...And Gained? I'm still not sure about how it works. I tried to research it through thunders but that place is confusing to me. If I read correctly Xenolith gained an inch and a half before his gains halted and he adopted the IPR routine. I don't see how someone like DLD can gain so much and put a lot of effort into Penis Enlargement and then someone gain and do hardly any work compared to DLD. The guys at thunders swear by it but it is still foriegn to me.

I guess I'm having trouble understanding the theory...has anyone here tried it or is thinking about trying it. I find it hard to do less than 10 workouts in a month, then cement with [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] for a couple of months before taking 2 months for decon. Does the penis really need two months to heal. I know its not a muscle but when I take a decon for weightlifting its only a week or two. Penis Enlargement has become my lifeblood and to go without pulling my dick for two months would be like torture. Why not just take 2-3 weeks off.

If anyone understands the theory or has used it please post away.
 
ye im thinking of trying it. the idea is that you have micro phases and macro phases. each is I P R. the I stage is yor workout, the p stage is [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words]/adc and r phase is time off. for the 2 weeks you spend in the MACRO I phase (this counts as the entire I phase (which consists of workout, [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words], rest). then you need a month in p phase and 2 months in r phase. the 2 weeks in i phase is different for everybody, to my understanding there is no need to go into p phase until your gains start to slow. the 2 months off is to allow your dick to decondition - allowing for a work effective workout (more gains) in the next phase. sorry for quick explanation, have to go out :P
 
longstretch said:
...And Gained? I'm still not sure about how it works. I tried to research it through thunders but that place is confusing to me. If I read correctly Xenolith gained an inch and a half before his gains halted and he adopted the IPR routine. I don't see how someone like DLD can gain so much and put a lot of effort into Penis Enlargement and then someone gain and do hardly any work compared to DLD. The guys at thunders swear by it but it is still foriegn to me.

I guess I'm having trouble understanding the theory...has anyone here tried it or is thinking about trying it. I find it hard to do less than 10 workouts in a month, then cement with [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] for a couple of months before taking 2 months for decon. Does the penis really need two months to heal. I know its not a muscle but when I take a decon for weightlifting its only a week or two. Penis Enlargement has become my lifeblood and to go without pulling my dick for two months would be like torture. Why not just take 2-3 weeks off.

If anyone understands the theory or has used it please post away.

I hate to answer it like this but it needs to be sighted. Many men can easily state gains they have made through various methods, the problem arises when proof is desired. Making massive gains with little effort are just unbelievable. We all have the same skin, tissue, veins, cells, etc. Making gains in a unbelievable fashion sets need for evidence. Many will site me as not producing enough evidence of my gains but many of those you feel this way are not members to my site where video (something that is not easily faked) is available for critique and proof.

Advances in Penis Enlargement are something I treasure, but without the same proof that is expected by me I can't except this as more than hearsay.

Penis Enlargement is very basic, even though many try to make in complicated, pull the penis and it will become longer, expand the capacity of the penis and it will become thicker.

Are there short cuts? I truly do not think so. We all have the same tissue, blood, skin, etc. Some will state that genetics plays a role but this is completely silly, we are not dealing with muscle we are dealing with equal tissue between and man (any for this example) women. {Pull it it become longer, increase blood pressure and it becomes thicker.
 
It would still be interesting to see if this works. I don't think this has anything to do with shortcuts. What's at stake is what is the fastest/most efficient way to gain. I for one could not find time or maintain the motivation necessary to Penis Enlargement everyday. I could however have perfect sessions with (5 on 2 off) or (6 on 1 off).

What intrigues me about IPR is that at least there is some science behind it. If it works it will revolutionize Penis Enlargement. Think about Arnold Swarchenegger. In his day nobody really worked out scientifically. Nobody worried about hormone levels, nitric oxide, or whatever modern bodybuilders worry about today. Arnold ate right and worked out like a madman. Today bodybuilders are finding routines that save time and get the most out of a workout like HST.

