As some of you know I'm somewhat of a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] aficionado, so it makes sense that I'm always trying new stuff with my favorite PE tool, sorry dld... [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] came second I my life.. (It is a close second)

I have written to some length on the virtues of cockrings as seen in the two threads in my sig if you are viewing on a PC, http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...oking-back-on-a-year.html?highlight=Cockrings
If you are not...

So, where the hell is this going? Gains my brothers.

Tonight I broke new ground using a cockring, specifically the tantus 1.5 soft ring, google search it. It's by far the best out there. 7 bucks on amazon.

I use one cockring when pumping to get the biggest possible erection before I go in and to protect myself from gaitor bite. However, tonight I snapped two on, one after the other on the sweet spot that takes the brunt of the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] bellows and I can tell you brothers, this was a game changer.

I pumped all the way up past 200mm with ease on a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]herc[/words] and held it there for over 20 min with the help of a wine vac.

The beauty of using two of these tantus 1.5 soft rings is two fold. It's gives you nearly an inch of protection when combined. This is usually the exact length of my shaft that is beat up by the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words].

The other virtue of using two tantus 1.5 soft rings right next to One another is outlined in the title. The protection these give you is like wearing a suit of armor. There is very very little discomfort from pumping or repumping, which is arguably the most uncomfortable part of using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words]. The thickness of the rings and the softness provides both the comfort and protection that you need in order to make solid gains and break plateus. It's like velvet that can take a bullet. As an aside, I just advised a brother that was no longer seeing [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] gains, that he needed to increase the intensity to keep progressing. There is a limit to what you can do with your penis when unprotected in the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words]. And before you think, wait friar Fige, there's already a great solution for this issue- the pump sleeve. I have had zero success with the pump sleeve, and I know I'm not alone. It's cumbersome, drops pressure and still can Cause issues that come from the gaitor like accordion dick... This is for those that haven't had good results with the sleeve.

There is a caveat. As some men have tried using rings and pumping.

1. I only use tantus 1.5 soft rings. I don't know what the hell is gonna happen with anything else. You use a hair tie or shoe lace? Good luck. I got no idea what's up with that. The best out there is by far the tantus 1.5 soft ring. I tried the cheap ass Gummie ones with some luck until they broke like two weeks into using them.

2. If you got a crazy wide base, this won't help you at all. You have to be able to clear the base opening with a cockring on to form a seal. Luckily, I have a baseball bat penis, so this is perfect for me, but if your girth is 5-5.5 I think you will be fine.

So there you go. Pump like crazy, strap on a couple of $7 cockrings, use one after to hold your pump and have your girl pm to say thanks for helping you grow a monster cock.

Peace.
 
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I am loving this, I will be back to post my reply tonight...my time is running out fro computer use this morning:)
 
Good stuff Figi!

True, the sleeve isn't always the greatest choice. I tried with several different types, but your advised cock ring method is I think a lot easier. No stretching the sleeve over the pump, no loss of pressure or moving of the sleeve if you manage to get it on.

I think this cock ring method has two points which I see as crucial: the softness / pliability of the ring and the thickness and width of the ring! The ring mentioned by Figi from my viewpoint has the properties. Using a ring like the one mentioned, the pressure distributes more evenly for the penis, compared to an O-ring type ring.
I had a similar style ring as the Tantus, the Doc Johnson [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Titan[/words] cock ring, but I think Tantus is made of different material. (The Doc Johnson broke, it did last longer than I was anticipating, but the Tantus, from the looks of it, looks more rigid / long lasting.)

In the past I've actually used a "sleeve" cut out from one of these "loveholes". Problem with those can be they're too thick most of the time. The condom method has unfortunately this sliding effect and doesn't help so much.
So, a really good find Figi, maybe I need to get some more rings now!

I think even with different rings, this can be a doable method. One must pay more attention though, I think, as the ring will actually create more pressure, at least to my understanding.
As always, caution pays!
 
