Hello! Okey, so i have figured out a way to make my penis expand further when i'm 100% erect. I just simply hold a reverse keegel and watch my penis expand further.
It makes my penis fill upp completly, which is nice. But i also recognized that when i'm doing this i get "fluid retention" At least my skin feels more "soft" to the touch
as my skin also expands when i do this. It is this soft and smooth area that you can compress. I'm not familiar with fluid retention, but starting to be lately.

It's like the blood gets trapped above my tunica and just underneath the skin when i do this.

Can someone explain to me what this indicates to me, and if there is something i should do. I need to know what it means and how i should proceed.

Thank you!
 
I can reveal the secrets of the universe to you by first describe to me if your bellybutton feels like it has a little liquid underneath the skin or nah
 
templnite;696846 said:
I can reveal the secrets of the universe to you by first describe to me if your bellybutton feels like it has a little liquid underneath the skin or nah

You mean like.. Right now or when i'm erect and are doing the reverse kegel? :)
 
templnite;696851 said:
Right now bra

Nope, i don't think it feels like liquid if i push on my bellybutton with a finger. I usually don't do this so i don't have a feeling to compare with though x)
What i can tell is that it feels exactly like if i push my finger everywhere else on my stomach, it compresses a bit and the only different feeling is that if i push in to my belly button
i get a little bit of suction when i pull it off.
 
Oh yeah? So you're chubby or what? How far deep do you have yours, mines about up to the first joint on my finger.

About your question well fluid hits me pretty hard to but I need to be doing my exercises and applying heat to get the maximum expansion (and fluid). I dont pump anymore but that exercise gives me greater fluid most times. Tbh I dont reverse kegel too long because I feel like the benefit only lasts about a second at a time and I need to segway into a kegel for it to really trap more blood than normal (otherwise my erection is always %100).

Fluid retention is just a nuisance we have to deal with but you can reduce it by strategic rolls if you really want to
 
templnite;696854 said:
Oh yeah? So you're chubby or what? How far deep do you have yours, mines about up to the first joint on my finger.

About your question well fluid hits me pretty hard to but I need to be doing my exercises and applying heat to get the maximum expansion (and fluid). I dont pump anymore but that exercise gives me greater fluid most times. Tbh I dont reverse kegel too long because I feel like the benefit only lasts about a second at a time and I need to segway into a kegel for it to really trap more blood than normal (otherwise my erection is always %100).

Fluid retention is just a nuisance we have to deal with but you can reduce it by strategic rolls if you really want to

No, i'm very very skinny! I can still push it in and out like a trampoline though.

I don't want the fluid retention, as i want to see the real expansion. I just think fluid retention is counterproductive. I'm not one of those guys that wants to count fluid retention as gains and brag about it x)
Fluid retention is just a visual effect and nothing else. It's not useable, so how could you even care about that? I want my penis to have thin skin and my penis to be rock hard, i don't want a shield of elastic skin or fluid retention
covering my penis like a shell.
 
Some dudes use fluid just for having a larger bulge but it only gets in the way of training imo. Do those rolls between sets to fight it and maybe do your manuals before your [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]. That's what I would do if I still had my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] because I need to be worked and warmed for vacuum to realm catch my internals

How deep is your button hole player? How is the scar tissue in there shaped
 
templnite;696856 said:
Some dudes use fluid just for having a larger bulge but it only gets in the way of training imo. Do those rolls between sets to fight it and maybe do your manuals before your [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]. That's what I would do if I still had my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] because I need to be worked and warmed for vacuum to realm catch my internals

How deep is your button hole player? How is the scar tissue in there shaped

Which kind of rolls are you referring to? :)
Also i don't know what you mean by "button hole player" hehe.

[words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] supersets is good for less fluid retention i have recognized. But since i started to use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] i am now more prone to fluid retentions, even if i do ulis and this reverse kegel i talked about i can see the retention.
So currently i'm on a rest period to see if the fluid retention will disappear. I have to ensure you i have very minimal retention, but they are noticeable now, as they haven't been before. All i want is a penis with thin skin which is hard
directly to the touch, that also grows by exercises ;)

I have a theory. When you have reached your genetically maximal limit of blood your penis can hold, it will start to travel outside the tunica instead, just behind the skin. Those are the gains you can achieve when maximal limit is reached, but they doesn't count as real gains.
Anything you have to say about that?
 
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Yeah dawg use firegoat rolls to reduce fluid , do rk in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] to stay more erect which also combats fluid. The theory is accurate but its extracellular fluid not blood.

I dont bother waiting for fluid to subside though and I think it helped me with regard to the duration I retain it. Before it used to stick around for longer

Button hole is the end of your bellybutton, how deep is it? Mines about a centimeter and a half
 
templnite;696866 said:
Yeah dawg use firegoat rolls to reduce fluid , do rk in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] to stay more erect which also combats fluid. The theory is accurate but its extracellular fluid not blood.

