Anyone here go from SMALL loads to huge loads?

So, for the past week I've noticed that my loads are much thicker and heavier in volume. I'm not absolutely sure which of my supplements in my current stack are responsible. I have though, been religiously doing the testicle massage twice a day too.

I take every morning:

-maximum strength garlic pills (deodorized) 500mg
- Maca with Ginseng
- 2 tbsp of flaxseed oil
- Gingko Bilbao 120
- 2 cups of Matcha
- Zinc 50mg

I ran out of Sunflower Lecithin, I think this made me precum a lot more than increase my loads. However, just last week I started taking the minimal dose of a "Super Prostate Health" proprietary blend (my fellow Canucks will see this at a Rexall drugstore in a blue bottle) and I think it might have something to do with that. It contains:

Saw Palmetto 160mg
Nettle 75mg
Turmeric 25 mg
Rye Flower 25 mg
Pgyeum Africanism 25 mg

Anyone know if any of those ingredients above, would contribute to having a larger load? I have never came in the past like I came this week.
 
Hi guys, I'm back as I've been away from PE for a few months.

>The "commercial" feels so fake, lol

Sure. But has anyone tried these pills? I discovered recently that something I saw as scam for better sleep at night and energy at day was indeed a great product and worked for me.
Give a chance to the product. If I hadn't have the will to try PE and buy some (expensive) stuff, I would never had gotten my gains.
 
GottaGetAGrip;695793 said:
Flaxseed Benefits


Ever since I read that I've been treating flaxseed oil as a supplement. But, I get it, I use it on my salads.
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If you use the whole seed and grind it fresh or the cold-pressed oil - I still do not see it as a supplement.
That's like saying olives and olive oil are supplements.
 
GottaGetAGrip;695733 said:
So, for the past week I've noticed that my loads are much thicker and heavier in volume. I'm not absolutely sure which of my supplements in my current stack are responsible. I have though, been religiously doing the testicle massage twice a day too.

I take every morning:

-maximum strength garlic pills (deodorized) 500mg
- Maca with Ginseng
- 2 tbsp of flaxseed oil
- Gingko Bilbao 120
- 2 cups of Matcha
- Zinc 50mg

I ran out of Sunflower Lecithin, I think this made me precum a lot more than increase my loads. However, just last week I started taking the minimal dose of a "Super Prostate Health" proprietary blend (my fellow Canucks will see this at a Rexall drugstore in a blue bottle) and I think it might have something to do with that. It contains:

Saw Palmetto 160mg
Nettle 75mg
Turmeric 25 mg
Rye Flower 25 mg
Pgyeum Africanism 25 mg

Anyone know if any of those ingredients above, would contribute to having a larger load? I have never came in the past like I came this week.
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Maca, ginseng, flaxseed oil, ginkgo biloba, zinc, saw palmetto do.

The sudden increase in only 1 week is most likely from ginseng, ginkgo biloba, zinc and/or saw palmetto. Don't know which one(s), though zinc or ginseng is more likely. The others are more of a 10-50% boost on top of that, nothing dramatic. However I suggest you drop the ginseng and replace it with 100:1 tongkat ali since ginseng decreases prolactin. The tongkat ali should work similarly without lowering your prolactin. Also decrease zinc to 30 mg in the long term to be safe, which should still be plenty (and more was fine short term). Either you corrected a zinc deficiency or excessively high prolactin with ginseng, however overly corrected prolactin can shrink your loads. And if you leave prolactin high while working around the drawbacks of prolactin with something like tongkat ali, you can have even larger loads I think. All this is on prolactin still my best untested guesses though.

As for my stack I still haven't tested taking it consistently because the arimistane seems to cause sexual anxiety, almost like a need for relief rather than a want. The orgasms are overwhelming, but I become irritable until I get the relief.

Munto;695803 said:
If you use the whole seed and grind it fresh or the cold-pressed oil - I still do not see it as a supplement.
That's like saying olives and olive oil are supplements.
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It is like a supplement for ALAs and some minor hormonal things. Olive oil is not. No different than garlic seasoning vs garlic supplements, etc. Really most supplements that don't come from a whole food or herb tend to be bunk. As are those that are taken like drugs rather than foods. Like when you put 25 mg whole garlic, and not garlic extract, into a pill. 4 drops garlic, waste of time. Or likewise useless is an alpha tocopherol vitamin E pill instead of a whole food mixed tocopherol & mixed tocotrienol source. Etc. There's no difference between real supplements and great food.
 
