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10inchadvantage

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Well, I have just ordered some liquid C. Hopefully it'll come in in a day or two since the place I ordered from is located in Baytown, which is right outside of Houston, where I'm currently at. I'll need a week or so of experimentation to see what doses I need at what interval in order to achieve maximum blood flow to my penis. I have been going through some pretty extreme fatigue lately and my penis is still quite sore and the chambers have a hard time expanding. It really sucks. You can check out what happened here: http://www.mattersofsize.com/forumnew/boo-boos-band-aids/30517-extreme-fatigue.html

I am really pumped by what Manhattan XL has said over at ThundersPlace about it. He said he is normally 3.5x4.5 flaccid and usually hangs at 6x5! If I'm that lucky I could potentially be hanging 7" or more throughout the day! That'd be amazing. But the main thing I'm looking for is the blood flow to the penis. According to http://www.mattersofsize.com/forumn...m/30860-ed-drugs-young-people.html#post269761 a post here, ED drugs like Cialis might help repair penile tissue. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I NEED. I am also a healthy 19 year old man, just for reference.

I will keep you guys updated.
 
Just took my first dose. 0.3 ml's worth, so about 9 mg, less than half of the recommended dose for people with ED. We'll see how this works. This'll be my progress thread.
 
Shit. I fucked up the dose. I didn't know you were supposed to stick the larger cylinder of the syringe into the liquid in order to get a perfect vacuum pull. So it's more like I dosed myself with .2 or so. Whatever, there's always tomorrow, plus, better to start out low than high.
 
MackIII said:
Where did you order from and what was their price?
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Got it from www.kitsnmore.com for $42 with shipping. Got two for the price of one. That offer should be ending any day though. It'll hopefully be back as I saw on ThundersPlace that they were ending the deal back in 06 but it was revived.

I got it in just one day after I purchased, but maybe that's because I'm living 30 minutes away from Baytown.

Actually I just checked, they just ended their 2 for 1 deal. Go with the spray from chemoneresearch, it's a much better deal now.
 
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Ok. It seems I have no idea how to work a syringe. My first dose I got maybe .1 it seems, after retesting how much I got, with water instead. So I redosed correctly this time at .2. So now I'm at or less than .3, which is still less than half the recommended dose. Gosh this stuff tastes like medicine.
 
Brother,
Cialis will work when it wants to, it will not keep you extended for hours on end.

On a side note, the proper injection prep method:

draw back on the syringe (in this case .1ml - .2ml, inject syringe into vac-locked vile, push an equal amount of air through the syringe into the vile that you will be drawing the drug out. so, .2 ml of air in to draw .2ml of drug. Of course, shake first so all that powder is floating all around.
 
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The BTC Killer said:
Brother,
Cialis will work when it wants to, it will not keep you extended for hours on end.

On a side note, the proper injection prep method:

draw back on the syringe (in this case .1ml - .2ml, inject syringe into vac-locked vile, push an equal amount of air through the syringe into the vile that you will be drawing the drug out. so, .2 ml of air in to draw .2ml of drug. Of course, shake first so all that powder is floating all around.
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I just removed the vile thing and it's just the syringe. I get no fluid build-up with the draw by doing this, it was much more efficient. I'll play around with your method and see how that works, as it seems even better! Thanks! Also, I have noticed that my inner penis has that "healing" or "therapeutic" feeling ever since dosing sublingually. It feels good. How fast is the chemical absorbed sublingually? I'd hate to leave it under the tongue for 15 minutes a dose.
 
10inchadvantage said:
I just removed the vile thing and it's just the syringe. I get no fluid build-up with the draw by doing this, it was much more efficient. I'll play around with your method and see how that works, as it seems even better! Thanks! Also, I have noticed that my inner penis has that "healing" or "therapeutic" feeling ever since dosing sublingually. It feels good. How fast is the chemical absorbed sublingually? I'd hate to leave it under the tongue for 15 minutes a dose.
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Subligual, You should get a slight light headed feeling in about 1-2 hours. I know after 50 mg of vaigra, about 1 hour to effect and the next day may be boner city.

Are you actually using a syringe, a plunger, or the floppy plastic thing that came with your c?
 