I dont bother waiting for fluid to subside though and I think it helped me with regard to the duration I retain it. Before it used to stick around for longer

Button hole is the end of your bellybutton, how deep is it? Mines about a centimeter and a half

I see. Ye i use both kegels and reverse kegels in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]. But i haven't used [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] for a time now, just wanna see what happens with the excessive or fluid state my penis takes.
Just wanna see what happens if it disappears ;)

My button hole is maybe 1 centimeter, perhaps a half more as you say. If you mean how far it is without compressing. If i push inward with my finger so my whole stomach compress, it's not 1 centimeter and a half, than it's a lot more ;)
 
Mines that deep if I do press down as far as I can 😊 i was just checking because i thought it felt weird that there was a little bubble under the skin. Its probably just lymph produced by my immune systems though. I went and jabbed my moms button hole to see if it was different but no she has that liquidy feeling too, only she says it feels uncomfortable to stick my finger in there.

Its all good with the fluid retention though bra, its basically the same type of liquid when you get a blister on any part of you. Its just a defense mechanism for when your body gets inflammation. Its good doe because it means you're stretching out the tunica good
 
habban;696844 said:
Hello! Okey, so i have figured out a way to make my penis expand further when i'm 100% erect. I just simply hold a reverse keegel and watch my penis expand further.
It makes my penis fill upp completly, which is nice. But i also recognized that when i'm doing this i get "fluid retention" At least my skin feels more "soft" to the touch
as my skin also expands when i do this. It is this soft and smooth area that you can compress. I'm not familiar with fluid retention, but starting to be lately.

It's like the blood gets trapped above my tunica and just underneath the skin when i do this.

Can someone explain to me what this indicates to me, and if there is something i should do. I need to know what it means and how i should proceed.

Thank you!

Are you sure its reverse kegeling, so you do the "pooping" action? or are you kegeling
 
habban;696868 said:
I see. Ye i use both kegels and reverse kegels in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words]. But i haven't used [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] for a time now, just wanna see what happens with the excessive or fluid state my penis takes.
Just wanna see what happens if it disappears ;)

The penis will take on very little fluid when the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] 5x5x3 are used. Excessive pumping will bring a huge fat cock but it will be all water retention. When we over-pump beyond retention the penis starts to take on blood from with the penis and it starts to come outward causing discoloration and bruising.
 
kyomoto;696905 said:
Are you sure its reverse kegeling, so you do the "pooping" action? or are you kegeling

Yep. I'm using the motion you do to force out pee quicker. I use regular kegel to trap the blod, like when you stop the pee.
 
doublelongdaddy;696916 said:
The penis will take on very little fluid when the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] 5x5x3 are used. Excessive pumping will bring a huge fat cock but it will be all water retention. When we over-pump beyond retention the penis starts to take on blood from with the penis and it starts to come outward causing discoloration and bruising.

How much girth gains have you made from true penis increase, with no fiddle like fluid retention or anything else contributed?
 
habban;696926 said:
Yep. I'm using the motion you do to force out pee quicker. I use regular kegel to trap the blod, like when you stop the pee.

That's interesting. I need to try this thank you :) The fluid retention might be from blood righT?
 
kyomoto;696940 said:
That's interesting. I need to try this thank you :) The fluid retention might be from blood righT?

I have tried to tell you how to perform it in an earlier post if you remember :D
Templnite confirmed the motion and told me he uses it very effectively. So did i, but i haven't had time now to experiment enough with it. This motion for me brings out fluid retention single-handedly.

I have a tip for you regarding it, if you sit down on a chair while 100% erect it is much easier to do this, the muscles responds much better, at least it did for me. Try different positionings.
Maybe i mimic what you do when you sit on a tennis ball almost when i sit on a chair, which you do to relax the pelvic floor muscles, and if i do this while i push out i feel that it's more effective and responsive.

I quote from Templnite regarding your question if it's blood: "The theory is accurate but its extracellular fluid not blood."
 
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When you compress on your taint (bulb of penis)? Yeah I've done that too but I think that's getting into the realm of prostate stimulation so fuck that. Also I think that has to do with your bulb not being as firm anymore, it got used to being squished on the chair
 
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habban;696974 said:
I have tried to tell you how to perform it in an earlier post if you remember :D
Templnite confirmed the motion and told me he uses it very effectively. So did i, but i haven't had time now to experiment enough with it. This motion for me brings out fluid retention single-handedly.

I have a tip for you regarding it, if you sit down on a chair while 100% erect it is much easier to do this, the muscles responds much better, at least it did for me. Try different positionings.
Maybe i mimic what you do when you sit on a tennis ball almost when i sit on a chair, which you do to relax the pelvic floor muscles, and if i do this while i push out i feel that it's more effective and responsive.

