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Anyone ever heard of this thing? It's called the "MPT" Maximum Pelvic Trainer for men. I stumbled on this device that you do kegels with and it has the option of adding weights to it. How effective do you all think this actually is? Other than sticking this up your ass, it seems like it could be good.

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LOL yea. Basically what it does is go in and out as you do the kegel. The weights attach to the base. I've recently been searching for ways of work the PC muscle outside of the traditional way. I was not expecting this.
 
Why not just use weights on your penis while you kegal? Or stretch? Or anything other than this?
 
Yeah, just hang it from your dick and "kegel" against it = weighted kegel. Better then shoving that donkey dick kegel pin up your ass lol.

Seriously..This product trains your anal sphincter and as a side effect your kegel muscle.
You want to train BC and IC muscle(check anatomical picture).
With woman they basicly have the BC and IC muscle too around the vagina where something inside kegeling with it makes sense.
These "inventors" are confused for real lol.
All this product might accomplish is avoiding defecating while training IC and BC muscle in the novice PE. (anal lock :p)
And of course beeing tight for you lover up that alley.

I wouldnt put that thing in my ass. I dont trust the phony guy with his bleached hair and triumphing "its in!" smeary smile lol.
 
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i think its not really hard to do kegels naturally.....even here doctors are minting money i guess....
what id there to do in kegels??? its the simplest exercises in PE
 
I like to lie down while masturbating to �naked people movies� and lay an open magazine or book over my dick and flex it up and down. Very effective.
 
Yea I really had no plans on doing this. Nothing wrong with doing them the traditional way as that's what I've always done. I was just venturing out and seeing the other, possibly more effective, options out there. Never thought of placing something on top and just doing it that way. That sounds like a good idea.

I'm also trying to get into doing some core exercises. I beleive there was a thread on here somewhere that had some really good info with pics I beleive which talked about this.
 
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pedud;630678 said:
Never thought of placing something on top and just doing it that way. That sounds like a good idea.
You can work the muscles from both angles too. You can place a wet towel or something over the top of your shaft and then the lying on your back with a book move works by placing the book over the bottom side of your shaft. And these are done while fully erect or mostly erect.

Just thought I'd clarify in case it wasn't clear.
 
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I think this product, "Male Pelvic Trainer (MPT)" is nothing more than Women's Kegel Weights, except it not 100% inserted. The company sells it as a Kegel Intensifier, to accelerate the process of developing muscle tone in the pelvic floor. Higher the resistance, the more increase in developed strength.

I recall a few years back, a member was taking the kegal exercise to the next level and inserting an object (not sure what) in his anus and using kegels to maintain its position. Training is training, some just have different and unusual methods to get the results
 
Funny, I'd written half of a post on this subject to another thread last week, had to run out, and then later on (after writing the other half) it said the 'session cookie' expired and it ate my post. Nom Nom Nom. <:( Was too pissed to re-write it at the time..

A regular Kegel will accomplish a little more tone and power in the muscle, but really it's only 'flexing' the muscle ... no increasing added resistance, no range of motion. It's better than nothing, but only because nothing is a poor competitor.

Picture trying to make to make your biceps muscle any bigger, or much stronger, by just 'flexing' it. -- It'd be better than nothing, but only just.

[For bodybuilding competitors for example, 'flexing' is a finishing move ... not an exercise]

There's nothing special about the pubococcygeus that makes it better at this. Usual muscle rules apply:

- Force/activation and recruitment of 'motor units'.
- Range of motion.
- Muscle confusion (don't do the same thing all the time)
- Progressive overload.

There are three parts to the Levator Ani diaphragm, the pubococcygeus (PC Muscle) only being one of those .. and probably the transversus perinei is also involved. The whole thing forms a sling or hammock between the legs, weaving in and out of all the interior and exterior bits down there (along with five or six other muscles that seem to not be involved for our purposes). Further, the front of the hammock series is the really relevant bit .. and that's not the same in everyone, there's even arguments to name the forward section its own thing called the Levator Prostatae. If we develop PC work to another level here, we might want to adopt those more specific nomenclatures.

Back to the limitations of just flexing a muscle .. Now there's another problem that you supposedly can't automatically know in what hip position your version (because they can be different) of all the those muscles is going to be best-activated.

ie - Standing (or lying down), .. Sitting, .. or Squatting. So the argument is to do PC exercises in all three positions.

This might be useful as well and it's similar to the above positional info. There's an additional safety measure I use when doing squats at the gym (or deads, or lifting anything heavy randomly outside of the gym) -- that's 12 plates with no wraps, no belt, no spotter, so this isn't beginner info -- and that's to activate (flex) as much of the pelvic diaphragm as I can .. and to hold that through the entire range of motion. ie - Flex the PC muscle while standing .. and then hold that flex while moving to the low squat position, and then back up as well, for all reps of the entire set .. which generally (for neurology reasons - of the whole body, not the 'PC' per se) should not exceed 45 seconds of total contraction time per set.

