Illusion question???? Long/Thick

Hey guys. I hope I am putting this in the right spot but it is something that has been making me wonder here lately. For one, I am not in my best of shape right now. Holding some bodyfat in the "fat pad" area so of course that is going to make it look smaller. So I know if I lost some weight that would help me out tremendously.

But, my main question here tonight is, if you have a little more thickness than normal, will it make your length look less than what it is? I think its yes, but wanted to confirm it with you guys. For instance, my penis measures Erect 7 inches bp. My length is 5.6. But it just doesn't look that big in the mirror or on video. I am 5'8 and I weight about 217, but its 80% muscle. Does the proportion of my penis width/length make my penis look smaller to the human eye? When I look down at it at times I get depressed because it doesn't look like I think it should, or it looks like it should look much bigger with those measurements.

So if it was 7 inches like it is, and only 4.5 inches thick would it look longer? Or is it because its' 7 inches and 5.6 it just looks shorter because of my body size? And yes I do have big thighs and a pretty nice set of glutes. Does that cause a major factor in the way my penis looks?

Thanks for the help guys.

I don't have any bodyshots, but I do have a couple of penis shots. So if that would help than let me know.

Peace
VG

For instance the other day I was taking a piss and I noticed that the toilet paper roll was empty. So I removed it. I was looking at the toilet paper roll holder and thought ok, that looks like its got "some" length. At I wanted to compare it without the roll on it. Looking down at my penis I thought there was no way it would be longer than the holder itself from edge to edge. So when I got an erection I compared it and my penis was indeed a little longer from the very beginning to the very end. So that gave me a great deal of confidence. But the roll holder is skinny, and my penis doesn't look to me that long. But it was.

I see these guys in �naked people movies� on these videos and I notice that they are usually very skinny. Is this what makes them appear larger? I have been lifting weights for years now. I am very strong in the lower body area which has made me develop big thighs and larger than normal glutes. So when my lower abdomen ties in with my glutes it makes me look thick in this area. I am hoping this is what is causing the imbalance.

Let mek know what you guys think.

I think in this case its just that you have a massive lower body dude. In all cases I've heard the girth contributes to the look and feel of a "big" penis. Next time your with a girl just take a gander at how it looks simply in her hand/mouth/vag./etc..You will probably feel better about it. Just look at REDZULU, he has 8 bpel, but 7 in. girth, and while the girls probably have a heart attack when they see his girth, probably none of them would ever say it's short. In my case I have great length, but not so good girth, but during my clamp sessions when I get above 6 in. girth I definitely feel like my penis looks longer and thicker when in fact it is only thicker at the time. Hope this helps you.

See. I dunno, I take the opposite approach of bIgjOe. When I look at Red's pictures, he doesn't look all that big to me, because yes, visually, we do to automatically compare length and height to make an estimation of size. It's why kids will take a tall glass over a thick glass when both have the same volume. Rest assured, however, that at 7x5.6 you're far from small.

Of course, there are a number of other reasons why you might think yourself small when you see yourself.
-First, and most logical, you're simply used to your size. I wear size 13 shoes, but they seem average to me, because they're what I have and what I see everyday.

-Second, and also logical, you're looking at this thing from a distance. Imagine how your significant other feels though when he/she is eye to eye with the thing.

-Third, you're comparing yourself to __________, which is never a good thing. Yep, he's fun to watch, but it's like comparing your physique to Superman, it's an almost unatainable ideal, or at least, mentally so.

-Forth, you suffer from something known as Body Dysphoria. However, since you don't seem altogeher 'dysphoric' at the thought of your body, that's kinda doubtful.

Here's my suggestion if you want to reassure yourself about your size: Get out a sheet of printer paper, a ruler and a pencil. On the paper mark off seven inches along the top, and five and a half (for simplicity) inches along the side. Cut the sheet down to that size (7x5.5). Now roll it up and tape it together, so it forms a cylindar.

You now have, sitting in front of you, a rather accurate representation of the size of your cock. Bigger than you thought, I bet.

Hope this helps,
-Harm-

~Laughs~ Read your post again, I have a feeling I was rather off base with the above comment.