Yeah buddy! The ones in outline are the shit. Id get a few if you want to try something new... Glad there is another brother that sees the virtue in this technique.
arkailija;633959 said:
Good stuff Figi!

True, the sleeve isn't always the greatest choice. I tried with several different types, but your advised cock ring method is I think a lot easier. No stretching the sleeve over the pump, no loss of pressure or moving of the sleeve if you manage to get it on.

I think this cock ring method has two points which I see as crucial: the softness / pliability of the ring and the thickness and width of the ring! The ring mentioned by Figi from my viewpoint has the properties. Using a ring like the one mentioned, the pressure distributes more evenly for the penis, compared to an O-ring type ring.
I had a similar style ring as the Tantus, the Doc Johnson [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]Titan[/words] cock ring, but I think Tantus is made of different material. (The Doc Johnson broke, it did last longer than I was anticipating, but the Tantus, from the looks of it, looks more rigid / long lasting.)

In the past I've actually used a "sleeve" cut out from one of these "loveholes". Problem with those can be they're too thick most of the time. The condom method has unfortunately this sliding effect and doesn't help so much.
So, a really good find Figi, maybe I need to get some more rings now!

I think even with different rings, this can be a doable method. One must pay more attention though, I think, as the ring will actually create more pressure, at least to my understanding.
As always, caution pays!
 
arkailija;633959 said:
I think even with different rings, this can be a doable method. One must pay more attention though, I think, as the ring will actually create more pressure, at least to my understanding.
As always, caution pays!


This is a very important point, if the ring is too tight it could cause Thrombosis or even tissue destruction. I prefer using a latex or rubber ring that has enough flex to prevent this. Some may want one that is a bit tighter as arkailija is speaking of and in that case exercise much caution. A cock ring is a very important part of gaining and healing in girth but be careful.
 
I don't know why I throw caution to wind more so than the avg guy. To be honest the worst penis injury I have ever incurred was at the hand of an over zealous hand job when I was 16... 3/4 of my glands looked like I dragged em on asphalt. I now what you guys are saying too. I just understand that I have worked my way up to be able to pump much higher than the avg [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] user and I understand the need to push the envelope in order to stave off plateus.
 
BornInFigi;633997 said:
I don't know why I throw caution to wind more so than the avg guy. To be honest the worst penis injury I have ever incurred was at the hand of an over zealous hand job when I was 16... 3/4 of my glands looked like I dragged em on asphalt. I now what you guys are saying too. I just understand that I have worked my way up to be able to pump much higher than the avg [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] user and I understand the need to push the envelope in order to stave off plateus.

The penis is very resilient and even when an injury occurs is usually is not a permanent issue. More serious injuries come from trauma while erect, like missing the hole during sex and bending an erection to break. In PE most injuries heal on their own but sometimes it can put us out of commission for a long time.
 
doublelongdaddy;634168 said:
The penis is very resilient and even when an injury occurs is usually is not a permanent issue. More serious injuries come from trauma while erect, like missing the hole during sex and bending an erection to break. In PE most injuries heal on their own but sometimes it can put us out of commission for a long time.

Ala Rodman? Yes. Indeed. More often than not I think most guys here know to ease into things or to not pump to max right away etc. however, extreme [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] judo does sometimes require explicit instructions not to blow ones penis up and or off.
 
I use a short piece (4-5 cm) of AB Silicone "Anti turtle sleeve". I have found it best to protect from gator bite and it also doesn't squueze too tight. After a session, I wrap it once on top itself so it becomes like loose cockring but little bit tighter than the normal tension. It helps to keep the pump up. I've tried other cock rings too but have found the AB just perfect for me. If you do however order it, it _might_ be too tight as a new so do some pre-stretching to get it looser.
 
pedud;636765 said:
Would 5.75-6" in girth be pushing it for this ring? I'd like to buy a traditional cock ring vs the unconventional methods but I'd like something that's not too tight.

