When does Size really matter?

Hey,

http://www.askmen.com/love/vanessa_60/87_love_secrets.html

I read this article, and it really puts things in perspective, now the survey isnt the biggest, but it makes sense. I cant tell you if its probably a article full of lies deisgned to make the average man feel good about himself.

But the last part of the article, Im going to quote:

"Most women surveyed agreed that a man could have the most confidence in the world; he could be a complete success personally, financially and in all the other areas that are of importance to him. But if he thinks that his penis is under average, or even average for that matter, suddenly everything else in his life pales in comparison to his underachieving pecker. "

I am definetly one of these guys, being on the higher end of average, I believe this to be true, I am not the most confident of persons.

Even with gains, people still feel bad about they're dick, thinking they still dont messure up, at this point im still searching for my first gains, and I love Penis Enlargement, but when I get them is it even going to make a difference? Many guys are 8 x 6 and still feel inadequate.

I dont see myself getting over the insecurity of my size until I make it bigger, I Just hope by than I will feel better about my dick. But I also got to thinking, all this for what? pleasing some girl in a 1-night stand? All this for gossip of having a huge dick and being a stunning lover in bed? If most girls are happy with average, what is the point? I mean many of us plan on screwing many girls, yeah, but when it comes to a relationship, how does size even matter? When does size really matter the most?

These are my questions, I maybe fully dont understand the picture, I am still a virgin, and I've never been in a serious relationship with a girl, but alot of with that article reads makes sense, but, I would also like some of those questions answered.

"I dont see myself getting over the insecurity of my size until I make it bigger, I Just hope by than I will feel better about my dick. But I also got to thinking, all this for what? pleasing some girl in a 1-night stand? All this for gossip of having a huge dick and being a stunning lover in bed? If most girls are happy with average, what is the point? I mean many of us plan on screwing many girls, yeah, but when it comes to a relationship, how does size even matter? When does size really matter the most?"


i can only comment on my personal perspective. i am doing Penis Enlargement to rid myself of my own insecurities. i know that if i settle down in a relationship then that woman would have accepted my size to be average, so to her the size wont make a difference. the difference is what you, yourself make of it! in other words, would you feel inadequate if your ex was having sex with someone you know to be very well hung? im guessing more than likely! the reason im doing Penis Enlargement is so that i can be the guy with the big dick that she talks about, and also to prevent my own insecurities from getting me down. on that note, i believe pe to be a personal choice - which will affect the rest of your life. only you can choose the road to walk down, and only you can give a reason for doing so.

You don't need a big dick to please a women,i never had any problem bring my wife to orgasm before i started pe but now she has much more intense orgasms and it take less effit on my part,she deffo enjoys deep penetration,as for me the sex is better as well,you carn't beat the feeling of getting deep inside of a womans pussy.

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I agree with what you both say, I am insecure like you EVO, thats why I Penis Enlargement, is to get bigger and get rid of my insecurities, at the same time I'm trying to feel good about what I have, its not working, its calm to realize if I settle down with a chick, yeah I guess it doesnt matter much, I can please her with what I have, right? If I plan on sleeping around, which I should cause god gave me the good looks to attract enough women to do so.. Being bigger is better, always. Im still in that hope stage of Penis Enlargement, were I havnt gained, so I dont fully believe in it, I just sort of take a stab in the wind that it works, and do my routines, but nothing seems to work for me (but thats another subject) I'm just trying to understand just how important it means to everyone.

prince Albert said:

You don't need a big dick to please a women,

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That's exactly right Albert, and in my experience you don't have to be that big to be BIG to most women. Many have the idea that 8 x 6 is a mininum, but I honestly don't think that the average woman can handle that size, perhaps sometimes in some positions but you wouldn't be able to slam it without causing pain. My wife has had three kids, and with an 8 x 6 dildo most of time I cannot get the last inch in. I am right at 7" x 5.5", and it amazes me how much difference that half inch of girth makes.


Now, I now that there are large vaginas out there that feel loose on a guy with 8 x 6. And, some women get into really stretching themselves with large toys or fisting etc. I'm just saying on average, 8 x 6 is HUGE to most women and can be painful to them if not used correctly. Watch some of the Monsters of Cock videos, Ramone has been measured at 8 x 6 and very few of the girls can take it slamming all the way in. In one a girl was asked afterwards what she liked best about it, she replied that she liked it best when she was on top and could control. When asked what she disliked the most, she replied that when he was slamming her hard it hurt.