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I have no idea what the "size" of my load is, since I always cum in a tissue.
But I think at least one girl told me it was a lot.
 
If you want to use tongkat ali, just make sure you get the real stuff. Buying root instead of capsules is the safest way to make sure that your supply is genuine. Otherwise, what you will get is root powder sold as extract, or low potency sold as 1:200, or some rice flower laced with analogues of prescription drugs. If you care for your health, buy whole roots or chipped roots and consume tongkat ali as tea.

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surferjoe;698098 said:
Maca, ginseng, flaxseed oil, ginkgo biloba, zinc, saw palmetto do.

The sudden increase in only 1 week is most likely from ginseng, ginkgo biloba, zinc and/or saw palmetto. Don't know which one(s), though zinc or ginseng is more likely. The others are more of a 10-50% boost on top of that, nothing dramatic. However I suggest you drop the ginseng and replace it with 100:1 tongkat ali since ginseng decreases prolactin. The tongkat ali should work similarly without lowering your prolactin. Also decrease zinc to 30 mg in the long term to be safe, which should still be plenty (and more was fine short term). Either you corrected a zinc deficiency or excessively high prolactin with ginseng, however overly corrected prolactin can shrink your loads. And if you leave prolactin high while working around the drawbacks of prolactin with something like tongkat ali, you can have even larger loads I think. All this is on prolactin still my best untested guesses though.

As for my stack I still haven't tested taking it consistently because the arimistane seems to cause sexual anxiety, almost like a need for relief rather than a want. The orgasms are overwhelming, but I become irritable until I get the relief.


It is like a supplement for ALAs and some minor hormonal things. Olive oil is not. No different than garlic seasoning vs garlic supplements, etc. Really most supplements that don't come from a whole food or herb tend to be bunk. As are those that are taken like drugs rather than foods. Like when you put 25 mg whole garlic, and not garlic extract, into a pill. 4 drops garlic, waste of time. Or likewise useless is an alpha tocopherol vitamin E pill instead of a whole food mixed tocopherol & mixed tocotrienol source. Etc. There's no difference between real supplements and great food.
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Marcky;701117 said:
If you want to use tongkat ali, just make sure you get the real stuff. Buying root instead of capsules is the safest way to make sure that your supply is genuine. Otherwise, what you will get is root powder sold as extract, or low potency sold as 1:200, or some rice flower laced with analogues of prescription drugs. If you care for your health, buy whole roots or chipped roots and consume tongkat ali as tea.

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Thanks for that, I am going to give this a go. I have always had very weak orgasms, they feel great but I dribble more than shoot and the load is always very small.
 
I've found out recently this video of an insane ejaculation, and I would like to know if all the programs, supplements mentioned in this thread could lead to that result. What do you think, guys? It became an obsession now !
 
chips493;707044 said:
I've found out recently this video of an insane ejaculation, and I would like to know if all the programs, supplements mentioned in this thread could lead to that result. What do you think, guys? It became an obsession now !
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We are searching out a replacement for the supplement we used to carry, which kicked ass, I have no clue why they stopped selling it. I will find something soon, I will make a deal and we will have a supply.
 
The video is impressive, but I am quite doubtful about it being genuine article being milked inside to the condom.

There are several good supplements around, like Swedish Flower Pollen (unless you're allergic to bee products), Tongkat Ali has good benefits as well.
Hydration plays a huge part in the volume of your cumshot. Balanced diet with lots of good vegetables and fruits helps. Celery has been said to be good for semen quantity. From fruits pineapple can make your load taste better.

Anyhow, the answer to your question; I am very doubtful any supplements or program (a strict diet for example) would give you the result show in the video.
There were others thinking in the comment section that it could be a small hose under the penis, left hand is using a pump to add the stuff inside.
Things are easy to manipulate. And nowadays you can even buy lubricant that looks like sperm!

Looking forward to what DLD will provide in this search for bigger loads!

PS. Remember to train those PC muscles, do the kegels! In order to shoot a lot you also need some power to push it out. And of course the level of arousal does matter in the quantity of your juice.
 