The BTC Killer said:
Subligual, You should get a slight light headed feeling in about 1-2 hours. I know after 50 mg of vaigra, about 1 hour to effect and the next day may be boner city.

Are you actually using a syringe, a plunger, or the floppy plastic thing that came with your c?
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Ya man, when I was walking outside with my dad about 30 minutes ago I felt weird in the head, like a light-headed high. Yes, I am using an actually 3 cc syringe they sent with it, I guess. That's what the thing it was in said. What's a plunger, though?
 
10inchadvantage said:
Yes, I am using an actually 3 cc syringe they sent with it, I guess. That's what the thing it was in said. What's a plunger, though?
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I would go to a pharmacy and ask for a liquid medicine dispensor, with a plunger. It will be more accurate and ridgid. I think there about 5 ml capacity. What strength mg per ml did you get?
 
The BTC Killer said:
I would go to a pharmacy and ask for a liquid medicine dispensor, with a plunger. It will be more accurate and ridgid. I think there about 5 ml capacity. What strength mg per ml did you get?
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30 mg/ml. The syringe works fine though, there is no air buildup when I take the skinny tip off and just leave the syringe itself.

How does liquid C work for you, how much do you take, and when?
 
Well. I haven't noticed any major changes of anything yet. Last night when I was playing with myself, I could get up and walk around, go use the restroom, even brush my teeth for a while and my hardon wouldn't go down under 70%. It was really weird, as I have never had this happen. Also, I couldn't cum to save my life. I was high, to be fair. However, I can always cum when I want when I'm high. This time, I tried pretty hard to get to that point and I couldn't get there. Also, another interesting feeling I had was when I got hard I could feel ALL my penis, all the way like 6 or 7 inches inside. It was as if the whole thing was hard instead of just the area outside of my pelvic region. Pretty neat.
 
Just dosed the second time today at 5 mg, while in the morning I dosed at 10 mg. I'm still in the early stages of trying to find my ideal dosage to time ratio.
 
Ok. Time to report my experiences for the day. So I totaled a 15 mg dose today. In class in the afternoon, I happened to be sitting there, not the least bit turned on (boring macro class), just shifting positions, and my dick rubbed against my leg and the material of my shorts. It felt pretty good and in a few seconds I got a hard on! I had a hard on for over 15 minutes straight with no mental stimulation! This hasn't happened to me since I was 14. It was a great feeling, oddly enough, to have the "problem" of hoping that you don't have to stand up soon to get something or else everyone will know you've got a raging boner in your pants!

Also, in the evening I was just casually rubbing my cock, and I got a nice strong erection. After a few minutes of being hard that internal-pressure "fatigue" sensation was full force. This made me really wonder if Cialis is "pushing" the tissues past their torn-down fatigued state and trying to fill the blood space needed for an 8.5 x 6, which was my max erect measurement in both departments (not so much for girth though, which was on a subtle decline naturally) before all this tissue damage from overtraining on length began happening. It certainly felt like this was happening.

To be more precise, it was very similar to the internal-expansion fatigue feeling I have been having for over a month now. However, the erection seemed to be still pushing past this limit, as if the Cialis-induced erection knew no boundaries just because of some damaged tissue. Because when I would get hard before I took Cialis I would have that feeling, but the erection never felt like it was trying to pass what the fatigued tissues were allowing it to be as. I know this doesn't sound very scientific, but this is my best explanation for this phenomenon.

To put it in simple terms: it's like my cock has a governor on it right now. The governor is a synonym for my damaged tissues. Since the governor sets the limit at 8 x 5.75 (give or take a little, especially in length), my normal erection (standard engine) will not go over this. However, when I introduce Cialis (chip modification in newer cars, or let's just keep it simple and say a supercharger) it is going past what the governor limits, making a faster (more expansion/therapeutic) engine (penis).

My plans for the next two days are as follows:
7/2/07 - no Cialis
7/3/07 - 20 mg dose

15 mg really works better for me than the 10 mg, as noted by my spontaneous erection that I had today. However, I think 20 mg every few days might be my sweet spot in terms of perfect dosage. I have not noticed any side-effects either, which is pretty important.
 