Yes: The size of your lower body could Easily contribute to your visual distress. To elaborate on something I said above: We often take the size of the piece and put it in the context of the whole. What I mean by that is this: When you think about an elephant's leg, it doesn't seem all that big, because compared to the elephant, it isn't. But if you were to look at the leg by itself, stand next to it, etc., it would seem massive; because you would no longer be taking the elephant as a point of reference, but yourself.

Of course, you could cut, but since you've been lifting for a while I doubt you're too fond of that option. Or you could go the route that some people on this forum do and try to achieve and novelty penis. That's all well and good too, unless you lose some weight/mass in the future, 'cause then you're 5' 8" tall with an 8' 5" cock.

I would say try to get yourself up to the 'mythical' 8"x6", take some photos and see how you feel about it. Until then, don't sweat it, because most people care less about how a cock looks and more about how it feels, y' know?

-Harm-

I think comparing yourself to other objects can make you feel better, although I try not to compare myself to anything becasue I usually end up feeling bad. Illusions are a big part of the way things look because of the surroundings. Whenever I come on her and see pictures of other people penises they look huge to me. Then I see the ruler next to them and think, wow I am the same size or even bigger. But everytime I look atmyself in the mirror or in my hand it looks so small. Comparing penis size without a ruler is near impossible because of the size difference of the surroundings. I hope to get to the point where my penis is 8" and if it doesn't look like it, so what. I can always measure it for proof.

bIgjOe said:

I think in this case its just that you have a massive lower body dude. In all cases I've heard the girth contributes to the look and feel of a "big" penis. Next time your with a girl just take a gander at how it looks simply in her hand/mouth/vag./etc..You will probably feel better about it. Just look at REDZULU, he has 8 bpel, but 7 in. girth, and while the girls probably have a heart attack when they see his girth, probably none of them would ever say it's short. In my case I have great length, but not so good girth, but during my clamp sessions when I get above 6 in. girth I definitely feel like my penis looks longer and thicker when in fact it is only thicker at the time. Hope this helps you.

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Great length Joe, amazing length and girth gains.
Did you get the length from hanging with the BIB?

Also just try looking at from the side as much as you can bend that way. Mine always looks bigger like that as opposed to a straight down look. My wife took a pic of me laying on the bed from the side. I was really happy to see the picture. I looked like 8". Its all perception. Thats why �naked people movies� movies usually ,nowdays, use a lens that slightly exagerates the center of the picture bringing it closer. It makes things look huge. Same with wrestling on TV. Some of those guys arms look bigger than their bodies when doing close camera interviews. But we all know that isnt true.

dogsdoodahs said:

Great length Joe, amazing length and girth gains.
Did you get the length from hanging with the BIB?

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I gained about 0.5-0.6 in length from the Bib hanger, and it really jacked my base girth. The rest was from wet jelqs and manual stretches.

"I am 5'8 and I weight about 217, but its 80% muscle"


if you are 5'8' and 217 and its 80% muscle,my brother you'd better be benching 350 with no problem,and atleast 217.i'm pretty muscular myself and i'm 5'10 185 and can lift more then my weight with relative ease.

pepepe said:

if you are 5'8' and 217 and its 80% muscle,my brother you'd better be benching 350 with no problem,and atleast 217.i'm pretty muscular myself and i'm 5'10 185 and can lift more then my weight with relative ease.

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HUH? ?

When I look at Red's pictures, he doesn't look all that big to me, because yes, visually, we do to automatically compare length and height to make an estimation of size

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Really? I'm surprised but dont know why.
I'm 6ft tall and slim.


Now in response to the thread, I think that the thicker you are the smaller your length will look, just peep at my pictures and you'll see what I mean.
I'm 8 inches BP erect length and over 7 inches in girth yet my girth size is seen easy as massive but the length doesnt look 8 inches IMHO and only like 7 - 7.5 inches because of the massive girth but rest assured its a real 8X7 penis made a dream come true via NPenis Enlargement. My best advice you is take some shots of your penis next to fag packs, mobile phones, small tins and than after months of pe retake and compare and than you'll see the change better as opposed to them against a ruler. I used a Max-Extender and a Right guard spray can in my pix to illustrate my size, and nextime I intend to use something larger and cover that. Raise the bar often and make it interesting so your mind will always look for ways to solve it, if that makes sense?

Thanks a bunch for your replies everyone. It makes me feel a lot better now.