MoreThanLuck;687777 said:
Ouch! So the wife and I have a conversation this weekend about our sex life, and somehow she let it slip that she's never been satisfied sexually in our relationship because of my average junk. So I know her pretty well, so I ask her if she believes an orgasm is the point at which she is satisfied or is it just the act itself. She said that an orgasm is not as important as having that 'full' feeling all the time (because it does get looser during sex and its harder to achieve orgasm), and being able to hit all the spots effortlessly. So really this conversation only affected me in the fact that the last 15 years was a waste of time with this woman sexually. Other than that I am mentally okay cause (1) I don't care if she's satisfied or not, and (2) we use a bigger dildo all the time that seems to do the trick. Which keeps her around and allows me to get some ass whenever I need it so I can satisfy myself. 😆. The only thing that did come out of these last 15 years was my ability to eat pussy. I am a grand master at that at least. 😄

Expectations are the things that cause trouble in a relationship. I made it clear to her that I am in no way responsible for another persons pleasure or a means by which they derive sexual satisfaction.
She understands this and has agreed.

Just remember that things only discourage you if you let them have the power too! Keep moving forward my brothers to a bigger baddass you, and let the haters hate.

did she say 6 inch length or girth was what was perfect for her? Ah i'm sorry to hear she said that man, I have very deep paranoia my gf feels the same way.
 
Nolove;687784 said:
Sorry to hear that bro... Just keep your positive mentality as things can change fast. Plus, dont worry about sex, as its only sex. You had your kids, the life goal and that's all that should matter, in addition with your happiness.
How is your PE going though? If She wants fullness, its time to invest in all girth work day and night.

Its okay, there's always a silver lining. I do both girth and length work. Girth at night (erect stretches, hanging, and pumping), and now use the PF all day, but I won't focus purely on something because she feels like she needs it. That's her problem not mine. Work like this should never be done for the selfishness of others. Only yourself. Because if you're working towards someone else's expectations, you'll always lose out. Today she wants 6 inch girth. Tomorrow she wants 6.5 inch girth. The next day she wants 7 inch girth. You see where this is going. Point is, you can't satisfy everyone, not even your significant other.

It was funny cause this weekend we all went to go out together to get haircuts and run errands, and a new hairstylist came to cut my hair and she was this drop dead, absolutely gorgeous (by any mans standard), 20 y/o hotty with a great personality. For a second I was thinking this chick had to be a tranny. No woman could be this hot and not be crazy (reference crazy hot chart on youtube Hilarious!). Anyways, we were chatting and laughing and flirting and my wife was just sitting there watching the whole thing. When I came back she was soooo pissed. 😂 When we got back to the car I said, "hmm, nice to know I can get young hot girls if I wanted too with no problems". 😉😉😉. Note that all of this took place after our sex conversation. Haha
 
lightlyfried;687797 said:
did she say 6 inch length or girth was what was perfect for her? Ah i'm sorry to hear she said that man, I have very deep paranoia my gf feels the same way.

My bad, it was 6 inch girth that was perfect for her.
 
MoreThanLuck;687800 said:
Its okay, there's always a silver lining. I do both girth and length work. Girth at night (erect stretches, hanging, and pumping), and now use the PF all day, but I won't focus purely on something because she feels like she needs it. That's her problem not mine. Work like this should never be done for the selfishness of others. Only yourself. Because if you're working towards someone else's expectations, you'll always lose out. Today she wants 6 inch girth. Tomorrow she wants 6.5 inch girth. The next day she wants 7 inch girth. You see where this is going. Point is, you can't satisfy everyone, not even your significant other.

It was funny cause this weekend we all went to go out together to get haircuts and run errands, and a new hairstylist came to cut my hair and she was this drop dead, absolutely gorgeous (by any mans standard), 20 y/o hotty with a great personality. For a second I was thinking this chick had to be a tranny. No woman could be this hot and not be crazy (reference crazy hot chart on youtube Hilarious!). Anyways, we were chatting and laughing and flirting and my wife was just sitting there watching the whole thing. When I came back she was soooo pissed. 😂 When we got back to the car I said, "hmm, nice to know I can get young hot girls if I wanted too with no problems". 😉😉😉. Note that all of this took place after our sex conversation. Haha

I thought you said in another thread her limit was 6,5? Does she literally go from wanting 6.5 - 7 inch girth form day to day? Women like that will never be happy, 7"+ girth is rarer than rare.
 
wow! thank you for your honesty and transparency...that would be one tough pill to swallow. Unfortunately, detachment would be the only mechanism available for self-preservation and then you're also hurting yourself by doing so. I'm curious if every single man has had this haunting, never-mentioned fear of not being either the biggest she's had or be big enough to fully satisfy her. I know I have on almost every occasion regardless of the responses I get...I also wonder if every woman can sense this, (I'm guessing they can and the truly diabolical ones use it every chance they get).

