Alcoholics Anonymous

I have been in and out of these rooms for years, 21 to be exact. I have found allot of support for more than just my addictive problems at AA meetings. I was at a meeting the other night and it really seemed like MOS to me, but in person. I think it is fabulous these meeting are available and the support is incredible. I have not remained sober for 21 years, sometimes it is tough for me to put 2 weeks together but I am always amazed that this support is available.

And that they always welcome you back with open arms.

I think that you seek help is admirable.

You know I wonder what with all the meds that are pushed onto us as if they are THE answer to all our problems and will lead us onto accomplishing our hopes and dreams that if people don't attempt to do something more traditional like seek support group help for addiction. Obviously I'm not talking about alcholism per say, but if you have found that you are continuously falling back into the addiction maybe try many new things that you never thought to try previously. If you have an addictive personality or addictive tendencies perhaps you'll latch onto something reinforceful. I mean hiking, roller blading, and other simple activities. Hell, an adult softball, basketball, league might help too. Whenever you are down in the dark search for the light and it'll guide you to something positive. You've taken steps toward coming out of the addiction now break away for good with one more high step. Imagine...you are an entrepeuner one day, a professional snowboarder the next. That might sound crazy at first, who knows for sure where life will lead you until you go for it and in this case I'm just talking about taking up several new and different hobbies/activities, but either way it only takes that first attempt to begin change. And anyone reading this...I'm basically saying to get help first and then once you are ready to move on, yet are still trying to stay sober, which is a lifelong battle for those suffering of alcholism for example then try to fill your life with positive things.

Hey DLD-

I recently came across this treatment you may be interested in: http://www.ibogaine.co.uk/. If you do decide to do this treatment I would love if you would tell me how it worked.

THanks,
LUke

That treatment is $4,000. I have purchased liquid Via/Cial from our sources and it works great. I know there are drugs available for alcohol addiction. I myself took CAMPRAL and it worked until a major family medical problem and then I fell back. Campral is expensive. There also is Naltrexone that is better, but even more expensive. I would like to find a source from our network for that?

Treatment is very expensive. Inpatient care will range from a few hundred to over a thousand dollars a day and usually last for 30 days or more.

redpubes said:

Treatment is very expensive. Inpatient care will range from a few hundred to over a thousand dollars a day and usually last for 30 days or more.

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Yeah pharmaceutical politics is fucked up, just some chemicals shot into a mold or dissolvable tube. I'd doubt it would even be any harder to make the chemicals then Aveda has making their shampoo. But they know that we're addicted to our health by their drugs.

Haha, here's a funny story: they found the antidote for the bite of the Tsetse fly that causes "sleeping sickness" in Africa, but wouldn't market it because no-one would pay for it. Then they found that the same chemical would help treat wrinkled skin, so now people with sleeping sickness can use the skin cream to get the antidote. I'm sure you would have to boil the stuff or something to get the other chemicals out.

doublelongdaddy said:

I have been in and out of these rooms for years, 21 to be exact. I have found allot of support for more than just my addictive problems at AA meetings. I was at a meeting the other night and it really seemed like MOS to me, but in person. I think it is fabulous these meeting are available and the support is incredible. I have not remained sober for 21 years, sometimes it is tough for me to put 2 weeks together but I am always amazed that this support is available.

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I have the same story DLD. 22 years for me. I had 18 years solid clean time.
So what triggers the first one for you? I know what triggers me to drink.
I don't tolerate marxist or feminists. I like old fashioned girls.
As long as I protect my sanity and stay clear of a certain type of mind set I can have a beer or two without any problem. Also I had a personality core split at time circumutilation and had therapy sessions with a knowledgable
hypnotherapist. This manifested as drug and alcohol dependency and manic depression. Mostly gone now. I actually don't like having my thinking fogged now. Freddy putting on a new Fender. (I'm restoring my foreskin)

P.S. Took a show of hands at a few men stag meetings. 99% percent of the men were cut. should be 65% if cutting wasn't an issue.

I slipped for the past 2 months< Got up to a pint of vodka daily (before, 7 years ago, it was more than a 5th daily) This is so hard to say, believe me I know how crappy this looks. I decided to stop today, had my last shot at around 5:00 pm (just to help with the withdrawals) I can't believe a beer can turn into this, it blows my mind. This is my 4th try at sobriety. I am already feeling the withdrawals. I do have a full bottle of Lorazepam which should help with the next few days.

I feel so shitty about this, thoroughly embarrassed. I really thought I could handle it:s It started out great but it went from good to bad to worse. I have allot of willpower when I decide to do something and I know I can beat this. My admitting this to you guys is a big step. I have no one I can really tell.

I do not look forward to the next few days but I will get through it. I am going to start to attend meeting again (once I get the guts)

I look forward to the support I know you guys will give me.

doublelongdaddy said:

I slipped for the past 2 months< Got up to a pint of vodka daily (before, 7 years ago, it was more than a 5th daily) This is so hard to say, believe me I know how crappy this looks. I decided to stop today, had my last shot at around 5:00 pm (just to help with the withdrawals) I can't believe a beer can turn into this, it blows my mind. This is my 4th try at sobriety. I am already feeling the withdrawals. I do have a full bottle of Lorazepam which should help with the next few days.

