It's Time To Lose Weight !!!

Tahir Aqbar;593129 said:
Meh.

Cardio. That's how you hurt yourself.

You know what Tahir does for cardio?

Go to the gym and throw 135lbs on the squat rack. Now squat 135lbs for a total of 100 reps in x amount of minutes. Then go back a day or two later and reduce the time by a minute.

Don't want to squat? No problem. I also like to throw 225lbs on a bar and do the same with dead lifts.

Want to incorporate your arms more? Get a 300-500lb tire and do tire flips under the same parameters. If you can get your hands on a "log" (the strongman logs) and to log clean and press that's a good one too.

Or you can just do something like 10 sets of 10 reps with short rest intervals of 30 to 60 sec.
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When I was serious into working out in my mid 20's I was a monster and was able to squat 700lbs free weight (fourteen 45 lb. plates plus a 45 lb. bar) and do 3 sets of 8 reps. The bar would be bending over my shoulders it was crazy. People encourgaed me to enter a strong man comp back then. Now I can barely squat down and pick up some change that fell out of my pocket lol. All that bulk and muscle turned into fat.

I'm back at it though, I have to make it become a habit and stick with it for about 6 weeks so it becomes natural again. I will just stick with the basics in the beginning so I don't burn myself out and quit before it becomes a habit. I already know how to get into it. I have incredible knowledge about nutrition and exercise but I became the mechanic with the broken car or the plumber with a leaky sink. :/
 
Tahir Aqbar;593129 said:
Meh.

Cardio. That's how you hurt yourself.

You know what Tahir does for cardio?

Go to the gym and throw 135lbs on the squat rack. Now squat 135lbs for a total of 100 reps in x amount of minutes. Then go back a day or two later and reduce the time by a minute.

Don't want to squat? No problem. I also like to throw 225lbs on a bar and do the same with dead lifts.
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clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap. killing it!!!

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LIGHTNING;593099 said:
Yes, I feel healthy being this overweight even though being overweight/obese is not healthy. I have no diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol or heart issues. I use to be 540. I'm doing an elliptical right now on the highest resistance to start. I'm a machine man.
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i'm sure your body was working 100x harder than a fit persons body to maintain a balanced state.
 
Dude, just do a juice fast, i've been loosing a pound a day steadily for the last 2 weeks, i'm already 17 lbs down.
The greatest thing about the juice fast is that, because you get all the extra phyto-nutrients, like vitamines, mineral, anti-oxidants, plus the incredible amount of hydration that comes with the fast, your skin will look much younger and your less likely to be left with loose sagging skin.
Not to mention you get ripped quick.
The fist 3-4 days are like hell, but then all of a sudden you feel light, and you have more energy then you've ever had before in your life, plus it's pretty awesome how quick it goes down, who wants to wait 6-8 months to do something you could do in 60 days.
 
jekyllnhyde360;593172 said:
Dude, just do a juice fast, i've been loosing a pound a day steadily for the last 2 weeks, i'm already 17 lbs down.
The greatest thing about the juice fast is that, because you get all the extra phyto-nutrients, like vitamines, mineral, anti-oxidants, plus the incredible amount of hydration that comes with the fast, your skin will look much younger and your less likely to be left with loose sagging skin.
Not to mention you get ripped quick.
The fist 3-4 days are like hell, but then all of a sudden you feel light, and you have more energy then you've ever had before in your life, plus it's pretty awesome how quick it goes down, who wants to wait 6-8 months to do something you could do in 60 days.
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Well I already eat a plant based diet and been doing that for a year now, so I eat real clean. I always wanted to try juicing but I need to find some good starter recipes so I stick with it. I don't want to juice kale everyday and give up. Any good starter recipes to share?
 
jekyllnhyde360;593172 said:
Dude, just do a juice fast,
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LIGHTNING;593224 said:
Well I already eat a plant based diet and been doing that for a year now, so I eat real clean. I always wanted to try juicing but I need to find some good starter recipes so I stick with it. I don't want to juice kale everyday and give up. Any good starter recipes to share?
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http://juicerecipes.com/

it's a good site.

also check out

bulletproofexec.com

he tried the plant based diet and it didn't work for him. a lot of content on his site. you might like it.
 