I think it is best to go with the cheap latex rings that come in a package of 10, they are usually black and cost a couple bucks. I like them because they are tight enough without being too tight. Plus, you can buy multi packs of different sizes.
 
pedud;636765 said:
Would 5.75-6" in girth be pushing it for this ring? I'd like to buy a traditional cock ring vs the unconventional methods but I'd like something that's not too tight.

I don't know. How do you want to use it? Strictly after a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] or girth session, you'll probably ok. If you want to use it in a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] as a protective device I'd say probably not. Although, after [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] I'm usually 5.5-5.75 in girth, and I can still make it clear the tube, but just narrowly.
 
Jumpzilla!

Would love to do more pumping and will definitely be using this method as well. Others should try as well!
I just have a sore on my cock, so training has been very little. Really weird sore. I'm going to try very easy session today.

Others with conditioned cocks and healthy skin; go ahead and try BornInFigi's method! And don't tell me you don't have cock rings; go get some or buy some O-rings.
 
arkailija;638511 said:
Jumpzilla!

Would love to do more pumping and will definitely be using this method as well. Others should try as well!
I just have a sore on my cock, so training has been very little. Really weird sore. I'm going to try very easy session today.
.

What happened? A blister?
 
doublelongdaddy;638516 said:
What happened? A blister?

Something like it. Treating it with care and nurture I know best, several creams etc., cleaning with mild antiseptic water.
I'll be back! Well, although, I never left; despite not being able to do physical work outs so well, the mind works and I do read the forum on a daily basis.
 
arkailija;638545 said:
Something like it. Treating it with care and nurture I know best, several creams etc., cleaning with mild antiseptic water.
I'll be back! Well, although, I never left; despite not being able to do physical work outs so well, the mind works and I do read the forum on a daily basis.

Das it man. I was just not into being on the forum when I was nursing an unrelated infection. Glad you're not as big a puss as me.
 
BornInFigi;638593 said:
Das it man. I was just not into being on the forum when I was nursing an unrelated infection. Glad you're not as big a puss as me.

I wouldn't see it like that, don't put yourself down like that! [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] is just such a routine place for me to come, as I'm on my computer a lot.
I actually tried [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] last night, very short session. Got some slight [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]gaiter[/words] bite and pinching from the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Hercules[/words], but otherwise fine, didn't affect the sore so badly, so I think I can ease my way back to pumping again. Of course my own advice is to have healthy skin for work outs!

And sometimes, taking a break is a good thing. One thing, that I could have written to the appreciation thread is that my EQ has been quite excellent lately! Of course this is partially relative to not working out so much, but anyway, still something to appreciate I think.
Now that I have started my dancing game sessions again, I hope to lose some weight and gain some length that way, I feel that my pad is hiding an inch or so! And surely I must moderate my diet, that is one thing.
 
arkailija;638545 said:
Something like it. Treating it with care and nurture I know best, several creams etc., cleaning with mild antiseptic water.
I'll be back! Well, although, I never left; despite not being able to do physical work outs so well, the mind works and I do read the forum on a daily basis.

Sorry to hear that my Brother, I wish you a speedy recovery.
 
Oh my, I forgot to thank you DLD!
Thank you!

Recovery is going well, I actually bought some anti scarring gel, as the wound is closed, but the skin is bit blotchy. A bit new situation for me, but I've dealt with several sores during my short lifetime.

Really looking forward using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words]. My routine was pretty much 5 times a week, some manuals here and there. As as mentioned, I started my cardio exercises again with the dancing game. (Really nerdy, I know, but it gets me very sweaty and my heart pounding.)
Looking to lose some of the fat pad and excess stomach. When I was younger, I was about 29 inches waist or so. Now puffed up to around 34-36. Too much food, not enough exercise, I can only blame myself. But thank goodness I can also yield the power to change myself, with the help of the Brotherhood as well!

