Ive been doing Penis Enlargement for about 3 months now and i have gained a little bit and hope to gain more but ive been wondering, are the gains of Penis Enlargement permanent? I heard from someone who has done Penis Enlargement for 4 years that the gains are only temporary, he said that just like any other body part, after 2 weeks or so of not doing it, your penis goes back to its original size. Is this true? Does Penis Enlargement have to be maintained forever in order to keep the gains? I would appreciate it if someone would let me know because i dont want to keep putting in time and effort if my gains are just going to go away. Thanks in advance.
 
You have to 'cement' each gain, otherwise it will only be temporary. Once they are cemented I see no reason why they would disappear, unless maybe you really let yourself slide.

I wouldn't get into Penis Enlargement with a view of quitting though, it's good for general [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis health[/words] even if you decide not to be shooting for gains after you get what you want...
 
Cool_as_fcuk said:
You have to 'cement' each gain, otherwise it will only be temporary. Once they are cemented I see no reason why they would disappear, unless maybe you really let yourself slide.

I wouldn't get into Penis Enlargement with a view of quitting though, it's good for general [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis health[/words] even if you decide not to be shooting for gains after you get what you want...
How do i "cement" each gain? Please explain.
 
well, my understanding is that gains are permanent once they are cemented. on my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]dvd[/words], dld talks about cementing your gains by doing at least an additional 6 weeks of pe once you've reached your goal to keep those gains in place. once that's done you still might want to do some kegels and some jelqing for [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis health[/words] anyway but it's not really necessary to keep your size once it is cemented.

my way of viewing it is like this:

a newbie may experience gains relatively quickly. sometimes what seems like putting on actual additional mass may just be bigger erections and fuller flaccids due to improved bloodlow engorgement from stimulation while any actual gains are microscopic tears only noticeable and measurable once these have compounded sufficiently.

if enough actual cellular growth has occured you have permanence. if one just seems bigger from engorgement and there is no permanence then of course once the cause is gone so will the effect usually.

is atrophy possible? sure, although i think that loss of temporary gains is often mistaken as loss of real gains. to me a real gain is not temporary otherwise it wouldn't be the real deal. a lot of temporary gains are what are needed to pave the way eventually achieving permanence but are not the real gains in of themselves. temporary gains are like persuasions. a persuader pursues a goal by using certain tactics in order to manipulate a target into conforming to the persuader's desire. you are the persuader. your exercises are used to manipulate your penis to temporary states setting a condition where it will ruminate and if done enough and properly will conform to the new state.

people might make their penises actually grow AND have good [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis health[/words]. what happens once they stop what was making the penis healthy or begin with things that are detrimental is their penis will not perform optimally and as a results hinder good erections or cause less heavy flaccids and shrinkage and then they will think they have lost gains when in reality their penises are bigger than they were originally and their gains are still there only it is not functioning and in the condition it was in when "more" healthy.

my idea may well not always be the case and i'm not a scientist so anyone tell me i'm wrong if i am however i feel that it is valid.

in my case i have stopped for about two weeks now because of a bleeding injury yet i can still get into an A-stretch pretty well even though i only comfortably got into the A-stretch two to three weeks prior to the first bleeding incident on new year's day.

i hope this helps.
 
singlelongdaddy said:
well, my understanding is that gains are permanent once they are cemented. on my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]dvd[/words], dld talks about cementing your gains by doing at least an additional 6 weeks of pe once you've reached your goal to keep those gains in place. once that's done you still might want to do some kegels and some jelqing for [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis health[/words] anyway but it's not really necessary to keep your size once it is cemented.

my way of viewing it is like this:

a newbie may experience gains relatively quickly. sometimes what seems like putting on actual additional mass may just be bigger erections and fuller flaccids due to improved bloodlow engorgement from stimulation while any actual gains are microscopic tears only noticeable and measurable once these have compounded sufficiently.

if enough actual cellular growth has occured you have permanence. if one just seems bigger from engorgement and there is no permanence then of course once the cause is gone so will the effect usually.

