im guessing im not the only one who just watched the program on channel 5 in the UK,but they performed a test on 3 guys with 3 different products,to see if they cud increase there sizes over a 2 month period.

the results were like this:

guy1- jez [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]- no gain
guy 2- stimulant cream- 1"
guy 3- £25 pump- 1"

now obviously there are many issues an variables on measuring etc,but how on earth did the guy not gain anythin witht [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words],but some guy record a gain of an inch with some £6.99 cream,an a £25 pump?

obviously there cud have been variables such as excitement levels,that wud probly account for a few mm,but to account for an inch?especially with the cream.
just wondered wot u lots thoughts were on this.

oh yeah,they did use a consistant measuring method.
 
Cream might increase bloodflow for limited gains, since they probably didn't get a max erection first time around. They might have measured his pumped length, too.

Who cares, if it gets people to buy less effective products, then better for us :)
 
spinner2 said:
Cream might increase bloodflow for limited gains, since they probably didn't get a max erection first time around. They might have measured his pumped length, too.

Who cares, if it gets people to buy less effective products, then better for us :)

Touche.
 
spinner2 said:
Cream might increase bloodflow for limited gains, since they probably didn't get a max erection first time around. They might have measured his pumped length, too.

Who cares, if it gets people to buy less effective products, then better for us :)

No, I watched the programme myself and logged on here to see if anybody else posted about it.
'A Girl's Guide to 21st Century Sex'

The guy was not pumped when measured.

They showed the measurements on the 3 men with erections before, and then 2 or 3 months afterwards.

The guy using the cream was shown actually jelqing it in with upwards/out strokes, slightly erect, so it's not too unbelievable that the jelqing itself, along with the cream as well had an effect.
I'm aware of the name of that cream, it's called 'enlargo' (cheesy name I know:D), and It's available through 'Dash Publishing'.
The programme said that the active ingredient in the cream was a pepper-like substance (or something like that) which increased bloodflow to the penis..which to me isn't too far fetched a claim to make.

I too found it interesting because normally these sorts of things usually prove that nothing can possibly have an effect, and then tell us that it's not size that matters, it's what you do with it that counts, or some other cliche like that.

And this show was very different from the usual type of this show. Throughout it was very informative and appeared pretty honest and direct.
This was such a rarity of this kind of show because it was the first mainstream show of it's kind that I have seen which honestly said that Penis Enlargement was indeed possible....this is very definitely not usually the case.

What was also interesting if anybody noticed, is that a woman also demonstrated an alternative method of penis enlargement using a prosthetic penis prop...and guess what?..It appeared to be pretty much based on 'DLD's [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words]':P
It showed her demonstrating stretch it up for ten seconds, down for 10, to the left for 10, to the right for 10.

So if you believe that the programme should be mocked and disregarded then you'd be dismissing a routine that was almost identical to DLD' [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words]...which i know for a fact worked on me.;)

It was certainly an interesting programme, and I think It would cause no harm to consider using a pump in my routine, and/or possibly trying out that cream to use for when I jelq.
I don't see why not.

In fact the programme appeared to be advocating the cheaper alternatives and discouraging the more expensive routes...which comes across as having more in common with general views on here, that there are no real magic quick fix solutions where you can just buy a big penis if you have the money, and that a consistent routine performed regularly in the form of exercises is probably more beneficial.

In that respect it was more of a poke in the eye at the so called scientifically knowledgeable medical institutions that insist that the only way is through expensive surgery or expensive contraptions.

It felt more on our 'side' if you know what I mean.
It did feel to be promoting the right kind of general approaches anyway.

I'm not sure if the people criticising the show actually watched it...but as far as I'm concerned it approached the general subject matter in the fairest, most accepting manner that I've ever seen on television programme as far as Penis Enlargement is concerned. The show appeared to be actually promoting natural Penis Enlargement as beneficial, which is a first I think,... as opposed to the thousands of other shows over the years that prededed it and scoffed at the very idea as being nonsense.
And for approaching the subject from that intelligent angle all I can say is Hats off to them.
 
