I apologize if I am not politically correct , Gay, Homosexual men etc . . . .

Ya never know these days who will get offended or insulted? Anyway, you all know what I mean and I apologize if I offended anyone. This thread may open up some people's minds to the "Gay World" or help people cum outta the closet ?

I have a thread/post started about women liking big thick cocks & regarding size mattering.

Now, do Gay men like big thick cocks ? Or just medium cocks ? Is it a "looks" thing or does size actually help with sex ? I am not gay, that is why I posted these concerns?

I mean, if I was gay, I wouldnt want a 8"x7" cock in my asshole ? An 8"x7" cock looks nice though ?

Lets hear some stories.

Open to advice, opinions or suggestions.
 
Of course they do!! I'm not gay, but overheard a gay guy at uni here saying how he was looking for a companion, and that how he'd really like to be fucked with a guy with a "big cock."
 
I'd have to concur with the above statement. No pun intended, but alot of those cats are size queens. Gay dudes are very hard on each other when it comes to appearance and sexuality.
 
everyone loves big cocks. even straight men like looking at other mens big cocks in the lockerrooms.

no one like small cocks, except maybe virgin females... but even then, it's only for a short time. and even further, no one likes a guy with a small cock. once it's known a guy has a small cock, from there on out people lose respect for him that they once had, and tease him about it at every opportunity they get.
 
It's sad but true. I remember a guy with a very small penis. They were fuckin' cruel to him--called him "jelly bean." I felt bad for him. How could you not end up with a complex? I hope he found a good woman who didn't give a shit about his size.
 
goinfor11x7 said:
It's sad but true. I remember a guy with a very small penis. They were fuckin' cruel to him--called him "jelly bean." I felt bad for him. How could you not end up with a complex? I hope he found a good woman who didn't give a shit about his size.


You do end up with a complex. Hell I have a complex. I'm obsessed with my small penis and hate and lash out at anyone who says bad things about small ones.

I wonder... all the news reports you hear of rapists and child molesters, if they are guys with small penises. Because, think about it; women won't have sex with them, so they resort to rape and molesting children.

I'm not saying I'm going to rape anyone or molest children, because I have a huge amount of self-control. But I can definitely see a person that doesn't have a lot of self-control doing it because he has a small cock and women don't give it to him willingly.
 
misterious said:
You do end up with a complex. Hell I have a complex. I'm obsessed with my small penis and hate and lash out at anyone who says bad things about small ones.

I wonder... all the news reports you hear of rapists and child molesters, if they are guys with small penises. Because, think about it; women won't have sex with them, so they resort to rape and molesting children.

I'm not saying I'm going to rape anyone or molest children, because I have a huge amount of self-control. But I can definitely see a person that doesn't have a lot of self-control doing it because he has a small cock and women don't give it to him willingly.

funny you brought this up. In my old old hood there was a dude we called "dickface". We called him dickface cuz well, he looked like a dick. All fucked up and shit. Fuckin diesel shooting mothafucker. Anyway, this one day he rapes this little girl. She was bout 15 at the time and he was in his 30s. He comes around looking to get torched on this smack this one nigga had. Word got around bout what happened so the nigga was like "wait right here". Dickface thought he was getting him his shit.. HAHA. Next thing, nigga bring out a fuckin baseball bat along with a few other niggas. WHAM! Dickface get hammered on his knees. I think they broke his legs and shit, really fucked this mothafucka up. So yea, he probly never got pussy, plus he was just plain fucked up.
 
Ithiel, what part of Philly are you from?

Fam, your speech is very liberal with use of hood language, you gotta be aware of what that communicates in such a public context.

Rape is not really as much about having sex as it is about power. Rape is all about power. Molestation tends to be more about fetish than anything else, although it may involve some power issues. However, I would be interested in find out about the size thing relative to those who commit sex crimes. It could definitely serve as a trigger/root for hostile feelings towards sex.

I'm glad you like the cartoon. It's not mine, I just saw it somewhere and grabbed it cuz it cracked me up!
 
It is a stereotype that all gay men like big cocks. I'm not gay, but I remember once on Big Brother Australia there was a huge shower in the house and his cock -inevitably- became a focal point of conversation for the vacuous females and one gay male in the house. The gay guy was scared of it, and said he would'nt want it anywhere near him, he referred to his size as obscene. And because the guys dick became such a hot topic, the owner revealed that it was 8.25 inches erect, and I would estimate 6 girth. And when flaccid it seemed to constantly be about 6" by 5.5"

Kind of interesting this show, now that I think about it in the context of this forum, because the size of the guys dicks always becomes a talking point, except when they were small and brave enough to shower naked on national t.v., and my god have they had some brave motherfuckers, brave or naive.
 
ithiel said:
funny you brought this up. In my old old hood there was a dude we called "dickface". We called him dickface cuz well, he looked like a dick. All fucked up and shit. Fuckin diesel shooting mothafucker. Anyway, this one day he rapes this little girl. She was bout 15 at the time and he was in his 30s. He comes around looking to get torched on this smack this one nigga had. Word got around bout what happened so the nigga was like "wait right here". Dickface thought he was getting him his shit.. HAHA. Next thing, nigga bring out a fuckin baseball bat along with a few other niggas. WHAM! Dickface get hammered on his knees. I think they broke his legs and shit, really fucked this mothafucka up. So yea, he probly never got pussy, plus he was just plain fucked up.


Ithiel,

Please dont post any more ignorant, stupid, rude, arrogant posts like this on any of my threads again. People like you are protected, but if some one of another race did this you'd be fucken contacting the NAACP and they would fucken cry until the person was fucken dead !


Go back to the slums and talk that way and get an education.

I apologize to the rest of you. Non-Racist people.
 
GashKing said:
Ithiel,

Please dont post any more ignorant, stupid, rude, arrogant posts like this on any of my threads again. People like you are protected, but if some one of another race did this you'd be fucken contacting the NAACP and they would fucken cry until the person was fucken dead !


Go back to the slums and talk that way and get an education.

I apologize to the rest of you. Non-Racist people.

lol what the fuck is you talking about? I aint racist for one. and I wouldn't give a fuck if it was another race. Matter fact, fuck the NAACP. Shit I might be under-educated but I damn sure make more money then your ass. :D
 
ithiel said:
lol what the fuck is you talking about? I aint racist for one. and I wouldn't give a fuck if it was another race. Matter fact, fuck the NAACP. Shit I might be under-educated but I damn sure make more money then your ass. :D


Yaaah, welfare doesnt pay that much yo ? You counldnt possibly be educated nor make any money with that shit talk - now tell me, who the hell would hire your dumb ass, besides . . . . . well, no, Wal-Mart wouldnt even hire you - you need a high school diploman to work there for $5.15/hr. ?