Bro, I have tried it all and the truth is there is no combo better then Clomid, Lecithin, and water. Take 100mcg of Clomid for a week straight and keep drinking water. Truthfully the Clomid by itself is insane, but if you put it with Lecithin I swear I was cumming more. I can literally feel a thick glob cumming sometimes after I already shot like 3 ropes. My orgasms last way longer also. When I don't have enough water it's much thicker and a little more intense, but its still a lot. Clomid is the truth though, but you have to drink plenty of water. Stay hydrated and the day you are going to cum you need to be excited and hard for like almost an hour ready to explode. When I released it was amazing. I've been hooked to those supplements ever since.
 
I was meaning to reply earlier.

Clomid sounds interesting, but looks like it is a medication you'd need a doctor's referral. Of course that can be bypassed in many ways.
Overall, a bit of a "overkill" maybe, Clomid seems like a medication for couples looking to get a baby. A good look out anyway, I might try it one day.

Lecithin I do have and I suggest getting the Sunflower variety instead of soy based products. (From what I recall, soy produces estrogen as in fine for some females, but definitely not great for many of us men.)

And naturally water is very essential.

Just "wishing" I could stick to what I preach! :-D For me, taking the Lecithin is the difficult part, hydration is so-so. From my own experience the Swedish Bee Pollen extract has helped.
Many of the main points have been discussed;

1. Hydration. Water is the best, natural sugarless beverages after that. Caffeine and alcohol dehydrate = remember to balance.

2. Good diet. Lots of vegetables and fruits help, especially if your partner likes to swallow. On a "happy day", it's best to avoid very spicy ingredients.

3. Supplements. The "over the top" feeling. Lecithin, bee pollen, zinc supplements (best to have copper in the zinc supplement), male fenu greek (there's a difference), dong quai (called female ginseng, but has been in several semen enhancing products). Maca is a nice product, but needs to be cycled, like many products anyhow.
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/masturbation-and-ejaculation-forum/84342-anyone-here-go-from-small-loads-to-huge-loads-3.html#post694571
surferjoe wrote a good post; just that Sunflower lecithin would be my choice instead of soy.

My best ejaculation memory so far is cumming after a nice tit job, I recall seven ropes. At that time I was on Swedish Flower Pollen and maybe two days abstinence.
"I gave her a pearl necklace!" :cool:
 
Update: I think red clover may actually be good for the prostate and that could be why. This also means that the high dose used may actually be useful. You want an extract with isoflavones. A year long study showed 60 mg was helpful to the prostate without harming male sexual characteristics.

So in the program I listed the useful items were probably lecithin, saw palmetto and red clover. The rest probably were not useful. That person responded only after adding saw palmetto and probably simply corrected high DHT. So I'm back to the drawing board on giving an ordinary person giant loads. That person may have had the potential already and like many other lucky people just had to fix a problem. BUT after this and much other research I do have what I believe is a complete list of which items are generally useful for increasing loads. Yet while cutting through the excess. So that's pretty cool:

Hormonal
Luteinizing Hormone
Testosterone
Reduced DHT, improving your prostate in general

Components
Water
Lecithin

Nutritive
Too many to list, but zinc is a major one.

All those big giant load stacks you see basically break down to the 5 simple items above (plus basic nutritional needs). So first eat lots of grains and veggies, and take zinc to be safe. Especially if you have unusually small loads or some other related health problem.

Luteinizing Hormone: The simplest (but dangerous) way is HCG. Clomid, etc., etc. also increase it. Fenugreek, maca, etc. also increase it a bit, and more safely though perhaps not as strong. And these are more indirect; they may actually increase response to LH instead of increasing LH.
Testosterone: Increasing LH ups this too. In fact increasing T directly decreases LH and usually shrinks loads. But if you have problems with low T this one is worth noting. Correcting a zinc or other deficiency is often related too.

Celery, horny goat weed, ginseng, etc.,etc., and all the million other libido herbs are likewise related to T or LH. Zinc megadoses act weakly like T but probably aren't worth the trouble compared to better ways of boosting T. Just get enough zinc for your needs.

Reducing DHT: Taking the drug for this seems to overdo it and/or have other negative sexual sides. In fact it seems to actually be the conversion of T to DHT and filling the appropriate T receptor that seems to be important. If the substance simply stops the conversion without filling the receptor it may decrease loads. So saw palmetto and pygeum extracts seem to be best for this in practice, rather than the strong drugs (before even considering the bad side effects). Other prostate items like pumpkin seeds, flower pollen, etc. help a little.

Water: Spread it out throughout the day for best absorption. Get at least a little sodium each day; even though too much is bad a little is as necessary for life as water is.

