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Hey guys, im fairley new to P.E... i know i the fact i joined the site a long while ago, but I never really got around to starting P.E off for real, I mean i did some jelqing and stretching for a few weeks, maybe a month tops and i even saw some slight gains, 1/8 th in girth and 1/8 th in length, although both could have been from EQ, anyway I took a few days and and then a few days turned into a week and so on, party due to being reallly busy and just not having time to losing motivation. Now, i seem to have some time on my hands and want to get into a routine or even just get something started, that i can follow through with but before i do anything i have some nagging questions i'd like to ask to anyone with some experiance, who has the time to answer them, and well the first question is.... is P.E permanent or do you start losing what you gain as soon as you stop doing P.E?.... i know that P.E is not a siimple as black and white, meaning that lig gains and tunica gains are different, the same with girth etc but thats the first and secondly.... i have quite a high erection angle and from what i have read on various posts, the suggestion is i have a lot of gains i could make from streching the ligaments, but what makes me skeptical about ligament gains are that they are ligament... which relates back in a way to the first question, meaning that are gains permamnent or as soon as you stop streching or hangining, will your ligs go back to the way they were?

Starting stats -- BPEL - 6.1 inches -- NBPEL - 5.6 TO 5.8 (hard to measure) -- MSEG - 4.5 inches,
 
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see for permanent gains....you will have to be consistent.....now suppose your goal is 7 inches...try to gain 7 1/2 inch so even if you loose you will still be at 7 ......now once you have reached your goal...u can slowly start reducing intensity and days .....till u reach a once a week PE....by then your gains will be cemented.....
 
If you cemented the gains then yea they are permanent..it's new tissue..new cells..you can't take that back.It's not like muscle.Once you made and cement your desire gains , you will want to do a maintenance routine....something once-twice a week just to keep your dick in a good shape.

As for motivation,nobody can motivate you expect yourself..remember why you started..when i start to lose motivation i just speak to myself ( lol ) : " do you like being average or you want to have a big dick?then put your shit together and start PE-ing " .Also less masturbation will help you..i think you know the effects of faping...i try to mastrubate 1-2 times a week or even less , if i cum i lose my motivation for the day..so i try to limit myself..masturbation is healthy and it's not a bad thing but it can destroy your motivation.
 
The first gains you get are temporary. And will eventually become permanent. Now lets say that i grow 1 inch and then cement it. (The tissue adapts to this new size) and then i do a quick grow spurt of another half inch. And then just stop.

I will most likely lose the last half inch.

Although losing half an inch will be in the rare cases as that is like accidentally gaining half an inch
 
Aimingforthetop;659525 said:
The first gains you get are temporary. And will eventually become permanent. Now lets say that i grow 1 inch and then cement it. (The tissue adapts to this new size) and then i do a quick grow spurt of another half inch. And then just stop.

I will most likely lose the last half inch.

Although losing half an inch will be in the rare cases as that is like accidentally gaining half an inch

cementing is something i would like to start whit if i get to the size im aiming for LOL any ideas suggestions of exercises ;) Hanks
 
cementing is a misunderstood concept as to being a certain type of exercises that needs to be done.

cementing is just the term we use for growth that is now permanent.

example.-

i workout for 2 months. and now i start being able to full force pull myself to 7.5 inches.

every workout i full force pull myself to 7.5

eventually i can get to 7.5 with medium force.

and one day with low force.

and eventually i can do it simply by doing edging exercises.

now the size went from being a pull size. to becoming something that can actually be archived without outside pressure.

next step is this size becoming what i just archive through normal erections.

and after some time. i will surpass this size and grow to even bigger sizes.

at this stage i will expect the size to be cemented.

now the funny thing is. that through this journey. all we did was the exact same workout everytime.,

we didnt change anything at all.

it is just the mechanics happening in the body.

a cemented size is the size you have gained where the body doesn't try and pull it back. (the body doesn't see this as new size anymore the body sees this as just the size.

and thats what we are aiming for
 
Motivation should come from the picture you have in your mind of what you want to become. Having belief in yourself and the PE process will fuel your motivation. Just think about it, if you used a routine like SRT and you keep consistent, you are going to get a much bigger penis...what is more motivating than that?
 
Philippians 3:14
I press on to reach the end of the race and receive the heavenly prize for which God, through Christ Jesus, is calling us.

Yea bro just do like dld says keep your eye on the prize. Its what keeps me jelqing
 
templnite;659845 said:
Philippians 3:14
I press on to reach the end of the race and receive the heavenly prize for which God, through Christ Jesus, is calling us.

Yea bro just do like dld says keep your eye on the prize. Its what keeps me jelqing

I am not quite sure the context of what Paul was saying is well related to P.E. ;)

Your motivation should come from the goals that you want to hit, combined with the testimonials and experience of the brothers on this board who have hit their goals. Stay active here posting and reading and it will keep you motivated as you see other brothers hitting their goals and making gains. Start a progress thread so people can track your progress too and help keep you accountable and give advice.

This is how to stay motivated for PE in my opinion. There is no better way than the brotherhood.
 
Oh ya we no, this isn't �other forum� where they bust out Rasputin's cock to pray to it; maybe take it out of the jar to lick once in while ya.
Everybody here has heard about Jesus.
 
