Tbone - ANS (All-Night-Strecher) or Anti-turtle device

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hey.. guys..

I would like to share my ANS (All-Night-Stretcher) or Anti-turtle device. I prefer to look at this method as an Anti-turtle instead of [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ANS[/words].

I am afraid to use high tension GearKeepers. For this reason, 12 oz retraction force is more than enough to avoid turtling during my daily 8 hours sleeping.


These are the following devices you will need.

a) VacHanger 3 (autoextender dot com) (you might have to purchase the complete set, because if you only purchase the cylinder, it comes without the tubing/clamps.)

b) GearKeeper (my model is RT2-0032)
- 12 oz Retraction Force
- 60 lbs Breaking Strengh
- 20" Extension
(gearkeeper dot com) or ebay dot com

Attn.: There are many models, but I prefer use the light tension. (I love my penis) :-)

c) The connector name between VacHanger and GearKepper is "S-biner", you will be able to find on HomeDepot.

d) The bed bungle cord is from thegripsystem dot com, but you should be able to use any cord to attach the vachanger/gearkeeper to your bed.

e) the pinch clamp is available on ebay/amazon.

I've been using this Anti-turtle device or [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ANS[/words] during 8 hours night sleeping since September, and never had any blister, swallow or edema.
Actually, I only had a little bit of edema 2 times in 3 months because I was doing physical exercises with
the device attached to my penis in my bed.... LOL "What a retard"...ahaahah

I sleep face down, on side right/left, on my back easily without any problems. This method is much better then [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ANS[/words].

Here is my procedure:

1) I insert my penis inside
2) I do not suck the air out using the vacuum tubing.
3) I use 2 pinch clamp to make sure there is not air coming out through the vacuum tubing.
4) Roll back the new [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] large size FDA approved down on my penis
5) That is it!!! :-)
6) I do NOT use cone ring, fluid tape or [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] condom.

Attn.: My advice is to set your clock to 30 min to an hour to take a nap during the day till you get use to this method. Keep in mind,
we all have different penis, and they react differently .. what is good for me, might not be good for you. So please use your BRAIN and run some test before you decide to sleep with it attach to your penis daily.

Like I had already mentioned, I've been sleeping with this device for over 3 months without any problems, and this method "in my opinion" and "for myself" is much more comfortable and reliable then sleeping with [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words].


Attn.: I will be sharing my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]All Day Stretcher[/words] device method device next week. (there is nothing original about this method, but I think is worth sharing with you guys again)

Here are the pictures.:

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Prices on everything? Ouch, $89 for just the suction cup??? Do golden glove wearing elves make them? I'm always encouraged when I see stuff like this selling for a lot more money!
 
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What do you not like about the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]? This seems really expensive and also a bit of a hassle to cobble it all together.
 
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Expensive,? It is $89.00 for the basic package not just a cylinder. LG Hanger is $ 245.00 and Bib Hanger is $ 130.00.
Please keep in mind that our moderator was sharing a video & pics regarding his vachanger 3 experiences and nobody was being negative. And when I mentioned that I am using vachanger 3 for something else instead of hanger. He wanted to know about it. So I am just trying to be helpful to my colleagues in this forum.

VIDEOS & PICS - VacHanger3 - First Time Use

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...ics-vachanger3-first-time-use.html#post625274



Also, I am not promoting or selling any PE devices and neither I am brainwashing anyone to follow my method. !!!

What is wrong with [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words]? There is pro and cons with [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] like any PE device in the market. Many people in the PE communities already requested an extra large [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] cylinder, and Orbisan company “phallosan maker” is still ignoring their customers. So I had NO choice then to figure out my own All Night Sleep device. J In my point of view, the best PE companies are the ones who are listening to the PE communities and providing great customer service, and so far, “in my opinion” nobody from orbisan is providing this service at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words].

