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Im sure someone has asked before, but how does the Bathmate offer permanent results, whereas other pumps only offer temporary gains. its kind of confusing. Can I really gain and never have to use this thing again if I choose? Seems way too good to be true
 
Well here is how I see it. Anything that can pull more blood into your penis than a normal will cause permanent growth eventually. The trick to pumping is being able to pump long enough without getting major fluid retention to where you have to stop the session before maximum expansion is achieved. Then manual work to really break down the internal structures of the penis will maximize gains. Pumping alone will not be likely to get seizable gains in a very timely manner
 
rebel2011;446355 said:
Well here is how I see it. Anything that can pull more blood into your penis than a normal will cause permanent growth eventually. The trick to pumping is being able to pump long enough without getting major fluid retention to where you have to stop the session before maximum expansion is achieved. Then manual work to really break down the internal structures of the penis will maximize gains. Pumping alone will not be likely to get seizable gains in a very timely manner

do you use Bathmate?
 
Ya I do.... well did. I've took off from girth to focus on length but I gained around 1/4 in girth with the Bathmate. It is a good tool and its fun and easy to use. I really feel the Bathmate is just a supplement for manual work. Im not saying that one wont gain with only Bathmate work but if used in conjunction with a solid manual girth routine I think the gains will be massive and fast. Just my opinion
 
rebel2011;446381 said:
Ya I do.... well did. I've took off from girth to focus on length but I gained around 1/4 in girth with the Bathmate. It is a good tool and its fun and easy to use. I really feel the Bathmate is just a supplement for manual work. Im not saying that one wont gain with only Bathmate work but if used in conjunction with a solid manual girth routine I think the gains will be massive and fast. Just my opinion

I totaly agree, wise words
 
rebel2011;446381 said:
Ya I do.... well did. I've took off from girth to focus on length but I gained around 1/4 in girth with the Bathmate. It is a good tool and its fun and easy to use. I really feel the Bathmate is just a supplement for manual work. Im not saying that one wont gain with only Bathmate work but if used in conjunction with a solid manual girth routine I think the gains will be massive and fast. Just my opinion

i do not think Bathmate is just a supplement i think most guys use it moderately, and not go full 30 min and 3 sessions per day...
 
I am by no means an expert but I feel like with my penis the Bathmate doesn't provide enough partial vaccume (there ya go max) to break the internal structure of the penis. When I clamp I get a better "expanding" feeling from inside my dick...and when I do manual methods I can feel alot more expansion. I can't actually feel my penis being stretched while pumping like I can with manual work.

Now I do think one will gain only using the Bathmate but I feel that many newbies think its a miracle device that will pack on 1 inch girth gains in a few weeks or months. Yes some people might see gains this fast but it is not the norm. Its like dlds newbie gains. Yes I believe he made them and I think some others might see gains that fast but it is most certainly not normal. I know when I first started my expectations were set way to high because of these success stories.

Im not trying to take anything away from anyone....I wish I could have maxed the herc out in a few months but I also want to give people especially newbies a more realistic idea of how much they will expect to gain. Being frustrated because everyone seems to get huge gains when all you can manage is 1/16 or maybe 1/8 sucks. What I realized is 1/8 inch is huge!

Sorry kinda got off topic
 
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rebel2011;446446 said:
I am by no means an expert but I feel like with my penis the Bathmate doesn't provide enough partial vaccume (there ya go max) to break the internal structure of the penis. When I clamp I get a better "expanding" feeling from inside my dick...and when I do manual methods I can feel alot more expansion. I can't actually feel my penis being stretched while pumping like I can with manual work.

Now I do think one will gain only using the Bathmate but I feel that many newbies think its a miracle device that will pack on 1 inch girth gains in a few weeks or months. Yes some people might see gains this fast but it is not the norm. Its like dlds newbie gains. Yes I believe he made them and I think some others might see gains that fast but it is most certainly not normal. I know when I first started my expectations were set way to high because of these success stories.

Im not trying to take anything away from anyone....I wish I could have maxed the herc out in a few months but I also want to give people especially newbies a more realistic idea of how much they will expect to gain. Being frustrated because everyone seems to get huge gains when all you can manage is 1/16 or maybe 1/8 sucks. What I realized is 1/8 inch is huge!

Sorry kinda got off topic

until you are using Bm for six months or more you cannot counsel others!

DLD took 10 years to get where he was so i think my gains with the herc are fucking awesome!

Routines cannot be abandoned because you want a quick fix!
 
Yea alex your gains are epic! I don't know if anyone else has gained as much as fast as you did... dan has made incredible gains also. Im not trying to take anything away from what you have achieved my only point is 99% don't gain that fast. Dld gained 2 inches of length in the first 6 months using his newbie routine... u have gained like over an inch with mostly Bathmate work! Its crazy and most wont gain that easily or quickly. It is a fact that most people myself included wont gain much from using the Bathmate alone. Most users will grow but it is usually very slow with just Bathmate work....but if that same user couples Bathmate with a solid manual routine the potential for gains is much greater and is much more likely to happen in a timely manner before frustration sets in.

I think some people need very intense stimulation to grow while others need longer durations. The trick to gaining is to find what works for you. Every user has a different scenario and must adjust his workouts to what works for him. Once you figure out how to push the limits in the correct way...either with very intense or with long duration or a combination...the gains will come. This stuff does work. There is no doubt with prolong use one will make a larger penis. The question is how to make the most efficient use of time.
 
rebel2011;446456 said:
Yea alex your gains are epic! I don't know if anyone else has gained as much as fast as you did... dan has made incredible gains also. Im not trying to take anything away from what you have achieved my only point is 99% don't gain that fast. Dld gained 2 inches of length in the first 6 months using his newbie routine... u have gained like over an inch with mostly Bathmate work! Its crazy and most wont gain that easily or quickly. It is a fact that most people myself included wont gain much from using the Bathmate alone. Most users will grow but it is usually very slow with just Bathmate work....but if that same user couples Bathmate with a solid manual routine the potential for gains is much greater and is much more likely to happen in a timely manner before frustration sets in.

I think some people need very intense stimulation to grow while others need longer durations. The trick to gaining is to find what works for you. Every user has a different scenario and must adjust his workouts to what works for him. Once you figure out how to push the limits in the correct way...either with very intense or with long duration or a combination...the gains will come. This stuff does work. There is no doubt with prolong use one will make a larger penis. The question is how to make the most efficient use of time.

I get your frustration but most guys are not hardcore pumpers, they include Bathmate as some sort of 10-15 min exercise and do not do it 3 times a day for 25+ or 30+ minutes in total, be that in sets or one pump session!

You have to understand that once you do that there is not much time for anything else plus your penis looks like it went through war so you just massage the tissue after and wait for another session!

There are pumpers in ���� and they do not know 700 DLD special exercise they only pumped and gained!
 
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