Regardless of size, some women do NOT like being slammed hard & fast, while some love it - the harder the better. We've all heard about how women prefer girth over length, but it is also true that the more girth the less length they can take. My wife can handle a dildo that's a little over 7" in girth, after a lot of foreplay, but I can only get about 4" or 5" in at most. IMHO, about 7NBP x 6 is pretty ideal for the average woman if you want to be able to slam it in all positions, and I'd rather have a little more girth say 7NBP x 6.25 rather than the length of 8NBP x 6. Do you really want that 8 x 6, or 9 x 7, to please a woman more, or do you want it to be able to cause pain? Seems that some guys get off on that aspect, they'd like to hear a woman say it's too big she can't take it all.


wesb

wesb said:

That's exactly right Albert, and in my experience you don't have to be that big to be BIG to most women. Many have the idea that 8 x 6 is a mininum, but I honestly don't think that the average woman can handle that size, perhaps sometimes in some positions but you wouldn't be able to slam it without causing pain. My wife has had three kids, and with an 8 x 6 dildo most of time I cannot get the last inch in. I am right at 7" x 5.5", and it amazes me how much difference that half inch of girth makes.


Now, I now that there are large vaginas out there that feel loose on a guy with 8 x 6. And, some women get into really stretching themselves with large toys or fisting etc. I'm just saying on average, 8 x 6 is HUGE to most women and can be painful to them if not used correctly. Watch some of the Monsters of Cock videos, Ramone has been measured at 8 x 6 and very few of the girls can take it slamming all the way in. In one a girl was asked afterwards what she liked best about it, she replied that she liked it best when she was on top and could control. When asked what she disliked the most, she replied that when he was slamming her hard it hurt.

Regardless of size, some women do NOT like being slammed hard & fast, while some love it - the harder the better. We've all heard about how women prefer girth over length, but it is also true that the more girth the less length they can take. My wife can handle a dildo that's a little over 7" in girth, after a lot of foreplay, but I can only get about 4" or 5" in at most. IMHO, about 7NBP x 6 is pretty ideal for the average woman if you want to be able to slam it in all positions, and I'd rather have a little more girth say 7NBP x 6.25 rather than the length of 8NBP x 6. Do you really want that 8 x 6, or 9 x 7, to please a woman more, or do you want it to be able to cause pain? Seems that some guys get off on that aspect, they'd like to hear a woman say it's too big she can't take it all.


wesb

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You say the average dick is able to please a girl, but 6 inches girth is no where near average, thats above average girth.

I think our insecurity stems from the fact that sex is an important part of relationships, and that penis size is an irreplaceable part of sex. It doesn't matter if you're 10 times as good in bed than any other man, because that size is something you can never reproduce with technique. On the other hand there is very little deviation in penis size (0.5"-1" separates bottom fourth from top fourth), and all of us have the potential and drive to be considered big.

I've been rethinking this over the past few days, and I feel very fortunate to have some of the smallest fingers I have ever seen. I have never been picked by a size queen, and doubt I ever will. I have also gotten nothing but positive comments on my average size, and have never had a problem.

From my own experience, as a guy who used to be a very average 5x5 non bp I can say that you can satisfy a woman with no penis at all. However, a bigger boat in the ocean does make bigger waves....if the captain knows how to sail.

quoted from oliver:
"Being bigger is better, always."

quoted from spinner2:
"It doesn't matter if you're 10 times as good in bed than any other man, because that size is something you can never reproduce with technique."

Yep those are concepts that are I think are rooted at the heart of our insecurities. Take this conversation I had with my ex recently. It emerged that her new bf was "at least an inch bigger than you" - but that I was still the best she'd ever had.

One might think that surely, we'd rather be better than bigger, but I'm sure if most guys here are like me, the reverse is true. Far from feeling good about myself after this, I was left feeling so deflated and insecure I've done virtually nothing but Penis Enlargement and go to the gym lately.

Another thing is, I think, when girls talk amongst their girlfriends, chances are that they may well not be telling the truth most of the time. Indeed, when I asked her:
"So if anyone asked you who was best, you'd say me?" - she said:
"Well no obviously, I'd have to lie and say him, since I am going out with him"
But I get the idea that they may be more honest about size - especially if they have some experiences in common with their friends. It therefore can become quickly widely known throughout female circles if you're particularly big or small - while your actual skill may be a less consistent topic.
"Better" is subjective, dependent on the girl - size is concrete.

quoted from wesb:
"Do you really want that ...to please a woman more, or do you want it to be able to cause pain? Seems that some guys get off on that aspect"

I think that's the thing for all of us. When I asked why she didn't enjoy it as much with this guy, she mentioned something about my technique, and how we "fitted" together better, and then said something like:
"It hurt. When he really started to give it to me, it felt like it was slamming up here somewhere (points to her solar plexus region)" - Yep, she mercilessly spared me no details - but thats a whole other topic.