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Actually, dash publishing dont sell that 'enlargo' cream, they sell a cream called 'largo' but its not the same. Theres a few websites that sell enlargo and its really cheap, like under 5 pounds.
 
cypher79 said:
Actually, dash publishing dont sell that 'enlargo' cream, they sell a cream called 'largo' but its not the same. Theres a few websites that sell enlargo and its really cheap, like under 5 pounds.

ya i noticed
so which one is the cream that was featured in the tv special? largo or enlargo?
 
Hmmm. i dont know yet, I just tried downloading the programme from a torrents site so I could find out the name but unfortunately I downloaded the wrong episode, I will post the name up as soon as I find out.
 
cypher79 said:
Hmmm. i dont know yet, I just tried downloading the programme from a torrents site so I could find out the name but unfortunately I downloaded the wrong episode, I will post the name up as soon as I find out.

can you host it once you've downloaded it.
I'd love to watch this.
 
i recorded this episode with windows media center last night, the full episode is over 700Mb, i can cut out the bit about Penis Enlargement if anybody want that bit?
 
Nice one VK,

There seems there are lots of different episodes or something!
Sure one of us will find the correct one? and post link!

its on download now, i use Bitspirit
 
I'm thinking the one I'm downloading is correct as its called 2006.10.30 which means it was last week. hopefully this isn't a daily show with 365 episodes per year. >:(
 
it was only episode 2,if the tv guides are anyhting to go by.
the program is quite informative,from everythin from std avoiding methods,sexual techniques,an some quite strange but interesting camera angles,as the guy has a camera attatched to the end of his penis,an the woman has one inserted in her pussy looking down at the oncoming head!

i know that there are many reasons why they cud have reached the results they di through innacuracies and variables,but i 1"is quite drastic even if thats slightly exagerated by up to half an inch.that stills means that rubbing cream into ya dick (if it was with the jelquing method or not),still gained SOMETHING in 2 months. and as someone said earlier the program did seem to detract from buying expensive items,an also had a short part talking about manual stretching.
 
Damn! Has anyone downloaded it yet? I have got 2 trackers on download but they are slow as hell, its saying its gonna take like a week to download!
 
This is just weird. Tons of people pump, and I've NEVER heard of results that significant. Someone should check to see whether the show is affiliated with or sponsored by any of the products.
 
hooray4boobies said:
oh yeah,the program was only bout 45 mins long,so i doubt it was 700 mb.

758mb for 43 mins, its in dvrms (mpeg) i can convert it to divx if anybody wants it, or if u want let me know and ill cut the Penis Enlargement bit.
 
TV, the media, our NEWS sources or any other outlet for information for the masses hold no water at all. These greedy, selfish, self serving pieces of shit only produce media that lines their pockets with more money.

I know this puts a huge question mark in our society at a population that looks towards the media for reassurance and valid information but they lie. They only produce information on the basis of advancement in their particular position in the media.

What works? [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Matters of Size[/words] does, Thundersplace, Penis Enlargement forums, Forsize or any other corner of the internet that had dared to remain true to realities and benign to monetary advancement.

Pulling, stretching, jeqing and deforming the penis is easy, it is free and it is witnessed daily by anyone who spends any time on boards such as [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. They are always going to be alternatives to what we do but these alternatives play on the human component that wishes results without time or effort.

A magic pill, cream, device or any other "quick solution" to enlargement will always play against the true method to enlargement. If they did not, it would create a monopoly that lacked the negative curriculum that drives reality.

I endorse very little when Penis Enlargement is concerned and I think you need to know my position in this corner of the internet. My name, Mike Salvini, DLD, doublelongdaddy, is used by major companies to promote their product. Why the fuck would Pfizer need my endorsement to sell their product? East, they know our underground methods have validity. Anyone can search my name and come up with information that supports true penile growth with validity from outlets that play a major role in todays male, sexual market.

Put your blinders on people! We have the knowledge, we always did. Doctors, corporations or scummy, fat, disgusting spammers are plotting on our success towards products that are, at best, worthless.

Stay true to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words], never waver to the easy indications that unknowing, ignorant parties express. I am here everyday, I am respected for my contribution, I am known for my individualized product....can anyone else say this?