Also, everyone should keep in mind; I paid $364.00 (with shipping) for my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] a year ago, so I should have the freedom to provide the pros and cons of this device. L

Here are some pics when I woke up this morning. You will see pics after I slept 8 hours with vachanger 3 and then I took a nap with [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] wearing a condom. Otherwise, my penis would not get inside the large [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] cylinder without condom. You see, take a look on my edema after only 1 hour with [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words]. I was always getting edema with [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] with or without condom during sleeping hours. So, here are my reasons, why I am not sleeping with [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] anymore. Once again, we all have penises that react differently to each PE device, so if you are ok with your [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] during night sleeping – please keep using it. You do not need to spend your hardworking money trying different methods. J I am still using my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] with [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]Tugger[/words] belt during the day.

A pic of my glans after I woke up this morning.

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the remaining pics is 1 hour nap with [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]

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Attn.: Once again, I was sharing my anti-turtle method or [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ANS[/words] because the moderator wanted to know about it.

Folks, have a great day :-)
 
Thanks for your thread, very informative and gives less expensive options to the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words]. It looks like you put a lot of effort in to this so I thank you for that.
 
Thanks for the post man, it looks like a well thought out idea. That being said, and I am not trying to be negative towards you OP, but I am still firmly against any type of PE while asleep. It is just too risky IMO to be worth it.
 
Thanks Boohoohoo.. I also respect in your opinion.

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hey guys the price of the GearKeeper is around $20.00 at eBay.
 
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doublelongdaddy;625343 said:
Thanks for your thread, very informative and gives less expensive options to the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words]. It looks like you put a lot of effort in to this so I thank you for that.
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Thank you DLD. I know some folks are afraid wearing PE device [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]All Night Stretcher[/words] even though my method looks like more an anti-turtle device. It is just 12oz..

12oz = 340.194 grams

12oz = 0.340194 kilograms

12oz = 0.75 Pound

This is nothing.!! Furthermore, I used to wear [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] for 1 year during sleep hours at night without any problem besides edema sometimes. So as you all can see, 1 year [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] + 3 months Vachanger 3 sleeping time for 8 hours at night. This is a total of 15 months. My penis is still handsome as ever before.

To clarify my method to some of my colleagues here. Everyone should keep in mind, this is not something new. There are 2 famous PE companies that their users have been sleeping with their devices for a long time, and so far, I haven't heard anyone lost their penises.

Examples:

VITALLUS PLUS

vitallusPLUS


Lasting penis enlargement with regared to length and circumference

Regular use of the vitallusPLUS® for 6 to 8 hours daily over at least 3 to 6 months leads to a lasting enlargement of the penis in terms of length and circumference. vitallusPLUS® can be comfortably used at night during sleep.
[words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]PHALLOSAN[/words]

FAQ - PHALLOSAN® forte

Can I wear [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Forte[/words] night?

According to the latest tests [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]PHALLOSAN[/words]® [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] can be worn when sleeping. If natural erections may occur several times at night the condom will stretch to accommodate them. Blood circulation is not impeded.

I believe the Germany regulatory healthy institutions had already investigated those claims, and as far I know about the German culture. They would not allow these companies misleading their customers. Moreover, FDA approved the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Forte[/words] device and condoms.

In my case, the (tbone method), the vachanger cylinder is large then [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] cylinder to accommodate those users who have a large penis, and is impossible to the condom to cut blood circulation. In addition, the oxygen your penis needs during the sleep hours is received through other parts of your body. For this reasons, I believe this method with vachanger and [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] attached to a Gear Keeper is safe, unless if you girlfriend use the Gear Keeper to strangle you during your sleeping hours. :-)
 
boohoohoo;625356 said:
Thanks for the post man, it looks like a well thought out idea. That being said, and I am not trying to be negative towards you OP, but I am still firmly against any type of PE while asleep. It is just too risky IMO to be worth it.
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I can understand your reservations. What are your thoughts on people like the OP and myself (i use PF) who do it successfully?
 
great thread! Thank you for sharing. I have been in nice warm weather down south all weekend so I will have to take a better look when i can keep my eyes open and retain what I read and fully get your set up lol. people talking about price of things is always interesting. many active forum members often say things are to expensive. but even more probably don't. And as you alluded to...some seem to really be against higher PE tool pricing b/c of ulterior motives.

