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Well I've been back at PE for 3 months now, and much to my surprise, I haven't seen a hint of growth (not a millimeter).

Currently I do 20 to 40 minutes in my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] 5 days a week. Sets are broken down into either 5 or 10 minute blocks with jelqing and edging in between. Then at night I do manuals for a minimum of an hour, sometimes 2. I stretch at every angle, do the mandingo stretch, A and V stretches, lots of direct lig pulling and a ton of downward stretching.

Now I've taken a week off before I restart, but I'm not sure what I need to do to see gains. Maybe the theory that you don't need rest from stretching only applies to certain men and I should go back and forth between girth and length days. Really not sure. I thought I'd definitely see some sort of change after 3 months of PE, 2 in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words].
 
dmoney101;619365 said:
Well I've been back at PE for 3 months now, and much to my surprise, I haven't seen a hint of growth (not a millimeter).

Currently I do 20 to 40 minutes in my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] 5 days a week. Sets are broken down into either 5 or 10 minute blocks with jelqing and edging in between. Then at night I do manuals for a minimum of an hour, sometimes 2. I stretch at every angle, do the mandingo stretch, A and V stretches, lots of direct lig pulling and a ton of downward stretching.

Now I've taken a week off before I restart, but I'm not sure what I need to do to see gains. Maybe the theory that you don't need rest from stretching only applies to certain men and I should go back and forth between girth and length days. Really not sure. I thought I'd definitely see some sort of change after 3 months of PE, 2 in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words].
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dmoney101;619365 said:
Well I've been back at PE for 3 months now, and much to my surprise, I haven't seen a hint of growth (not a millimeter).

Currently I do 20 to 40 minutes in my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] 5 days a week. Sets are broken down into either 5 or 10 minute blocks with jelqing and edging in between. Then at night I do manuals for a minimum of an hour, sometimes 2. I stretch at every angle, do the mandingo stretch, A and V stretches, lots of direct lig pulling and a ton of downward stretching.

Now I've taken a week off before I restart, but I'm not sure what I need to do to see gains. Maybe the theory that you don't need rest from stretching only applies to certain men and I should go back and forth between girth and length days. Really not sure. I thought I'd definitely see some sort of change after 3 months of PE, 2 in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words].
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This is a great workout and should bring gains quickly, the most important part is to stick with it and keep good records of changes. This is much more than you have ever done before so I hope it really pans out for you. As far as rest goes, in the past you have never really needed rest and you have been able to withstand some training that most could not, so I think a no rest workout would be smart in your case.
 
I'm not so sure. 3 months is a long time to see no difference. At one point in my PE career I made some gains exercising every other day and that was low intensity. I might go back to that and see if it helps. I know my eq is way better since I've taken this week off.
 
Yea, EQ often gets better once you stop doing girth work (and vice versa). At least this holds true for many guys (incl. me>had to take a 2 month break recently because of an irritated vein. After I had restarted girth work EQ almost immediately lessened again. Kegels don't help here).
Other than that I share your intuition that you should modify certain variables if you haven't seen any results after 3 months of hardcore work. This is some lesson I learned from many years of strength training (though it might be that one can't transfer experience values to PE 100% but still: it's a common appearance in every field where you try to force your body to adapt to certain stimuli that you have to change things if your recipe won't work). If you got good results with lower frequency and intensity then try to go from there and see where it takes you. I'm a strong believer in the principle of flexible adaptation strategies, which also means that in some cases more doesn't help more by any means.

btw: what's your primary goal? length or girth? or both?
 
My goal is an inch in both length and girth. I was thinking of it from a bodybuilding perspective too. Since I'm an ectomorph, my body needs more time to recuperate when I work out. I'm wondering if the same principles will apply to penile tissues as they do muscles.
 
dmoney101;619787 said:
My goal is an inch in both length and girth. I was thinking of it from a bodybuilding perspective too. Since I'm an ectomorph, my body needs more time to recuperate when I work out. I'm wondering if the same principles will apply to penile tissues as they do muscles.
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especially if you made some gains doing every other day you should give that another try. on your rest days use [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]UJW[/words] to heal elongated. did you do that before when you were doing your every other day training?
 