is atrophy possible? sure, although i think that loss of temporary gains is often mistaken as loss of real gains. to me a real gain is not temporary otherwise it wouldn't be the real deal. a lot of temporary gains are what are needed to pave the way eventually achieving permanence but are not the real gains in of themselves. temporary gains are like persuasions. a persuader pursues a goal by using certain tactics in order to manipulate a target into conforming to the persuader's desire. you are the persuader. your exercises are used to manipulate your penis to temporary states setting a condition where it will ruminate and if done enough and properly will conform to the new state.

people might make their penises actually grow AND have good [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis health[/words]. what happens once they stop what was making the penis healthy or begin with things that are detrimental is their penis will not perform optimally and as a results hinder good erections or cause less heavy flaccids and shrinkage and then they will think they have lost gains when in reality their penises are bigger than they were originally and their gains are still there only it is not functioning and in the condition it was in when "more" healthy.

my idea may well not always be the case and i'm not a scientist so anyone tell me i'm wrong if i am however i feel that it is valid.

in my case i have stopped for about two weeks now because of a bleeding injury yet i can still get into an A-stretch pretty well even though i only comfortably got into the A-stretch two to three weeks prior to the first bleeding incident on new year's day.

i hope this helps.
Well, i want to gain an inch in length and girth so i can hit an even 8x6. I have been doing DLD's [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] for about a month or so, and before that i did another routine which i feel i didnt get anything out of. I feel like i have gained from DLD's routine because i started out at about 6.5-6.75x4.5-4.75(not sure exactly) and i am now at about 7x5. I think i can hit my goal by doing the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] for a few more months, but do you think i can cement my gains after i hit my goal by doing the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] for 6 more weeks?
 
RIPDime333 said:
Well, i want to gain an inch in length and girth so i can hit an even 8x6. I have been doing DLD's [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] for about a month or so, and before that i did another routine which i feel i didnt get anything out of. I feel like i have gained from DLD's routine because i started out at about 6.5-6.75x4.5-4.75(not sure exactly) and i am now at about 7x5. I think i can hit my goal by doing the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] for a few more months, but do you think i can cement my gains after i hit my goal by doing the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] for 6 more weeks?

sure, i think you can. if youve gotten what you want from the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] after all those months and haven't exhausted gains from it then keep doing it. if you need to go more advanced before you reach your goal, and that is possible, then go ahead and step it up. keep doing what works until you need to get more advanced.

okay so let me put it this way (im just painting a picture here); youre at about 7x5 you said. your goal is 8x6. lets suppose the penis grows in units of = and lets say you need to add another = before the previous = is cemented (numbers don't necessarily represent inches here. theyre just used to illustrate a point)

so lets say someone works up until:

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12345678

and stops. lets imagine it will have been enough work so that:

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1234567

is what is actually cemented. therefore shoot a little higher so that after you stop you fall into your goal.

maybe youd want to go until about 8.25-8.5 so that you will have cemented the 8.

i dont know if my ideas make sense but it's how i've figured it works and is eay to understand for me. also i don't think dld saying 6 weeks more for cementing is set in stone but is a guideline. you may need more, equal or less depending on you.

hope this helped too. im gonna crash now.
 
So what your basically saying is you should expect to shrink a little once one stop. Going from 8.5" to 8", but you will keep say the other 2" you have gained? Has anybody stoped for a year or so after working out for a year and kept gains? I haven't found any data on this yet.
 
drew21 said:
So what your basically saying is you should expect to shrink a little once one stop. Going from 8.5" to 8", but you will keep say the other 2" you have gained? Has anybody stoped for a year or so after working out for a year and kept gains? I haven't found any data on this yet.

that was my point, almost everything isnt permanent...Intelligence, vision, hearing all decline as you get older, stop lifting for a while you'll most likely loose some muscle (not necessairly true tho)
 
im2manly said:
that was my point, almost everything isnt permanent...Intelligence, vision, hearing all decline as you get older, stop lifting for a while you'll most likely loose some muscle (not necessairly true tho)


I agree here that vision and hearing decline with age, but not penis size and strength, necessarily. Remember that the composition of the penis is not quite like other muscle masses in the body. And of course, genetics is involved here as well. I never lost size or girth and I'm in my mid-sixties. Erection quality, yes, but not size and girth. And I've only continued to gain both since starting Penis Enlargement over two years ago.