DLD you are like the Swarchenegger of Penis Enlargement. You have a very strong mental concentration, you make up your own exercises and routine, and you probably work your dick the hardest anyone has ever worked it. And for these you have gained. I seriously doubt that someone could make the huge gains you have made with out Penis Enlargementing similar to you. IPR has potential but it would take a lifetime of that to accomplish what you did in a few short years.

But I could never do Arnold's routines. They are way too hard and long for me. Arnold's body healed at a unusual fast pace and he had huge amounts of time to invest in bodybuilding. The same goes with your routines. Though I'm not a member of your paysite I have done the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] and seen some of your other routines. You my friend have a lot of time to invest in Penis Enlargement, or at least way more than me. I could do the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] fine but I never gained from it and I was doing it like 5-6 days a week. I gained from other routines so I am a case in which your routine did not work. It worked for you. God did it ever. I just wish I would of gained 2 inches from it.

While working out like Arnold would produce gains his routine would not be suited for everyone. Some people will gain on minimal investment and some will need to workout like a madman and the rest are in between. The same goes for Penis Enlargement.

And then everyone will hit a plateau at somepoint. There are a couple things you can do to break out of a plateau. You can change the routine, intensity, volume, or you can decondition yourself. If you decondition yourself when you start back your body will not be used to the strain of working you dick out and will quickly regain what was lost and even gain more. DLD you chose the first 3 options. IPR chooses to change it all and vary everything. For this reason I can agree with IPR.

Pe is very basic...in its basic form. So is anything else. What I'm wondering is what is the fastest way to gain an inch. I think with experimentation using IPR principles we could see exactly what the Penis needs, how much of it does it need, and when does it needs it.

Something I still don't understand is where did they come up with the numbers. Why have only a few workouts followed by a couple of weeks of [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] and then 2 months of rest. Who says your dick needs 2 months to decon. I think this could spark some interesting conversations and drive us deeper into finding what works the best. Why not tweak it to see exactly what works better and what does not. Include more workouts and less deconditioning. I think ADSing is the best way to cement gains but why not hang a little during that time also.

Evo if you do start it take DLD's advice and take before and after pics. I recommend anyone who has hit a plateau and can not afford to spend more time or go more intense with Penis Enlargement to try IPR. I can see its potential it just needs more people to try it. What else have you got to lose.
 
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the amount of time peing vs decon and [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] struck me as odd too! it seems funny that you would pe for like 6 times every 3 or so months. but then again when some people were using it (xenolith, babbis) they had substantial gains within those 2 weeks (0.25~0.4 inch) and then cemented it. if you did that 4 times in a year thats over 1 inch gain! id personally take that any day! the problem is that this routine was made according to xenos penis and body. 2 weeks may not be enough for some (you should keep doing it untill your gains practically stop). he found that anyone using this protocol would find 2 months adequate decon time, but, if you increased your time in I phase then you would also need to increase your decon. like i said i will try it (need to decon first - but only after my clamping routine) and post pics of any gains :)
 
Longstretch

The IPR protocol has been discussed here at length in this thread:

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26228


DLD,

I totally understand what you're saying. But I for one am I going to try this. Not because I want a p.e. magic bullet or short cut. But because I have repeatedly failed to make gains for years. Longstretch makes a good point about people being different, not everyone can be Arnold.

The two week phase of the IPR seems just about right to me. Thats how long i have a good stretch of Penis Enlargement (no pun intended!) before I get hit with erection loss, erection shrinkage, pain. etc. etc. At this point i have nothing to lose if i p.e. 5 times in half a year, or some shit like that. (I've also been stupid enough never to have tried an ADC or [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words].)