I really enjoy seeing other members posting in depth informative threads like this with pics to go along. it makes it so much easier to understand. think you will ever do any vids?
 
I love it! I truly believe YKM has been incredibly helpful! His videos have helped ALL of us come up with new things and gain better understanding on how devices work.
 
Zambrodom3;625947 said:
I love it! I truly believe YKM has been incredibly helpful! His videos have helped ALL of us come up with new things and gain better understanding on how devices work.
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Agree 100%, his video have really helped men understand many things that words can not express.
 
Thanks... I never go to bed without attaching this device. Just to let you know if in case you decide to try this method. My Cylinder and Condom are larger size.

You will need to purchase a GearKeeper at amazon or ebay. If you can't find a 12oz or lower. The manufacturer provides a list of all the dealers around your city.

Dealer Locator-Gear Keeper

You will also need a rope to attach to your bed (just see the pics how I did it) ... and that is it.

You will notice your penis will be huge next morning. I really believe this method is beneficial for a lot of members in this forum, but there is no marketing campaign in this method like [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]Sizegenetics[/words]. So people will be skeptical and never give it a try.

Hopefully, you will like it ,and eventually you will make a video... :-)



Attn.: I will be sharing my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] (All Day Stretcher) in few weeks.


talk to you later..
 
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stillwantmore2;625275 said:
Prices on everything? Ouch, $89 for just the suction cup??? Do golden glove wearing elves make them? I'm always encouraged when I see stuff like this selling for a lot more money!
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I've read through 10-15 threads today. I have come across you in 3 of them and each time you are harping about price. This thread. A cool thread showing some Tools produced in Russia and another thread about pumping. Is it a correct assumption that you are always drawn to comment like this as a marketing tool because you sell a lower cost product that you are looking to bring attention to? I came to this presumption just now when I read your, "I'm always encouraged when I see stuff like this selling for a lot more money!" comment.
 
how do you find this to be more reliable? My [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] should arrive tomorrow and this is a cool set up. But I won't be getting a vac hanger anytime soon. Maybe someday though. The 12 oz fear thing is cool. So it applies a constant 12 oz of pull no matter how far you pull the cable out?
 
Stephmags123;627362 said:
how do you find this to be more reliable? My [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] should arrive tomorrow and this is a cool set up. But I won't be getting a vac hanger anytime soon. Maybe someday though. The 12 oz fear thing is cool. So it applies a constant 12 oz of pull no matter how far you pull the cable out?
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I expressed myself wrongly with the words. In my situation, it is more reliable because the VacHanger 3 cylinder is large than [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] . That is the reason, I had to figure out my own [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]All Night Stretcher[/words].

In my opinion, [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] is a good stretching device but it is not perfect. There is a learning curve like any tools out there. If [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] company had provide an extra large cylinder for the PE Communities, I would never had invest my time and money to create my own [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ANS[/words] method.
 
Stephmags123;627362 said:
how do you find this to be more reliable? My [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] should arrive tomorrow and this is a cool set up. But I won't be getting a vac hanger anytime soon. Maybe someday though. The 12 oz fear thing is cool. So it applies a constant 12 oz of pull no matter how far you pull the cable out?
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The main reason, I like Gear Keeper so much is because the pull is constant. I also notice that some users do not like to sleep with [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] around their waist.
 
