I mostly concur with their poll and comments .. and lately consider the perfect PE rod [being objectively/obviously bigger than normal as a desired goal .. but not too big to go all the places you might want it to .. as an additional desired goal] to be 8.3" (210mm) x 5.7" (145mm) .. IMO.

Athletic length for performing odd positions more easily, what most women call "girthy" without being too much so, and a nice balance of length to width so it's not a fragile ratio prone to bending injuries. [When an upper limit is placed upon width, you have to have a concurrent upper limit placed upon length as well or the penis can become overly injurable.] Everyone has an opinion, but I used several metrics, and over a decade, in arriving at that one ... of which I'm considerably larger than both.

There was another external article posted in the last two or three weeks where women's opinions about the perfect size is different depending upon whether or not the penis-object in discussion was a dildo (where they'd prefer it a bit smaller) or a real penis attached to a man (where the scale 'seems' smaller and then they'd preferred them a bit larger). They were unaware of their change in 'perfect size', .. that was the point of the experiment.

The figures above also take that upsize preference into consideration for when the size is being diminished by its attachment to a 200lb etc bulky mammal.

Visualizer says that would be 326cm³ .. whereas 'average' is 193cm³. Nice difference, definitely imposing, but still fits in .. stuff .. :cool:
 
acromegaly;634956 said:
Women love to be destroyed, bigger is better

Really? I guess if I ever meet a girl I will be good at this!
 
acromegaly;634956 said:
Women love to be destroyed, bigger is better

yeah most women got really destroyed and ruined genitalia due to hardcore use of dildos and phallic objects,along whit the sex sessions they have whit really well endowed men...:)
 
comparing ourself with dildos is pointless.

and should be the same as girls comparing their tits with that on a sex doll.

when a woman masturbates it is feminine energy. she caresses herself fingers herself plays with her clitt. hell some of them even turn on candles etc etc.

when a woman is together with a man. she wants maskuline energy. she gets this by:

feeling desireable.
getting compliments.
getting dominated.
getting fucked.

and in this.

a big throbbing cock glaring at her waiting to penetrate her and make her surrender to it's size. is very much a turn on.

and to go to work the next day without a voice telling her friends how much of a man she has found. and how much she feels like a woman. is all part of it.

(a good friend of mine is a woman with a sex shop. so i actually know alot about this)

most dildos and vibraters is designed to hit certain spots or area's. very few are designed to hammer down to the bottom.

ohh and one last thing. even though we have a really hard erection a dildo is still a lot harder than our cocks. so a 6' dildo is harder to take than a 6' cock
 
Most women don't have a clue what they want. And that's not exclusive to dick size.
 
Longth;635028 said:
Most women don't have a clue what they want. And that's not exclusive to dick size.

Maybe it is being on this site for 13 years but women seem to generally hate me. It is like I have this great power they become jealous of and the only way to vent it is to hate me. I wish I could figure out how to get around this but so far no luck.
 
doublelongdaddy;635045 said:
Maybe it is being on this site for 13 years but women seem to generally hate me. It is like I have this great power they become jealous of and the only way to vent it is to hate me. I wish I could figure out how to get around this but so far no luck.

Yeah we are into PE but Nobility like us need no average girls WE are the PE royalty King DLD, Archduke LIGHTNING, Duke Zam Prince Troyka,Viceroy Short LOL
 
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doublelongdaddy;635045 said:
Maybe it is being on this site for 13 years but women seem to generally hate me. It is like I have this great power they become jealous of and the only way to vent it is to hate me. I wish I could figure out how to get around this but so far no luck.

If I were you I'd be making extra cash doing �naked people movies�. You must have your reasons not to, but myself in the single life at this point... Screw it.
 
If D gets a job in the �naked people movies� Industry that would be the end of the brotherhood..We dont want him to go do we haha
 
Some of the following is unfair, some of it is not ...

comparing ourself with dildos is pointless

Not really. Should we not compare ourselves with rulers too? Women don't f*ck rulers, you know.

So if there is no tie to any objective truth then how could anyone know where they are at, or know where they'd want to go, or how to stop when they got there?

The original article, between the content and the comments, compared both dildos and cocks, and defined some areas of difference in the two. So did my post. Understanding is Knowledge ... it's not 'pointless'.

and should be the same as girls comparing their tits with that on a sex doll.

Again, not really. Every guy in the universe doesn't have a drawer full of sex dolls .. and widespread socially accepted opinions about what the top sex dolls are so all of their friends can go buy them too.

when a woman is together with a man. she wants maskuline energy. she gets this by:

feeling desireable.
getting compliments.
getting dominated.
getting fucked.

and in this.

a big throbbing cock glaring at her waiting to penetrate her and make her surrender to it's size. is very much a turn on.

So you're saying that chicks like Guys and Cock? .. That's some keen insight there. I wonder if anyone else has figured this out before?..

Indeed they -might- like cock so much that they buy hundreds of millions of -copies- of cocks in every possible size and color and material and mechanical accessorization so they can use them at-will without needing to 'surrender' to a maskuline male, nor have to wash/dry/style their hair, or wear makeup .. or pick up his dirty socks, etc.

(a good friend of mine is a woman with a sex shop. so i actually know alot about this)

So your friend keeps her business doors open by selling maskuline throbbing males to her customers...

... or by selling a couple-dozen dildos every single day? ..

most dildos and vibraters is designed to hit certain spots or area's. very few are designed to hammer down to the bottom.