Overcoming this fear I think should be one of the core fundamentals of PE...the freedom from fear should be a primary goal.
 
This thread has scared has scared me shitless. I guess if I gain the same as golfer john i could be above the 6" perfect girth.
 
lightlyfried;687806 said:
I thought you said in another thread her limit was 6,5? Does she literally go from wanting 6.5 - 7 inch girth form day to day? Women like that will never be happy, 7"+ girth is rarer than rare.

Her limit is 6.25. This is the point at which there is still more pleasure than there is pain. 6 inches is what she said was "perfect" when we first started using the other dildo. Then we went up to 6.25.

BTW, she's admittedly always been looser than normal. After the kids she's gotten even worse. But before the kids 5.5 was her general limit (verified through dildos). After the kids we though it was 6. Now its 6.25.

That relaxin-2 is some shit during pregnancy. Expands those ligaments and opens up the pelvis like it's no joke.
 
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lightlyfried;687816 said:
This thread has scared has scared me shitless. I guess if I gain the same as golfer john i could be above the 6" perfect girth.

Haha. I'm so sorry brother! The intention of this thread wasn't to scare or create fears in others. It was to vent frustrations a bit and allow myself and many others who have similar experiences to move forward. Note that this is 1 woman out of millions. I haven't had a problem satisfying other women; just this one. Insignificant I say when there are so many other women who are willing to take what she has (aka me). 😁

PE is salvation, but it's also a constant reminder of the prisons we put ourselves in. Why do men care so much that they can't satisfy a woman? What do we win if we do? What do we win if we don't? Nothing in both conditions. So if we are satisfying our own biological needs, why does it matter that someone elses needs aren't being met and how does that directly affect you? It doesn't.
 
lightlyfried;687816 said:
This thread has scared has scared me shitless. I guess if I gain the same as golfer john i could be above the 6" perfect girth.

I've always had that gnawing feeling and have tried, (unsuccessfully) to stuff it down and bury it...this site has been refreshing in the sense that it feels safe to explore those feelings/fears in a 99.9% healthy environment.

This is a very real issue that I never recall seeing discussed honestly ever! This could be at the very root of many insecurities that end-up manifesting into unhealthy behaviors. Am I the only one that feels this is a major point worthy of full exploration? This could remove that 'I thought I was the only guy to feel this way' isolationism. I think the OP exhibited some serious heuvos to put himself that far 'out there'...that's brave, thank you
 
MoreThanLuck;687826 said:
Haha. I'm so sorry brother! The intention of this thread wasn't to scare or create fears in others. It was to vent frustrations a bit and allow myself and many others who have similar experiences to move forward. Note that this is 1 woman out of millions. I haven't had a problem satisfying other women; just this one. Insignificant I say when there are so many other women who are willing to take what she has (aka me). 😁

PE is salvation, but it's also a constant reminder of the prisons we put ourselves in. Why do men care so much that they can't satisfy a woman? What do we win if we do? What do we win if we don't? Nothing in both conditions. So if we are satisfying our own biological needs, why does it matter that someone elses needs aren't being met and how does that directly affect you? It doesn't.

No harm done bro, vent away, i'd be doing the same in your situation. So before you both had children, 5.5 girth was her limit? If her limit post children was 6.25 thats reassuring as I could probably get to that and beyond in a year. Just preying in the next 5 years I get a minimum of 1 inch girth gain, and i'm in the safe zone lol! It just goes to show how are perceptions change, even me being above average I feel inadequate. If a size queen is satisfied after children with 6 girth, thats more reassuring ish I guess
 
MoreThanLuck;687777 said:
Ouch! So the wife and I have a conversation this weekend about our sex life, and somehow she let it slip that she's never been satisfied sexually in our relationship because of my average junk. So I know her pretty well, so I ask her if she believes an orgasm is the point at which she is satisfied or is it just the act itself. She said that an orgasm is not as important as having that 'full' feeling all the time (because it does get looser during sex and its harder to achieve orgasm), and being able to hit all the spots effortlessly. So really this conversation only affected me in the fact that the last 15 years was a waste of time with this woman sexually. Other than that I am mentally okay cause (1) I don't care if she's satisfied or not, and (2) we use a bigger dildo all the time that seems to do the trick. Which keeps her around and allows me to get some ass whenever I need it so I can satisfy myself. 😆. The only thing that did come out of these last 15 years was my ability to eat pussy. I am a grand master at that at least. 😄

Expectations are the things that cause trouble in a relationship. I made it clear to her that I am in no way responsible for another persons pleasure or a means by which they derive sexual satisfaction.
She understands this and has agreed.

