MoreThanLuck

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So the wife and I were talking about the subcatagories of pleasure to define an accurate means by which we can determine the requirements of meeting satisfaction. So when we got down to the nitty gritty, she admitted that bigger dicks are more aesthetically pleasing to her as well as physically more intense and pleasurable. The biggest guy she's ever been with was smaller than I am, but the dildos we use together are 7 inches length insertable, and 6-6.25 inches in girth. She said 6 inches is perfect for her which to me is horrowing but also enlightening. Now I have a good point of reference to get too, but now I'm thinking that she's not satisfied at all by my current size. Honestly, I don't care anymore cause I realized that its not my job to be responsible for her satisfaction. My big worry is that when I do get to 6 inches in girth, she may want more. that's depressing to try and achieve a moving target.
 
I imagine she doesn't have very tight pussy from all the kids. She wouldn't use kegel balls to tighten up her vaj?
 
You can also reference the fact of a tighter pussy feels far more satisfactory. Like templnite suggested, the kegel balls will tighten her up and you'll feel different to her, next time she inquires about her favorite size. If your not happy with your size, it's your own right to do what you want to make yourself happy. If she's not happy about it and starts to make comments at all, the relationship is over. The point of being together is your both happy with each other the way you are. We can make our dicks bigger, they can't shrink their pussies, only strengthen muscles. There's a difference. Strive for the goal you want and if she isn't pleased with it, then you were correct that you'll be chasing an unattainable goal. I'm sorry, but I'll be damned if I'm gonna fist a bitch. You can definitely reach beyond 7 inches in length and 6.25 in girth, the problem is that your using dildos, so she's referencing an inanimate object, not a human being, the person she married. Next time the subject is brought up, bring up about your worries. If she doesn't acknowledge them and come to an understanding, it's time to move on. You chased her and got her, but, a woman who is not satisfied is a woman who will hurt someone. The only one who will get hurt here is you my brother. I don't want that and it shouldn't be that way. The fact that it worried you is enough to have another conversation. Always be forthcoming, if a woman is unable to accept them, she is not for you. Easy peezy lemon squeezy. Fill us in on anything you may have forgotten. I don't wanna come off as a jerk, I just don't believe one side of a relationship should get everything.
 
Remember, KEGELS were invented, in part, for this exact reason. So doing Kegel or assisted Kegels will help her tighten up.
 
templnite;678743 said:
I imagine she doesn't have very tight pussy from all the kids. She wouldn't use kegel balls to tighten up her vaj?

She uses those weighted egg things she has to hold up there all day to tighten up. I just can't tell a difference. It may be due to her not being consistent with it. Who knows. She has had 2 kids, but she's always been pretty loose and she's known it since she was young. So maybe she does require something bigger, but I'm not going to attach myself to that. I attached my self-worth to her before and it ruined me. A moving target though bothers me the most.
 
Six inch girth is enough bro, and if that doesn't work you can always shoot for seven like me "O
Also the balls I meant are two ones sitting on a string, and I think the instructions at you need to be walking around for them to work
 
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MoreThanLuck;678795 said:
She uses those weighted egg things she has to hold up there all day to tighten up. I just can't tell a difference. It may be due to her not being consistent with it. Who knows. She has had 2 kids, but she's always been pretty loose and she's known it since she was young. So maybe she does require something bigger, but I'm not going to attach myself to that. I attached my self-worth to her before and it ruined me. A moving target though bothers me the most.

That's where the problem is. You don't trust her. No offense to your morals brother but you need to really go into this relationship. You two are probably just going through the motions of everyday life with each other. I understand the need to stay together for the kids but is it healthy for you.
Anyways, how is your health?
Really, how is your heart?
 
runningignus;678824 said:
That's where the problem is. You don't trust her. No offense to your morals brother but you need to really go into this relationship. You two are probably just going through the motions of everyday life with each other. I understand the need to stay together for the kids but is it healthy for you.
Anyways, how is your health?
Really, how is your heart?

Leaving isn't an option for me; by my very nature I am not a quiter. I have two young children, and they do really mean the world to me as well. Healthwise I'm a beast. I'm in near perfect condition. More often than not I look like a chiseled Greek statue (small penis included, but I'm looking to change that) 😁.

