. I've been wrapping a bit too tight... my wrap was sligghtly pinching at all times while hanging. not good, i'm fixing this.<

Another common problem.

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M3721 · Nov 2, 2005

Do you think i should be overly-concerned about this slight loss in sensation on the top of the head???

Suggestions??

heard of this before?

M3721 · Nov 3, 2005

Would it help if i posted a picture of my hanger? you could point out any deficiencies...

Perhaps you have the schematics for a better home made hanger?

Also i do not have a credit card as yet... is there any other way i could order a bib? And what would be the benefits of a bib as apposed to a home made? Any thing i could make on my own that would come close?

Bib · Nov 3, 2005

M37,

>Would it help if i posted a picture of my hanger? you could point out any deficiencies...Perhaps you have the schematics for a better home made hanger?<

No. You can try Cap's wench.

>Also i do not have a credit card as yet... is there any other way i could order a bib?<

Personal check, money order, or cash.

>And what would be the benefits of a bib as apposed to a home made?Any thing i could make on my own that would come close?<

Surely. The Bibs started out as my own homemade hangers. I spent hundreds, if not thousands of hours making hangers. Literally hundreds of hangers of all shapes and sizes. If you have the tools, time, and patience, you can make a hanger which is perfect for you. That was the single biggest hurdle in designing the Bibs, making a hanger that was fairly universal. They are OK, but there are still some guys that have a hard time fitting.

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