Sounds great so far, 10! I think moving up in dose, incrementally, is such a great idea. It seems that you found the sweet-spot at 15 in regards to effects/sides. I think the lowest necessary dose is the best strategy. I'm excited to hear what 20 mgs brings you. I also think that EOD is the way to go. Have you noticed more morning wood or was that ever a problem to begin with? The more I keep researching chronic dosing of this stuff, the more health benefits I seem to come across. Cialis is way better than viagra, as well, because it seems to be a more specific PDE-5 inibitor meaning that it SHOULD, in theory, have less negative side-effects. You should also take note of things like increases/decreases in penile tactile sensitivity and if you notice whether or not it takes longer to ejaculate. Needless to say, I'm following along VERY closely. HAHAHA!
 
Bionic said:
Sounds great so far, 10! I think moving up in dose, incrementally, is such a great idea. It seems that you found the sweet-spot at 15 in regards to effects/sides. I think the lowest necessary dose is the best strategy. I'm excited to hear what 20 mgs brings you. I also think that EOD is the way to go. Have you noticed more morning wood or was that ever a problem to begin with? The more I keep researching chronic dosing of this stuff, the more health benefits I seem to come across. Cialis is way better than viagra, as well, because it seems to be a more specific PDE-5 inibitor meaning that it SHOULD, in theory, have less negative side-effects. You should also take note of things like increases/decreases in penile tactile sensitivity and if you notice whether or not it takes longer to ejaculate. Needless to say, I'm following along VERY closely. HAHAHA!
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EOD? Anyway, I haven't had any morning wood yet. I haven't been getting it lately. I notice that the penis feels like it has a shell around it (like I can feel the tunica) when I'm hard. Also, this seems to help delay ejaculation. I've heard a few bad things about Viagra in the long term, but I haven't heard any about Cialis.

When working out yesterday, I don't know if it was just placebo, but I could breathe easier when lifting weights. Normally I'm straining for air when I'm lifting heavy, but I was pretty chilled when lifting 5 lbs heavier weight than I normally lift. It was like a 25% increase in oxygen intake. I've read where Cialis has this effect of allowing more oxygen to be taken in due to the vasodilating effects in the chest. It seems that Cialis can be healthy for smokers. On a side note, two nights ago when I blazed about 3/4 of a bowl from my bong, and I got higher than I normally do. Maybe this has to do with the lungs being more "open"? Just something interesting that I noticed.

It seems that you're pretty knowledgeable about ED medications. I love hearing about them from you, or anyone with the knowledge/experience.
 
EOD=Every Other Day. And no, I've never used any pharm. PDE-5 inhibitors, per say, although I plan to in the near future. I'm currently experimenting w/icariin and l-norvaline (although l-norvaline is an arginase inhibitor but does the same thing...BOING!) At any rate, I'm not experienced at all. I've just come across some studies that have piqued my interest. I'm always open to talk and throw around ideas, though.
 
Well good news. I just measured at 8.35 bp x 5.8 mseg! It just keeps healing and getting bigger. It is 7.8 in nbp length.

Anyway, I found an interesting video on youtube about how all this stuff works in layman terms:
YouTube - How Viagra, Levitra, and Cialis Work

It is funny sometimes looking at my erection after a few minutes of not being sexually stimulated because my CS totally deflates. I can spend a few minutes just smacking it and twirling it around and it's at 80-90% hard.
 
You most likely got more high because your liver's Cytochrome P450 enzyme family was occupied with the deactivation of Cialis, allowing more THC to run wild and free in your body. Any drug will tax the liver's ability to deactivate other drugs, which explains drug synergy, especially that of alcohol.
10inchadvantage said:
EOD? Anyway, I haven't had any morning wood yet. I haven't been getting it lately. I notice that the penis feels like it has a shell around it (like I can feel the tunica) when I'm hard. Also, this seems to help delay ejaculation. I've heard a few bad things about Viagra in the long term, but I haven't heard any about Cialis.