I feel so shitty about this, thoroughly embarrassed. I really thought I could handle it:s It started out great but it went from good to bad to worse. I have allot of willpower when I decide to do something and I know I can beat this. My admitting this to you guys is a big step. I have no one I can really tell.

I do not look forward to the next few days but I will get through it. I am going to start to attend meeting again (once I get the guts)

I look forward to the support I know you guys will give me.

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That's not good. moderations.

From one alcoholic/addict to another, you're not alone. Welcome back, brother. I'd pick you up and take you to a meeting if I lived near you. It takes a lot of courage to admit defeat. This disease is cunning, baffling, powerful, and you and I know that it is not a question of will power. We are powerless over it. You can't beat it. First you must surrender to it.

You know they'll welcome you back with open arms. It's a disease of isolation. Reach out to your brothers and sisters in the rooms. You're already back on the right track by sharing with us.

Yeah, You are going fine. You decided to grow bigger penis, and succeeded. Decide not to take an drink , You can do that too .. No big deal , just leave the shit , don't drink. It's painful and terrible a few day , but not too hard, just remember to eat decent meals , drink a lot of fruit juice, milk or water. Tea sweetened with honey is also good, important to get enough fluids and keep blood-sugars high enough..
Be prepared not to sleep so well for a few nights, nights are mostly the worst, when as worst just remember what has caused this miserable sweating shivering feeling - the stupid messing around with alcohol.. Leave that poison witch causes stupidness to stupid people. Show yourself You got brains and can use em..
Show your body,and everybody else, - You are in charge, You decide of your habits . You are not a slave - the bottle doesn't steer Your mind and life.. Fight the shit and for every hour You are sober You proof yourself You can do it..
Keep it up , keep going , Go on with the good work. Keep pushing - You are our man !!!!

Wbrgds M

Well I have gotten past the worst of it, 48 hours and I feel great...Surprised

I thought it was going to be much more difficult but I had all the medications and Vitamins right here that they would have in the hospital. The Lorazepam was the most helpful and I just started on a healthy dose of Vitamin B. I still have the habit of going to the kitchen the second I get home but I think that will fade with time too.

The last time I kicked heroin (4 years ago) I did it cold turkey. Basically I locked myself in the house and just got through it (some Trainspotting Shit) but it meant, to me anyway, that I truly wanted to do it. Alcohol is a little more tricky because as soon as I feel as though I kicked I start to feel a bit too confident and it is a lot easier to score a pint than a gram. It is one minute at a time. I am keeping myself very busy, spending much time out of the house...believe it or not I hate drinking in bars, as a matter of fact I hate drinking with anyone. I prefer to drink alone...no one around to see I guess.

Still feeling a bit sick but I have been eating better, taking the vitamins and lots of water. You guys have seen me go through so much, it much be somewhat entertaining:D

Much love and respect

DLD (Mike)

Oh, one other thing, something very depressing for me is that it has not been 2 months as I thought. When I checked my Paypal Debit Card records I saw that this started back in the end of June! My God, how conniving this shit is.

Very conniving!!




Ah, yes, drinking alone!! The good old days!! I remember them well. Well kind of!!!



I wouldn't be caught dead in a bar!!! All I know is that I almost died from booze TWICE---the first time I picked up and the last.

That memory keeps it green for me.

goinfor11x7 said:

Very conniving!!




Ah, yes, drinking alone!! The good old days!! I remember them well. Well kind of!!!



I wouldn't be caught dead in a bar!!! All I know is that I almost died from booze TWICE---the first time I picked up and the last.

That memory keeps it green for me.

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Green is good, unfortunately I only see pale yellow It is a good fight...each time I learn more and more about myself. On my 4th day, feeling good, sometimes a little down but good overall. I hung around with an AA friend today and we talked quite a bit.

I have also refrained from weed and even my cigarette habit has dwindled to 1 pack every 3 days. Trying to eat good and I am still taking the Thiamine. I am on benzos for sleep (the Lorazapam) but I have mostly used them for the withdrawals over the past few days. I am prescribed 2/ .5 mg at night for bed but I have been taking 1 in the AM and 1 before bed and that has helped big time.

I feel much healthier and almost inspired to do more outward work.

I appreciate having you guys here...it is the best support group in the world!

Mike

Ahhh, I'm so glad. This is good!!

The only thing that makes me drink is when I go out clubbing just to see all them fine ass girls. drinkings bad tho, the only thing that makes it addictive for me. Is wanting to go out and pull some women. Get me some Pussy!

That's the normal response, P. The problem was I fell in love with the drink rather than the pussy!!

goinfor11x7 said:

That's the normal response, P. The problem was I fell in love with the drink rather than the pussy!!

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Well I don't like drinking that much anyway but I like Pussy. Why did they have to make night clubs, music and booze.