You better watch what you say - the NAACP is your only savior . . . . . . LOL. Ohh, yaaahh, you will run to them when your ass is in trouble and say it (the problem) was racist, ie., "the race card" . . . . LOL, whatta joke. I dont know if you know what all that means.

You dont even know what I do for a living, so how do you know that you make more money than me ? LOL ?:(
 
I'm not sold on other guys liking to look at other guys cocks...that is called straight curious of bi-curious...or even gay...not "straight"...


misterious said:
everyone loves big cocks. even straight men like looking at other mens big cocks in the lockerrooms.

no one like small cocks, except maybe virgin females... but even then, it's only for a short time. and even further, no one likes a guy with a small cock. once it's known a guy has a small cock, from there on out people lose respect for him that they once had, and tease him about it at every opportunity they get.
 
jqsderrida said:
Uhh... what the fuck is going on here? There is no room for this degenerative discursivity here.

lemme tell you jq. This dude come at my post because he don't like the way I talk and think it was racist. Then he stereotype me "Yaaah, welfare doesnt pay that much yo ?" Who the racist here? This was never bout skin color.
 
GashKing said:
Yaaah, welfare doesnt pay that much yo ? You counldnt possibly be educated nor make any money with that shit talk - now tell me, who the hell would hire your dumb ass, besides . . . . . well, no, Wal-Mart wouldnt even hire you - you need a high school diploman to work there for $5.15/hr. ?

You better watch what you say - the NAACP is your only savior . . . . . . LOL. Ohh, yaaahh, you will run to them when your ass is in trouble and say it (the problem) was racist, ie., "the race card" . . . . LOL, whatta joke. I dont know if you know what all that means.

You dont even know what I do for a living, so how do you know that you make more money than me ? LOL ?:(

believe me fam I make money. I don't like to boast but comes a time where I might have to. Escalade nigga! with 10,500 worth of extras on it! Jewelry, shit man I spent somewhere round 23,000 in the past 2 years. I came up from SHIT, nothing but SHIT. I got more then I need, fuck I don't need it. A motherfucka like me 7 years ago, wouldn't have time to get involved in Penis Enlargement. I don't rely on SSi or any shit like that. So lets get off on the right foot now b. You know, if you dont like my language and how I am, I can't change that. But respect it. How you come to the conclusion that I'm on welfare? I made some much enemies in my life that I don't want this shit no more. I don't want to start now here. I respect everyone thats on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. Until they give me shit. Shit, ima get the weekend poppin. Yall catch me, I might be at the strip club. :D

Much love to the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] family...
 
I take it as gay men liking big dicks the same as straight men liking big tits. Lots of men love to see big, nicely shaped jugs on a woman, so I'm guessing it's the same with gay men, only they look at the penis, not the breasts.

As far as this little feud, ithiel is a black man I'm pretty sure, and I'm pretty sure he has struggled up more than a lot of us have. His comments weren't racist at all, I used to hear shit like that all day everyday in high school. I had many black friends and that's how they all talked. I knew a really smart black guy who still would act all thugged out. I guess it's just the way you grow up and peer pressure that influences how you dress and talk. I wouldn't go around wearing Phat Farm clothing with a doo-rag on saying "sup shotty?" and stuff like that, because it's totally out of the context of how I was raised and how people know me.

And ithiel, I don't want to know how you make your money, but just stay safe man.
 
Since we talking about black people.... well I must say I dislike the ones that are poor and resort to crime to make money. but it's not really their fault, we're the ones that made them poor in the first place. It's our fault we had them as slaves so next time they kill us or something we only have ourselves to blame.

What I love about black people though is they tell it how it is. No beating around the bush like white dudes.

At the place I work a black guy just started working there. Now keep in mind I live in a town that is like 98% white in the country, so I'm not being racist when I say "a black guy just started working there".


Anyway, he's hilarious. I work at a grocery store and every night we have to take the vegetables and put them in water. So we were doing that, and hes like "oh ya I did dat shit dat looks like grass". I laughed so hard, it was so funny.

and another time me and a black friend were playing a video game, and there was this spaceship that was flying around trying to kill us. The spaceship had a big drill on the bottom of it, I mean a HUGE DRILL and the alien would take that drill and try to grind us up. And my black friend was all like "Dayum nigga dat be one big ass needle!!!" Again, I laughed extremely hard.
 
Discussion of 'black people' nor of traits stereotypically attributed to them is not the reason for the season of this thread. In fact, this is one of the most ignorant discussions of 'race' I have ever heard. I suggest that it stop.
 
jqsderrida said:
Discussion of 'black people' nor of traits stereotypically attributed to them is not the reason for the season of this thread. In fact, this is one of the most ignorant discussions of 'race' I have ever heard. I suggest that it stop.

I agree. Gash stepped out of bounds of reason for a bit and made himself a hypocrit in some sense, while associating generalizations with real world issues that he obvious has strong beliefs about.

I think everyone will let this go as long as Gash does.

As long as it's somehting being discussed and learned from though....
I have friends who are ABUNDANTLY wealthy, from legit and widely acceptable means, and they type, talk and dress far below many people's standards. They happen to be caucasion, but could easily have different color skin ... as are some of the least wealthy people I know who are still millionaires. I also have friends of various races that make money illegally ... and likely immorally in many people's minds ... and they talk like some of the biggest brainiacs every known. It's results above all else.

Glancing at this thread, I saw two comments that initially jumped out at me:
1. Gash implying ithiel is on welfare based on his posts and skin color. 2. 10inch implying that ithiel has had it harder than many people because he is black or that blacks automatically have it harder than others.

Gash was intentionally offensive and stems from obvious bias that may lurk as a type of hatred deep down, combined with a bit of admirable realism ... albeit that doesn't warrant the totality ... or smallest amount ... of scathing diatribe he happened to start spewing ... and it has no place whatsoever in this thread ... on OUR forum. Gash, man, you seem cool .... but please overlook some of these things and respect people regardless of their dialect. It's the heart, mind and soul that is the true meaning behind the person. I've seen nothing but good from ithiel on this forum, despite his edgy presentation of his e-persona.