Just remember that things only discourage you if you let them have the power too! Keep moving forward my brothers to a bigger baddass you, and let the haters hate.

At least she is honest! So many liars out there that do not realize, if you don't identify the problem you can not fix it. I suggest something I used to do, get my girth work in right before sex, this way I was any my thickest. With the BathMate you can make some great temporary gains to use during sex, just get a solid 5x5 set in and you will be thicker and she will be more satisfied. And remember, eventually she will get exactly the cock she wants, custom ordered and delivered by the Brotherhood.
 
doublelongdaddy;687841 said:
At least she is honest! So many liars out there that do not realize, if you don't identify the problem you can not fix it. I suggest something I used to do, get my girth work in right before sex, this way I was any my thickest. With the BathMate you can make some great temporary gains to use during sex, just get a solid 5x5 set in and you will be thicker and she will be more satisfied. And remember, eventually she will get exactly the cock she wants, custom ordered and delivered by the Brotherhood.

Very true! Though I'm looking for a way to shrink my penis to micro proportions just to spite her. 😝
 
MoreThanLuck;687878 said:
Very true! Though I'm looking for a way to shrink my penis to micro proportions just to spite her. 😝

Was she honest with her preference of size before you were married?
 
MoreThanLuck;687878 said:
Very true! Though I'm looking for a way to shrink my penis to micro proportions just to spite her. 😝

haha amazing,i think thats a sad n dissapointing situation,but if a woman wants something bigger shed have to look for it somewhere else.id continue whit my PE career.n things will improve for me..

She will be refgretful n will get lost for life LOL:)

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lightlyfried;687883 said:
Was she honest with her preference of size before you were married?

Good question.
 
lightlyfried;687883 said:
Was she honest with her preference of size before you were married?

No. We got married when we were 19. We were just in love and happy enough to have an ongoing partner. Penis size wasn't important to either of us (or at least it wasn't to me at the time). We're both 34 now.
 
MoreThanLuck;687927 said:
No. We got married when we were 19. We were just in love and happy enough to have an ongoing partner. Penis size wasn't important to either of us (or at least it wasn't to me at the time). We're both 34 now.

So it wasn't a topic of conversation prior?
 
lightlyfried;687958 said:
So it wasn't a topic of conversation prior?

No. Neither one of us were very experienced back then. She had a total of two partners before she met me (the first for a month, and the second was just sex one time). The first guy she couldn't even tell they were having sex (which makes me want to bring that dude to MOS. 😁 ), and the second guy was between 6-6.5 length, and 5.25-5.5 in girth. So the second guy was her only real reference point. I knew I was smaller than the 2nd guy, but she never mentioned that she liked bigger back then. That's when I went out and bought a Kaplan air pump (motorized and everything) and started using it secretly. I only used it a handful of times before I gave up (thinking it was all a hoax because I didn't see gains immediately) and 13 years later started using it again. Now I use it 3-4 days a week and have surpassed the 1.75 in diameter cylinder. I just wish I had used it this whole time. I would be a monster by now. Ohh well, one cannot dwell on the past. Must keep pushing forward and doing things the right way! 😊
 
golferjohn;688045 said:
I think I'd really struggle with this...kudos to you, you're a bigger man than I

Yes, its a huge hit, but I've been hit harder and I've gotten back up and said "hit me again bitch". Maybe I'm a glutton for punishment or maybe I just prefer the truth over believing the bullshit she's tried to spoon feed me over the years. Either way, when I step back from this I realize that I'm not small by any means. I'm right smack in the normal range which most men are anyways. Is it a crime to be normal? No. To me, that just means that most men wouldn't be able to satisfy her either. So I'm right back where I started. PE is her solution to her problem. I say her problem cause I've never had a problem with any other woman. Just saying. What does an apple falling in an orchard in west Virginia have to do with tsunami's in Japan....nothing right? Nor is it a direct problem of mine. That's all her, but PE is for me. The main thing that pisses me off about her is when she comes out of nowhere and lies to my face about enjoy a particular (recent) session of sex we've had. Ive already told her I don't care to hear about it and to just stop.

I honestly can't wait till I get to gigantic proportions. I'm gonna get a side chick and let my wife watch me fuck her with it, but never actually use it on my wife . 😈😈😈.
 
MoreThanLuck;687878 said:
Very true! Though I'm looking for a way to shrink my penis to micro proportions just to spite her. 😝

LMAO....:) I love that!
 
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