Ya man for sure, eating plant base is deff an awesome transformation, but even as a vegan there are so many different categories, like low-fat, high fat, cooked, un-cooked, starch based, fruit based.
When i started eating plant based i felt great but my weight didn't really go down to quick because i was eating to many nuts, oils, and avocados, so then in switched to a raw food diet, pretty much just fruit all day, but i could eat as much as i want, and i actually dropped mad weight like 7 lbs in 8 days, so then i figured fuck it, why not start it off with a juice fast, and here we are! LMAO! :)
After this im goign to go back to the low-fat raw vegan diet, with maybe like one cooked meal at soper or something.
As for juice recipies, here are a few or my favorites, i find they go down easier, plus i don't use kale!!! i hate kale!!! lol
I use baby spinach, red chard, or watercress as my Greens.

Carrot apple ginger
-8 big ass carrots
-apples (usually like 2-3)
-ginger (thumb size piece)

Orange celery Spinach
-3 oranges
- 8 stalks of celery
- two big handfuls of spinach (or any other green, watercress is the most nutrient dense)

Lemon ginger Blast
- 6-8 stalks of celery
- 1 lemon ( if it's organic, you can leave the skin on, lemon it the only citrus you can do this with)
- ginger thumb size
- 1 whole cucumber
- 2-3 apples
- Lots of greens ( spinach, watercress, etc..., This is my favourite drink, when you drink it, you feel like it's purifying your blood!)

If you want to learn about raw vegan, here's some youtube channels with good info-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df8GQaJLQXg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbWF3xvcIr8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp50ehEWtb4

Good luck man!!! :)

Oh ya, and i forgot to mention, you should have atleast 3 juices a day, and each should be at the very minimum 30 to 32 oz each

here's a really good juicing channel when it comes to recipies-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSVitZN5cAw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYUibicEMPM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29dwtdzgofE
 
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jekyllnhyde360;593398 said:
Ya man for sure, eating plant base is deff an awesome transformation, but even as a vegan there are so many different categories, like low-fat, high fat, cooked, un-cooked, starch based, fruit based.
When i started eating plant based i felt great but my weight didn't really go down to quick because i was eating to many nuts, oils, and avocados, so then in switched to a raw food diet, pretty much just fruit all day, but i could eat as much as i want, and i actually dropped mad weight like 7 lbs in 8 days, so then i figured fuck it, why not start it off with a juice fast, and here we are! LMAO! :)
After this im goign to go back to the low-fat raw vegan diet, with maybe like one cooked meal at soper or something.
As for juice recipies, here are a few or my favorites, i find they go down easier, plus i don't use kale!!! i hate kale!!! lol
I use baby spinach, red chard, or watercress as my Greens.

Carrot apple ginger
-8 big ass carrots
-apples (usually like 2-3)
-ginger (thumb size piece)

Orange celery Spinach
-3 oranges
- 8 stalks of celery
- two big handfuls of spinach (or any other green, watercress is the most nutrient dense)

Lemon ginger Blast
- 6-8 stalks of celery
- 1 lemon ( if it's organic, you can leave the skin on, lemon it the only citrus you can do this with)
- ginger thumb size
- 1 whole cucumber
- 2-3 apples
- Lots of greens ( spinach, watercress, etc..., This is my favourite drink, when you drink it, you feel like it's purifying your blood!)

If you want to learn about raw vegan, here's some youtube channels with good info-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df8GQaJLQXg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbWF3xvcIr8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp50ehEWtb4

Good luck man!!! :)

Oh ya, and i forgot to mention, you should have atleast 3 juices a day, and each should be at the very minimum 30 to 32 oz each

here's a really good juicing channel when it comes to recipies-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSVitZN5cAw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYUibicEMPM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29dwtdzgofE
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Wow thanks for all this awesome info! You gpt me hyped, I'm going to pick up a juicer tomorrow. Any suggestions on good juicer machines?
 
google omega 8006. I use this one because it doesn't spin fast causing heat which is believed to destroy some of the nutrition in the fruits and veggies...enzyme type shit lol among other things. it crushes slowly and presses the juice out.
 
