True Life: Im on steroids
I'm sure this is true, but what about my story? I couldn't gain size or strength until I gained 20 pounds of lard???? How else do you explain that?im2manly said:
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goldmember said:
being fat as a child, especially during puberty when your test is going crazy, is different then adding fat. I was 6'1ish 230-240 couldnt even bench half my body weight. You do need to something to work with, but odds are that when you added 20lbs of lard you probablly got a ass load of protein and if you eatalot of steak you got some creatine and glutamine. Even now i think my test levels are low. I got practically no facial hair, and i am a big pacifist (not very aggressive)...you'd be suprised at how many people think they can fuck with you when your 300+.
This is sad. You weight 350 pounds or whatever and are cut, you are an ass-kicking machine!! Don't take shit from these losers, shit on them!!im2manly said:
As far as the high protein, my diet remained virtually constant as far as protein and carbs. My dietary fat levels increased though. You are right in that I did add red meat (see, eat your red meat!). Not only does red meat have an awesome amino acid profile, but it also has more dietary fat, creatine like you said, but most importantly, a dietary fat called arachidonic acid. I can't figure out why more bodybuilders don't know about this one. Arachidonic acid is not an essential fatty acid (although it is only one conversion from lenoleic acid which is an EFA) but converts to prostaglandin family 2 very readily. This is awesome for bodybuilders who incorporate stretch exercises and high-rep (remember lactic acid?) exercises. Prostaglandins have a very pronounced local anabolic response, meaning the part that burns will grow if prostaglandin production is elevated (along with other anabolic conditions ie test, insulin, IGF-1, T3). Eating red meat will raise prostaglandin levels (watch out unless you are training though, these cause inflammation!!), and be partially responsible for muscle gains. So maybe you are partially right--maybe my weight gain was because of higher levels of DIETARY fat, and not BODYfat. I have heard both stories though, so I can't rule the other out. Good post im2manly!
If you are discontent with your passiveness and lack of facial hair, get a complete blood profile and check for IGF-1, T3, T4, TSH, estradiol, Total testosterone, free testosterone, cortisol, and fasting glucose. Also ask if they can check for SHBG, LH, and FSH, but they are less critical unless your two Testosterone levels (free and total) are low.
-If your fasting glucose level is HIGH, then you may have low insulin levels (signs of insulin resistance or maybe type I diabetes).
-If any of these hormones are low, chances are your IGF-1 levels are also low, and...
-conversely, if your IGF-1 levels are low (the most important anabolic hormone) probably some other important (listed) hormones are low.
I hope this helps.
-GoldMember
Read the previous post. I forgot to add that intense high-rep training and intense stretch training cause the production of series 2 prostaglandins moreso than any other form of trianing. That doesn't mean they are superior to other forms, but that you can bring up a lagging bodypart by incorporating this type of training.
To help boost prostaglandin series 2 levels, other than adding red meat, you can also eat egg yolks and add sesame oil, sunflower oil, and/or safflower oil to increase linoleic acid levels (one conversion step from arachidonic acid).
If you are really hardcore, skip all the diet stuff and just inject prostaglandins locally!!! (I'm serious)
To help boost prostaglandin series 2 levels, other than adding red meat, you can also eat egg yolks and add sesame oil, sunflower oil, and/or safflower oil to increase linoleic acid levels (one conversion step from arachidonic acid).
If you are really hardcore, skip all the diet stuff and just inject prostaglandins locally!!! (I'm serious)
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goldmember said:
Ok i got no idea if your being sarcastic with your opening sentence or what not, dont rememeber saying i was cut especially since i gave you those stats when i was 330.
Im not unhappy about facial hair as i do have some but i shave once a week at the earliest (and even then their is not a lot) and im not unhappy about not being aggressive or anything...infact i think its a good thing, cuz otherwise id prolly be in jail for assault. My point was that I think i do have low test, and i think being fatter as kid is a possible cause (im not blaming it, im just saying its a possibility). I think people should listen to their bodies and cycle everything and they will be fine.
Im2manly,i didn't start to get a full face of stubble until i was about 25-26 so don't worry about it,some signs of low test levels are,constantly feeling tired,low sex drive,difficulty getting erections,depression.
dee3186 said:
I doubt either of you at 19 will have low test levels,those are some of the symptoms but they can also be signs of overtraining.
Your best bet is to see a doctor,they can run blood tests that will show up any problems.
I thought you said somewhere you were accused of being a genetic freak on some bodybuilding board...my mistake. Anyway, get the blood tests to see if your Test is low instead of guessing.im2manly said: