Hey Brotherhood,

I was looking through other threads and never quite found the answer, so hopefully someone can help.

I just got my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] today and the issue I am having is wrapping. I have some excess skin (I am circumcised) but still some loose skin from FR.

I have tried [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE bandage[/words] and theraband but when I attach the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] that excess skin rolls forward over the glans. It kind of feels like I can't get the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] tight enough to prevent the skin from rolling forward.

Even at its tightest I feel like I could pull the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] and wrap off if I really tried.

I have considered sports pre-wrap like I have seen done, but does anyone else have this issue?

And does anyone have any suggestions to stop it from happening?

Thank you
 
This video is fantastic! Thank you. I'm going down to get some pre-wrap and a self adhesive bandage now and will give it a go in the morning.

I also asked this question on the other thread with the video, but what is your resistance band connected to?
 
doublelongdaddy;609629 said:
Glad you worked it out.

Thanks DLD, not 100% yet, but each time I put it on, it's getting better.

I do have a question for you though. Is there any problem if the skin does get rolled up over the glans a little bit? I mean will it stretch more skin or something not as productive?
I still feel absolute FIRE in my ligs but is it counter productive to have that skin roll up?
 
JohnnySisco;609852 said:
Thanks DLD, not 100% yet, but each time I put it on, it's getting better.

I do have a question for you though. Is there any problem if the skin does get rolled up over the glans a little bit? I mean will it stretch more skin or something not as productive?
I still feel absolute FIRE in my ligs but is it counter productive to have that skin roll up?

a little bit of skin will roll up on me on occasion. it's very little. i usually know when it happens b/c as i use higher intensities it will be slightly uncomfortable but doesn't stop me b/c i cant be stopped lol
 
I don't get any skin overlap but I'm suing a homemade [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] and I usually attach it very high, maybe 0.25 behind the coronal ridge and after the first 30secs of streching the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] gets up the shaft and rests on the glans.

So, try attaching the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] higher on the shaft and use more [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words] to fill the gaps in the chabger as that could be a problem too.

~Blue.
 
Blueballs;609932 said:
I don't get any skin overlap but I'm suing a homemade [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] and I usually attach it very high, maybe 0.25 behind the coronal ridge and after the first 30secs of streching the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] gets up the shaft and rests on the glans.

So, try attaching the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] higher on the shaft and use more [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words] to fill the gaps in the chabger as that could be a problem too.

~Blue.

Thanks Blue, I will definitely give that a try for my session today!
 
youknowme123321;609909 said:
a little bit of skin will roll up on me on occasion. it's very little. i usually know when it happens b/c as i use higher intensities it will be slightly uncomfortable but doesn't stop me b/c i cant be stopped lol

haha yes I like that theory! No Pain, No gain.. right? It's not a terrible pain, like you say, just a slight discomfort which quickly gets pushed out when I know it will get me bigger
 
JohnnySisco;609948 said:
haha yes I like that theory! No Pain, No gain.. right? It's not a terrible pain, like you say, just a slight discomfort which quickly gets pushed out when I know it will get me bigger

right. and most of the time it i get no overlapping like at this very moment i am getting no over overlapping while doing bundled stretching to the left side using resistant bands.
 
JohnnySisco;609852 said:
Thanks DLD, not 100% yet, but each time I put it on, it's getting better.

I do have a question for you though. Is there any problem if the skin does get rolled up over the glans a little bit? I mean will it stretch more skin or something not as productive?
I still feel absolute FIRE in my ligs but is it counter productive to have that skin roll up?

It may feel counterproductive at first but the skin will stretch quickly to accommodate this and the stretch will eventually go to the ligaments. If the skin feels like it is tight, in any situation, it means the skin needs to be stretched to accommodate the larger size. I still spend a lot of time stretching skin to help with different stretches. I am actually working on a new exercise to lengthen the shaft and it is extremely intense but I noticed that in order for this new stretch to work for me I would need to further stretch the skin.
 
doublelongdaddy;609988 said:
It may feel counterproductive at first but the skin will stretch quickly to accommodate this and the stretch will eventually go to the ligaments. If the skin feels like it is tight, in any situation, it means the skin needs to be stretched to accommodate the larger size. I still spend a lot of time stretching skin to help with different stretches. I am actually working on a new exercise to lengthen the shaft and it is extremely intense but I noticed that in order for this new stretch to work for me I would need to further stretch the skin.