It's strange. I too am seeing little gains and I'm pumping and doing other PE harder than ever before. Might be a good time for us to get back to basics?
 
dmoney101;620031 said:
I'm gonna go high intensity like I was before, but do it Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.
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i feel you man sometimes i just dont have the motivation and i cant find it,i try to exercise at night but im stressed and tired but once i try things can improve a lil
 
youknowme123321;620037 said:
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Probably not. I may wrap every once in a while but I don't think it helps that much.
 
dmoney101;620042 said:
Probably not. I may wrap every once in a while but I don't think it helps that much.
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Plateaus happen sometimes, so I agree with DLD, just keep going. And switching up your routine is a good thing. And I dunno if this happens with everyone, but in my experience the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] stunted my length work in terms of stretching. sometimes I would lose my motivation to stretch because I had a big ass thick pump and then I would masturbate. But more importantly I feel like I'm not getting nearly as good of a stretch when I have a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] pump chub. And if I pull harder to match the intensity of what it feels like without the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] chub, it just ends up hurting my pumped up glans. I try to do my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] separately when I'm not stretching
 
wakingdream;620049 said:
Plateaus happen sometimes, so I agree with DLD, just keep going. And switching up your routine is a good thing. And I dunno if this happens with everyone, but in my experience the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] stunted my length work in terms of stretching. sometimes I would lose my motivation to stretch because I had a big ass thick pump and then I would masturbate. But more importantly I feel like I'm not getting nearly as good of a stretch when I have a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] pump chub. And if I pull harder to match the intensity of what it feels like without the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] chub, it just ends up hurting my pumped up glans. I try to do my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] separately when I'm not stretching
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Do you mean to say at different times of day, or different stages of development ie a length cycle?
 
youknowme123321;620046 said:
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hope this change up in routine works for you. what will you do with all that extra free time lol? hopefully post a lot in january and get a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words]
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It does help flaccid hang quite a bit, but it's such a hassle lol. I need to start working out, so maybe I'll hit the weights on the days I don't PE. That would work nicely.
 
dmoney101;620064 said:
It does help flaccid hang quite a bit, but it's such a hassle lol. I need to start working out, so maybe I'll hit the weights on the days I don't PE. That would work nicely.
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It is a PITA!!! I find I'm too tired after lifting to do anything crazy, so I usually pump, clamp and edge... Maybe you could do something like this and hit PE on rest days? New thread, lifters that PE?
 
BornInFigi;620053 said:
Do you mean to say at different times of day, or different stages of development ie a length cycle?
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Different times of the year, in my opinion. But I know this isn't necessarily true for everyone
 
dmoney101 said:
Well I've been back at PE for 3 months now, and much to my surprise, I haven't seen a hint of growth (not a millimeter).

Currently I do 20 to 40 minutes in my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] 5 days a week. Sets are broken down into either 5 or 10 minute blocks with jelqing and edging in between. Then at night I do manuals for a minimum of an hour, sometimes 2. I stretch at every angle, do the mandingo stretch, A and V stretches, lots of direct lig pulling and a ton of downward stretching.

Now I've taken a week off before I restart, but I'm not sure what I need to do to see gains. Maybe the theory that you don't need rest from stretching only applies to certain men and I should go back and forth between girth and length days. Really not sure. I thought I'd definitely see some sort of change after 3 months of PE, 2 in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words].
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2 months is too little a time to look out for bathmate gains. I'm currently at the end of the 4 month of doing both length and girth work and I don't intend measuring at all.

You need a length master to make gains come faster and you also need to wrap the penis to stay elongated at all times to enable it heal in an elongated state. This will help bring gains faster.
 
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