10inch unintentionally insulted those of the millions of us who are not black, nor of any other so called "minority" race, but have struggled immensely. I imagine some lack of experience has somehting to do with it, and it wasn't intentional ... but I'll kindly ask him to reach for a new paradigm of purview from that train of thought.

Anytime somebody wants to drop all of this, especially Gash, I'm sure this will all be over and everyone will get along again. Otherwise .... I'm glad to see that all the posting in this thread isn't about what size cock gay guys like ... however I imagine they vary like women do. Afterall, we are all human and our lives are much more relative than we condition ourselves to believe and work to try to dismiss by distancing ourselves with money, religion, race and many things that are superficial and trivial in the big scope.
 
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Chance1826 said:
I'm not sold on other guys liking to look at other guys cocks...that is called straight curious of bi-curious...or even gay...not "straight"...

I hate all the guys in the locker room who try to show their dick to everyone. I'll wear a towel even if I make it to 9+ inches. But, I do like looking at dick pics on this forum for motivation. When thought about fairly and without societal influence, it is reasonable and generally courteous and respectful to admire and compliment other men on their bodies ... including their dicks ... and one can do it with nothing but straight thoughts in hopes to be friendly, positive, motivated and respectully acknowledge that the guy has characteristics they would love to - and aspire to - have of their own.
 
jqsderrida said:
Discussion of 'black people' nor of traits stereotypically attributed to them is not the reason for the season of this thread. In fact, this is one of the most ignorant discussions of 'race' I have ever heard. I suggest that it stop.

mega ditto.


keep pushing
 
PenilePersist said:
10inch implying that ithiel has had it harder than many people because he is black or that blacks automatically have it harder than others.



Blacks normally do have it harder though, look at the mauri's in new zeland, they have it harder.. look at the aboriginals in australia.. they have it harder. Btw this isn't a racist post from me im telling it like it is
 
Making money does not take a college degree nor could a college degree make you enough money to even support yourself. I learned that the hard way. I came out of college with an Economics and Math degree from NYU hoping to land a six figure income BUT the jobs out there only pay $40K to start and caps off at $90K. And that's not all, if it is a bad economy like the recession we had in the 90s, you won't even find the job you qualify for!!!
I had a friend girl from Brooklyn Tech who is a musician and is making millions over my untalented college educated broke ass (who found a job but it is in telecommunications making a measly $75K a year in New York City and is hardly able to keep up with payments on a $500K mortgage and facing foreclosure. I even tried budgeting but the mortgage in NYC is still too high). That friend is an African American girl who is a recording artist making millions off her albums.
I have a lot more respect for guys like Ithiel that come from the hood that have talent and smarts on how they invest their earnings than a broke college educated struggling person who brags about his many degrees from Harvard. Most Chairmen or CEOS never finished college like Bill Gates for instance.

Back to the topic, I would never go in front of a bunch of homosexuals in a locker room without a towel. I would however go in front of the ladies naked. I myself have a 7 1/4" long cock and am open to see which girl likes that size. I am proud of my size because women don't laugh at it for being too short nor do they run from it for being too big. I like where I stand on the ratio of women's preferences toward size (which 7-8 inches is favored by 60 percent of all women whereas maybe 35 percent are size queens and 5% like them small). The same may go towards homsexual men because a big cock may be too painful for them to take while a mid sized one may be a good fit.
Remember, there aren't many women with more than 8"+ deep vaginas (or gay men with 8" + deep rectums) that could take a large cock so the percentile is smaller than for mid sized 6-8".
 
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darkseid1998 said:
Making money does not take a college degree nor could a college degree make you enough money to even support yourself. I learned that the hard way. I came out of college with an Economics and Math degree from NYU hoping to land a six figure income BUT the jobs out there only pay $40K to start and caps off at $90K. And that's not all, if it is a bad economy like the recession we had in the 90s, you won't even find the job you qualify for!!!
I had a friend girl from Brooklyn Tech who is a musician and is making millions over my untalented college educated broke ass (who found a job but it is in telecommunications making a measly $75K a year in New York City and is hardly able to keep up with payments on a $500K mortgage and facing foreclosure. I even tried budgeting but the mortgage in NYC is still too high). That friend is an African American girl who is a recording artist making millions off her albums.
I have a lot more respect for guys like Ithiel that come from the hood that have talent and smarts on how they invest their earnings than a broke college educated struggling person who brags about his many degrees from Harvard. Most Chairmen or CEOS never finished college like Bill Gates for instance.

Back to the topic, I would never go in front of a bunch of homosexuals in a locker room without a towel. I would however go in front of the ladies naked. I myself have a 7 1/4" long cock and am open to see which girl likes that size. I am proud of my size because women don't laugh at it for being too short nor do they run from it for being too big. I like where I stand on the ratio of women's preferences toward size (which 7-8 inches is favored by 60 percent of all women whereas maybe 35 percent are size queens and 5% like them small). The same may go towards homsexual men because a big cock may be too painful for them to take while a mid sized one may be a good fit.
Remember, there aren't many women with more than 8"+ deep vaginas (or gay men with 8" + deep rectums) that could take a large cock so the percentile is smaller than for mid sized 6-8".

Actually a rectum can easily take huge lengths with proper caution. The anus doesn't have a cervix. It's the large intestine, after all.
 
Hey GK, great thread man... :clank:

Like every other group of people, Gay men are individuals and each have their own taste as far as penis size is concerned. To think otherwise and just group them all in one big ball would be stereotypically cliche, like saying every white person can't dance, every black person can dance, every mexican is lazy, every jewish person is rich, and lastly, every gay man wants a big cock on his man. It is true the stereotype of gay men is that they all want a big cock, but this is not true, just as it is not true all gay men are effeminate and really want to be women (no thanks to the Queer Eye guys for perpetrating this myth), or that they can't be friends with straight guys because they will always try to get the straight guy into bed, or that all they care about is clothes and superficial things. I'm one of those gay guys whom you would never know by looking or talking to me. I don't give a crap about nice clothes, I'm about as feminine as a marine in combat mode, and I look like a lumber jack who might try to steal a girl and tie her up in his mountain cabin -in other words, a very butch and masculine southern guy who would beat the hell out of someone who called him a fag. I'm proud of what I am, and I know myself and am comfortable in my masculinity, so that any macho bullshit about being gay doesn't affect me, as I'm above that retarded way of thinking.