DLD...would you say tight skin could slow down gains???
 
youknowme123321;609993 said:
DLD...would you say tight skin could slow down gains???

Of course, if the skin is too tight it will not allow for elongation and expansion. Stretching the skin is an important part of gaining. What I do is hold the base skin in place so it can not move and using the other hand I stretch the skin along the shaft over the head and use as much intensity as possible. This way it is shaft skin stretching and not contributing to Turkey Neck.
 
doublelongdaddy;610053 said:
Of course, if the skin is too tight it will not allow for elongation and expansion. Stretching the skin is an important part of gaining. What I do is hold the base skin in place so it can not move and using the other hand I stretch the skin along the shaft over the head and use as much intensity as possible. This way it is shaft skin stretching and not contributing to Turkey Neck.

makes a lot of sense. this is something i dont think has been mentioned in here enough. when someone mentions a PE program they never mention skin stretching. i am wondering how much skin tightness may be a factor for hard gainers. i cant think of one time i ever heard someone say they were doing skin stretching.

Is skin stretching a part of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words]? i just glanced through and didn't see it as you described above. i think this would be very good for you do add into that thread since you were doing it.
 
youknowme123321;610135 said:
makes a lot of sense. this is something i dont think has been mentioned in here enough. when someone mentions a PE program they never mention skin stretching. i am wondering how much skin tightness may be a factor for hard gainers. i cant think of one time i ever heard someone say they were doing skin stretching.

Is skin stretching a part of the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words]? i just glanced through and didn't see it as you described above. i think this would be very good for you do add into that thread since you were doing it.

I was going to make a thread on the skin stretching subject. You are right, it has not been discussed enough and really should be. Hopefully I can get the thread written tonight.
 
doublelongdaddy;610728 said:
I was going to make a thread on the skin stretching subject. You are right, it has not been discussed enough and really should be. Hopefully I can get the thread written tonight.

we all hope so to. it seems to be a very important and overlooked thing here in the forums
 
youknowme123321;610778 said:
we all hope so to. it seems to be a very important and overlooked thing here in the forums

On the to do list, along with 100's of others things:)
 
I'm cut and I don't have this problem, how far behind the head are you attaching the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] chamber?

~Blue.
 
Hey Blue,

I am actually cut too, but did some FR and have restored until I get a roll over the glans at all times. Right now I am about 1 cm back from the head and it seems to be working pretty well.

Any other suggestions?
 
I attach it just under the coronal ring and I tight up the bolts as much as I can and by the end of the session it gets a little bit over the glans.

Anyway, if it's the skin streching that causes the problem it should go away after the first 5-10 mins of streching and fade away after every week as the skin streches out.
 
doublelongdaddy;611993 said:
Indeed! Much of mastering a tool is looking to those who have been successful with it. Wrapping is an art in itself and since none of us are exactly the same it will take self-discovery to find what works best. What I can say is anyone who has had problems with any good tool, if they remain tenacious and determined, will master it. So many threads have been started by men in complete frustration with a device only to read a few posts later they mastered it and they go on to make great gains. Attaching a tool to the penis is not something we are born knowing, it takes practice and learning.

And now that I have mastered the wrapping technique that works personally for me... I can use the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] to it's full potential (while unlocking my own full potential) It really is an awesome tool! I actually accept a little skin roll over because I know that the skin does need to be stretched as well in order to grow.

The thing that I love about the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] so much is that once you do find exactly what works for you... the stretch you get from it, and all of the different ways it can be used and the complete functionality it has, is unbelievable!
 
JohnnySisco;612002 said:
And now that I have mastered the wrapping technique that works personally for me... I can use the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] to it's full potential (while unlocking my own full potential) It really is an awesome tool! I actually accept a little skin roll over because I know that the skin does need to be stretched as well in order to grow.

The thing that I love about the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] so much is that once you do find exactly what works for you... the stretch you get from it, and all of the different ways it can be used and the complete functionality it has, is unbelievable!