So much off topic, so I throw something relating to the subject;
One thing I've noticed from using ona holes or love holes, what ever you wish to call them, that they do, some brands, wear out.
However, when the word down has happened or you're just bored with the hole (considering some are quite cheap), it's not such a problem to take scissors and cut that hole into a sleeve, especially if you turn it inside out.
Hmhh, I wonder if that made any sense. But I've done so, especially Tengas do wear out. Well, they are considered to be one time use. Well, apart from the more expensive models, which even those are said to be good for 50-75 uses, where as [words=http://fleshlight.sjv.io/c/348327/302851/4702]Fleshlight[/words] are advertised as a "lifetime companion." But I'm sure break down is inevitable in certain sense at least.

OK, ramble off, best of success to all my brothers here!
 
I've been lokking at the tantus website... whats the key difference between Super Soft and Beginner C-Rings? "Beginner" triples the price of the "Super Soft" and just wondering wheres the quaility difference between them.
 
Bumped for a few of my bothers. You know who you are.

Do your homework here guys. Then experiement and we can start a dialouge and I can help out after that.
 
Bumping again if SIM and Templ have any intrest in this anymore. I lost your pm that wasn't a pm but here is your info here. Let me know if you have any questions.
 
kerman;639264 said:
I've been lokking at the tantus website... whats the key difference between Super Soft and Beginner C-Rings? "Beginner" triples the price of the "Super Soft" and just wondering wheres the quaility difference between them.

The beginer one is a very large one designed for using around both the cick and balls and is not [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words] compatible. One needs a couple of the super soft 7 dollar ones.
 
You know what I was gonna try with one of my jelly rings today but I forgot. It give more internal pressure right? Should I expect any alien sensations?
 
templnite;664942 said:
You know what I was gonna try with one of my jelly rings today but I forgot. It give more internal pressure right? Should I expect any alien sensations?

Should up your eq, pump will be stronger and you might feel it more internally. No alien sensation. Unless you are feeling Shortdick.
 
I am hoping to have names tagged here soon so when you make a post and want certain members to see you can simply type their name and it will link them to the thread. Hashtags will also be incorporated this year. All of these upgrades we have to create ourselves because no such software exists on the platform we use. This was the same with the integration of video, we were the first forum in the world to have this option. Good stuff happening in the future and even though we are a traditional family here we still need to stay current with how the web reaches us.
 
doublelongdaddy;664979 said:
I am hoping to have names tagged here soon so when you make a post and want certain members to see you can simply type their name and it will link them to the thread. Hashtags will also be incorporated this year. All of these upgrades we have to create ourselves because no such software exists on the platform we use. This was the same with the integration of video, we were the first forum in the world to have this option. Good stuff happening in the future and even though we are a traditional family here we still need to stay current with how the web reaches us.

I can dig it.
 
BornInFigi;664970 said:
Should up your eq, pump will be stronger and you might feel it more internally. No alien sensation. Unless you are feeling Shortdick.

Bro I was having a long day, so again I forgot to use the ring <:(. One of the bigger reasons for it is I'm not using my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] too much lately, mainly only as warm-up. I know you have a special way of using your [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] that gives you real expansion, but i'm not too familiarized with those methods.

I definitely will use the ring though, and I'll make sure to update here :blush:
 
templnite;665047 said:
Bro I was having a long day, so again I forgot to use the ring <:(. One of the bigger reasons for it is I'm not using my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] too much lately, mainly only as warm-up. I know you have a special way of using your [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] that gives you real expansion, but i'm not too familiarized with those methods.