Although I know I am not the only gay member of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words], I can only speak for myself and tell you that while I do notice a big penis before I notice a small one, it is only because the big penis is BIG, and noticing it first is equivalent to noticing the big Lincoln Navigator first in a parking lot full of Toyota Corolla's. Sexually however, as I am versatile, I prefer men 6 inches or smaller in length, and 5 inches or smaller in width, because I am very tight anally and anything bigger than that just hurts incredibaly bad. I was once with a guy who would be considered "small" by many men here ( although he was average according to the last stats I saw claiming the average penis size of men is between 4-5 inches in length ) and he was probably around 4-5 inches in length and probably 4 or smaller in width. It was very pleasurable because his length or width did not hurt me, and I could concentrate on the intense pleasure the friction was causing on my anus and the warm feeling of fullness that I had inside. So believe when I tell you that bigger is definitely not better for alot of men and women into anal sex. The main reason I want to be bigger myself is for my own vanity purposes, not to please anyone else.

There are gay men (and women) who enjoy that kind of pain and think of it as pleasureable, but not me. Anal sex in general usually is uncomfortable in the beggining for most, but after a period of getting used to the feeling of fullness of the penis being inside of you, you learn to relax, breathe properly and deeply, and then get into the feelings of it sliding back and forth inside of you, and learn to enjoy this and find pleasure in it. However that being said, if someone is too large for you, and/or you are very tight anally, the pleasure part may never come and it just becomes a very painful experience, no matter how much deep breathing or relaxation techniques you use. You have to know yourself, and know what you really want, what feels good to you, and what you can endure.

Although it is true the rectum is incredibly durable and can put up with alot of abuse and has plenty of space for a large penis, this does not mean it will feel good to you or your anal sphincter muscle, nor does it mean you cannot hurt your rectum, so you have to use good judgement and be careful. That being said, the anal opening is rich in nerves, and all of these nerves can give you hours of pleasure if you or your partner stimulate them properly, with the right touch from a penis, hand or tongue, or the right device such as a vibrator. Alot of straight and gay men, and women also for that matter, don't realize how incredible it can feel to have your anus stimulated and played with, so it doesn't cost you anything to experiment and see what feels good to you. Sexually speaking, the more open minded you are about it, the more things you try, the better chance you have to really find something that gives you incredible pleasure, even from an area you never thought of being able to produce such good feelings.
 
Nightbird said:
Hey GK, great thread man... :clank:

Like every other group of people, Gay men are individuals and each have their own taste as far as penis size is concerned. To think otherwise and just group them all in one big ball would be stereotypically cliche, like saying every white person can't dance, every black person can dance, every mexican is lazy, every jewish person is rich, and lastly, every gay man wants a big cock on his man. It is true the stereotype of gay men is that they all want a big cock, but this is not true, just as it is not true all gay men are effeminate and really want to be women (no thanks to the Queer Eye guys for perpetrating this myth), or that they can't be friends with straight guys because they will always try to get the straight guy into bed, or that all they care about is clothes and superficial things. I'm one of those gay guys whom you would never know by looking or talking to me. I don't give a crap about nice clothes, I'm about as feminine as a marine in combat mode, and I look like a lumber jack who might try to steal a girl and tie her up in his mountain cabin -in other words, a very butch and masculine southern guy who would beat the hell out of someone who called him a fag. I'm proud of what I am, and I know myself and am comfortable in my masculinity, so that any macho bullshit about being gay doesn't affect me, as I'm above that retarded way of thinking.

Although I know I am not the only gay member of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words], I can only speak for myself and tell you that while I do notice a big penis before I notice a small one, it is only because the big penis is BIG, and noticing it first is equivalent to noticing the big Lincoln Navigator first in a parking lot full of Toyota Corolla's. Sexually however, as I am versatile, I prefer men 6 inches or smaller in length, and 5 inches or smaller in width, because I am very tight anally and anything bigger than that just hurts incredibaly bad. I was once with a guy who would be considered "small" by many men here ( although he was average according to the last stats I saw claiming the average penis size of men is between 4-5 inches in length ) and he was probably around 4-5 inches in length and probably 4 or smaller in width. It was very pleasurable because his length or width did not hurt me, and I could concentrate on the intense pleasure the friction was causing on my anus and the warm feeling of fullness that I had inside. So believe when I tell you that bigger is definitely not better for alot of men and women into anal sex. The main reason I want to be bigger myself is for my own vanity purposes, not to please anyone else.

There are gay men (and women) who enjoy that kind of pain and think of it as pleasureable, but not me. Anal sex in general usually is uncomfortable in the beggining for most, but after a period of getting used to the feeling of fullness of the penis being inside of you, you learn to relax, breathe properly and deeply, and then get into the feelings of it sliding back and forth inside of you, and learn to enjoy this and find pleasure in it. However that being said, if someone is too large for you, and/or you are very tight anally, the pleasure part may never come and it just becomes a very painful experience, no matter how much deep breathing or relaxation techniques you use. You have to know yourself, and know what you really want, what feels good to you, and what you can endure.

Although it is true the rectum is incredibly durable and can put up with alot of abuse and has plenty of space for a large penis, this does not mean it will feel good to you or your anal sphincter muscle, nor does it mean you cannot hurt your rectum, so you have to use good judgement and be careful. That being said, the anal opening is rich in nerves, and all of these nerves can give you hours of pleasure if you or your partner stimulate them properly, with the right touch from a penis, hand or tongue, or the right device such as a vibrator. Alot of straight and gay men, and women also for that matter, don't realize how incredible it can feel to have your anus stimulated and played with, so it doesn't cost you anything to experiment and see what feels good to you. Sexually speaking, the more open minded you are about it, the more things you try, the better chance you have to really find something that gives you incredible pleasure, even from an area you never thought of being able to produce such good feelings.

That was a good post. I always had this question though, when you look at pics here (in the Penis Enlargement context site, not a sexual context site) do you get any turned on by them or do you look at them "scientifically."
 
Hey 10inchadvantage,

Thanks for the comments. Being a typically horny and red blooded american male (I find alot of us who are into Penis Enlargement'ing tend to be higher on the horny scale than the average joe), I can honestly tell you that the pics affect me both ways, although I have seen so many cock pics now from Penis Enlargement'ing threads that most don't do a thing for me. Some don't turn me on because I don't consider the penis attractive (we all have our own personal tastes as to what a good cock looks like besides length and width), and others make me grab my skin lotion and my cum towel...LOL rofl It's just human nature to react that way to the naked body of course (or as a straight friend of mine put it, if a gay guy propositions him, he takes it as a compliment cause gay guys have great taste in men...:s ), and even the best and most jaded male Gynecologists will still get turned on by a female patient if she happens to be his type or what he likes to see sexually -although good luck on finding one that will admit this, but a friend of mine who is one does. No big surprise, as you can't just turn the ole horny hormones off.
 