When working out yesterday, I don't know if it was just placebo, but I could breathe easier when lifting weights. Normally I'm straining for air when I'm lifting heavy, but I was pretty chilled when lifting 5 lbs heavier weight than I normally lift. It was like a 25% increase in oxygen intake. I've read where Cialis has this effect of allowing more oxygen to be taken in due to the vasodilating effects in the chest. It seems that Cialis can be healthy for smokers. On a side note, two nights ago when I blazed about 3/4 of a bowl from my bong, and I got higher than I normally do. Maybe this has to do with the lungs being more "open"? Just something interesting that I noticed.

It seems that you're pretty knowledgeable about ED medications. I love hearing about them from you, or anyone with the knowledge/experience.
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goldmember said:
You most likely got more high because your liver's Cytochrome P450 enzyme family was occupied with the deactivation of Cialis, allowing more THC to run wild and free in your body. Any drug will tax the liver's ability to deactivate other drugs, which explains drug synergy, especially that of alcohol.
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Interesting.
 
Cool! It seems that 15mgs. is your sweet spot. BTW, that's pretty good news on your larger measurements! Seems like you're onto something very interesting!
 
10inch, You heard anything about Aspire36 yet? I read that they were giving out free samples on bodybuilding.com. I got mine in today, but I don't know if I want to try it today or wait a bit. I don't think it would be that great to buy tho. They say 12 pills is a months supply, and it's $129 for 5 months supply. I saw a few posts say it worked as good as cialis, but I think you could get almost a years worth of liquid C or powder for that. If you still wanna get the free sample go to
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I've tried Aspire 36. I got the free sample and it didn't do anything for me. I posted my results on the board that I belong to and the owner, graciously, sent me 3 more samples to experiment with. I tried one alone on an empty stomach, again, to rule out that the first one I tried wasn't a dud. Again, nothing. Then I decided to double dose w/the last 2 samples I had. This double-dose, taken w/8oz of grapefruit juice (to enhance absorption) did work but I also got a low-grade headache and sinus pressure. So for me, it wouldn't be worth it to buy because of cheaper alternatives. Sucks though because 99% of the people that tried it, loved it with just a single dose. But Palo Alto Labs is a stand-up company and considering their generosity in sending me additional samples, I'll buy their other products.
 
Looking at the ingredients for Aspire36, i don't see anything that would make it anywhere near as effective as Cialis. It's contains the same junk as the typical penis enlargement pill... i wouldn't even waste my time on a free sample.
 
The only thing different is that weird japanese mushroom extract, and it's also a liquid capsule not a tablet,powder-filled capsule or softgel. The company has a pretty good rep on all the bodybuilding boards I've been too. They are supposedly the only importers of the mushroom extract in the US. I still haven't tried my sample. I might take it tomorrow and see what comes of it.
 
Sikk, it does work as described for as long as described but unfortunately, I needed twice the recommended dose w/gf juice but it did deliver for about 36 hours. And I believe that PAL said that they were the only US importers of Ophioglossum Thermale extract. I would only recommend it to someone that was worried about ordering traditional PDE-5 inhibitors from overseas or someone who would be traveling abroad and didn't have a prescription. Oh and from what I just read on a BB bard, the free sample offer is ending today or tomorrow. It's free, so give it a try and see for yourself.
 
If Ophioglossum Thermale is such a great/effective product, why is it that i can't find any studies with it on PuBathmateed or any other medical research site??
 
Dunno but there is definitely something to it. Do you still go to AM, Sikk? You're a member there, right? I'm pretty sure that's where I know you from. Anyways, you can go there and ask PAL directly. Oh and 10, so sorry to hijack your thread, bro!
 
I dosed with 15 mg yesterday. Today at the pool I had a constant almost-erect flaccid with my cock ring on and stimulating me. It was amazing because it wasn't going down. I have been hard for hours today. This is pretty much all the working out I'm doing with my penis as of now. Maybe I should keep on doing this cockring thing?
 
My line of thinking is if you're aiming to heal damaged tissues, you'd probably want as much oxygenated blood flow as possible and that a cockring may be counter-productive.
 
Bionic said:
My line of thinking is if you're aiming to heal damaged tissues, you'd probably want as much oxygenated blood flow as possible and that a cockring may be counter-productive.
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I only wore it for 30 minutes and then took it off. It's not like I wear one all day, although I could.
 