Awesome to hear! And yes, once it is mastered the variations of stretching is vast. There are still Brothers coming out with new ways to use it, things I never thought of.
 
JohnnySisco;612002 said:
And now that I have mastered the wrapping technique that works personally for me... I can use the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] to it's full potential (while unlocking my own full potential) It really is an awesome tool! I actually accept a little skin roll over because I know that the skin does need to be stretched as well in order to grow.

The thing that I love about the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] so much is that once you do find exactly what works for you... the stretch you get from it, and all of the different ways it can be used and the complete functionality it has, is unbelievable!

Great to hear!! PE tools like the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] are so great when they begin to work for us and we get acclimated to them. would you please share how you are wrapping? thanks
 
youknowme123321;612166 said:
Great to hear!! PE tools like the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] are so great when they begin to work for us and we get acclimated to them. would you please share how you are wrapping? thanks

With every tool it takes time and patience to master, never give up because of frustration, take a break and come back to it with a fresh mind. Everyone who sticks with it will eventually make it work.
 
youknowme123321;612166 said:
Great to hear!! PE tools like the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] are so great when they begin to work for us and we get acclimated to them. would you please share how you are wrapping? thanks

It is basically using the same wrap that you came up with and showed in the video, except since I have a little bit of slack skin I let it roll onto the glans instead of stretching straight out before putting the pre-wrap on. Then I do like you said and make a ridge with the sticky [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words] and attach behind it. Since the slack skin is already rolled forward a little bit under the wrap, it no longer rolls forward.

Long story short, it's your wrapping method without holding onto the glans outstretched while wrapping. I just gently lift it with no tension
 
It is so crazy how we need so many different methods of wrapping to cover all the Brothers here. So happy we started the wrapping forum, I forget who asked for this but what a good move it was.
 
JohnnySisco;612174 said:
It is basically using the same wrap that you came up with and showed in the video, except since I have a little bit of slack skin I let it roll onto the glans instead of stretching straight out before putting the pre-wrap on. Then I do like you said and make a ridge with the sticky [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words] and attach behind it. Since the slack skin is already rolled forward a little bit under the wrap, it no longer rolls forward.

Long story short, it's your wrapping method without holding onto the glans outstretched while wrapping. I just gently lift it with no tension

glad you made it work for you
 
I've been using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] for a week or so now. The bundled stretches are amazing but my turkey neck is starting to become larger I'm guessing from all the skin over lap. A bit worried :/
 
Halp;614645 said:
I've been using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] for a week or so now. The bundled stretches are amazing but my turkey neck is starting to become larger I'm guessing from all the skin over lap. A bit worried :/

Be sure that when you wrap you bring as much skin back, towards your scrotum, as possible. This will prevent Turkey Neck. also, if you are doing manual stretching be sure to always anchor one hand at the base, holding back skin, to prevent any TN. Also, there will always be a certain degree of skin stretch necessary to make room for tissue gains.
 
Halp;614645 said:
I've been using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] for a week or so now. The bundled stretches are amazing but my turkey neck is starting to become larger I'm guessing from all the skin over lap. A bit worried :/

I have actually had that problem too, but I think I found a way to fight back at it.

Awhile back DLD talked about some elastic hair bands that you could pick up at just about any store. I remember he said he used them as a like a cock ring after girth workouts. They are simple and black (maybe he will chime in to give more details but they might be made by scunci) but I take one and pull all the skin from my TN back and then wrap the black elastic hair band around my balls with the TN held back into place. It doesn't go anywhere when I'm using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words]

Seems to be working ok for now
 
JohnnySisco;614914 said:
I have actually had that problem too, but I think I found a way to fight back at it.

Awhile back DLD talked about some elastic hair bands that you could pick up at just about any store. I remember he said he used them as a like a cock ring after girth workouts. They are simple and black (maybe he will chime in to give more details but they might be made by scunci) but I take one and pull all the skin from my TN back and then wrap the black elastic hair band around my balls with the TN held back into place. It doesn't go anywhere when I'm using the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words]

Seems to be working ok for now

Yeah, those are the Goody Brand, no pinch hair bands. They can be doubled up to make them tighter. There are 20 to a pack so they last forever and I think they cost $1 a pack.
 
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