I quote from Templnite regarding your question if it's blood: "The theory is accurate but its extracellular fluid not blood."

Where would the fluid come from. Also yes sitting helps there's a position that helps with erections. Tried it last night, was weird lol
 
kyomoto;696988 said:
Where would the fluid come from. Also yes sitting helps there's a position that helps with erections. Tried it last night, was weird lol

What did happen during this so called "weird" session? Would be interesting to know in detail.

I'm not sure where the fluid comes from, i haven't think about it yet. If i would have the expertise of every detail in the human penis and what happens i would be good enough to get a logical explanation i believe.
But unfortunately i don't know everything yet to compose a good theory.
 
habban;696992 said:
What did happen during this so called "weird" session? Would be interesting to know in detail.

I'm not sure where the fluid comes from, i haven't think about it yet. If i would have the expertise of every detail in the human penis and what happens i would be good enough to get a logical explanation i believe.
But unfortunately i don't know everything yet to compose a good theory.

Fluid retention occurred im just not used to having this happen to me lol its so weird and new to me
 
habban;696996 said:
Ye, strange. What tha fak is that? Can someone please tell me :D

Yeah Kyocera what's 'fluid retention' :s I've never had it (giggles)
 
templnite;696999 said:
Yeah Kyocera what's 'fluid retention' :s I've never had it (giggles)

Huh? What i'm asking is.. Why do we get fluid retention when we make a reverse keegel in erect state.

Kyocera?
 
I want my penis to be more resistant when i measure my girth around. It feels like i can push my measuring tape a bit enough to make me sad. I want the CC & CS to be pushing outward with a hard solid internal pressure, with enough pressure to resist
if i would push/strangle a bit with the measuring tape. I can go from 4.85 down to 4.5 if i push smoothly with the measuring tape. It makes too much variables for measuring mistakes. I just want a solid pressure from the penis to push against
the measuring tape. The internal pressure seems not enough, even though my EQ seems fine, high angle, pretty resistant to downward pressure with my hands, strong prominent veins, a CS that appears. My erection quality has been like this for a very
long time!

But if i do the reverse keegel, further blood sems to flow inside but they end up making fluid retention, so the resistant feeling i search doesn't happen anyways. I want my CC/CS to be hard as rock if i push against them, with very thin skin covering.

What do i do??
 
templnite;697021 said:

Any suggested routine for doing them? For how long should you do them, and when to add them in to your daily routine, after or before any special exercise?

Are you talking about the motion when you put your penis between your palms and rub it like you do with a stick to create fire? :)
 
habban;697017 said:
I want my penis to be more resistant when i measure my girth around. It feels like i can push my measuring tape a bit enough to make me sad. I want the CC & CS to be pushing outward with a hard solid internal pressure, with enough pressure to resist
if i would push/strangle a bit with the measuring tape. I can go from 4.85 down to 4.5 if i push smoothly with the measuring tape. It makes too much variables for measuring mistakes. I just want a solid pressure from the penis to push against
the measuring tape. The internal pressure seems not enough, even though my EQ seems fine, high angle, pretty resistant to downward pressure with my hands, strong prominent veins, a CS that appears. My erection quality has been like this for a very
long time!

But if i do the reverse keegel, further blood sems to flow inside but they end up making fluid retention, so the resistant feeling i search doesn't happen anyways. I want my CC/CS to be hard as rock if i push against them, with very thin skin covering.

What do i do??
need to keep working that EQ bro. lots of jelging, edging, and kegels. it should get better and better like working a muscle.
 
acromegaly;697051 said:
need to keep working that EQ bro. lots of jelging, edging, and kegels. it should get better and better like working a muscle.

Yes. I currently avoid jelqing though. I'm trying with the kegelwork and edging ;)
It seems like i have good erections, but the chambers seems a little bit too squishy for my taste.

Something i'm going to try is pumping with low level to avoid fluid retention and get a little expansion, as i have sometimes seen that i can get harder temporarily after a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] session. I have to fiddle a bit to reach the same
state over and over again.
 
habban;697044 said:
Any suggested routine for doing them? For how long should you do them, and when to add them in to your daily routine, after or before any special exercise?

Are you talking about the motion when you put your penis between your palms and rub it like you do with a stick to create fire? :)

do them amidst your regular sets when you notice a little fluid or discoloration it helps with both. Or you can save it for last that's ok too but imo just forget about fluid if its not very apparent. By very apparent I meant as in like those pictures acro used to post where he had the wtf effect under the glans. When deadwood and others told him he looked deformed
 
habban;697054 said:
Yes. I currently avoid jelqing though. I'm trying with the kegelwork and edging ;)
It seems like i have good erections, but the chambers seems a little bit too squishy for my taste.