I was like, damn, I wanna be able to do that, reach those parts that other guys just can't, bottom out every girl, make her gasp. I keep torturing myself with mental images of her with him, and this slightly strained, pained expression on her face as she struggles to accomodate him, as opposed to the looks of pleasure and ecstasy that she produced with me (wish I could stop doing this). I don't know WHY I'd rather cause pleasure than pain, but I just kind of do, and I'm not alone as most of my friends have made similar remarks. Its not that I actually want to cause women MUCH pain either, I don't want to rip them open and make her bleed... just SLIGHT pain, a little gasp or an 'ow' when I get too deep, a bite of the lips on entry... Anyone know what I mean?

It's gotta be something primal, dominant alpha male thing rooted in our physiology. I think that by making our aim to give the women pleasure we are being suBathmateissive to her in a sense, whereas with the slight pain, we are imposing ourselves on her more, making her stretch to accomodate us. That's a theory anyway...

Isn't average girth around 5"? I thought I read that somewhere because I remember being happy that I was above average in girth. I'm focusing on clamping now so hopefully I'll be well above average before too long. I just can't seem to get length gains for some reason? so I'm trying girth for now to see if I can gain that way.

Rude_God said:

"Do you really want that ...to please a woman more, or do you want it to be able to cause pain?

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So deep on so many levels. Do we have a deep rooted, psychological need to have some sort of power over woman that causes pain? Is it our insecurities, the relationship we have with our penis, the fears we so obviously try to hide? I know it gave me a superficial ego boost when Jen would complain about pain, that was so sick. A healthy sexual relationship is one that is loving not painful as a means to "keep em hooked on the massive cock". Believe it or not I bet an extremely massive percentage of women would rather a average penis over a huge one. I think much of hype about a big penis is a media driven machine that affects men and woman in ways that are consistent with brainwashing. Look at us, we are driven to have the biggest, best penis in the world...where did these obsessions come from? I know no woman I have ever been with pre-pe EVER made a comment about my penis being small or even average, most said it was huge? I have been with over 100 women. My obsession happened when I became exposed to the internet ���� that hyped the big penis. I watched and envied them, if I could only have a cock like that women would fall at my feet. Not to forget the enjoyment the woman appeared to have from the pain...very brainwashing indeed. Poor Jen, she had to deal with my finding Penis Enlargement My thoughts were immediately "You mean I can get a big one?" What a revelation, what a miracle, what a curse.

The penis need not be massive or small, I think the penis should be correct for you mate. Such a hard topic to bring up but I think this show of 'insecurity' may even strengthen the love bond...good or bad. I tell you now, you can get a massive cock very easily, just do it. So is your lover happy with your size or does she want more? How the fuck is a woman supposed to tell you this? Very difficult to hear but what a cool thing to know and in my case, surpass all of Jen's lovers? Even today, I want more?!?

I think men have always been hardwired to want a bigger penis but the internet made it not only a reality but a phenomenon. What a gigantic market? You can imagine the money potential in first convincing men a woman wants a massive penis, prove it through ����, then give them the magic pill to cure their obsession...very clever and lucrative.

So why do I (we) do it? We are hooked like heroin. We have proven that the only method of really getting a big cock is through our methods...and almost no one knows this. We understand the brainwashing but we also know we can "really" change it. It's like beating the house in a dice came...over and over.

wesb said:

That's exactly right Albert, and in my experience you don't have to be that big to be BIG to most women. Many have the idea that 8 x 6 is a mininum, but I honestly don't think that the average woman can handle that size, perhaps sometimes in some positions but you wouldn't be able to slam it without causing pain. My wife has had three kids, and with an 8 x 6 dildo most of time I cannot get the last inch in. I am right at 7" x 5.5", and it amazes me how much difference that half inch of girth makes.


Now, I now that there are large vaginas out there that feel loose on a guy with 8 x 6. And, some women get into really stretching themselves with large toys or fisting etc. I'm just saying on average, 8 x 6 is HUGE to most women and can be painful to them if not used correctly. Watch some of the Monsters of Cock videos, Ramone has been measured at 8 x 6 and very few of the girls can take it slamming all the way in. In one a girl was asked afterwards what she liked best about it, she replied that she liked it best when she was on top and could control. When asked what she disliked the most, she replied that when he was slamming her hard it hurt.