Regarding "cementing" gains, I agree with what's been said about shooting for length and girth beyond a comfortable size goal. That way, when you cut back to a maintenance routine, you will probably lose some gains, but certainly not all of them. So, yes, some are made concrete with DLD's suggested six weeks beyond reaching your goal. Others are not. That is my experience.

I cut back too soon after making remarkable gains in BPenis EnlargementL after five months, which I regret. But to maintain the kind of intense, lengthy routine I was on is almost impossible for me. I know of several other guys here and elsewhere who made dramatic gains early on, and then lost some as well.

The one positive in all this is that my flaccid gains continued, both in girth and in length. My gut feeling here is if I cut back any more in my present routine, I'll lose some of my flaccid gains as well.

So, I'm experimenting with a comfortable maintenance routine right now, one that I can practice indefinitely. Whether I ever hit 11 x 7" (documented) is another question. Who knows???
 
ask your grand [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]pa[/words] if his dick shrunk
 
Don't you cement gains every time you have a session? Get what I'm saying?
 
swolejah said:
Don't you cement gains every time you have a session? Get what I'm saying?

you can do all you want its a physiological fact, it will shrink cells in your body shrink and are less in number as you get older, but why worry? all you need it for is now. besides im talking lie 10-20 years down the road
 
I know that my size decreases if I stop doing Penis Enlargement, but it does not go back to the original pre-Penis Enlargement size. This is true for me even with two years away from any Penis Enlargement.

Seven years ago, pre-Penis Enlargement, I was 6.5" BPenis EnlargementL x 5.25" midshaft girth. (5.9" NBP)

My maximum measurments while doing Penis Enlargement have been 8.25" BPenis EnlargementL x 6.25".

In the last four years, my size has never dipped below 7.75" BPenis EnlargementL x 5.75" (7" NBP) even with extended breaks from Penis Enlargement.

I keep coming back for more since I'm about 1" short on my ultimate goal length. The problem is that I"m satisfied with my current size, so motivation can wane. ;)
 
This is something that i have not understood since i started Penis Enlargement. Put it to you this way, before Penis Enlargement i was a solid 7 inches in length, after about 2 months i was 7.25, nbp, now on a good day im about 7.4, maybe a little shorter. Flaccid hasnt realy changed much, but it has improved. Now all i want to do is hit 7.5 inches in length, and after that maybe work on girth a little bit, and i sure as hell dont want to lose any of the gains once i hit my goals. I think i will always Penis Enlargement, i dont think ill ever stop because 1 its addicting and 2 it is sort of fun when your bored and got nothing to do. However, once i hit my goal, i surely do not want to be working out as intensely as i was or will be soon once my t-vein heals. I was doing about a half hour to 45 minuts a session before, sometimes even an hour. Would doing about 10-20 minuts total a day, be good for cementing and keeping gains throughout the rest of your life? Like 10 minuts of manual stretching and same goes for jelqs? I def do not want to be working out as long as i am now working towards my goals, and all i realy want to do is maintain.
 
im2manly said:
ask your grand [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]pa[/words] if his dick shrunk

My wifes has worked in an alzheimer's home as a care assistant for over 10 years and she has seen alot of old men and women in the nude,because of there state of mind some of the men will masturbate anywere,one thing she has noticed is the ones that fiddle with themselves have normal size willys when flaccid the ones that don't have shriveled up little acorns,use it or loose it.

Just to add in the time she has worked there she has only seen two really big dicks,one she said was big and the other was on an old gent in his 80s and she said it came 3/4 of the way down his thigh when on the slack and was very fat.
 
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