So ^ doing this over the course of a couple of decades I have a pretty strong PC, and testing it separately in the three positions this is what I personally find:

Standing - strong preferential activation of the forward (anterior) portion
Sitting - preferential activation of the middle ('medial') portion
Squatting - preferential activation of the 'rear' ('posterior') portion

... of the anterior Levator/PC diaphragm

I suspect everyone would find the same thing, but try it and see how it turns out.

The difference, for me, in the activation of the sections coinciding to how the hips are positioned is very obviously different. From that, I think I would definitely either train separately in all three of the positions .. or else determine which one or two positions might be primary in the desired effect and concentrate on it/them.

It would seem offhand that anyone 'doing kegels while driving' (etc) - ie sitting down .. are probably only really activating the middle section, and [again] only in a 'flexing' manner.

Adding a shirt or a towel across the top of the erect penis affords the ability to add a variable (and therefore also progressive) resistance. Start with whatever weight of item you can move without much effort, and then add reps, and then in a week or two increase the weight slightly, and then add reps, and repeat this process. You might find you have to be Very erect for this. If your penis is just bending under the added weight then you'll need to address your EQ before making any real gains with it.

There's also a way to add a range of motion, through a preloaded deflection of the 'hammock series' .. which would then move through a slight range of motion when activated as it resists this deflection and returns to being straight/taut. I'd looked around the web for such a thing the first time I wrote all this and found this contraption - The Kegelpad - . It's a bit pricey, but most things are. One might try to get the same effect from a tennis ball glued to -something-, or from a modified/reshaped 'yoga brick', etc ... but the kegelpad is bigger than it looks and pretty specifically shaped, so if you're trying to approximate it with kludgery then keep its size and shape in mind.
 
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I dont know what you guys are raving about the PC muscle. Its a part of the pelvic floor sure and has its use to train. PC muscle is more a prostata muscle.
But the BC and IC muscle is where its at for directly influencing the dick.
Bulbospongiosus muscle and Ischiocavernous muscle. These two are directly reponsible for the penis.
I guess most are training them when they think they are doing pc muscle work.


In the context of the thread I tought during intense pelvic floor training that something holding my ass closed without me focusing on it would greatly benefit the training or even sex.
Sometimes I push the muscles so hard for a raging erection that I feel like Im gonna shit and have to slow down while it feels I could push my dick even more.
 
Wouldn't just stretching the penis and flexing it be a tremendous boost to the practice of training the PC muscle?
 
Longth;631258 said:
Wouldn't just stretching the penis and flexing it be a tremendous boost to the practice of training the PC muscle?
yes, both relaxing and stretching. further stretch through relaxing and mroe musle strength through resisting.
 
dickerschwanz;630612 said:
Yeah, just hang it from your dick and "kegel" against it = weighted kegel. Better then shoving that donkey dick kegel pin up your ass lol.

Seriously..This product trains your anal sphincter and as a side effect your kegel muscle.
You want to train BC and IC muscle(check anatomical picture).
With woman they basicly have the BC and IC muscle too around the vagina where something inside kegeling with it makes sense.
These "inventors" are confused for real lol.
All this product might accomplish is avoiding defecating while training IC and BC muscle in the novice PE. (anal lock :p)
And of course beeing tight for you lover up that alley.

I wouldnt put that thing in my ass. I dont trust the phony guy with his bleached hair and triumphing "its in!" smeary smile lol.

hahaha yeah maybe that guy got one plugged up his arsehole while he is talking about the the product
 
dickerschwanz;631181 said:
I dont know what you guys are raving about the PC muscle. Its a part of the pelvic floor sure and has its use to train. PC muscle is more a prostata muscle.
But the BC and IC muscle is where its at for directly influencing the dick.
Bulbospongiosus muscle and Ischiocavernous muscle. These two are directly reponsible for the penis.
I guess most are training them when they think they are doing pc muscle work.


In the context of the thread I tought during intense pelvic floor training that something holding my ass closed without me focusing on it would greatly benefit the training or even sex.
Sometimes I push the muscles so hard for a raging erection that I feel like Im gonna shit and have to slow down while it feels I could push my dick even more.

Are there any specific exercises for the BC and IC muscles outside of working the PC exercises? I do a lot of driving for work, so I do the typical flexing routine while sitting. I feel more of a flex down there when I do the exercises so it feels like there's somewhat of a gain but, my main focus is working on things which are, as you mentioned, directly responsible for the dick.

Lots of great info guys. Thanks!
 
Longth;631258 said:
Wouldn't just stretching the penis and flexing it be a tremendous boost to the practice of training the PC muscle?

Simply Kegel as much as you can every day whenever you can, this is free and works just fine.
 
doublelongdaddy;631273 said:
Simply Kegel as much as you can every day whenever you can, this is free and works just fine.

You're not kidding. I've been kegaling so much I'm getting hard in an extender! And they're not exactly cozy when you have to squeeze into the sucker.

My dick is fat and my eq is crazy high. Woe is me.
 
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