By the way 10inchadvantage, I'd kill to be your size bud, and congrats on your program. Of course I think your were above average to begin with, so way to go on getting HUGE. :clap:
 
Nightbird said:
By the way 10inchadvantage, I'd kill to be your size bud, and congrats on your program. Of course I think your were above average to begin with, so way to go on getting HUGE. :clap:

After you hit a certain size you tend to get less hung up about penises in general. For everyone it is different, but 8x6 did it for me (when I was still in high school). What size are you at?

Actually, I was perfectly average sized when I started. A 6x5 penis has the same volume as a 7x4.75 penis. My girth was "lacking" a little but my length was above average. I guess that's good because length isn't too easy for me to get.

It's nice to have a homosexual guy who will hopefully be an active poster. I think we need more people that have something other than a heterosexual male view here. It seems that a lot of younger straight men don't realize that some gay guys are just homosexual, not "gay." What I mean by that is just because someone is attracted to men, does not mean he is all nelly and stuff, which is what a lot of young people think to be the identifier of a real gay man. Do you sometimes find it hard shooting the shit with guys over a beer, talking about hot women and stuff? I'd imagine it would be pretty hard for me to come out if I was gay. Everyone would be shocked, but it's a shame that people aren't more accepting of it. The only openly gay guys I have ever met were at least a little nelly, but I'm sure there are lots more guys I have known that were gay when they acted straight. All I have to say is some kids in the football locker room and around the school (some of the biggest studs) did some "odd" things with other guys in private, and when done in public would be just "acting" all the time. Just funny how guys can be all "macho" and "so straight" yet do such "gay" things and laugh. I'm sure you've seen this happen and gotten frustrated with the guys who act like they're so studly and straight yet you know they are somewhat attracted to guys. Just some interesting observations I've had.
 
Hey 10inchadvantage,

You made some really good observations, and I appreciate your frankness and welcoming attitude. I totally agree that once you hit a good penis size that is right for you, you will naturally not be so concerned about it anymore and focus less on it. 8x6 is a dream size for most men, and I myself would probably give up on making it any larger if I was at 8x6. Currently my bone pressed measurements are 5x5, but because I have a good sized fat pad above my cock it actually is 4x5. I probaby wouldn't be so concerned about it if it looked 4 inches when flaccid, but it doesn't, and that's what I really hate about my size. My partner is perfectly happy with it's size, as he says it's just the right "mouthfull" without him gagging on it, but personally I want it bigger for myself, as I dream of it looking like yours when flaccid, so that is bounces up and down when I walk around naked and fills out my swimming briefs nicely when at the beach. I'm only doing hand stretches right now, which are getting me nowhere, so I am currently looking for a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words][/words] that doesn't cost and arm and a leg to use. I bought a JELQ apparatus from the original JELQ site, but that was a waste of money as it only started to make me thicker in width very quickly, and what I want is length not width. I know theres alot of guys who have [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] here they don't use and are looking for width, so maybe I'll post a thread asking if they want to trade, what'ya think? Do we have a "Sale/Trade" section at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]? If not, it would be a great idea to post one.

As for the being gay thing, it's actually really easy for me to hang with straight guys because all my friends are straight, with the exception of my partner of course. I'm what they call a "straight gay guy", meaning I don't usually enjoy the stereotypical things alot of gay men do -bars, clubs, pride events, gay parties, etc. I've had alot of gay men actually question me as to whether I am really gay, and then doubt me, simply because I didn't fit their idea of what a gay man is, ie; nelly, fem, clean cut with sharp looking clothes (I'm usually scruffy looking in shorts and t-shirts), etc. I know I'm gay, but that's just one small part of me, it does not define my whole existence, as some gay men allow it to do. Plus, I started life liking women, then moved on to being Bi, then settled on Gay, so talking to men about beautiful women just comes naturally to me, and a gorgeous woman can still catch me eye in a big way -I just don't want to have sex with them anymore. I think it all boils down to respect ya know? I know from firsthand knowledge that their are alot of gay men who are just as bad as straight men when it comes to expecting others to believe and think as they do. But I'm one of those people who embraces diversity, so I can relate to alot of people, no matter what their race, age or culture...it's all good to me. And your right about alot of those "macho & straight" guys doing gay things and laughing it off. Alot of "pre-gay" activity included doing those types of "gay pranks" with your bud, because it gives you a way of testing the waters without committing, and then being able to laugh it off. You'd be surprised what those guys end up doing behind closed doors, but as long as they play safe, it's all good...we all have to find our own way the best we can in this messed up world.
 
Nightbird, thanks man.

The guys here got me wrong. What I am upset and pissed at is the word "NIGGER", "NIGGA" - you get the point.

Look what the fuck just happened to a "GREAT" radio host, Imus, for joking around, and you guys support this type of behavior and are just as bad as Ithiel is! We are trying to get along with other races and they wont try to get along with us - but people like many of you guys that responded, baby guys like Ithiel and this doesnt send a good message nor teach anything.

Jesus Christ he Imus, was almost fucken killed for joking around. But the big fucken wigs at CBS, on the top had to "keep the peace" for the $upport ($financiall$) of some people. In reality, if money, finances werent involved, CBS would have told them to "go pound sand" ! He (Imus) made fun of all races, blacks, mexicans, Irish, Germans, Jews etc . . . . . , but when he referred to the blacks - Jesus Christ - the fucken world came to a halt - I think that this causes more heart ache and more discriminatory actions of some? I understand about "DickHead" also. But this thread is about the word "Nigger, Nigga" and the way, context, it is used. I dont fall for much, especially "bull-shit" ! So we all know how to spell and use English, so dont give me that gang wannabe talk! How do we know that Ithiel is even poor, comes from a poor family, is black, owns a Caddy, or just a "wannabe" ?

WHY ?

