True Life: Im on steroids
Cool, I saw commercials for that this last week, I will definetly tune in.
Has juice made your peace plus Pe grow any faster or larger,
what's your newest states since last june, how long have you been on the stuff. Guess I'll have to wait till tonight to see what's up.
I'll be sure to leave some comments on the next few days, let you know what I thought.
Has juice made your peace plus Pe grow any faster or larger,
what's your newest states since last june, how long have you been on the stuff. Guess I'll have to wait till tonight to see what's up.
I'll be sure to leave some comments on the next few days, let you know what I thought.
Im not on the show if thats what you thought i meant lol, i just think with all the talk about steroids on the forum lately it should be a good show,sweets said:Cool, I saw commercials for that this last week, I will definetly tune in.
Has juice made your peace plus Pe grow any faster or larger,
what's your newest states since last june, how long have you been on the stuff. Guess I'll have to wait till tonight to see what's up.
I'll be sure to leave some comments on the next few days, let you know what I thought.
Im thinking about taking them though need to learn more about them first, my stats are the same i havent been sticking with a routine.
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dee3186 said:
you dont need them...no one does...(well not no one but most people don't)
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dee3186 said:
What does your work out look like? Your diet? most people do reps from like 8-12 and expect to get big, so thats important and so is your diet
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dee3186 said:
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Bench 5x5 Squt 5x5 Deadlift 5x5 Barbell rows 5x5 and you can throw in military press if you want, but thats a lot. your reps should be between 3 and 6 and heavy
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that is some of the funniest shit i have seen in a while
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I hated the model guy because of his comments "yea they need to buy me a new machine" lol the gay guy needs to up his dosage or he got some bad shit or he was never on it and mtv was using him as a tool...and the fighter...well i just didnt like the fighter seemed like he faked his "rage" this was very very very very anti-steroid. I wont use steroids but this shit is so one sided
im2manly said:
You can get big doing 8-12 reps.
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prince Albert said:
if your just starting out, if your just starting out anything will get you big. This guy wants to bulk not cut...8 to 12 reps is more towards cutting then getting big
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dee3186 said:
He went from doing 4 plates to 2 plates on a seated chest press which is retarded. I dont believe I did not see any of them doing free weight exercises, i expected more outta zeus then that. The gay guy was just....just mad gay.
im2manly said:
Thats one of the biggest myths going,cutting is down to diet and cardio not rep range,regardless of how long you have been training various rep ranges will work,go on any bb forum and look at the routines section and you will see plenty of lads using higher reps to grow.
Higher reps in the exercises like squats and deadlifts will bring big gains, but you have to go very hard, like use a weight you would normally get only 15 reps with and get 5 (as I call them) death reps. It will be more of a cardio workout then you'll care to do. Also, do some grip work, like farmers' walks and bearhug walks and stuff like that.
It's funny that you bring up the old rep range argument. 8-12 reps is an EXCELLENT range if size is your main goal. 6-8 is probably better, but 8-12 is great for smaller movements, and 6-8 is better for compound movements (except squats, IMO).
But interestingly, that Rea guy says that high reps DO INFACT increase fat loss, not only because they burn more calories (compare a 1-rep max workout to a high-rep workout, even if not taken to failure). I suppose the lactic acid buildup increases IGF-1 production in the skeletal muscle...cool.
Seriously, if you can only train twice per week (this is fine) steroids will probably NOT help you very much. The advantage to steroids is that they allow you to train to a point which would normally be overtraining, shifting the balance from what would normally be catabolic (overtraining-induced catabolism) to anabolic. If you are only working out twice per week, you are not taking advantage of this new environment. I'm certain you would get better results than w/o steroids, but you would be wasting a lot of their potential (unless you train like Mariusz Pudzianowski).
I believe in order to use steroids, you should have a good 3 years of HARDCORE natural bodybuilding, with a perfect diet and training (be honest!). 3 years isn't set in stone, it should be where you reach a plateau and can no longer make reasonable gains from all the creatine, whey, dextrose, liver, and red meat in the world. This is of course just my opinion though. I have witnessed (and experienced) incredible gains from creatine alone (along with good diet, high calories, proper supplementation, etc.) but no steroids or prohormones. I'm talking 30 pounds in a year of pure lean mass (and definite fat loss as well!!), 2" on the arms, 4" on the chest, and nice strength gains. Personally, my favorite supplements are:
dessicated liver
whey
dextrose
ribose
sodium phosphate
creatine monohydrate
multi vitamin (high B)
vitamin C
glutamine
flax oil
Eat plenty of red meat. This can't be stressed enough! Eat about 2g of protein/lb bodyweight, about 110g fat, and atleast an equal amount of carbs as protein, preferably twice as much.