Well, yesterday was amazing. I must've been at least 1/4 hard for 6 hours or more, no lie. A few things seem to be happening. It seems that I am having more spontaneous erections the longer I am taking Cialis, like it has a negative tolerance. Also, yesterday I took 2 NOW Men's Virility Power pills instead of my normal 1, and that made me horny as hell! This kept me at least semi-erect for the whole day. Shit, during one stretch I was easily hard for at least 2 hours straight. I had to actually struggle to keep myself from getting erect when I went swimming. Walking around with my swim suit on felt very erotic, as it is pretty thin and doesn't hide anything! At some points I was laughing to myself because it was like I was having "safe" priapism.

One thing which really intrigued me happened this morning, however. I noticed that, with a full flaccid, my girth looked .25" thicker than normal. It honestly looked like I had just gotten out of a pump, although I haven't done any Penis Enlargement exercises in the past few days. This leads me to wonder if doing this alone will cause me to expand, especially in girth? I mean right now I can stay hard for hours a day if I want to. The girth increase just shocked me in the morning. It's gone now, but for a while it was a definite temporary increase in flaccid girth. Maybe this is like a "cheaper, more involved" caverject?
 
I bet it could have a good growth response if you were in your younger days of puberty, but I doubt that it would bring about any gains at this age (I could be wrong though). I think it definitely would be a good method for a decon break, and might even cause some "latent gains" to appear (caused by previous [recent] Penis Enlargement). I have taken Cialis in the same dose you have and have to agree with what you say about negative tolerance and the whole feeling of needing to constantly fight off getting erections, just like it was back in junior high :D

Just out of curiousity, you are at a private (backyard) pool, correct? Or are you strutting around a public pool sporting wood looking like the guy from the Enzyte commercial?
 
goldmember said:
I bet it could have a good growth response if you were in your younger days of puberty, but I doubt that it would bring about any gains at this age (I could be wrong though). I think it definitely would be a good method for a decon break, and might even cause some "latent gains" to appear (caused by previous [recent] Penis Enlargement). I have taken Cialis in the same dose you have and have to agree with what you say about negative tolerance and the whole feeling of needing to constantly fight off getting erections, just like it was back in junior high :D

Just out of curiousity, you are at a private (backyard) pool, correct? Or are you strutting around a public pool sporting wood looking like the guy from the Enzyte commercial?
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Nah man I was at a country club pool. Only when I was leaving did I really start to get an erection though. It was funny, because as I was leaving I had about a 1/4 hard on as I was crossing the street while this life guard girl was just leaving in her car. She had to stop to let me pass the intersection. I think she was looking at something in my pants the whole time. rofl
 
I dosed at 15 mg again today. One thing that I notice is that I can always feel all of my inner penis after taking Cialis. Like 6 or 7 inches deep into my body, I can feel all of the penis. I'm pretty sure that this isn't placebo. Has anyone else noticed this effect?
 
Well I took 15 mg of tadalafil four days ago and had a little priapism scare. I took 15 mg sublingually after brushing and rinsing my mouth with mouthwash, right before I went to bed. When I woke up I had a raging hard on. Thirty minutes later, still had a raging hard on, it never budged an inch. Almost an hour later (I was missing school now) I still had a rock hard erection that not even exercise was relieving. Finally it went down after much pleading with it (and some horrible images in my head). That was really intense, never had that type of experience in my life.
 
10inchadvantage said:
Well I took 15 mg of tadalafil four days ago and had a little priapism scare. I took 15 mg sublingually after brushing and rinsing my mouth with mouthwash, right before I went to bed. When I woke up I had a raging hard on. Thirty minutes later, still had a raging hard on, it never budged an inch. Almost an hour later (I was missing school now) I still had a rock hard erection that not even exercise was relieving. Finally it went down after much pleading with it (and some horrible images in my head). That was really intense, never had that type of experience in my life.
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wow this is bizarre shit.. I've once read that having a 3-4 hours erection is priapism isn't it? it's a dangerous state..
I wouldn't continue taking so much Cialis.. it can have some bad side effects and I think there is a chance these 3-4 hour erections may become permanent! :O
 
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