For reasons of getting banned, I will not continue, you all know I am not a quitter, nor give up, but like I said, I dont want to get banned, I could go on and on and on hammering Ithiel. This was my thread and Nighbird, my words are not geared toward you. I also thank all the guys that emailed me for support because you didnt want to get involved with issues like this - thanks again guys. I came from a family of 9 (8 boys, 1 girl) and we were low income, but I made it in live (College-Masters Degree, US Marines and now a Professional in my Occupation), so dont give me that crap anyone has it harder than others - espcecially "race"! The poorer you are, the more money and grants you get from the Government for anything and every thing.

Lets get back to my original thread now. I'm done with this issue.
 
-But this thread is about the word "Nigger, Nigga" and the way, context, it is used.-

Thats just the way me, and a lot of people talk.

-I understand about "DickHead" also.-

??. Dickhead was a basehead junkie. Fucked himself up to look like a dickhead.

-How do we know that Ithiel is even poor, comes from a poor family, is black, owns a Caddy, or just a "wannabe" ?-

Think what ya like. I'm not on the forums to look a certain way.

-I could go on and on and on hammering Ithiel.-

Please do. Im sure you never would in person.

-The poorer you are, the more money and grants you get from the Government for anything and every thing.-

yea right. How come I never qualified for numerous "so called" government grants.
 
I forgot to add... you be just adding more flame to the fire man. "So we all know how to spell and use English, so dont give me that gang wannabe talk!" -

So what, I gotta do everything the proper way? Man I'm above the norm, aint got to properly use anything. I don't tell jqsderrida to talk like me, even tho I can't understand half of his upscale language (not saying it a bad thing). Fuck that man, better yet, NIGGA FUCK THAT.
 
Gash, you need to understand a couple of things. Without getting into the philosophy of how language acquires meaning, it should be self-evident, at least to someone who holds a master's degree from an American higher education institution, that language acquires meaning from context. Ithiel has not been linguistically inflammatory or pejorative in any thread that comes to mind. However, you state that you take an *absolute* objection to the utilization of the term 'nigger'. However, I dont see you decrying Mark Twain for his excessive use of the term. What about the use of the word nigger in Edgar Allen Poe or Flannery O' Conner? You see, the use of this language for these authors, as well as for Ithiel, is benign insofar as there is no maliciousness behind it. Regarding the Imus anecdote which you raise, I believe he said 'nappy-ass ho' when referring to a certain, now infamous, female basketball player. Concerning your remark about the proper utilization of English, there were 14 errors in both spelling and grammer in your post, and, to use the words of that Christ figure whose name you so often invoke, 'why do you point out the wood-speck in your neighbor's eye when there is a log in your own'?

You need to develop a respect for the relative autonomy of cultures (and their *dialects*) different your own. Were all here to discuss and to develop Penis Enlargement. Ithiel doesnt have to speak the Queen's English, and neither do you or I, but, there was absolutely no reason to react in the manner in which you did to Ithiel's previous posts. The only thing I see in all of this is a conservative, reactionary man speaking out against multiculturalism.

I like you Gash, but damn, my friend, why did you bring all this hell?
 
Nightbird said:
Hey 10inchadvantage,

You made some really good observations, and I appreciate your frankness and welcoming attitude. I totally agree that once you hit a good penis size that is right for you, you will naturally not be so concerned about it anymore and focus less on it. 8x6 is a dream size for most men, and I myself would probably give up on making it any larger if I was at 8x6. Currently my bone pressed measurements are 5x5, but because I have a good sized fat pad above my cock it actually is 4x5. I probaby wouldn't be so concerned about it if it looked 4 inches when flaccid, but it doesn't, and that's what I really hate about my size. My partner is perfectly happy with it's size, as he says it's just the right "mouthfull" without him gagging on it, but personally I want it bigger for myself, as I dream of it looking like yours when flaccid, so that is bounces up and down when I walk around naked and fills out my swimming briefs nicely when at the beach. I'm only doing hand stretches right now, which are getting me nowhere, so I am currently looking for a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]penis [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words][/words] that doesn't cost and arm and a leg to use. I bought a JELQ apparatus from the original JELQ site, but that was a waste of money as it only started to make me thicker in width very quickly, and what I want is length not width. I know theres alot of guys who have [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] here they don't use and are looking for width, so maybe I'll post a thread asking if they want to trade, what'ya think? Do we have a "Sale/Trade" section at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]? If not, it would be a great idea to post one.

As for the being gay thing, it's actually really easy for me to hang with straight guys because all my friends are straight, with the exception of my partner of course. I'm what they call a "straight gay guy", meaning I don't usually enjoy the stereotypical things alot of gay men do -bars, clubs, pride events, gay parties, etc. I've had alot of gay men actually question me as to whether I am really gay, and then doubt me, simply because I didn't fit their idea of what a gay man is, ie; nelly, fem, clean cut with sharp looking clothes (I'm usually scruffy looking in shorts and t-shirts), etc. I know I'm gay, but that's just one small part of me, it does not define my whole existence, as some gay men allow it to do. Plus, I started life liking women, then moved on to being Bi, then settled on Gay, so talking to men about beautiful women just comes naturally to me, and a gorgeous woman can still catch me eye in a big way -I just don't want to have sex with them anymore. I think it all boils down to respect ya know? I know from firsthand knowledge that their are alot of gay men who are just as bad as straight men when it comes to expecting others to believe and think as they do. But I'm one of those people who embraces diversity, so I can relate to alot of people, no matter what their race, age or culture...it's all good to me. And your right about alot of those "macho & straight" guys doing gay things and laughing it off. Alot of "pre-gay" activity included doing those types of "gay pranks" with your bud, because it gives you a way of testing the waters without committing, and then being able to laugh it off. You'd be surprised what those guys end up doing behind closed doors, but as long as they play safe, it's all good...we all have to find our own way the best we can in this messed up world.

My flaccid is generally at 4 1/2" just doing normal things, that pic of my 6 inch "flaccid" was still puffed from my erection. I won't be "satisfied" with my flaccid until it at least reaches 6 inches, which is a good hang for my figure and frame. Big legs really can distort peoples' view of your flaccid, as well as your own. I oftentimes throughout the day fantasize how my dick would look on others when I look at random guys' thighs. As for length, you should get into vacuum hanging. There are a few threads around here about them. They're all overpriced, but they own the market. I'd love to get into the market cheap, as my girlfriend can make molds and such. Maybe she can have some time this summer to do some artistic stuff and make some molds. It'll be a long development, but it is one that I hope will come through.
 
