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Just wondering because i think i have always trained my ligs, i never used to stretch up to or past my waist?

What are the best stretches (manually) and hanging to target this?
 
bulc9 said:
Just wondering because i think i have always trained my ligs, i never used to stretch up to or past my waist?

What are the best stretches (manually) and hanging to target this?

As far as the LOT theory is concerned, any stretch that is above your LOT is tunica specific. Stretching could be upward rotaries, simple upward or angular stretching above your LOT, A-Stretches at high angles, etc. As far as Hanging goes you will want to do OTS stretches or any other high angle hanging (hardly makes sense when you consider gravity:D) I suggest reading over LOT Theory thoroughly as Bib is very clear on his descriptions of angular effect.
 
I'm really questioning the LOT theory.

DLD, have you done a lot of upward stretching? I'm thinking this theory came out after you made your big gains, so I'm wondering if you actually targeted this at some point in your Penis Enlargement career and if you got anything out of it.
 
doublelongdaddy said:
As far as the LOT theory is concerned, any stretch that is above your LOT is tunica specific. Stretching could be upward rotaries, simple upward or angular stretching above your LOT, A-Stretches at high angles, etc. As far as Hanging goes you will want to do OTS stretches or any other high angle hanging (hardly makes sense when you consider gravity:D) I suggest reading over LOT Theory thoroughly as Bib is very clear on his descriptions of angular effect.

Dint you gain loads without use of the LOT theory DLD, i might be wrong but im sure you said that all your gains came without the LOT and you didnt really use it?

Im currently covering all the angels with the manaul stretches, do u think the A-Stretch would be a good addition for my routine?

What is hanging OTS? I am guessing it could be Over The Shoulder?? How on earth do you do that?

Did you get my PM DLD? Sent you one the other day, but dont know if your PM thing isnt working? Cheers
 
I may need a refresher on LOT vs hanging angle. I have a high LOT (~10 - 11) and thought that meant I should hang BTC. According to DLD, to hit the tunica I should be OTS not BTC.
 
I think the LOT theory was introduced after DLD Blasters became a part of hanging. I was used as an example in the original theory (as were a few other guys) and this may have been a way to explain my gains. During my entire program I stretched without regard to LOT but after it was introduced I was curious if it had any validity. When I checked my own LOT I had found that I supposedly had no more potential in LIG gains. This proved to be incorrect in my case as I tested the theory by only doing downward stretching and I still made consistent gains. After doing my own experimenting many guys were coming out of the woodwork reporting gains through exclusive tunica stretching. This, again, sparked my attention and I decided that whether or not the theory was completely true was of no importance. Based on average user input it was definitely helping men. This is when I decided that every one of my routines would carry equal stretching between tunica and ligs.

When a theory comes out that suggests gain potential, especially from a Penis Enlargement genius like BIB, it is of no contest wether the theory is 100% accurate, the focus should be put on a possible positive outcome, especially when the theoretical addition to a routine is very simple. It is like covering all bases. The newbie routine covers every possible angle, this means that wether you have a low LOT or a high LOT you will be hitting what you need to.
 
Thanks for the input DLD, i never really understood the LOT even after reading it. It was very interesting tho. I will have to read it again to try and get a better idea.

My routine at the moment is AM and PM

AM - Manual stretches followed by jelq
PM - 1 Hours hanging followed by jelq

From your expereince and after your above post, is this enough to gain consistently, would it cover enough to gain from ligs and tunica? Would you change anything or add anything in DLD? Just want your ideas and advice as you are the Penis Enlargement great and as you develop exercises would be great to hear your comments and help me as i havnt gained for ages and want to get back on track... can you help with routine please mate?
 
Thanx DLD. I was getting in a bit of a rut with hanging SD/BTC with 15lbs for 4 x 15 minute sets (1 hour total). I think maybe I'll do 15 minutes each in 4 diff quadrants (12, 3, 6, 9 o'clock) and hit it from all angles.
 
My LOT was 6 and when I first hung I did SD and BTC and I gained something like .25". After that I didn't gain really. Now I exclusively hang OTS, SO if my roommate leaves.
 
I believe in the LOT theory, but I always get the feeling people get somewhat confused by it.

What the LOT theory says (or this is how I see the whole deal anyway) is that:

- If you stretch below your LOT, you will be putting stress on the ligs , which is what you should aim for becouse ligs stretch easier than tunica. The lower the angle you hang, the most focused to the upper ligs, which could give the fastest gains. (note: you will ALWAYS put at least some stress on the tunica unless you grab your penis at the base to stretch)

- If you stretch above your LOT you will not be putting enough (if any) stress on your ligs, so you will be stretching mostly tunica. The higher the angle you hang, the most focused to the whole tunica. By this I mean at certain angle and higher you will also be stretching the inner tunica (your inner penis).

Key point: stretch above your LOT for tunica, below it for ligs. The bigger the difference between your LOT and hanging angle, the more focused pull to whatever you are trying to stretch.