Ya the reason centrifugal juicers are better in the beginning is because of the time factor, no one wants to take 30 minutes making a juice the could have finished in 5, the masticating like yours are better for juicing herbs a leafy greens, but all in all, as for loss of nutrients, it's debatable, there maybe minor loss, but it's relatively low abd really isn't anywhere close to being a problem you may lose like 2 % which is nothing really.
All of the people who i see juicing, including the guy from the juicing doc, fat,sick,and nearly dead use a centrifugal juicer.
But i were to get serious about herbs and wheat grass i would prob get a masticating juicer, just because you get a bit more extraction.
But anyways, as for a beginner i would start a relatively inexpensive, quick, powerful juicer like a brevile.
 
If you monitor slickdeals, they usually have refurb deals every now and then for extremely cheap on blenders/juicers.
You can also get a good deal on the 8005-6's from their factory refurbs for very cheap as well.


BUT you said "tomorrow". So not sure if you've bought one by now or later on today (assuming a post @ 1am was meant to mean later in the day instead of tomorrow).
 
I was looking at a $300 Breville but now I see they have a $400 one now as well. I really don't want to drop big bucks on something until I know I'm gonna stick with it.
 
I'm just getting out of bed now so I was going to go to the mall or wally word today.
 
LIGHTNING;593444 said:
I'm just getting out of bed now so I was going to go to the mall or wally word today.
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my first juicer was the jack lalane juicer. it was very good and cheap. like 80$ with a 20% off coupon and bed bath and beyond
 
doublelongdaddy;594167 said:
Isn't it just a fancy blender? I have seen them for $40 at Walmart.
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It's a juicer. Which just extracts the contents of the fruit/vegetable and bins the fiber/pulp.
Looks like a blender though. You could actually add some of the pulp back into the juiced material.

You might have to run the pulp back again for centrifugal juicers for vegetables as they're not as efficient as masticating juicers.

The only blender that seems to be worth a damn around the $100 range is the ninja blender.
 
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smerc;594175 said:
It's a juicer. Which just extracts the contents of the fruit/vegetable and bins the fiber/pulp.
Looks like a blender though. You could actually add some of the pulp back into the juiced material.

You might have to run the pulp back again for centrifugal juicers for vegetables as they're not as efficient as masticating juicers.

The only blender that seems to be worth a damn around the $100 range is the ninja blender.
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nutribullet is pretty good. I didn't like the ninja blender.

I went with a vitamix and highly recommend it...even if you can't afford it just put it on your card!!
 
Isn't it just a fancy blender? I have seen them for $40 at Walmart.
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No actually, a blender is an emulsifier, it just tears through everything, but it still leaves the fiber in the mix, where as a juicer completely removes all fiber, which leaves you with nothing but pure juice, which is what allows you to stay in a fasted state while still getting all the essential vitamins, minerals, and other nutrient you need from your produce.
When you intake the fiber it shuts off the fasting mechanism, because the body has to break down the matter, but the juice is so easily absorbed and metabolized that you don't have that switch.
A really great documentary is Fat, Sick, And nearly dead, i really recommend it to anyone with extra weight to lose, not only to better understand juicing but to undrstand the benefit of taking in more fresh fruits and veggies.
Another really good dock is Forks over Knives, that doc is fucking amazing!
 
jekyllnhyde360;594193 said:
No actually, a blender is an emulsifier, it just tears through everything, but it still leaves the fiber in the mix, where as a juicer completely removes all fiber, which leaves you with nothing but pure juice, which is what allows you to stay in a fasted state while still getting all the essential vitamins, minerals, and other nutrient you need from your produce.
When you intake the fiber it shuts off the fasting mechanism, because the body has to break down the matter, but the juice is so easily absorbed and metabolized that you don't have that switch.
A really great documentary is Fat, Sick, And nearly dead, i really recommend it to anyone with extra weight to lose, not only to better understand juicing but to undrstand the benefit of taking in more fresh fruits and veggies.
Another really good dock is Forks over Knives, that doc is fucking amazing!
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Did you feel hungry while juicing? I've seen the Forks over Knives and Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead along with many other similar documentaries over the years.
 
doublelongdaddy;593070 said:
I wish I had a center, it is either depression or mania, I can't remember being baseline.
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Effexor XR prescribed to me by my bipolar doctor is the only thing that works to keep me more or less baseline. I tried everything else available for bipolar over the years, but EFFEXOR XR is the only one that works. The only side effect I get from it is the inability to ejaculate at times. So I can fuck until my dick gets sore. But that's not good for PE either under certain conditions. But I manage somehow to get around it when I really need to. But even with effexor xr I can still be triggered into a mania or a depression so I have to watch who I let into my life and for what reasons.
 