I am on a decon break right now. I will definately report on my IPR endeavor
 
Thanks a bunch liLE,
I think I understand the theory very well. Vaseline Knight has a way with words. I'm almost through with my decon. and my max-vac is on the way. I will definitely try this as soon as possible. Oh I'm so excited.:)
 
I'm taking a decon break as we speak. I'm one week in, and I already noticed 1/8" gain from RESTING. I was obviously overtraining with my two one-hour clamping workouts. I'll be sure to let you know the results of my decon break (shooting for 3-4 months) and whatever follows.
 
doublelongdaddy said:
I hate to answer it like this but it needs to be sighted. Many men can easily state gains they have made through various methods, the problem arises when proof is desired. Making massive gains with little effort are just unbelievable. We all have the same skin, tissue, veins, cells, etc. Making gains in a unbelievable fashion sets need for evidence. Many will site me as not producing enough evidence of my gains but many of those you feel this way are not members to my site where video (something that is not easily faked) is available for critique and proof.

Advances in Penis Enlargement are something I treasure, but without the same proof that is expected by me I can't except this as more than hearsay.

Penis Enlargement is very basic, even though many try to make in complicated, pull the penis and it will become longer, expand the capacity of the penis and it will become thicker.

Are there short cuts? I truly do not think so. We all have the same tissue, blood, skin, etc. Some will state that genetics plays a role but this is completely silly, we are not dealing with muscle we are dealing with equal tissue between and man (any for this example) women. {Pull it it become longer, increase blood pressure and it becomes thicker.

very well said.

However, Xenolith has provided such proof. First in his knowledgable posts, second in many people who follow his routine and gained, and thirdly by measured pics all from the same angle. I can't say he's gained much in the girth department, but his length gains are solid.
 
From what I've read at thunder's it's pretty divided. While IPR has worked well for some there, it clearly hasn't been enough stress to make others gain, so to say that they guys there swear by it is a little misleading.

I don't think my physiology would respond to such a small amount of work, but I'll probably give it a shot at some point when I'm too busy for intense Penis Enlargement.
 
spinner2 said:
From what I've read at thunder's it's pretty divided. While IPR has worked well for some there, it clearly hasn't been enough stress to make others gain, so to say that they guys there swear by it is a little misleading.

I don't think my physiology would respond to such a small amount of work, but I'll probably give it a shot at some point when I'm too busy for intense Penis Enlargement.


Well, If you've ever made good newbie gains, then chances are this protocol will work for you. After all, all it's doing is restoring the newb conditions that our penises originally had and disrupting the conditioning process of the penile tissues to the stress we present to them daily (in my case twice daily).

Penis Enlargement is a longgg journey and unless you were born with a 7.5x6 and 3-4 months of Penis Enlargement puts you in the 8.5x6.25 region, you're not gonna be satisfied with 4 months of Penis Enlargement. I personally haven't gained anything in the past 2 years (length wise) and while I have gained some girth, it hasn't been a good return on investement given the amount of time I have put into Penis Enlargement.

I know for a fact in bodybuilding that less time in the gym and more time resting is definately more than more time in the gym and less resting. And that's always worked well for me, so I might as well adapt the same strategy for Penis Enlargement.
 
Yeah... I made fuck all newbie gains. I guess hammering away hours a day might be the only effective way for me to make progress.

Maybe I'll still perform a similar IPR protocol at some point...heavier than usual IPR, but following the same basic principles.
 
Well got my max-vac yesterday. I was gonna start today...but I got sidetracked. So tomorrow will be my first IPR workout day and my first day hanging. I'm using the no-pump method in case some vets or somebody with experience has any advice.

I like the idea of decon b/c after a while you hit a plateau. Even bodybuilders take a week off every now and then. I've heard after Mr.Usa or Mr. Universe that some will take a whole month off before restarting. This allows everything to return to normal and unadapts, don't know if that's a word, your muscles so you can train them again. I think anything fleshy that can be trained, like a cock would respond to the same technique.

So I'm starting tomorrow. I'm gonna throw in some 5 min pumping sets and slowly add them into my (I) phase. I really think these concepts will apply for me. I'm in college and most of your time will be ADSing which I could do in class or anywhere. It will save me countless hrs each night trying to build a massive one. I think any change in routine is good too after you have become adapted. Plus I just think my body will respond to lighter weight for long period of time.
 
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