That's because hammering down to the bottom is only a subtextural, rather nebulous, feeling of being stretched .. and has essentially no discrete ability to deliver orgasms. (An enormous amount of the effect isn't even the bottoming out per se but rather the male's mons/hips/balls/base slapping against the chick's thighs/clitoral labia/clitoral glans/butt/and the typically wider penis base causing more stretching of the vaginal opening.)

It's all of the "spots and areas" that the dildos [etc] hit that are actually the more pleasurable. That's why they're made to do that.

ohh and one last thing. even though we have a really hard erection a dildo is still a lot harder than our cocks. so a 6' dildo is harder to take than a 6' cock

Not if it's CyberSkin/Softskin, or Silicone, or phthalate Jelly, or non-phthalate Elastomer, or latex rubber, or TPR .... but otherwise (aside from almost every dildo out there) .. yes.

ohh and one last thing, ever hear of a Rabbit Vibrator? ... penetrates the vagina .. also contacting the Gspot, vibrates the clitoral labia, vibrates the perineum, spins around (for pete's sakes) inside the vaginal introitus, and vibrates the clitoral glans ... a chick can come so much, over and over, and over, that the orgasms crash into each other. I guarantee you that no amount of maleness and no amount of penis can cause such effects ... and that's me saying that ... I can rip a pro bowl linebacker's head off, and according to Mike I'm bigger than Ramone (which is still shocking) .. so i actually know alot about this.

Now, in the middle there I was [no pun intended] being a dick ... but only because no one was arguing against the points you made.

Yes, chicks like dudes. Yes a strong masculine energy will tend to bloom the feminine energy of the female. (They actually LOATHE weak males. And I've always thought that when a chick meets a new dude .. not knowing whether she's going to dominate him or swoon before him is about half of the reason that they're crazy. ;) )

Maleness/Femaleness .... good points ... but unrelated here. You're trying to use those to throw out the baby and the bathwater. Back to the topic and objective measurements ... the main point was Girth, and how the preferences were being stated as sizes below what we'd tend to think of here as a goal. A lot of the chicks were saying their ideal girth was 5.5 and anything over 5.75 was too big. (after more than a dozen years at this, and being well bigger than that, I [essentially] agree).

There's a size of diminishing returns where instead of a chick swooning before one's male energy .. they become more and more likely to say "You want to put -that- where? lol, no!'

And if the size is such that the 'where' equals nowhere .. then you're also at the friend's store too .. getting the titty doll you mentioned..

IMO .. we should consider a serious site discussion on (at least suggesting) a topper on size goals which are more in line with actual female physiology .. instead of the perhaps unrealistic dynamics of dysmorphia and idealized aesthetics that can tend to drive the goals presently.

All of which also trumpets the success of PE and of Mos, which is something I've said for like seven years, .. not so dogmatically, .. most guys (and doctors too for that matter) think there's nothing non-surgical that can be done about penis size, and meanwhile here at MoS we're hitting size goals at-will and occasionally going "hmmm, I think I might have gone too big .."

When someone is starting out, they're in their own head about their smaller starting size and don't realize that one can oversucceed. That, if using real chicks as a benchmark, 'too big' is an achievable actual thing.

Otherwise, it's a free country (and world, metaphorically) .. one can do whatever they decide, .. and there are size queens out there ready and waiting, but to make an Nth argument ... a 9 inch girth is probably too much. Agreeable point? Then one is already, if subconsciously, aware that there is a limit .. and that 9 is above it ... and that somewhere less than that is a more proper, or even 'right' amount.

There are 8 inches around a coke can (8.17 or etc). That's also pretty friggin big, but something one can find readily to get the scope of it. -- 7, less so, but still. -- 6.5, less so, but still ..

If the mean of chicks are saying 5.5 to 5.75, the veterans here should at least probably advise that as information, if not fully an admonition, to think about not radically exceeding it.


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I don't think many would notice a half inch difference in girth visibly. Unless it's side by side. Also, considering that the added volume doesn't seem to actually stretch so much as it increases pressure. There's definitely a safe zone for size where 7 is excessive, 6.5 is pushing it, 6 is safe enough, 5.5 is good, and 5 is normal. Same for length, where 10 is alarming, 9 is pushing it, 8 is safe enough, 7 is good and 6 is normal. Length gets a bit more complicated with bp and nbp factoring in, but generally speaking these are fairly wide spread opinion.

Girth really is something that can be adapted to through foreplay and lubricant. The determining factor is the approach. You don't go in like Rambo and fuck shit up unless you're not planning on a repeat performance. You wade. Length is also dependant on the user. If you just do straight shots down the middle with her spread eagle with a 9 inch dick, you're probably going to do nothing more than hurt the girl and earn the respective reputation.

Getting bigger is all good and fine, but if you're not prepared to learn how to use the new equipment, stick to something more what you're used to. You can't fuck like you have a 6 inch when you're packing an entry ticket to male �naked people movies� work. Just makes you suck in bed at that point.
 
So I came across this which I thought was interesting women voting on what their upper limit was as far as girth goes when it comes to dildos I think this would be more accurate as they know exactly what girth it is instead of guessing, surprisingly 5.5" came up most often as the limit.

Girth: How big is too big? - Created by Bex1331 on Jun 05, 2012: EdenFantasys Forum

Don't listen to what a woman says. 6.5 inches mid shaft girth is the ideal girth to bring any woman to submission. Here on MOS, we will never settle for less. As for me it is 9 x 7 all the way.
 
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