Something i'm going to try is pumping with low level to avoid fluid retention and get a little expansion, as i have sometimes seen that i can get harder temporarily after a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] session. I have to fiddle a bit to reach the same
state over and over again.
it will get easier and easier to maintain a rock hard erection the more you work on it. Edging and kegeling is really good for it like i say over and over lol. just stay positive and keep smashing it.
 
templnite;697056 said:
do them amidst your regular sets when you notice a little fluid or discoloration it helps with both. Or you can save it for last that's ok too but imo just forget about fluid if its not very apparent. By very apparent I meant as in like those pictures acro used to post where he had the wtf effect under the glans. When deadwood and others told him he looked deformed

I care because i want to see the true effect of PE. Fluid retention covers up the reality a little bit. I just go my way to realize the truth and effectiveness of everything.

Hahaha, i remember those pictures x)
 
Hahahahaha yeah poor guy, he thought we were gonna be super stoked on him xD. The harmful effects of watching animae and getting piercings xD
Either way you will definitely notice expansion in the early sets before the fluid comes through.
Remember when you get the cells to divide you also gotta let them mature before you divide them again. So just try for you to have some expansion then put on the cockring so the cells can duplicate in larger form you get me? If you just keep splitting them like crazy they get starved and you harm your progress.
 
habban;696930 said:
How much girth gains have you made from true penis increase, with no fiddle like fluid retention or anything else contributed?

2+ inches in girth gained and 4+ inches of length.
 
templnite;697059 said:
Hahahahaha yeah poor guy, he thought we were gonna be super stoked on him xD. The harmful effects of watching animae and getting piercings xD
Either way you will definitely notice expansion in the early sets before the fluid comes through.
Remember when you get the cells to divide you also gotta let them mature before you divide them again. So just try for you to have some expansion then put on the cockring so the cells can duplicate in larger form you get me? If you just keep splitting them like crazy they get starved and you harm your progress.

Sounds reasonable perhaps, but it seems like a cock ring could possibly retain fluid retention :)
I will try some stuffs!
 
kyomoto;697089 said:
Does fluid retention help in any way?

In a sense it does help stretch the skin but skin is the easiest thing to stretch. It is far better to see tissue expansion. The 5x5x3 routine in [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] guarantees tissue expansion. There will always be a bit of retention but not much.
 
kyomoto;697089 said:
Does fluid retention help in any way?

It gives more temporary size but if you can train to get constant healthy expansion you will actually get more permanent gains faster. Of course with experience everyone will develop their own method.
 
Ahh so skin, temporarily, but not permanently. Got it. So then this is what was happening when I would stretch, I believe I got fluid retnetion stuck under the frenulum
 
kyomoto;697269 said:
Ahh so skin, temporarily, but not permanently. Got it. So then this is what was happening when I would stretch, I believe I got fluid retnetion stuck under the frenulum

I think fluid retention is a negative [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sign[/words] of PE. It's a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sign[/words] that you are doing too much to name a few.

I'm on a rest period now instead, to let everything heal properly and then i will start over again and analyze what gives me fluid retentions, whether it's a specific exercise or amount of work.
 
kyomoto;697269 said:
... So then this is what was happening when I would stretch, I believe I got fluid retnetion stuck under the frenulum

yeah it happens, you can also get it from really crazy sex or jerking off lol
 
habban;697284 said:
I think fluid retention is a negative [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sign[/words] of PE. It's a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sign[/words] that you are doing too much to name a few.

I'm on a rest period now instead, to let everything heal properly and then i will start over again and analyze what gives me fluid retentions, whether it's a specific exercise or amount of work.

Fluid retention happens when the penis is under too much stress or pressure. This happens when you are restricted too long, whether it be pumping, hanging, [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] or any other tool that constricts blood flow. As far as pumping goes this happens at around the 5 minute mark and that is why [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] uses the 5x5x3 routine, it eliminates the retention and brings greater tissue gains. If you are seeing water retention you need to adjust how long you are under pressure or constriction and correct the time.
 
acromegaly;697293 said:
yeah it happens, you can also get it from really crazy sex or jerking off lol

oh okay lol

doublelongdaddy;697334 said:
Fluid retention happens when the penis is under too much stress or pressure. This happens when you are restricted too long, whether it be pumping, hanging, [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] or any other tool that constricts blood flow. As far as pumping goes this happens at around the 5 minute mark and that is why [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] uses the 5x5x3 routine, it eliminates the retention and brings greater tissue gains. If you are seeing water retention you need to adjust how long you are under pressure or constriction and correct the time.

This makes a more sense as i read on
 
doublelongdaddy;697334 said:
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This makes perfect sense.
 
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