How is my heart? Well for the last year I've been running off of pain, and hatred. Our relationship isn't all that great cause she lies all the time (even though there are brief periods where she tells the truth like last night). So you're right, I don't trust her. We also have ghosts in our past which also have enhanced the mistrust. Overall if you overlook all that, she is a great mother, she tries to be a good person, but she just can't communicate properly and she has a ginormous vagina. I began this trip because of her, but it has turned into so much more. Now that I have seperated myself from her emotionally, my goals have switched from doing this for her to doing this for myself, and part of the overall aesthetics I want to reach. My only real problem with all this is my reference points. I have 4 goals defined. My first one has been reached (that was to be bigger than the biggest guy she's ever been with), the rest is just iceing on the cake, but now I hear all this crap about needing to achieve this moving goal. Really sucks.
 
Hey Dude!
You're doing your work. I say tell her to work on her I'd like to be nasty cuz I'm pissed at the entitlement manipulation 'cuz she dropped 2 kids but she should/can tighten up and not put all of it on you.
Just sayin'
 
To speak on the "moving target" you have mentioned...you don't know if that will be the case. You don't know she will want bigger girth for sure. Is it possible she may and b/c you got to 6" she thinks why not go bigger, yes it's possible, but it's not guaranteed she will feel that way. Try not to stress yourself out about that when you don't know it's that way for certain. Keep up the hard work in all aspects of your life like you have been and that will always lead you to a better place mentally.
 
MoreThanLuck;678838 said:
Leaving isn't an option for me; by my very nature I am not a quiter. I have two young children, and they do really mean the world to me as well. Healthwise I'm a beast. I'm in near perfect condition. More often than not I look like a chiseled Greek statue (small penis included, but I'm looking to change that) 😁.

How is my heart? Well for the last year I've been running off of pain, and hatred. Our relationship isn't all that great cause she lies all the time (even though there are brief periods where she tells the truth like last night). So you're right, I don't trust her. We also have ghosts in our past which also have enhanced the mistrust. Overall if you overlook all that, she is a great mother, she tries to be a good person, but she just can't communicate properly and she has a 😁😂ginormous vagina😃😉. I began this trip because of her, but it has turned into so much more. Now that I have seperated myself from her emotionally, my goals have switched from doing this for her to doing this for myself, and part of the overall aesthetics I want to reach. My only real problem with all this is my reference points. I have 4 goals defined. My first one has been reached (that was to be bigger than the biggest guy she's ever been with), the rest is just iceing on the cake, but now I hear all this crap about needing to achieve this moving goal. Really sucks.

I Truthfully understand brother. My ex had 2 kids and she was a little loose, then she had my son. She loosened up as well. I've been there and talked with her as well. Some women don't have the will to do the work. Even if it's for the man they love. I just went through the motions for years. There was no love after a while. We had our pasts and I put my entire faith into her, needless to say, she's dead to me now. I take care of my son and see my step daughter as much as I can. Life is about choices, it ain't quitting if it's already over. I'm not a quitter by no means, but a man has to know when a battle isn't worth it. She's not accepting of who you are now and your not happy. Good mother or not, your a part of the family as well brother.
 
my girl has 3 kids and i think see is tight.

Once i was with a girl that had 2 kids and she was very tight.

Then i was with a girl that had no kids and she could fuck mondingo easy, so i have always thought that the kids thing does not matter that much.
 
MoreThanLuck;678838 said:
Leaving isn't an option for me; by my very nature I am not a quiter. I have two young children, and they do really mean the world to me as well. Healthwise I'm a beast. I'm in near perfect condition. More often than not I look like a chiseled Greek statue (small penis included, but I'm looking to change that) 😁.

How is my heart? Well for the last year I've been running off of pain, and hatred. Our relationship isn't all that great cause she lies all the time (even though there are brief periods where she tells the truth like last night). So you're right, I don't trust her. We also have ghosts in our past which also have enhanced the mistrust. Overall if you overlook all that, she is a great mother, she tries to be a good person, but she just can't communicate properly and she has a ginormous vagina. I began this trip because of her, but it has turned into so much more. Now that I have seperated myself from her emotionally, my goals have switched from doing this for her to doing this for myself, and part of the overall aesthetics I want to reach. My only real problem with all this is my reference points. I have 4 goals defined. My first one has been reached (that was to be bigger than the biggest guy she's ever been with), the rest is just iceing on the cake, but now I hear all this crap about needing to achieve this moving goal. Really sucks.

Not being quick to throw in the towel marriage wise is a good thing and I salute for for it. If you haven't read/listened to the Five Love Languages I would suggest it because it could help you with your marriage. If she is one that like the physical it is ok for you to compromise and meet her in the middle

I agree with you, going after a moving target can be hard but it doesn't sound like she is overbearing on her desires. I mean we all have an ideal we desire (maybe for you that she be tighter) but at the same time if we are not tearing the other person down because of our desires then that is fine. I believe there is a way to communicate desires so that the other person doesn't feel belittled which in turn can cause negative results. Most of us here on MOS are here because of some communication that belittled us (be it media or another person) that made us feel like we were less of a man than we should be .... However, it isn't how you start and what bought you here, it is what you make of it. You have to internalize what you want not because of what someone else desires but because it is what you want. Sometimes it is the case that what someone else wants and what we want aligns and it is perfect; however, if you do not feel this way about your size then don't chase after the unknown goal.

Speaking of the goal, it sounds like you are approaching it with fear because you think your lady will want more and more. For some on MOS that wouldn't be a bad thing lol because there are plenty of guys here that want to have beyond huge.

Anyway, communicate with your lady and I hope everything works out for you sexually.
 
templnite;678797 said:
Six inch girth is enough bro, and if that doesn't work you can always shoot for seven like me "O
Also the balls I meant are two ones sitting on a string, and I think the instructions at you need to be walking around for them to work

Yeah whatever she's got is a weighted system. There are different weights so she picks the one she can handle barely handle for the day and inserts it. Its kinda like hanging for females. lol
 
Commodore;678859 said:
my girl has 3 kids and i think see is tight.

Once i was with a girl that had 2 kids and she was very tight.

Then i was with a girl that had no kids and she could fuck mondingo easy, so i have always thought that the kids thing does not matter that much.

The wife has always kinda been a little loose, but never so terribly that I couldn't make it work. After two kids, to me it bounced back for the most part, but to her it didn't. She said that she went to the doctor to talk about it after my little girl was born, but that they suggested kegels and levels hasn't been doing anything for her really. Feels like the last 15 years has been a waste of time, but the next 15 won't be!
 
It's never wasted if your happy. Remember the happy times and don't worry about the bad. Just the way you make it seem like your just not truly happy anymore.
 
MoreThanLuck;678870 said:
Yeah whatever she's got is a weighted system. There are different weights so she picks the one she can handle barely handle for the day and inserts it. Its kinda like hanging for females. lol

Awesome she is closing the gap between girth and childbirth! :) You keep getting thicker and she can continue getting tighter, it is a win win situation!
 
Ouch! So the wife and I have a conversation this weekend about our sex life, and somehow she let it slip that she's never been satisfied sexually in our relationship because of my average junk. So I know her pretty well, so I ask her if she believes an orgasm is the point at which she is satisfied or is it just the act itself. She said that an orgasm is not as important as having that 'full' feeling all the time (because it does get looser during sex and its harder to achieve orgasm), and being able to hit all the spots effortlessly. So really this conversation only affected me in the fact that the last 15 years was a waste of time with this woman sexually. Other than that I am mentally okay cause (1) I don't care if she's satisfied or not, and (2) we use a bigger dildo all the time that seems to do the trick. Which keeps her around and allows me to get some ass whenever I need it so I can satisfy myself. 😆. The only thing that did come out of these last 15 years was my ability to eat pussy. I am a grand master at that at least. 😄

Expectations are the things that cause trouble in a relationship. I made it clear to her that I am in no way responsible for another persons pleasure or a means by which they derive sexual satisfaction.
She understands this and has agreed.

Just remember that things only discourage you if you let them have the power too! Keep moving forward my brothers to a bigger baddass you, and let the haters hate.
 
Sorry to hear that bro... Just keep your positive mentality as things can change fast. Plus, dont worry about sex, as its only sex. You had your kids, the life goal and that's all that should matter, in addition with your happiness.
How is your PE going though? If She wants fullness, its time to invest in all girth work day and night.
 
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