Stephmags123;627360 said:
I've read through 10-15 threads today. I have come across you in 3 of them and each time you are harping about price. This thread. A cool thread showing some Tools produced in Russia and another thread about pumping. Is it a correct assumption that you are always drawn to comment like this as a marketing tool because you sell a lower cost product that you are looking to bring attention to? I came to this presumption just now when I read your, "I'm always encouraged when I see stuff like this selling for a lot more money!" comment.
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I agree with you 100% :-)

thanks
 
tbone350;627380 said:
The main reason, I like Gear Keeper so much is because the pull is constant. I also notice that some users do not like to sleep with [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] around their waist.
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It's good for me to know about this product just in case I don't like having the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] around my waist while I sleep
 
tbone350;627379 said:
I expressed myself wrongly with the words. In my situation, it is more reliable because the VacHanger 3 cylinder is large than [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] . That is the reason, I had to figure out my own [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]All Night Stretcher[/words].

In my opinion, [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] is a good stretching device but it is not perfect. There is a learning curve like any tools out there. If [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] company had provide an extra large cylinder for the PE Communities, I would never had invest my time and money to create my own [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ANS[/words] method.
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The good thing is as you create these modification [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] is seeing them and hopefully they will make it into the future models. I have seen this happen with many of our partners and it is a great feeling of pride when they use the modifications we create in their future designs.
 
Tbone,

I'm not familiar with your routine but why are you not using either the vachanger 3 or LG to hang? Do you think it's possible to make gains using a vac hanger? Would you recommend one vac hanger over the other to someone who was looking to purchase one?
 
Bryson;631065 said:
Tbone,

I'm not familiar with your routine but why are you not using either the vachanger 3 or LG to hang? Do you think it's possible to make gains using a vac hanger? Would you recommend one vac hanger over the other to someone who was looking to purchase one?
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I have both VacHanger 3 and LG hanger, but I've never hanging with VacHanger 3. I am only using VacHanger 3 as a anti-turtle/All Night Stretching device.

Just GOOGLE VacHanger 3 and LG Hanger before you spend your hardworking money... :-) There are people using VacHanger 3 with water inside..
 
OH,,, By the way, I love my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]All Night Stretcher[/words] method, I already notice my penis is hanging loose. This method might help to increase girth to some users.
 
tbone350;631590 said:
OH,,, By the way, I love my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]All Night Stretcher[/words] method, I already notice my penis is hanging loose. This method might help to increase girth to some users.
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Can we get a picture of your set up?
 
doublelongdaddy;631669 said:
Can we get a picture of your set up?
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It is in the beginning of this thread... :-) You will see my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]All Night Stretcher[/words]/Anti-turtle Night device.

Attn.: I will be sharing my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]All Day Stretcher[/words] in few weeks. I am sure most of you will like it.
 
tbone350;631774 said:
It is in the beginning of this thread... :-) You will see my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]All Night Stretcher[/words]/Anti-turtle Night device.

Attn.: I will be sharing my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]All Day Stretcher[/words] in few weeks. I am sure most of you will like it.
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I guess my computer is not showing the pictures let me try from my phone. Thank you for getting back to me.
 
tbone350;631774 said:
It is in the beginning of this thread... :-) You will see my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]All Night Stretcher[/words]/Anti-turtle Night device.

Attn.: I will be sharing my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]All Day Stretcher[/words] in few weeks. I am sure most of you will like it.
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I look forward to seeing it also. A nice comfortable [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ans[/words] and [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] is the best way to go. Thanks for wanting to freely share ideas.
 
Disco Dave;632111 said:
I look forward to seeing it also. A nice comfortable [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ans[/words] and [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] is the best way to go. Thanks for wanting to freely share ideas.
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OMFGFGF!!!!!!! DAVE, where have you been mate!!?! Good to see you back! :)
 
Zambrodom3;632112 said:
OMFGFGF!!!!!!! DAVE, where have you been mate!!?! Good to see you back! :)
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Hey Zam. Thanks bro. I just got a new phone. My blackberry was brutal to me on the net. I couldnt navigate like I wanted without it freezing on many sites. So I said phuck it. But now Iam back with the bros. I knew I had to hurry before you started a Wheres Disco Dave thread. Lol. But since the spring time is near I will be dedicating more time to all around self improvement. Hopefully looking to get a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lm[/words] with my ladies tax check. Lol. I let her claim the kids because the irs says I owe them back taxes. But I know guys who never pay taxes but the irs never gets them. Lol. Anyways Iam still 88 lbs overweight from my goal of 210. The winter holidays were brutal. I wish I had the money to do a 3 month fitness and pe sabbatical / camp where I can just get into a zone without worrying about having to do my regular duties. Any ways Iam back bro and I missed all you guys. So Zam I am glad to see you are still here. I hope the other bros are okay as well.
 