10inchadvantage said:
My flaccid is generally at 4 1/2" just doing normal things, that pic of my 6 inch "flaccid" was still puffed from my erection. I won't be "satisfied" with my flaccid until it at least reaches 6 inches, which is a good hang for my figure and frame. Big legs really can distort peoples' view of your flaccid, as well as your own. I oftentimes throughout the day fantasize how my dick would look on others when I look at random guys' thighs. As for length, you should get into vacuum hanging. There are a few threads around here about them. They're all overpriced, but they own the market. I'd love to get into the market cheap, as my girlfriend can make molds and such. Maybe she can have some time this summer to do some artistic stuff and make some molds. It'll be a long development, but it is one that I hope will come through.

GashKing,

You have always seemed like a nice guy, but I need to second this sentiment. You probably need to take a good, hard look at how you view other cultures before you keep commenting - some of your remarks are flagrantly racist in nature. This is a pretty tolerant forum. People don't get on your case when you ramble on about orgies and your wifes anatomy and such, so I wonder how you feel its okay to chastise somebody for their use of language.

And, to put this in perspective, I've never seen you come down on anybody else's language no matter how profane or badly rendered. The forums are littered with poor english and extreme cursing - never before have you bothered to comment except when black street language is involved. The use of black cultural inflections obviously riles you up, and so I think you should ask yourself why this is. If it had been latino slang or any other ethnic group, do you think you would have needed to deride its usage? Say I were Jewish and had been joking around with somebody and used the slang term 'heeb' in a profane post that was filled with street slang - would you be on my case for that? It could be taken as a slur, after all, and that seems to be what you're complaining about. Also, despite the posts by other members, you remain hugely antogonistic towards ithiel, who was kind enough to more or less brush off your remarks, which I found to be far classier than your latest rebuttal.

And, frankly, fuck Don Imus. If you believe in a free market, then you should support Don Imus being fired, because he couldn't sustain any advertisers after his comments were publicized. Despite the generally unfunny and stupid nature of his remarks, he also chose to pick on people that were enjoying what will be one of the prime achievements of their lives. I don't get on his case about the racist/sexist nature of his comments - he's been at that for years - but the fact is, he got busted because it wasn't funny and it was damn mean-spirited, and he finally got called out for it. Boo-hoo, I think Don Imus will probably be alright in the end. The Rutgers women will always have an asteriks next to their championship now.

And for the record, it wasn't just "the blacks" that came after Imus - it was basically everybody. All this rhetoric about reverse-racism and 'black people are racist and shouldn't use the n-word' and blah blah blah has been spewed by the Limbaughs and Hannitys for a long time, but in the end it really doesn't matter, because they're in no real position to comment. Imus said something that the vast majority of people - black and white - think is stupid and offensive, and he paid a price.

It's funny, because your comments seem to convey (and I apologize if you feel this is putting words in your mouth) a sense of the typical 'whiny crybaby minorities' attitude where by which you feel they receive too mcuh special treatment and complain too much. I happen to disagree with this concept, but more importantly I find it funny that the anti-whining crowd has been so drippy and pissed off about Imus. As I said, he got fired because big money advertisers didn't want anything to do with his show, that's about as fair as it gets. Personally, I'm glad he got canned for saying some truly stupid and cruel shit.
 
10inchadvantage said:
My flaccid is generally at 4 1/2" just doing normal things, that pic of my 6 inch "flaccid" was still puffed from my erection. I won't be "satisfied" with my flaccid until it at least reaches 6 inches, which is a good hang for my figure and frame. Big legs really can distort peoples' view of your flaccid, as well as your own. I oftentimes throughout the day fantasize how my dick would look on others when I look at random guys' thighs. As for length, you should get into vacuum hanging. There are a few threads around here about them. They're all overpriced, but they own the market. I'd love to get into the market cheap, as my girlfriend can make molds and such. Maybe she can have some time this summer to do some artistic stuff and make some molds. It'll be a long development, but it is one that I hope will come through.


Are you talking about the hanging where by the penis head is in a suction type of device and you hang weights from it? Or the [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]JES[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] type where the penis head is in a suction cup instead of being held by a piece of latex hose? I was looking into getting some weights from peweights.com, but the owner of the site emailed me to say the weights alone wouldn't do it, so I am trying to find something that will lengthen my penis without me having to do all these hand stretches, as the hand stretches just don't give me results, and I'm tired of wasting my time doing them. I sit alot at my computer working, so I need something that will work in a sitting position, and that's why I was looking into getting a [words=https://track.moreniche.com/hit.php?w=113512&s=1220]JES[/words] type of [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], but not one with the latex noose to hold your penis head, as I keep hearing bad things about what those nooses do over time to your head.
 
I'm not gay, but i will say my opinion. I think it does, far more then in 'straight' world. I think they are more ego based, and they are far more open with their sexuality, if they aren't they would be discriminated for that in the 'gay world', less sexual partners, less oportunity to meet one and such..so i think it's more of a ego based issue for them like 'i just had sex with that guy...oh my god you mean him..but his only 6.5..' that kind a talk. Pretty cruel, but maybe im wrong.
 
Tmember,
Keep in mind that there really is no "gay world", because as I mentioned before, each gay person is an individual, and has their own set of rules and morality, as there is no standard textbook that we all follow or are taught. While it is true there are gay men who hang around in certain groups or circles, and I know that in movies and tv shows gays tend to be portrayed as you described them, in the real world, just like straights, each is unique. Many are open about sex and what they want, many are prudes and feel it is none of your business what they like sexually, and others like myself are more interested in what is in a persons heart, rather than his briefs. In other words, were just like straights -you can't really pin us down to one set of behaviors or ways of being. But like everything else in American culture, we try to put a label on everything, and like things to be classified or grouped together into neat little categories. If only it were that easy...lol
 
Nightbird said:
Tmember,
Keep in mind that there really is no "gay world", because as I mentioned before, each gay person is an individual, and has their own set of rules and morality, as there is no standard textbook that we all follow or are taught. While it is true there are gay men who hang around in certain groups or circles, and I know that in movies and tv shows gays tend to be portrayed as you described them, in the real world, just like straights, each is unique. Many are open about sex and what they want, many are prudes and feel it is none of your business what they like sexually, and others like myself are more interested in what is in a persons heart, rather than his briefs. In other words, were just like straights -you can't really pin us down to one set of behaviors or ways of being. But like everything else in American culture, we try to put a label on everything, and like things to be classified or grouped together into neat little categories. If only it were that easy...lol
ok, sorry..didn' read ALL the posts..just said my opinion..thx for enlightment..
 
