sikdogg said:
Cutting diets are generally not good for building muscle, but if well planned you should lose very little muscle while dropping serious bodyfat. You really have to decide which is most important to you, keeping all your muscle AND FAT or losing a little muscle to lose most of your fat.
Low carb diets force your body to use fat (as ketones) for energy, how will this encourage fat storage?? If you eat often so you body is well nourished and don't eat too much surplus calories, there won't be much to store as fat.
My desicion is to keep the muscle and the fat, but increase the muscle.
penguinsfan said:
Man, you'd probably say I have a huge set of jugs on me. lol
Post a pic and Ill be the Judge Of THAT!..rofl
ggogeta said:
Sure, but the minute you start eating more fat I'd guess the body isnt used to it anymore and you get more fat storage. It's like the people who follow a strict diet... and their stomac shrinks a bit because it does not need to be big anymore. They lose fat rapidly, but then they can't take it anymore and start eating again, and then, because the body isn't made for such a big ammount of food could make that into fat. That's called the "yo-yo" effect right. (people gaining more than they lost)
I thought it was the same for low fat / carb diet. once you start to eat those again in greater qty, it has a bigger effect on you. But that was just an assumption from me.
The YO YO Effect IS only For the WEAKMINDED!!!!!!!!
.........(runs to finish off the 30 wings he left in the oven).......
sikdogg said:
The yo-yo effect comes from people with no self-control or ones that just don't know any better. These people only know two ways to eat... either they starve themselves or the gorge themselves. They don't stop and think for a moment...when you're on calorie restriction, you can't just start eating like you did before. You have to slowly add calories back into your diet. Think about it... if you go back to eating the way you did to get fat, what do you think the result will be?? Losing
weight and keeping it off is a lifestyle change... and it's forever.
Very True, as in the case of 2 of my brothers. My little brother, i put him on a low carb diet last year, he lost 50 lbs (260 to 210 {hes 6'2" and 13 years old}) and hes kept it off ever since with basketball and school activities, while my older brother has had the opposite effect. Around the same timelast year i put him on a low carb diet and he lost about 30 lbs( he was 330) and then immediately after he lost the
weight ~splurged~ with the Wholesale Goodness of Costco food. I mean he jumped up 50 lbs in the matter of 1 month. Some people are weak minded and some people really care about how they look. Im the type of person who cares about how they look.
ggogeta said:
That all makes sense I just thought you could store more fat from a bag of chip after lest's say some months ( say, years) of stricter diet, than before. Because the body isnt used to it anymore.
I dunno it that's clear.
Anyways I think a good normal ratio of all carbs/fat/protein + exercice will lead you eventually to a normal
weight. If you want faster results, substract some 100-200 calories ( and be intelligent on the choice of what you eat) and that's it. it's a no-brainer.
what's hard might be to CHANGE your habbits.
I agree i guess my older brother was set in his ways. He could easily do it, its just he has no motivation to succeed.
goldmember said:
Stay away from CLEN, man! People have had serious heart problems (partially irreversible) from that shit. Stick to a fat burner like SAN Tight! or Biotest Hot Rox. I mean this whole-heartedly.
I know a member on this forum who had a near heart attack from ONE PILL. Don't take that risk.
Also, your gyno is pretty mild. The best way to get rid of gyno is taking an aromatase inhibitor, such as arimidex. An estrogen receptor blocker might also be effective (don't take both at the same time though--dangerous and will hurt gains).
As far as the protein intake, high protein diets burn fat--period. But the kidneys will take a huge beating if you continue to consume a diet based entirely off meat or whatever. The gluconeogenesis diet worked great for me. It was based off of 40% protein, 40% carbs, and 20% fat. I bet it would have worked better if I decreased the carbs to 30% and increased the fat to 30%. Keep the calories at or below maintenance, and watch the fat fly off!
Thank you for your concern Goldmember, but Clen has treated me pretty well so far(at 140mcg a day 2 week on week off). I mean i get mild shakes here and there but I definately see a difference in muscle definition after only two weeks.
As far as the gyno, thats what i suspected mild gyno, i feel reassured that its that after your post. But as far as taking Arimidex or Nolvadex i dont know if i want to or should for that matter as it might hinder my gains. I have them on hand now because i just started my first cycle of TEST Enanthate (........YES BROTHERS THE JUICE IS LOOSE!.......) but i dont know if i want to risk not gaining as much muscle by taking them. I know most people might not promote steroid use for whatever reason but i have decided to use it and that is my desicion.
As far as my cycle goes it will be looking as follows
Week 1- 18 Clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off
Week 1-12 Test Enanthate (mon and Thurs) 700 mg a week/ mixed with 1 ml of b12 on both days
Week 15-16 Nolvadex 40 mg a day
Week 17-18 Nolvadex 20mg a day
As far as diet im gunna stick with a high protein, low carb, low fat and around 3000 calories a day.
Nelly Gay said:
im2macklin
At 19 you are still very young with some "puppy fat".
You look just fine and have a heavier build (like a Rugby Player).
Bigger is better.
Who looks good when they are skinny ....
Yea you are right, i do look good..(winks at himself in the mirror)
i am gunna get bigger and BETTER and thanks for the compliment!
Mr.Winkle said:
AHHH Another one of u's!!!!!
I like my girls BIG man.... at least in the butt...deff not the GUTT!
AlreadyPackin' said:
And a lot of THEM like skinny cut guys. This dude has a good base to start from. He's got good arms, and he shouldn't have any problems building up his chest. I personally keep my bodyfat low, and I gain a little muscle at a time, and not much fat at all. But not everyone's metabolism makes it so easy to stay lean. I have a hard time gaining
weight sometimes, but ironically I gained more
weight when I cut my protein intake down.
Thanks for the Compliments about my arms (i love my arms!), and me having a good base to start from. I am going to stay at about the same BF but def increase muscle size. IF i go down in body fat GREAT because the increase in muscle, but if not ill lose it with cardio.
goldmember said:
I wish this guy would post so we don't think he ended up in the hospital from CLEN...
No Hospital for ME Goldmember but thank you again for your concern, i really appreciate it!rofl
sikdogg said:
Clen/T3 cycles are pretty common in the bodybuilding world... as long as you ramp up and ramp back down, you shouldn't have any problems.
Definately something i here alot about Sikdogg, Clen and T3. I just didnt want to jump on the t3 so I am going to stick with the CLEN and a long first cycle of Enan
THANK YOU ALL FOR POSTING IN MY THREAD. After my cycle is over i will posting some pictures...so cross your fingers guys!
Sorry for being a smart ass :s