Disco Dave;632122 said:
Hey Zam. Thanks bro. I just got a new phone. My blackberry was brutal to me on the net. I couldnt navigate like I wanted without it freezing on many sites. So I said phuck it. But now Iam back with the bros. I knew I had to hurry before you started a Wheres Disco Dave thread. Lol. But since the spring time is near I will be dedicating more time to all around self improvement. Hopefully looking to get a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lm[/words] with my ladies tax check. Lol. I let her claim the kids because the irs says I owe them back taxes. But I know guys who never pay taxes but the irs never gets them. Lol. Anyways Iam still 88 lbs overweight from my goal of 210. The winter holidays were brutal. I wish I had the money to do a 3 month fitness and pe sabbatical / camp where I can just get into a zone without worrying about having to do my regular duties. Any ways Iam back bro and I missed all you guys. So Zam I am glad to see you are still here. I hope the other bros are okay as well.
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Great to have you back Brother Dave! You have been missed. The Brotherhood has been doing great, lots of new guys with great posts.
 
I am currently looking for something that I can attach to any wall or ceiling for the purpose of hooking a pulling strap to. But I dont want screw in-hooks plastered all over my house. Example: When laying in my bed while wearing the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words], I want to have a pull-strap coming from the ceiling and attached to the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words]. Or while watching tv on the couch I want to have a pull strap connected from my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] to the wall directly across.

I think it is considered suspense stretching. I think this type will help with growth quicker than just strapping it downwards or upwards with a leg strap.

So does anybody have any ideas about what to use without messing up the walls or ceiling. Plus something that can handle the tension without popping out of the wall?

Thanks
 
tbone, any updates on that [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]all day stretcher[/words]?
 
eagle8;643318 said:
tbone, any updates on that [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]all day stretcher[/words]?
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Same question here
 
huge-girth said:
This is not possible Brother. All the PE that I'm doing is to enable me have a monster cock for sex.
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The bigger the harder Is going to be to have sex lol just kidding,you are right you have to be proud of your gains! I have to make up my mind AND start my routine too..theres a Will theres a way!
 
LONGERDICK7+ said:
The bigger the harder Is going to be to have sex LOL just kidding,you are right you have to be proud of your gains! I have to make up my mind AND start my routine too..theres a Will theres a way!
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All that is needed is a change in perspective regarding women. A bigger penis comes with responsibilities. You must shift your preference in women if you have a 7 inches mid shaft girth.
 
huge-girth said:
All that is needed is a change in perspective regarding women. A bigger penis comes with responsibilities. You must shift your preference in women if you have a 7 inches mid shaft girth.
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I dont have a 7" girth,im way below that,but yeah i'll restart my routine hopefully today.I'll give my self an hour to grow a MONSTER COCK TOO.for some reason i feel excited about gains.You can help out whit advice thanks 👍i,ll measure by the end of the year😎
 
LONGERDICK7+ said:
I dont have a 7" girth,im way below that,but yeah i'll restart my routine hopefully today.I'll give my self an hour to grow a MONSTER COCK TOO.for some reason i feel excited about gains.You can help out whit advice thanks 👍i,ll measure by the end of the year😎
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What device do you have right now? I can make a length routine for you if you have a length master.
 
I have a power assist and a BM,if you can come out whit a good routine would be great.But i'll go whit the SRT for the next 3 months!! After that we could create new routines.Although if you have already designed routines i can use them after i finished the SRT routine.I appreciate your help
 
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