Maybe i was wrong..i don't care..maybe was to much influence of Miss Hollywood and tv shows...but let's look what we have here..at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]..and in Penis Enlargement world..There was a guy here posting asking for some advice, he said he was gay, and claiming that size matters in his percepion of 'guy world', and now NightBird also said he was gay...that's two guys that i know that are guy, being on this site using this stuff to enlarge penise..on this WORLD WIDE MOTHERFUCKING FAMOUS Penis EnlargementNIS ENLARGMENT SITE, and how many straight guys ? Not too mention that this site and many other Penis Enlargement site was started by straight guys/man/ppl. Just couple of facts ...BTW damn you GS for make me thinking about gay ppl and penises :) and passing judgments here rofl , But no issue with you gay ppl, we good, if you here to self improve, you have my respect..
 
Hey guys---

I want to add my 2 cents here before this gets out of hand--


Let's try and keep this thread on topic. I think most of the other MODS would agree with me that we don't like to see any type of racist tone or language anywhere around here. If it was completely up to me, I'd ban all use of the N word in any form. I fyou guys want to continue your discussion on proper or improper use of language, please start a new thread in a different forum and leave this thread to it's topic.

Thanks,
kook
 
Nightbird said:
Tmember,
Keep in mind that there really is no "gay world", because as I mentioned before, each gay person is an individual, and has their own set of rules and morality, as there is no standard textbook that we all follow or are taught. While it is true there are gay men who hang around in certain groups or circles, and I know that in movies and tv shows gays tend to be portrayed as you described them, in the real world, just like straights, each is unique. Many are open about sex and what they want, many are prudes and feel it is none of your business what they like sexually, and others like myself are more interested in what is in a persons heart, rather than his briefs. In other words, were just like straights -you can't really pin us down to one set of behaviors or ways of being. But like everything else in American culture, we try to put a label on everything, and like things to be classified or grouped together into neat little categories. If only it were that easy...lol

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koooky said:
Hey guys---

I want to add my 2 cents here before this gets out of hand--


Let's try and keep this thread on topic. I think most of the other MODS would agree with me that we don't like to see any type of racist tone or language anywhere around here. If it was completely up to me, I'd ban all use of the N word in any form. I fyou guys want to continue your discussion on proper or improper use of language, please start a new thread in a different forum and leave this thread to it's topic.

Thanks,
kook

Koooky,

Thanks man. I agree with you on the "N" word and racist tone. Maybe now I can get my thread/posts back online and back on track. If anyone wants to continue the debate/argument - please feel free to email me at [email protected].

This is a great topic and may teach many things !

Thanks again Kook rofl
 
Nightbird,

Hi man, thanks for your input and coming forward to enlighten all of us with your knowledge about gayness (please forgive me if I am not politically correct with any wording, etc . . . ). If you notice, in my first post of this thread you will see that I did not want to offend nor piss anyone off with the so-called "name-calling" or not correct (Politically correct) descriptions of a "gay", homosexual, male ?

So please correct me if I am wrong, as this is "kinda" new to me and maybe other members as well.

We are getting ready for Party Week for the Club, so I have not committed much time to this thread that I started (with the right intentions, but got side tracked with the "other" issue that was started on "MY THREAD"), that got outta hand, so forgive me guys. I apologize - truly.

Now lets move on . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ..........
 
Tmember said:
Maybe i was wrong..i don't care..maybe was to much influence of Miss Hollywood and tv shows...but let's look what we have here..at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]..and in Penis Enlargement world..There was a guy here posting asking for some advice, he said he was gay, and claiming that size matters in his percepion of 'guy world', and now NightBird also said he was gay...that's two guys that i know that are guy, being on this site using this stuff to enlarge penise..on this WORLD WIDE MOTHERFUCKING FAMOUS Penis EnlargementNIS ENLARGMENT SITE, and how many straight guys ? Not too mention that this site and many other Penis Enlargement site was started by straight guys/man/ppl. Just couple of facts ...BTW damn you GS for make me thinking about gay ppl and penises :) and passing judgments here rofl , But no issue with you gay ppl, we good, if you here to self improve, you have my respect..


Tmember,
No apologies needed for your opinion bud, were all here to speak our minds freely..free speech rocks doesn't it? :) I could just repeat what I have said before about how we are all individuals no matter our race and sexuality, but I will clarify this. Now, I hear what your saying, but keep in mind that we are in a very specific forum, our own little Penis Enlargement world here, so it is very easy to say "what goes on here reflects the real world, therefore, gay men put a priority on penis size because some other guy and Nightbird are here.." But gay people aren't any more special or vain than everybody else, we are all individuals, and it might just be that the other gay guy whom you mentioned had a group of friends for whom penis size was important..but I can assure most gay men aren't this way, which probably explains why so far, you can only name two gay people on this forum which has so many members. Also keep in mind that if your here, whether straight or gay, black or white, once you come in through that internet "door" into this Penis Enlargement world, you are here for a purpose, and you are no longer part of the "general public" on this subject matter. In other words..being here automatically puts you out of the mainstream so to speak, and you can't judge every other guy in your sexual group because of your actions. It's like those asian guys who go into the forums for suped up Hondas..you can't just say "all asian guys are into suped up hondas cause every asian who comes into this forum for suped up Hondas likes and wants a suped up honda.." See what I mean? And this goes for straight guys too. All of my friends where I live now are straight, most of them don't know I'm gay because I don't go broadcasting my private life like "Hi, I'm Nightbird, and I love to suck cock!", just like they don't come up to me and say "Hi, I'm Mike, and I'm love to eat pussy!" ..:s And I can honestly tell you that none of my friends are into Penis Enlargement'ing, as I've brought the subject up with them, and they all just kinda laugh and say "yea right!" and move on. Granted some may be lying, but my gut tells me they are being honest and just don't give a flying squirrel. So, just because the majority of guys in here are straight and into Penis Enlargement'ing doesn't mean the majority of straight men out in the world are into this too. This is just common sense to me, but I know how the media brainwashes the general public into believing the majority of gay men are fem, vain, and only interested in sex and perfect bodies. Then again if you think about it, seeing normal acting gay guys on tv wouldn't be much fun nor cause much laughs, so bring on the stereotypes for ratings. Which brings me back to full circle about how we are all individuals.

Ok, somebody que the Lion King's "Circle of Life" song...lol.
 
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