That's nice to get off my mind, another mental hurdle that's outta my way I guess, right then, for getting started, what do you recommend for a starting platform, whats a good routine to get going, plus does body type affect gain time ? always wondered about that ? if your a mesomorph or more onto one end i.e ectomorph or endomorph ? and I am relatively a skinny person and quite low body fat.. mostly due to training regularly, something round the 9% - 12% range, im guessing that's a positive right ? .... ooh yeah and what type of physical exercise helps p.e and which hinders gains... meaning strength training and weight training, or long runs in the morning... I notice some shrinkage during training? is that a bad thing?
 
HM1;659902 said:
That's nice to get off my mind, another mental hurdle that's outta my way I guess, right then, for getting started, what do you recommend for a starting platform, whats a good routine to get going, plus does body type affect gain time ? always wondered about that ? if your a mesomorph or more onto one end i.e ectomorph or endomorph ? and I am relatively a skinny person and quite low body fat.. mostly due to training regularly, something round the 9% - 12% range, im guessing that's a positive right ? .... ooh yeah and what type of physical exercise helps p.e and which hinders gains... meaning strength training and weight training, or long runs in the morning... I notice some shrinkage during training? is that a bad thing?

I don't think body type effects gains per say, but it effects you seeing them sometimes. Low body fat and healthy physical exercise means a body that is in-tune with repairing tissue due to physical exercise and that is important. Any exercise that increases testosterone would be a positive in my opinion.
 
JakeM82;659876 said:
I am not quite sure the context of what Paul was saying is well related to P.E. ;)

Agreed and a beautiful verse at that!
 
just wanna say Thanks for the replies guys, didnt expect so much help haha but thats cool then i guess all thats left is a routine to get me started, the last few times a tried to give P.E a go i used the DLD Phase 1 routine and it was awesome, well as long as i did everything which was kind of hard to fit all of it into one day, plus in the mean time ive actually ruptured a tendon in my left wrist... happened about 4 months ago and its still in healing so i cant really jelq with my left hand so that kind messes up the girth side of it.... any suggestions on a suitable replacement for jelqing to help girth?
 
Get a sea clamp and do some clamping. Its a very good exercise and doesnt require strenght from both hands
 
HM1;659989 said:
just wanna say Thanks for the replies guys, didnt expect so much help haha but thats cool then i guess all thats left is a routine to get me started, the last few times a tried to give P.E a go i used the DLD Phase 1 routine and it was awesome, well as long as i did everything which was kind of hard to fit all of it into one day, plus in the mean time ive actually ruptured a tendon in my left wrist... happened about 4 months ago and its still in healing so i cant really jelq with my left hand so that kind messes up the girth side of it.... any suggestions on a suitable replacement for jelqing to help girth?

If you can grip with the left hand then you can do SlowSquashJelqs, a much more effective girth exercises. Starting on the Newbie Routine is good if you still have gains that can be made there. The next routine should be SRT as this routine will bring gains faster than any other. It is also smart to read through SRT now as it has information that can be implemented now on gaining and healing.
 
Hmm thanks guys, ill give the SSJ's a try and replace them for jelqing in the newbie routine and see how that goes, one question though is that ive always thought you should try to work up exercises in terms of intensity like a ladder of sorts so the beginner in my case should start off with the basics and then when ive gained what i can and maxed them out then move on the to more intense exercises and routines and work my way so i can get maximum gains out, if I start with SSJ's wouldnt i not be missing out on gains from less intense exercises ? because SSJ's are intense my penis would grow back bigger and stronger, but also to strong for normal jelqing to have any gains ? im probably wrong haha but it was just something that popped into my head, i always think that the more knowledge you have the more efficient you will be i guess in your journey.
 
HM1;660547 said:
Hmm thanks guys, ill give the SSJ's a try and replace them for jelqing in the newbie routine and see how that goes, one question though is that ive always thought you should try to work up exercises in terms of intensity like a ladder of sorts so the beginner in my case should start off with the basics and then when ive gained what i can and maxed them out then move on the to more intense exercises and routines and work my way so i can get maximum gains out, if I start with SSJ's wouldnt i not be missing out on gains from less intense exercises ? because SSJ's are intense my penis would grow back bigger and stronger, but also to strong for normal jelqing to have any gains ? im probably wrong haha but it was just something that popped into my head, i always think that the more knowledge you have the more efficient you will be i guess in your journey.

Hmm you're not wrong..it may be true....if you're a begginer ,why do you want to replace the jelqs?You don't get any expansion from the normal jelqs or what?SSJ are better than normal jelqs but as you said,start up slowly...if you follow the beginners routine stick with the jelqs for a few months and then replace them ( or combine them ) with SSJ...jelqing is such a great girth exercises...classic,simple to do,efficient..works really good for me.
 
ChilDsh;660552 said:
Hmm you're not wrong..it may be true....if you're a begginer ,why do you want to replace the jelqs?You don't get any expansion from the normal jelqs or what?SSJ are better than normal jelqs but as you said,start up slowly...if you follow the beginners routine stick with the jelqs for a few months and then replace them ( or combine them ) with SSJ...jelqing is such a great girth exercises...classic,simple to do,efficient..works really good for me.

Men should always start gentle and progressively build up the intensity as they continue. I would not say that any one workout is better to start with than another, what matters most is that your penis can handle it and it is gainful. I usually suggest the Newbie Routine for a few weeks and then migrate into SRT. But if someone is gaining on any one routine then it should be continued until gains cease.
 
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