So how would I explain a portion of DLD's gains if he hanged (or stretched) at low angles with a very low LOT? I say he stretched his outer tunica, that is, he stretched mostly the penis portion that was already outside his body.


If you want to understand the LOT theory, search for BIB's diagrams somewhere on the forum AND test it on yourself. Hang BTC, then hang SO, then OTS, in all cases until you feel the fatigue. You will realize where your ligs are, and what I mean by inner and outer penis.


Homework for you: Can you raise your LOT?
 
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What are the overall best positions for hanging and stretching and what exericses target the outer tunica like DLD did?

Can anyone post some hanging positions up with explanations or pics like how to do OTS and all the rest of them rather than the simple SD!

With hanging and manual stretching, will this be enough training to target all the areas needed to gain?
 
Get one of these from B&Q screw it to you table or ceiling and start hanging.

You might not be able to get these one's anymore because i brought them all:D just kidding last time i went they have changed the design so it will look a little different.

It is used to hang plant pots up in the garden.

 
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Bundles, U-stretch, and a/v fulcrums. Also, for hanging, you can attach your componant to the bed-frame and use your body weight to stretch SU, or as pando mentioned "the pulley set-up" for SO and SU.
 
The BTC Killer said:
Bundles, U-stretch, and a/v fulcrums. Also, for hanging, you can attach your componant to the bed-frame and use your body weight to stretch SU, or as pando mentioned "the pulley set-up" for SO and SU.

When im hanging now i do them sitting down, standing up and lieing on the edge of the bed with my legs in air on wardrobe so it dangles down.

Bed frame?? where or how do you do that? are there any videos you have done BTC where i can see these in action? what are a/v fulcrums?

I tired to stretch Straight Up with the weights over my shoulders, but it didnt work too well.

With what i am doing at the moments as i explain above, is that enough to target the correct areas to gain consistently??????
 
bulc9 said:
When im hanging now i do them sitting down, standing up and lieing on the edge of the bed with my legs in air on wardrobe so it dangles down.

Bed frame?? where or how do you do that? are there any videos you have done BTC where i can see these in action? what are a/v fulcrums?

I tired to stretch Straight Up with the weights over my shoulders, but it didnt work too well.

With what i am doing at the moments as i explain above, is that enough to target the correct areas to gain consistently??????

A bed post, mate, one of those boards that's at the front of a bed. You just sling the weight over one of those. Also, while holding weight on your shoulders is a bitch, I can generally tolerate it if I need to be walking around or something.
 
Ha, thanks Pandora, ill try and find out in B&Q, hopefully they have some in reserve and you havent got them all ha.

How do you explain why you have a pully system under your desk? See i live with me parents and i cant think what i would say to them explaining why i have it under my desk.. This is to hang SO isnt it.

Still unsure how im going to hang OTS!!!

My bed doesnt have the posts at the bottom of the bed either so dont know how i am gonna do these, but i want to add SO and OTS in my 1 hour hanging routine in PM but really dont know how i am going to do or explain it!

Any simple ideas how to do it, the pully is a good idea just explaining it! lol
 
bulc9 said:
Would you change anything or add anything in DLD?

Basic Stretching does hit all areas (Lig/Tun) so that looks great. Hanging for an hour, if you want to be consistent, should be split between Lig/Tun. I also like the idea of dual-jelq sessions. Looking good!


Wilma Dikvit said:
Thanx DLD. I was getting in a bit of a rut with hanging SD/BTC with 15lbs for 4 x 15 minute sets (1 hour total). I think maybe I'll do 15 minutes each in 4 diff quadrants (12, 3, 6, 9 o'clock) and hit it from all angles.

Very smart. In my opinion, with penis enlargement, covering every angle of stretch is smart, better safe than sorry.


Chi said:
So how would I explain a portion of DLD's gains if he hanged (or stretched) at low angles with a very low LOT? I say he stretched his outer tunica, that is, he stretched mostly the penis portion that was already outside his body.

This would only be partially true if LOT theory was an axiom and I say partially because nothing is 100%, even when it's proven. Keep in mind that I not only hit low angles, I also trained above my LOT quite a bit.

Can you raise your LOT?

I did a post on this a few years ago (I believe you can as it happened with me) I will dig it up.


bulc9 said:
What are the overall best positions for hanging and stretching and what exericses target the outer tunica like DLD did?

Again all angles as it is better to be safe than sorry.
 
doublelongdaddy said:
Basic Stretching does hit all areas (Lig/Tun) so that looks great. Hanging for an hour, if you want to be consistent, should be split between Lig/Tun. I also like the idea of dual-jelq sessions. Looking good!.

When you say i should be split between Ligs and Tun, do you mean when i am hanging or in general?

So if you mean when i am hanging i should rather than hang SD, vary is a bit and hang in different positions to split it up between Lig and Tun?? Is that what you ment DLD?

So in other words hang SO, SD, OTS etc etc? then that would make gains consistent and at a good speed?

Just want my routine to be 100% and for you to give it the go ahead! If in doubt ask... thanks
 
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