Lecithin: 1200-10,000 mg a day is often used. The program I mentioned used 7,200 mg. 3,600-7,200 mg is probably best, and the upper end doesn't hurt. But even 1,200 mg can make a big difference in those who need it.

Nutritive: I wouldn't bother with aminos (including L-arginine) because you can easily get enough from diet. And taking a bunch at once hurts your stomach and only helps a little more compared to getting the minimum. Try pumpkin seeds instead for good aminos. Avoid too much dairy since it has a bad amino acid profile. Other than that you should get plenty from food. Even with dairy as long as you get enough of other foods. In general lots of whole grains and veggies are healthiest. This one is mainly for health/sexual problems though and usually the person just needs zinc. Others without sexual problems don't benefit as much.

So best load stack I can figure out so far:
600-2,000 mg 50% saponin fenugreek or shatavari extract
320 mg saw palmetto extract
250+ mg beta sitosterol and/or pygeum extract
60 mg red clover isoflavones
Water, 8+ cups well spread out
7,200 mg lecithin, spread out
30 mg zinc.

Adding up to 500 iu HCG to all of the above might help more. But it's dangerous and illegal. Too much can even cause permanent damage and then your balls stop working altogether. Plus the above already does quite a bit safely and I'm not sure HCG would necessarily add a lot on top of that. It may simply bring you the rest of the way to your limit (which might not be that much further) at the cost of all that huge risk.

SPE, beta sitosterol and RC might be rejiggered to boost the prostate in other ways. But I Picked this combo because they seem to work in 2-3 different ways so hopefully they combine well. Or at least hit all possible options even if you personally don't need all 3. Just SPE or beta sitosterol may do it, for example.

Again still haven't found the way to go from normal to giant loads, except for a few lucky people who respond well. But these do seem to help me somewhat so far, and some people take a month to get full results. So I'll keep going for a month and see if it does even more for me.
 
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I found success with zinc and lecithin. Agreed about the water and celery (though that may just be mental)

Took 3 weeks to see marked results. And no one mentions the precum running like a faucet
 
bty84;737920 said:
I found success with zinc and lecithin. Agreed about the water and celery (though that may just be mental)

Took 3 weeks to see marked results. And no one mentions the precum running like a faucet
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I have not had an orgasm for a very long time, I wonder if it would be huge at this point!
 
bty84;737983 said:
on purpose?

my balls would explode!!!!
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Yes, on purpose. I am off the adult entertainment and masturbation thing. Still mess up once and again but doing my best to remain on task.
 
doublelongdaddy;738140 said:
Yes, on purpose. I am off the adult entertainment and masturbation thing. Still mess up once and again but doing my best to remain on task.
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that's a whole nother level of commitment/discipline!

well done sir
 
bty84;738171 said:
that's a whole nother level of commitment/discipline!

well done sir
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Thanks for the support, I always need as much as possible. Yes, the discipline is key and commitment needs to be in reason (for me it is). I hope to eventually be done with it completely but the mind takes time to renew.
 
Update: Program has helped though loads still aren't huge.

While checking some studies that actually measured increase most substances don't give a big boost for the average person, in spite of the stories of some people who do get a huge boost. Typically in a study such and such gives 0.5 mL, if anything. Clomid for example is famous but does nothing for the average person, not even 0.5 mL. What work for the average person are proviron (drug), HCG (drug), arimidex (drug), maca and a little vitamin C (but normal diet is fine and megadosing won't help more). Only about 0.5 mL boost from each (and not necessarily more in combination). Certainly not worth the dangers of drugs. Abstinence I forget but I think it's about 1-1.5 mL the first couple days and 0.2 mL per following day. But it continues for a long time at that low rate; it doesn't really level off. So... holding it in for weeks is a viable though maybe not practical option. Increasing prolactin showed a decrease in almost every study I found, even when in combination with boosting other hormones. But decreasing prolactin too low also decreased volume. One study showed a temporary increase in sperm but not volume before the decrease. At best tweaking it up or down slightly (not too much) to the proper level might be a small help.

I'm going to add some maca to what I posted before in hopes of a little more. Plus it feels way better in spite of the small volume increase, so that's a big plus. These things are great for libido at least. Even the red clover has been helpful with none of the scary things you might fear. Which is also what I found in studies: a small increase to male fertility not decrease. And a huge boost to libido.
 
