"No, they are tough collagenous fibers."

Damn.

"Really strange. There is no single structure that goes from the head to the pubic bone. The shaft goes under the pubic bone, almost to the anus. The ligs attach to the shaft/tunica toward the base, and then attach to the pubic bone."

That is strange. I've read others describe this, so I know I'm not imagining it or unique. It feels to me like it is attached to the bone, so maybe I have an unusual lig biology? I can't remember if it's always been like this, or maybe over time it developed. I once saw a site where they described "plaque" in the tunica albuginea, causing Peyrones, with the curve upward. Although I have always had a decent upwards curve, it's nothing excessive or severe by any stretch of the imagination.

"It may take much more than five lbs of stress though. Also, heat during the first half of your session will help. Then, no heat for the last half of your session to allow the tissues to cool in the extended state."

I'm only using 5 pounds to get used to hanging; only been at it for two weeks now. Once I feel like I am used to 5 and not getting sore, I'll move up to 10. When I do, I want to experiement with the shorter 20-30 minute once a day routine. My dick is very toughened from over 10 years of Penis Enlargement; manual stretching, jelqing, clamping, etc,...so I think the heavy but shorter routine may work better than a longer, lighter routine. I do heat for about 15 minutes prior and it gets very warm, then let it cool as I hang.

With the soreness I am experiencing, I think I might see some quick results. I haven't been this sore in a long, long time. I am pretty damn sore right in the base area on both sides and in the area you have described when hitting the ligs.
 
Bib,

in doing a bit more research, do you think it's possible it's the fundiform ligament? Or arcuate subpubic ligament? Medial Suspensory Lig?
 
Woodie,

>I'm only using 5 pounds to get used to hanging; only been at it for two weeks now. Once I feel like I am used to 5 and not getting sore, I'll move up to 10.<

Just move up 1-2 lbs per week. Not five. Give the soft tissues time to adapt.

>in doing a bit more research, do you think it's possible it's the fundiform ligament? Or arcuate subpubic ligament? Medial Suspensory Lig?<

Not if they go all the way to the head. The fund lig attaches on the sides of the PB, and wraps around the base of the shaft, making a saddle. I believe the subpubic lig is under the PB attaching to the tunica. And the MSL attached to the median PB and the top of the tunica.

It may just be that you cannot palpate the difference between where the ligs stop, and the fibers of the tunica and other assorted tissues of the shaft begin.

Bigger

Bigger
 
Thanks Bib. It may very well be I can't discern where one starts and the other begins. But if I had to bet my last dime, I'd bet it's all the same structure. When I warm up REALLY well, say for 30 minutes with a moist heating pad, it becomes extremely pliable, almost as if the CC collapses under any pressure. When I deeply massage from the base to the head, it's literally the only hard or solid structure I feel. It is discernibly the most rigid structure in my entire penis. There seems to be some smallish "bumps" along the length, so it's not completely smooth or round. I've examined many illustrations and cadaver autopsy photos, and from the looks of them all, I still can't determine exactly what it is.

Whatever it is, I'm going to (slowly) stretch the hell out of it and make it longer. I'm going for 9 NBPenis Enlargement, and 7 flaccid.

Thanks again.

WL
 
My LOT is anywhere between 8 to 6. There is NO pullback whatsoever. Is it odd to have such a long range of no pullback, or is my "real" LOT 8 beacuse that's where it starts?
 
Woodie,

>My LOT is anywhere between 8 to 6. There is NO pullback whatsoever. Is it odd to have such a long range of no pullback, or is my "real" LOT 8 beacuse that's where it starts?<

I am not following. You say there is no pullback, but then you ask if your real LOT is 8 because that is where it starts?

If you get a tugback at 8, but no tugback below 8, then your LOT is about 8. That is where your ligs engage, taking the stresses of the stretch away from your inner tunica.

This means you have a goodly amount of potential for gains from lig stretch, and should work the lower angles.

Bigger
 
The "start" of loss of tugback begins at right below the 8 o'clock angle and continues through all lower angles. From 9 o'clock angle up to 12, I have quite a bit of tugback. It is fairly strong at the higher angles.

This is what makes no sense to me. Like I've posted earlier, at the SU angle, I engage the "lig" or what we cannot identify, almost exclusively. It bears the brunt of the pull. I do feel this "thing" at the lower angles, but I also strongly feel the pull in the ligs along the side, where I do not feel them at the SU angle. When pulling at the lower angles, I get very, very sore along the sides near the base.

WL
 
Woodie,

>The "start" of loss of tugback begins at right below the 8 o'clock angle and continues through all lower angles. From 9 o'clock angle up to 12, I have quite a bit of tugback. It is fairly strong at the higher angles.<

Then your LOT is about 8. Having strong tugback from 9 up is fine.

>This is what makes no sense to me. Like I've posted earlier, at the SU angle, I engage the "lig" or what we cannot identify, almost exclusively.<

From your LOT test, you have proven it is not a lig.

>It bears the brunt of the pull. I do feel this "thing" at the lower angles, but I also strongly feel the pull in the ligs along the side, where I do not feel them at the SU angle. When pulling at the lower angles, I get very, very sore along the sides near the base.<

I just have no idea what it could be.

Bigger
 
If I had to guess what a ligament felt like, this would be it. Or a tendon. But since there isn't one that runs the length, I am guessing it is the septum of the tunica. I know I get sore on the sides, but an starting to get sore under my balls like you described earlier. Hopefully that's a good sign of growth.

Thanks for all the help.
 
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