I definitely will use the ring though, and I'll make sure to update here :blush:

There's nothing special about what I do. I pump just like everyone else. Lee priest, a body builder, was asked what the secret to his massive arms was. There's no real secret. There's only one way to build big arms- lots of biceps curls. He did the same exercises of his contemporaries. He simply just did more of them with greater intensity. I use the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] just like everyone else. I simply pump harder and for longer than most guys. I think the key to my success is constantly pulling pressure as I go with the wine vac. The max pressure i start with is the same as when I conclude. That's my only trick. Most guys will pump higher over the course of their workout. Or taper down as they lose pressure. I keep the intensity as high as possible. Constant intensity is the key my friend.
 
Bumping this thread, I mentioned it in another one.

A great way to make gains, especially if there's a halt with just using using the pump and nothing else. (Like the Vacu-Vin mod or others.)
One could progress from regular [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]hydropump[/words] usage to the Ironman Armor and then after some time to Ironman Armor combined with the Vacu-Vin modification. A gradual momentum in terms of strength!
 
arkailija;710178 said:
Bumping this thread, I mentioned it in another one.

A great way to make gains, especially if there's a halt with just using using the pump and nothing else. (Like the Vacu-Vin mod or others.)
One could progress from regular [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]hydropump[/words] usage to the Ironman Armor and then after some time to Ironman Armor combined with the Vacu-Vin modification. A gradual momentum in terms of strength!

Running it dry?
 
Nope, [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]hydropumping[/words] of course. It's been a long time since I've done air pumping.
Just an idea with the regular [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]hydropump[/words] usage, then utilizing Friar Fige's armor protocol and then moving up to the Vacu-Vin modification.
 
arkailija;710202 said:
Nope, [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]hydropumping[/words] of course. It's been a long time since I've done air pumping.
Just an idea with the regular [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]hydropump[/words] usage, then utilizing Friar Fige's armor protocol and then moving up to the Vacu-Vin modification.

OK, I got you.
 
arkailija;710202 said:
Nope, [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]hydropumping[/words] of course. It's been a long time since I've done air pumping.
Just an idea with the regular [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]hydropump[/words] usage, then utilizing Friar Fige's armor protocol and then moving up to the Vacu-Vin modification.

I would just go straight for the vacuvin mod right off the bat with some armor. The whole reason I came up with the armor was to push the envelope of what BMs could do in terms of pressure without crushing my dick. Also, if you have an extra ring, it doesn’t hurt to get them balls out of the way for maximum pumping. Stay safe out there tho. Armor+vac mod + a big pump is dangerous in the ya da of the overzealous: myself included.
 
BornInFigi;747411 said:
I would just go straight for the vacuvin mod right off the bat with some armor. The whole reason I came up with the armor was to push the envelope of what BMs could do in terms of pressure without crushing my dick. Also, if you have an extra ring, it doesn’t hurt to get them balls out of the way for maximum pumping. Stay safe out there tho. Armor+vac mod + a big pump is dangerous in the ya da of the overzealous: myself included.

Wow, wehere have you been my Brother? Have not seen you for a minute.
 
doublelongdaddy;747420 said:
Wow, wehere have you been my Brother? Have not seen you for a minute.

Just living life and trying to get ahead, dear brother. Working two jobs and taking night school classes left me out of the game. I got engaged and the woman I love are starting a family. Doesn’t leave a whole lot of extra time to invent hacks for dick pumps or help out the brotherhood. Sorry for leaving the forum for as long as I have, but it seems like you guys got along good without me. Everyone been making gains, right?
 
BornInFigi;747552 said:
Just living life and trying to get ahead, dear brother. Working two jobs and taking night school classes left me out of the game. I got engaged and the woman I love are starting a family. Doesn’t leave a whole lot of extra time to invent hacks for dick pumps or help out the brotherhood. Sorry for leaving the forum for as long as I have, but it seems like you guys got along good without me. Everyone been making gains, right?

Things are going well! I am happy to hear about your love and family life, nothing more precious in the world! I hope you can visit more often just to let us know how things are going with your life. PE means a lot to all of us, but even more knowing you are dong well in the world (outside the Brotherhood) is always inspiring! God Bless you my Brother!
 
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