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surferjoe;753817 said:
Update: Program has helped though loads still aren't huge.

While checking some studies that actually measured increase most substances don't give a big boost for the average person, in spite of the stories of some people who do get a huge boost. Typically in a study such and such gives 0.5 mL, if anything. Clomid for example is famous but does nothing for the average person, not even 0.5 mL. What work for the average person are proviron (drug), HCG (drug), arimidex (drug), maca and a little vitamin C (but normal diet is fine and megadosing won't help more). Only about 0.5 mL boost from each (and not necessarily more in combination). Certainly not worth the dangers of drugs. Abstinence I forget but I think it's about 1-1.5 mL the first couple days and 0.2 mL per following day. But it continues for a long time at that low rate; it doesn't really level off. So... holding it in for weeks is a viable though maybe not practical option. Increasing prolactin showed a decrease in almost every study I found, even when in combination with boosting other hormones. But decreasing prolactin too low also decreased volume. One study showed a temporary increase in sperm but not volume before the decrease. At best tweaking it up or down slightly (not too much) to the proper level might be a small help.

I'm going to add some maca to what I posted before in hopes of a little more. Plus it feels way better in spite of the small volume increase, so that's a big plus. These things are great for libido at least. Even the red clover has been helpful with none of the scary things you might fear. Which is also what I found in studies: a small increase to male fertility not decrease. And a huge boost to libido.
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Nice post. How long have you been doing PE and what kind of progress have you made? Good to have you here!
 
Got to toot my own horn; I was able to produce big cumshots, very close to Peter North -esque.
The emphasis on was ...

At that time, when I did, I think the main things were proper hydration and bee pollen. That's about it. Bee pollen, yes! Diet wise I've always been a mixed guy, I eat meat and vegetables, trying to maintain somekind of an balance.
If one doesn't have allergies related to bee products, it's a fine idea to give bee pollen a try.
Effects can take a while to come, depending on few aspects. (Prior diet, exercising etc..)
I've seen it available in caps and it's a good idea to take the dose sparingly during the day.
I would say 1 caspsule in the morning, then 1 by midday and one by evening. Dosing can vary due to bodyweight.

It's also available as a powder and that way you can make your own capsules, mix it to yoghurt, juice etc..

I guess I'm repeating myself if one goes through these threads, but I do feel bee pollen was one of the biggest enhancers for me! Along with proper hydration, naturally. ;)
One can build quite the stack of possible enhancers, but I'd just give the pollen a try. From what I recall certain bee pollen capsules had this "loading phase" where you took a bit more of the capsules and after the loading phase was over, just 1-3 capsules daily was a fine dose.
 
Study about bee pollen

I found that one, pretty high on Google results, seemed to be quite decent pack of information.

Of course there was the the thing about possible fungi and parasites etc., but so far I haven't had ill effects regarding taking bee pollen.

In my own mind I see it as being concentrated nutrients which the body can utilize well. I'm not very scientific guy, I play very much with "gut feeling."
There's always the Your Mileage May Vary -factor to many supplements. For me bee pollen and good amount of water seemed to boost my system a lot.

Apart from bee pollen, I'd say Zinc and Lecithin are quite big on the volume. Some have reported about Pygeum, but I think my course with Pygeum wasn't long enough.
For now I'm mainly just sticking with regular food and multivitamin, that's about it.
I do look forward to getting back on a certain stack and to get those bigger ejaculations; my pelvic floor muscles are strong enough at least.
 
So much effort involved! ? can’t I just take a pill? ?
 
Well, bee pollen is available in capsules. ;) I have it in both capsule form and powder form.

Anything worth having isn't often easy. (Well, of course the quote is a bit different, but anyway ...)
If one has a very poor diet, doesn't exercise etc., it is unlikely that just taking bee pollen capsules would turn his pistol to a splatter gun, if the analogy makes any sense.

A big load of ejaculation doesn't always mean a better orgasm, this is from experience. I've shot good loads but if my mind wasn't so much in the game, the feeling of euphoria wasn't really great.
Just wanted to say that. And naturally ejaculation and orgasm are two different things, they're just often in sync.
 
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Me trying to increase the size of my loads LOL
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"Come on, you almost got me!" Great episode. I mimicked the dragon voice at work at times. (I must have been hell on many of my co-workers, due to constant pop culture references. And acting with my voice ... :D )

I think I might have more to say on this subject later during the year. Certain things are in motion!
 
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