Don't let them confuse you, you are right where you are supposed to be and if I ever tread on territory that is false to my direction...please attack me and get you 200% money back guaranty.
 
scott20 said:
758mb for 43 mins, its in dvrms (mpeg) i can convert it to divx if anybody wants it, or if u want let me know and ill cut the Penis Enlargement bit.

I will please, if thats ok mate?

i have 3 different episodes on d/L, but think they are all wrong!

It was 700MB coz it was recorded from Windows Media Center direct and not had compression such as divX. need codecs to play
 
I just googled 'Enlargo' and theres loads of sites over here in the UK selling it and its only like 5 pounds, so at that price, u cant really complain, even if it doesnt work. The pics I found of it look really similar to the product on the programme too.
 
DKS said:
use megaupload or gigasharerofl

ok I'm uploading it for you guys now. It will likely take 2-3 hours to fully load.

One thing to note, is that one of the guys 'supposedly' gained a full inch from just using a cream for 2 months. The interesting thing is, when they measure him before his 'trial' they do the measuring from the side and don't show you the measuring stick reading, they just say out loud that he's 6.5 inches. and when they measure him afterwards, they show the measurement at 7.5. Hydromaxm... sktechy?:( you guys be the judge.
 
The cream makes since. I thought of the same thing a while back. Everybody knows that deep-heat improves circulation. The reason is b/c there is a chemical in it that causes a rush of blood to the site. What if you made it very mild. Deep-heat is also a cool burn when you get pepper juice on you its a hot burn but maybe they found a pepper that has juice that causes an increase in blood flow without the burn.

MMMh very interesting. I wouldn't mind trying some of the cream for myself.
 
and they're measuring is VERY inconsistent. They sometimes measure from the top and sometimes from the side. When I measure myself from the side I gain another 0.5+ inch in length.

So the whole program is bullshit.

But i'd still be (for the sake of arguement) interested in knowing how that cream supposedly works.
 
Vaseline_Knight said:
I'd be really intereseted in finding out what this Enlargo cream is all about.


Goldmember, can you get to the bottom of this?
I wasn't able to find a list of ingredients for this one. By what Murcury said, it contains a pepper-like substance as the actve ingredient. Likely, that is either piperine or capsaicin. Piperine is an enzyme inhibitor, used to decrease drug metabolism for longer enhanced effects. Capsaicin acts as an anesthetic by depleting nuerotransmitters in the sensory neurons of the skin. I really don't see how either could be of any advantage to Penis Enlargement. They are both nitrogen-containing substances, however, and some nitrogen-containing compounds are vasodilators. Not usre about piperine or capsaicin.
 
i seriously don't understand how 'increased' blood flow would be of any help for permenant Penis Enlargement gains. presumably, the increased blood flow till make the CC and CS chambers grow ?:( but the limiting factore seems to be the Tunica, which even the astronomical internal pressure caused by clamping can barely influence.
 
hooray4boobies said:
it was only episode 2,if the tv guides are anyhting to go by.
the program is quite informative,from everythin from std avoiding methods,sexual techniques,an some quite strange but interesting camera angles,as the guy has a camera attatched to the end of his penis,an the woman has one inserted in her pussy looking down at the oncoming head!

i know that there are many reasons why they cud have reached the results they di through innacuracies and variables,but i 1"is quite drastic even if thats slightly exagerated by up to half an inch.that stills means that rubbing cream into ya dick (if it was with the jelquing method or not),still gained SOMETHING in 2 months. and as someone said earlier the program did seem to detract from buying expensive items,an also had a short part talking about manual stretching.

Yes, It didn't give complete details about variables, for example what pressure the pump was set at, if the guy using the [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]Jes[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] truly was comitted and wore it for 3 hours a day, or whatever other details were left out,..but yes I agree with you, it appeared that the guy was jelqing the cream in, and it could well have been a combination of the cream and the jelqing that produced any benefit.
If the cream increased blood flow to the penis then I'd imagine it would make jelqing more effective.
I'm sure the brand used was called 'enlargo'.