My best results came from training legs once per week (very hard)
calfs, abs, biceps, triceps and grip three times per week
chest and back twice per week
total workout of about 60-90 minutes and 4 times weekly (NO "cardio" unless cutting!! but the farmer's walk will still kick your ass!!!)
Get that huge whey, creatine, dextrose, ribose, etc shake in soon after your workout (within 30 minutes).
I dunno, this was probably too much info, but if you want any more, I'd happily give it to you.
It's funny that you bring up the old rep range argument. 8-12 reps is an EXCELLENT range if size is your main goal. 6-8 is probably better, but 8-12 is great for smaller movements, and 6-8 is better for compound movements (except squats, IMO).
But interestingly, that Rea guy says that high reps DO INFACT increase fat loss, not only because they burn more calories (compare a 1-rep max workout to a high-rep workout, even if not taken to failure). I suppose the lactic acid buildup increases IGF-1 production in the skeletal muscle...cool.
Seriously, if you can only train twice per week (this is fine) steroids will probably NOT help you very much. The advantage to steroids is that they allow you to train to a point which would normally be overtraining, shifting the balance from what would normally be catabolic (overtraining-induced catabolism) to anabolic. If you are only working out twice per week, you are not taking advantage of this new environment. I'm certain you would get better results than w/o steroids, but you would be wasting a lot of their potential (unless you train like Mariusz Pudzianowski).
I believe in order to use steroids, you should have a good 3 years of HARDCORE natural bodybuilding, with a perfect diet and training (be honest!). 3 years isn't set in stone, it should be where you reach a plateau and can no longer make reasonable gains from all the creatine, whey, dextrose, liver, and red meat in the world. This is of course just my opinion though. I have witnessed (and experienced) incredible gains from creatine alone (along with good diet, high calories, proper supplementation, etc.) but no steroids or prohormones. I'm talking 30 pounds in a year of pure lean mass (and definite fat loss as well!!), 2" on the arms, 4" on the chest, and nice strength gains. Personally, my favorite supplements are:
dessicated liver
whey
dextrose
ribose
sodium phosphate
creatine monohydrate
multi vitamin (high B)
vitamin C
glutamine
flax oil
Eat plenty of red meat. This can't be stressed enough! Eat about 2g of protein/lb bodyweight, about 110g fat, and atleast an equal amount of carbs as protein, preferably twice as much.
My best results came from training legs once per week (very hard)
calfs, abs, biceps, triceps and grip three times per week
chest and back twice per week
total workout of about 60-90 minutes and 4 times weekly (NO "cardio" unless cutting!! but the farmer's walk will still kick your ass!!!)
Get that huge whey, creatine, dextrose, ribose, etc shake in soon after your workout (within 30 minutes).
I dunno, this was probably too much info, but if you want any more, I'd happily give it to you.
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prince Albert said:
I was only talking about the workout part not the cardio or diet part which are most important. To think if you do 225 for 10 reps is gonna get you bigger then if you do 280 for 3 reps is just crazy...you dont train to run a marathon by doing sprints. Listen man If you want to get big keep the reps low and the weights high...best bet for range of 3-6 possibly singles and doubles once you have gotten more comfortable with it and time comes to cycle your workou
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lol this rep range questions reminds me of all the people i see in the gym....the skinny kid whos mad that hes been lifting for months and hes been doing reps of 10 to 12 and he wants to know why hes not gaining more wieght or getting wider or getting bigger in general...and then the big heavier kids wonder why they arent more defined when they ar doing 3 to 5 reps. You can say what you want, you can bring up what every juiced up expert and thats your opinion fine. But I am natural lifted for about 5 years, im only 19 and i can guarantee that I am bigger then most people on this forum and many forums for that matter...people make working out much more complicated then it needs to be..
Yeah you right because i was the skinny guy doing 10-12 reps because a big ripped guy told me thats what he do, but when i do low reps i dont gain either because the heavy weight after a while would make me strain myself and get injured, so now ive been tryin a new technique some one told me about 3-6 reps but with a weight that i can do the reps slow pulse at the top and hold for 3 seconds without straining to were i lose my form.im2manly said: