Used Bathmate and have BIG blood blister - HELP

I used my Bathmate earlier today and thought I noticed a 'slight' discomfort i wasn't used to but thought nothing of it, until i glanced round and noticed a huge lump on my head. I quickly released the pressure and took a look and its a really big blood blister.

Any ideas what I should do? Obviously i'm not gonna be doing any Penis Enlargement for a while but any idea with the healing process or if I should see a doctor or something? It's pretty nasty looking. Can post a pic if it would help.

Northernlad;558280 said:

I used my Bathmate earlier today and thought I noticed a 'slight' discomfort i wasn't used to but thought nothing of it, until i glanced round and noticed a huge lump on my head. I quickly released the pressure and took a look and its a really big blood blister.

Any ideas what I should do? Obviously i'm not gonna be doing any Penis Enlargement for a while but any idea with the healing process or if I should see a doctor or something? It's pretty nasty looking. Can post a pic if it would help.

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I think typically blood blisters heal on their own; I did a quick search for “blood blisters” on Google and came up with this.

http://www.top10homeremedies.com/how-to/how-to-get-rid-of-blood-blisters.html

It suggests: Ice, garlic, epson salt, tea tree oil, witch hazel, tea bag, cucumber, Turmeric, Sandalwood and aloe vera

I personally have never had a blood blister from the Bathmate but … I have screwed up my penis with it (specifically skin tears in one area and not all over). Now all you extreme Bathmate lovers don’t hate on me for saying this but I think my Bathmate injuries are the result of unequal pressure in the Bathmate and it might also be your issue. I haven’t had any such issues with the penomet. Right now I am actually letting myself heal up from a Bathmate X-40 injury so I am with you brother.

Pressure cannot be unequal in a liquid. Your problem stems from either: A. Too much time spent in the Bathmate; more than you are conditioned for, or, B. More intense vacuum than you are conditioned for. Especially if it's a blood blister. That means that a capillary or three has burst (fairly common during girth work especially) or you have separated skin layers and blood has filled the void.

Either way, a blood blister indicates that you are asking more of your body than it is prepared to handle.

After you've healed effectively, ease back on either intensity or duration. THEN as your body acclimates increase in intelligent amounts.

MAXAMEYES;558294 said:

Pressure cannot be unequal in a liquid. Your problem stems from either: A. Too much time spent in the Bathmate; more than you are conditioned for, or, B. More intense vacuum than you are conditioned for. Especially if it's a blood blister. That means that a capillary or three has burst (fairly common during girth work especially) or you have separated skin layers and blood has filled the void.

Either way, a blood blister indicates that you are asking more of your body than it is prepared to handle.

After you've healed effectively, ease back on either intensity or duration. THEN as your body acclimates increase in intelligent amounts.

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Perhaps it is the case the water pressure has to be equal; however, the water pumps I have seen so far haven’t remained completely full of water when the person started to pump. Now for me I lose much more water out of the Bathmate versus the penomet. Now the question I have is since part of the tube is void of water then is this air pressure (like air pumping) in that area and if it is could the pressure at the top be unequal because of this factor?

If anything at all the pressure would be higher (less vacuum-closer to ambient air pressure) in the air pocket than in the water. If there were any difference at all it would depend on two factors; the size of the air pocket and the actual amount of vacuum pumped to. The larger each of these values, the larger the potential discrepancy.


As for me, my Bathmate holds and doesn't leak at all. I love it.

superman05xx;558297 said:

Perhaps it is the case the water pressure has to be equal; however, the water pumps I have seen so far haven’t remained completely full of water when the person started to pump. Now for me I lose much more water out of the Bathmate versus the penomet. Now the question I have is since part of the tube is void of water then is this air pressure (like air pumping) in that area and if it is could the pressure at the top be unequal because of this factor?

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MAXAMEYES;558325 said:

If anything at all the pressure would be higher (less vacuum-closer to ambient air pressure) in the air pocket than in the water. If there were any difference at all it would depend on two factors; the size of the air pocket and the actual amount of vacuum pumped to. The larger each of these values, the larger the potential discrepancy.


As for me, my Bathmate holds and doesn't leak at all. I love it.

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I had around an inch or so at the top that was without water and that’s where my injury is … below the glans (about an inch or so). It should have been at the glans but I tape them. Northenlad also mentioned his injury was around the top of his penis (the head).

I theorize that if the Bathmate doesn’t stay completely full of water it could eventually lead to injuries at higher pressures.

Now that makes me curious, Northenlad how much space was at the top of your Bathmate was without water when you had your injury? Also do you have problems with your Bathmate leaking?

I'll repeat: there is NO pressure in a Bathmate; it uses vacuum, not pressure.

A quick science re-cap:
There are two classes of fluids, Gasses & Liquids.
Force is distributed equally in a static fluid, in all directions. at all times.
Water is a non-compressible, non-expansible fluid.
Air is both compressible and expansible.
At the tiny vacuum gradients found in a Bathmate the difference between the water and air is effectively non-existent.

A much more logical theory is that a man's internal blood pressure, when exposed to the vacuum in the Bathmate, simply pushed the blood to the surface of the skin via an injured or naturally weak spot, just below the glans.

superman05xx;558328 said:

I had around an inch or so at the top that was without water and that’s where my injury is … right below the glans. It should have been at the glans but I tape them. Northenlad also mentioned his injury was around the top of his penis (the head).

I theorize that if the Bathmate doesn’t stay completely full of water it could eventually lead to injuries at higher pressures.

Now that makes me curious, Northenlad how much space was at the top of your Bathmate was without water when you had your injury? Also do you have problems with your Bathmate leaking?

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http://Bathmatecheckout.com/ca/X-40.php

Notice on the Bathmate chart, the vacuum in air is less than half that produced in water.

.17 bar as opposed to .40 bar.

If more intense vacuum were the culprit for injury it would be twice as likely to occur in the water than in the air.

Overenthusiasm and insufficient conditioning are far more likely the cause of your respective injuries.

MAXAMEYES;558333 said:

http://Bathmatecheckout.com/ca/X-40.php

Notice on the Bathmate chart, the vacuum in air is less than half that produced in water.

.17 bar as opposed to .40 bar.

If more intense vacuum were the culprit for injury it would be twice as likely to occur in the water than in the air.

Overenthusiasm and insufficient conditioning are far more likely the cause of your respective injuries.

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I'm not following you 100% because earlier you said "If anything at all the pressure would be higher (less vacuum-closer to ambient air pressure) in the air pocket than in the water," have you changed your position? I think the general idea is it is easier to hurt yourself in an air pump versus a water pump and I believe Bathmate agrees:

“Conventional air vacuum developers allow the air within to act like a sponge - they compress and expand without enlarging the penis in proportion; this results in the enlargement of certain areas and not others i.e. foreskin and not length or thickness. The Bathmate is filled with water, positioned and sealed at the base. Water is expelled by compressing the Bathmate pump system; this produces the volume and area inside the Bathmate. Balance is achieved for growth.”

http://Bathmatecheckout.com/ca/faq.php

Taking Bathmate’s quote as fact, “[Air pumps] compress and expand without enlarging the penis in proportion” it could be that in the air pocket of the Bathmate expansion is not “balanced” and it could cause the (even) lower force to be concentrated on certain areas and cause extra “vacuum” to those areas thereby causing injuries in localized areas.

The Bathmate is both an air and a water pump. When you don’t put water in the Bathmate it acts as every other air pump. I believe the same is the case for the area of the pump that does not contain water … in this area of the pump it probably acts as an air pump.

I think serious note should be paid to the fact that the injuries are in the same area (and by same area I mean the air which probably was in the air pocket). I think if Northenlad wanted to test this further he should attempt to have his pump completely full of water and have no air pocket and see if he has any injuries then (after he heals up of course).

MAXAMEYES;558331 said:

I'll repeat: there is NO pressure in a Bathmate; it uses vacuum, not pressure.

A quick science re-cap:
There are two classes of fluids, Gasses & Liquids.
Force is distributed equally in a static fluid, in all directions. at all times.
Water is a non-compressible, non-expansible fluid.
Air is both compressible and expansible.
At the tiny vacuum gradients found in a Bathmate the difference between the water and air is effectively non-existent.

A much more logical theory is that a man's internal blood pressure, when exposed to the vacuum in the Bathmate, simply pushed the blood to the surface of the skin via an injured or naturally weak spot, just below the glans.

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I would agree with your statement: "A much more logical theory is that a man's internal blood pressure, when exposed to the vacuum in the Bathmate, simply pushed the blood to the surface of the skin via an injured or naturally weak spot, just below the glans" .... however, neither one of our injuries were right below the glans. Northenlad's is on the glans and when I said earlier mine was right below the glans it more specifically is about an inch away from the glans. I edited that post so it would be less confusing.

Pressure: I use it to refer to internal pressure in an outward direction ... terms aren't as important as that the point is understood.

lOl, I was just thinking it was be really funny if Northenlad weighs in at this point and says his pump was completely full of water with no air pocket. lOl, it would make this whole decision seem sili. So Northenlad weigh in why don't you - do you have an air pocket?

P.S. Maxaeyes don't think I am attacking or anything, I enjoy having decisions of logic and reasoning in a friendly manner such as this to try to uncover truth.

One of the points I was trying to make, perhaps not quite so clearly, was that most guys use the corona as an anchor point during stretches and that, as a consequence, injuries can occur where the grip is applied. Sometimes "pinch points" occur where the fold of a knuckle meets the glans or (in my case actually) the frenum.
Blisters, and blood blisters, are very localized injuries most often caused by a pinch or compression trauma. Team that pinch up with a vacuum source and a blood blister is easily come by.

Ever see pics of guys who pump to the ridiculous "donut" stage?
That's much more likely to occur than a blood blister just from water pumping alone.

Blood in your penis, my penis...anybody's penis, during an erection is under a fair amount of pressure which will attempt to "fill the void" produced by the vacuum inside the Bathmate tube and, like electricity, it will take the path of least resistance.
Pressure, and Vacuum, being distributed equally in each of the working fluids inside the Bathmate means that the entire water volume is under the same vacuum and the entire air volume is under its own, equalized vacuum. One tiny localized area such as to cause one single blister just doesn't exist.

If a vacuum gradient does, in fact exist internal to the Bathmate it is both minor and proportional to the relative fluid volumes contained; it would not have a definitive and discrete boundary at the meniscus.

superman05xx;558343 said:

I would agree with your statement: "A much more logical theory is that a man's internal blood pressure, when exposed to the vacuum in the Bathmate, simply pushed the blood to the surface of the skin via an injured or naturally weak spot, just below the glans" .... however, neither one of our injuries were right below the glans. Northenlad's is on the glans and when I said earlier mine was right below the glans it more specifically is about an inch away from the glans. I edited that post so it would be less confusing.

Pressure: I use it to refer to internal pressure in an outward direction ... terms aren't as important as that the point is understood.

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Oh yeah; I love a damn good debate too.
And it really wouldn't matter to me too much even if you were attacking; I just don't take some things personally.
Some guys get outrageously bent outta shape on these forums (not so much MOS; a relatively civil crowd here) but in the end all it is is words on a screen...I ain't got the energy for that amount of emotionality.

Actually, yes i believe there was a gap of air at the top, i can never seem to get the Bathmate completely full of water - possibly because of my erection angle.

Also interestingly, this was the first time i used the pump after taking some L-Arginine tablets.. They have an effect on blood so could that be a contributing factor?

MAXAMEYES;558349 said:

One of the points I was trying to make, perhaps not quite so clearly, was that most guys use the corona as an anchor point during stretches and that, as a consequence, injuries can occur where the grip is applied. Sometimes "pinch points" occur where the fold of a knuckle meets the glans or (in my case actually) the frenum.
Blisters, and blood blisters, are very localized injuries most often caused by a pinch or compression trauma. Team that pinch up with a vacuum source and a blood blister is easily come by.

Ever see pics of guys who pump to the ridiculous "donut" stage?
That's much more likely to occur than a blood blister just from water pumping alone.

Blood in your penis, my penis...anybody's penis, during an erection is under a fair amount of pressure which will attempt to "fill the void" produced by the vacuum inside the Bathmate tube and, like electricity, it will take the path of least resistance.
Pressure, and Vacuum, being distributed equally in each of the working fluids inside the Bathmate means that the entire water volume is under the same vacuum and the entire air volume is under its own, equalized vacuum. One tiny localized area such as to cause one single blister just doesn't exist.

If a vacuum gradient does, in fact exist internal to the Bathmate it is both minor and proportional to the relative fluid volumes contained; it would not have a definitive and discrete boundary at the meniscus.

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The only thing I find very strange about all this is I pump to the same level as the Bathmate and higher in the penomet (and for longer periods of time) with no injuries as compared to the Bathmate. Weird huh ... so that leads me to the conclusion something must be very different about the pumps.

All I know is that this blister is showing no signs of leaving... :/

Northernlad;558455 said:

All I know is that this blister is showing no signs of leaving... :/

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Those things take some time. I don't remember any blister on my hand or anything that did not take at least a week to heal.

Northernlad;558455 said:

All I know is that this blister is showing no signs of leaving... :/

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The blister will eventually go away on its own, do not try to pop it! Let it heal through warm baths and hot compresses. When going back to pumping keep it along the SRT methods of 5 x 5 x 3, this method works best with bringing gains and avoiding issues like retention and blisters.

Thanks, I've just had a long bath and it has kinda popped a little bit. Going to start right from the very start following your newbie routine as what I'm doing obviously isn't helping me.