Did you feel hungry while juicing? I've seen the Forks over Knives and Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead along with many other similar documentaries over the years.
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Ya, you'll be hungry and feeling the urge to eat for the first few days but around the 3-4 day you start to feel really really good!
You go through a detox for a few day because your body i releasing the toxins that have acumulated in your fat cells. head aches, tiredness, hunger are all common for the first few days.
 
jekyllnhyde360;594552 said:
Ya, you'll be hungry and feeling the urge to eat for the first few days but around the 3-4 day you start to feel really really good!
You go through a detox for a few day because your body i releasing the toxins that have acumulated in your fat cells. head aches, tiredness, hunger are all common for the first few days.
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This is on a total juice diet?
 
Ive done quite a few juice fasts ranging from 2 weeks up to 2.5 months. Hunger "pangs" subside after the first 2 weeks or so during your first fast. The things to look out for are heavy withdrawl symptoms and blood toxicity. Juicing fruits will spike your blood sugar and can possible cause insulin shock(bad). golden ratio is to stick with mainly veggies, if you can incorporate the rainbow technique into making your daily juices youll hit the entire spectrum of everything you need. For added benefit you can add liquid aminos and also brewers yeast which will give your body protein building blocks during the fasted state. Also dont forget your ACV during the fast, it helps the stomach deal with the acid issues.
 
This is on a total juice diet?
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Yes, i don't take anything except water.

Ive done quite a few juice fasts ranging from 2 weeks up to 2.5 months. Hunger "pangs" subside after the first 2 weeks or so during your first fast. The things to look out for are heavy withdrawl symptoms and blood toxicity. Juicing fruits will spike your blood sugar and can possible cause insulin shock(bad). golden ratio is to stick with mainly veggies, if you can incorporate the rainbow technique into making your daily juices youll hit the entire spectrum of everything you need. For added benefit you can add liquid aminos and also brewers yeast which will give your body protein building blocks during the fasted state. Also dont forget your ACV during the fast, it helps the stomach deal with the acid issues.
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Nice!
My hunger pains only lasted 3 days, and it was more of a discomfort.
And about the fruit sugars in the juice spiking insulin, it's not really a problem unless your suffering from some sort of condition, it mean even in the fasting book they tell you to use mostly fruit in the beginning until you get used to it.
Also, i used alot of fruit and have still kept significant weight loss going.
As for the liquid aminos and bakers yeast, i would actually disagree personaly, i've never read or seen anything about that, and the thing is, if your trying to lose weight and taking in liquid amino's like braggs, its full of sodium which retains water, not good.
And bakers yeast is fiber, so it creally defeats the purpose.
Also, as for the protien, most fruits and veggies are between 5-8% protien, so you gert plenty in the juices you drink, especially with spinach.
But i do agree, you are looking to eventually hit something like 1/3rd fruit, 2/3rds greens.
 
Why don't you try weight watchers or lite n easy for 6-8 weeks on top of that add some weight lifting not to heavy or insane ( you would tell them this) and you will drop a lot of weight after the 6-8 you can keep at it or go your own way,doing this won't burn you out to.
 
Tahir Aqbar;594858 said:
Did somebody say juicing?

Anavar is a great steroid for fat loss. You'll get some nice muscles on it too ;)
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:):):) Juice
 
Okay guys. 78 lbs to go. Iam back to low carbs, eating slower instead of gulping down food, more gum chewing, metabolism-burning supplement, and daily jog. My goal 210. My current 288. My motivation (my lady is becoming more independent and Iam tired of beeing worried that guys at her job may see her as prey because I let myself become way obese and anti-social. Disco Dave will soon be back on the disco scene. Our 15 year anniversary is mid September (45 days from today) and I want to be 55lbs thinner by then. I will update. Btw: can people lose 2lbs a day?
 
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I added in the liquid aminos and brewers yeast to assist in not taking my body for a complete rollercoaster. The times i add those are when i have a blistering 2x workout that day and i now ill be running low on nutrients. And by adding we are talking a teaspoon of the aminos and 1/2 a tbsp of the yeast in only one of the daily juices. You are correct in that 90% will never need those but they were my solution to a problem of not being able to keep pushing while on a fast.

The no fruit is just MPO, i guess im a bit sensitive to the sugar spike as it hits your bloodstream all at once rather than timed release during digestion(beets are notorious for this)

Spinach is also very viable but too pricey at current market prices for my liking.

jekyllnhyde360;594820 said:
Yes, i don't take anything except water.



Nice!
My hunger pains only lasted 3 days, and it was more of a discomfort.
And about the fruit sugars in the juice spiking insulin, it's not really a problem unless your suffering from some sort of condition, it mean even in the fasting book they tell you to use mostly fruit in the beginning until you get used to it.
Also, i used alot of fruit and have still kept significant weight loss going.
As for the liquid aminos and bakers yeast, i would actually disagree personaly, i've never read or seen anything about that, and the thing is, if your trying to lose weight and taking in liquid amino's like braggs, its full of sodium which retains water, not good.
And bakers yeast is fiber, so it creally defeats the purpose.
Also, as for the protien, most fruits and veggies are between 5-8% protien, so you gert plenty in the juices you drink, especially with spinach.
But i do agree, you are looking to eventually hit something like 1/3rd fruit, 2/3rds greens.
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Okay guys. 78 lbs to go. Iam back to low carbs, eating slower instead of gulping down food, more gum chewing, metabolism-burning supplement, and daily jog. My goal 210. My current 288. My motivation (my lady is becoming more independent and Iam tired of beeing worried that guys at her job may see her as prey because I let myself become way obese and anti-social. Disco Dave will soon be back on the disco scene. Our 15 year anniversary is mid September (45 days from today) and I want to be 55lbs thinner by then. I will update. Btw: can people lose 2lbs a day?
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Man, i hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the only way your going to be able to drop 55 in 45 safely is on a juice fast, there no amount of cutting carbs, low-fat, potential fucking up your metabolism, for a long time diet, thats going to get you that lean besides juicing, unless you just eat vegetables all day and workout, which isn't going to happen without going into major ketosis, not to mention you'll be passing out every where.
Insanity is one of the hardest workout on the market (it really is, it's not a gimmick) and even then combined with eating a lean diet, your lucky to lose 40-50 lbs in 2 months if your young.
if you want to make a serious health transformation, start by doing it because you want to be healthier and more active, passionate, and have more vitality, grow younger, but it all starts with actually finding out what good nutrition is.
 
jekyllnhyde360;595116 said:
if you want to make a serious health transformation, start by doing it because you want to be healthier and more active, passionate, and have more vitality, grow younger, but it all starts with actually finding out what good nutrition is.
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Excellent Advice.
 
When obese; it always seems like the first 20 lbs can be lost in 2 weeks but after that its a much slower weight loss. But Iam going to mix and match different regiments as weeks go by. Btw: My kids go back to school in 2wks. So i will also have more time for quality PE.
 
Day 5. Lost 4lbs so far. 74lbs to go. Now since Iam also starting back with PE. Does anybody know what should I get for penis weight hanging? Please something comfortable. I want my base to feel the force. Thanks.
 
Disco Dave;595544 said:
Day 5. Lost 4lbs so far. 74lbs to go. Now since Iam also starting back with PE. Does anybody know what should I get for penis weight hanging? Please something comfortable. I want my base to feel the force. Thanks.
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Disco Dave;595548 said:
Thanks DLD. Now I just checked one of youknowme vids on the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words]. But can you just hang in it while sitting or do you have to stand in a room and manually tug at base?
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Disco Dave;595561 said:
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If hanging, yes, you will attach weight on the clamp that is connected to the hanging chamber. Anything from plate weight to a paint can will work:)
 
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Disco Dave;595677 said:
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doublelongdaddy;595797 said:
You have a lot on your plate Dave so take your time and deal with things as you can. The children come before anything and your priorities are in the right place. I want to see you lose weight and build your confidence more than anything so that awesome Mother sticks around. When you are ready for the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] let me know and I will get it out to you at a discount, I really feel for you!
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Thanks DLD.
 
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