Regardless of size, some women do NOT like being slammed hard & fast, while some love it - the harder the better. We've all heard about how women prefer girth over length, but it is also true that the more girth the less length they can take. My wife can handle a dildo that's a little over 7" in girth, after a lot of foreplay, but I can only get about 4" or 5" in at most. IMHO, about 7NBP x 6 is pretty ideal for the average woman if you want to be able to slam it in all positions, and I'd rather have a little more girth say 7NBP x 6.25 rather than the length of 8NBP x 6. Do you really want that 8 x 6, or 9 x 7, to please a woman more, or do you want it to be able to cause pain? Seems that some guys get off on that aspect, they'd like to hear a woman say it's too big she can't take it all.


wesb

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Makes allot of sense, the part about thick girth being harder to take in the whole length makes SO MUCH SENSE.

At the end of the day I feel its a MAN-THING with all this wanting to be HUGE or BIG buisness and many woman dont want it that large, average or just above would suit them fine and many have great sex with small to average dicks anyways but try telling us that our minds have made us think, myn incl that we need a larger dick .. I want one for my own reaosons because I just want a monster long cock with massive girth ... than the woman and girls will never forget me, I love the reaction they give when I shag them with my W of MD .... its a massive thrill, and when I do find the woman of my dreams she will except my size and she and I will have very passionate and intense sex ... it will all pay off in the end but at the end of the day we dont need the massive sizes we crave for .... many woman I spoke to say 7 inches length is good and they said [from looking at a toilet role tube] that it was a nice thickness ... so their you go.

I read through the comments and have to say I was impressed by the wise words of wesb, DLD and especially Rude God. :clap:
I'm glad to see that some people here are reflecting about the 'why' and don't start dull number hunting.

To the pain-causing-theme I want to add the following: I think some men here were hurt by the words of women they love, something in the way of: "My last boyfriend was bigger than you."
Maybe worse happened like his girlfriend left him for a 'bigger' man.
Understandable that this starts eating on a man, especially if he's insecure about his size or his manhood in general.
So he comes to Penis Enlargement and improves his size, only because of this one, single woman.
Like a skinny guy working out at a gym to be able to beat up his torturer one day, he wants to be bigger to punish the woman for her words. But in most cases he won't sleep with the 'enemy'-woman again after his improvement (usually only on a physical level), but his wounds can't scar over before he hasn't paid it back to someone and because the 'original enemy' isn't available (subconsiously) women in general become 'the enemy'.

As DLD often mentioned we shouldn't only improve our physics but also our mind (which is very probably more important). If you don't learn to accept, maybe even love yourself the way you are, you will never be able to be a happy man.
To improve your self-esteem it's very important not only to look at yourself and reflect about yourself but also to look at the people you spend your time with. If you see a man or woman as a friend or a lover and he/she makes you feel bad all the time, get rid of him/her.
Someone who doesn't accept you the way you are is neither your friend nor does he/she love you.

Like DLD said, I would like to know how to open up this subject to anygirl friend, especially, one that you care about! I think every one here is doing a fantastic job, and trying, is bettering yourself, their's only one way up! As regard to penis size, as retarded as it is, A bigger penis demands and commands more respect. Do we know why, not really, it just does?!? We do Really get brain washed watching ����, seeing the reaction of girls with big penises! we want to experience that power extremely bad, at all costs.(even surgery ? ) And could one blam us (except the surgery part) What we see on TV, channels like VH1 where they show all these tropical vacation spots, every one having a blast, going for theirs, if that's not motivation, to be bigger and better, then what is. As far as having a big penis for getting girls, having a big one will get you more one night stands, that's about it. Girlfriends don't need big dicks, they can manipulate very easily and get off just as easily(more or less). I do think older women, will require alittle more gith, like over 5.5, but that is right around the corner for almost everyone here, if not most of you guys have already! I feel many a times having a bigger dick, is and a defense mechanism, people have a harder time fucking with you( and I don't mean physically) when your looking down and their trying to make your sorrows deeper, but that's were it will stop at your dick, all you have to do is looks up!( I hope somebody here might understand what the hell I just said). Any way I know my girlfriend is asking, what the hell on earth are you doing, with her motherly instincts, she can tell, and feel me getting bigger, I am not embarressed about my Penis Enlargement hobby, I have told her a couple of times what I do, in response to all the scabs and marks on my dick I don't ever think I would Penis Enlargement in front of her, I think that would be a little to weird

Bump!

Such a important topic and one we should think about often. No use in making changes in our body if it does not stick mentally.