And if I remember rightly, I think that I remember it being mentioned that the men refrained from masturbation for the 2 or 3 months.
 
spinner2 said:
This is just weird. Tons of people pump, and I've NEVER heard of results that significant. Someone should check to see whether the show is affiliated with or sponsored by any of the products.

It didn't mention the brand name for the pump.
 
Mercury said:
Yes, It didn't give complete details about variables, for example what pressure the pump was set at, if the guy using the [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]Jes[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] truly was comitted and wore it for 3 hours a day, or whatever other details were left out,..but yes I agree with you, it appeared that the guy was jelqing the cream in, and it could well have been a combination of the cream and the jelqing that produced any benefit.
If the cream increased blood flow to the penis then I'd imagine it would make jelqing more effective.
I'm sure the brand used was called 'enlargo'.

And if I remember rightly, I think that I remember it being mentioned that the men refrained from masturbation for the 2 or 3 months
.

I don't recall hearing that in the show and i watched it twice. the guy that didn't gain anything from the [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]JES[/words] looked like the biggest wimp too. Not likely someone that would commit to Penis Enlargement. I'm 100% certain consistent [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] produces much more solid gains than some pepper cream or a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penis pump[/words]. Even though I'd like to be proven wrong.
 
Vaseline_Knight said:
I don't recall hearing that in the show and i watched it twice. the guy that didn't gain anything from the [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]JES[/words] looked like the biggest wimp too. Not likely someone that would commit to Penis Enlargement. I'm 100% certain consistent [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]traction[/words] produces much more solid gains than some pepper cream or a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penis pump[/words]. Even though I'd like to be proven wrong.


Hey VK how is the uploading going?
 
enlargo cream = "the perfect complement for the penis developer"
directions: a small quantity should be applied with gentle massage along entire length of the penis twice daily

active ingredients: oleoresin capsicum bpc
methyl salicylate (It is used as a rubefacient in deep heating liniments)

well i just rubbed some on about 5 mins ago, not much effect yet. will try post again in an hour...
 
well, almost 2 hours later and my penis feels pretty good. flaccid hang is much bigger and the area is warmer than usual, both implying more blood flow. i will definitely be using this when i complete my girth work out. id suspect it would have a greater effect on girth than length though.
 
EVO said:
well, almost 2 hours later and my penis feels pretty good. flaccid hang is much bigger and the area is warmer than usual, both implying more blood flow. i will definitely be using this when i complete my girth work out. id suspect it would have a greater effect on girth than length though.

is there any site that sells it in the US and Canada?
 
you can probably find very similar things in the us.
i just watched the program, couple of critasisms:-
when the guy who used the pump measured in the after pics, it looked more like a flaccid stretch than an erect measurement. also the guy with the cream - when measuring he pointed his penis downwards, and the tape measure went over his exit point by what looked like an inch. also in the comparison pics it didnt look any different. the guy himself said he didnt notice that much of a difference (and you would definitely notice an inch!)
 
EVO said:
you can probably find very similar things in the us.
i just watched the program, couple of critasisms:-
when the guy who used the pump measured in the after pics, it looked more like a flaccid stretch than an erect measurement. also the guy with the cream - when measuring he pointed his penis downwards, and the tape measure went over his exit point by what looked like an inch. also in the comparison pics it didnt look any different. the guy himself said he didnt notice that much of a difference (and you would definitely notice an inch!)

What's also interesting is that 'Enlargo' is a british product. A person that sees that program will automatically favour the cream over the other alternatives for several reasons.

a) it's the cheapest.
b) it's the most effortless of all
c) it has very little negative connotation associated with it. What would you be rather get caught doing: applying some cream to your penis, or having a [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]JES[/words] or a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]penis pump[/words] on.
d) I call bullshit.

If they'd right out said 'only enlargo' works, everyone woulda been up their ass accusing them of being affiliated with the cream manufacturer. But including the pump (which is KNOWN not to provide an inch of permanent gains in 2 months) as a competing choice and eliminating the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] which has the most credibility on the Penis Enlargement market at the moment, will get people to unknowingly accept what the producer was trying to say.
 
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