UCLA size study

For One Night Stands, Girth Matters

So I was searching around trying to find the results for a study done by ucla in which they got a bunch of women & printed out various penis sizes on a 3d printer so they could actually handle them instead of just coming up with a number, the results were 6.5" length was the most chosen but they stated that girth was the largely more important factor but didn't specify what that was? I've searched all over the place looking for these results just out of curiosity but can't find it, does anyone know if the results were ever published anywhere?

Aussigymguy;624305 said:

For One Night Stands, Girth Matters

So I was searching around trying to find the results for a study done by ucla in which they got a bunch of women & printed out various penis sizes on a 3d printer so they could actually handle them instead of just coming up with a number, the results were 6.5" length was the most chosen but they stated that girth was the largely more important factor but didn't specify what that was? I've searched all over the place looking for these results just out of curiosity but can't find it, does anyone know if the results were ever published anywhere?

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i had never heard of this survery. very cool though. i know similar surveys have been done with similar results to 6.5" if not the same exact results.

on a side note it makes no sense to me why they would use a 3D printer. just buy a few dildos lol

For some reason I doubt the findings in this study (and the others that I have heard of with similar results). Although I know there are women out there that prefer average length, I think the vast majority of women prefer 8+ inches, and maybe even 9+ inches. I was about 7 inches BPEL and 6.75 inches NBPEL before I started PE and when I was in good shape, and I always remember feeling like the women could take more and did want more. That is my idea and I think it is true despite what these studies may say.

I honestly think when women say they prefer anything less then 8 inches, they are doing so to make the guy feel better. Plus I think that most women believe that guys with big dicks are more likely to be players or to cheat on them, and that explains why they say they want average/larger side of average.

Girth, on the other hand, I agree with. Most women want a huge girth even if they don't care much for a long dick.

boohoohoo;624311 said:

For some reason I doubt the findings in this study (and the others that I have heard of with similar results). Although I know there are women out there that prefer average length, I think the vast majority of women prefer 8+ inches, and maybe even 9+ inches. I was about 7 inches BPEL and 6.75 inches NBPEL before I started PE and when I was in good shape, and I always remember feeling like the women could take more and did want more. That is my idea and I think it is true despite what these studies may say.

I honestly think when women say they prefer anything less then 8 inches, they are doing so to make the guy feel better. Plus I think that most women believe that guys with big dicks are more likely to be players or to cheat on them, and that explains why they say they want average/larger side of average.

Girth, on the other hand, I agree with. Most women want a huge girth even if they don't care much for a long dick.

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understandable reasoning

Aussigymguy;624305 said:

For One Night Stands, Girth Matters

So I was searching around trying to find the results for a study done by ucla in which they got a bunch of women & printed out various penis sizes on a 3d printer so they could actually handle them instead of just coming up with a number, the results were 6.5" length was the most chosen but they stated that girth was the largely more important factor but didn't specify what that was? I've searched all over the place looking for these results just out of curiosity but can't find it, does anyone know if the results were ever published anywhere?

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That was a good read, thanks!

boohoohoo;624311 said:

For some reason I doubt the findings in this study (and the others that I have heard of with similar results). Although I know there are women out there that prefer average length, I think the vast majority of women prefer 8+ inches, and maybe even 9+ inches. I was about 7 inches BPEL and 6.75 inches NBPEL before I started PE and when I was in good shape, and I always remember feeling like the women could take more and did want more. That is my idea and I think it is true despite what these studies may say.

I honestly think when women say they prefer anything less then 8 inches, they are doing so to make the guy feel better. Plus I think that most women believe that guys with big dicks are more likely to be players or to cheat on them, and that explains why they say they want average/larger side of average.

Girth, on the other hand, I agree with. Most women want a huge girth even if they don't care much for a long dick.

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i personally dont agree, for a coupe of reasons. first being that many cant take more than like 7 inches before it hits the cervix, so if theyve had experience of this before they may not like a long one, and if it is really long they wont want all of it in them. also, many women will likely have never seen one in real life thats over 7 inches, so can be a scared by an 8+ one thinking it will hurt them (which it actually might). if a woman is particularly 'deep' longer would be better, but not for the average. for the average woman i think the perfect size is anything that can bottom out, which is usually around the 6.5 - 7.5 inch nbp mark. more than this may be appealing but purely on a visual level. i think in studies like this many women either pick a size theyve had previously and have good sex, or picky a size slightly larger than the biggest theyve been with. for a guy with over 8 inches, it may be beneficial in certain positions but difficult in others.

Aussigymguy;624305 said:

For One Night Stands, Girth Matters

So I was searching around trying to find the results for a study done by ucla in which they got a bunch of women & printed out various penis sizes on a 3d printer so they could actually handle them instead of just coming up with a number, the results were 6.5" length was the most chosen but they stated that girth was the largely more important factor but didn't specify what that was? I've searched all over the place looking for these results just out of curiosity but can't find it, does anyone know if the results were ever published anywhere?

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I don't really trust what a woman says her opinion is, even out of a study of 300. Maybe I'm just jaded but I am convinced bigger is better.

jordey;624381 said:

i personally dont agree, for a coupe of reasons. first being that many cant take more than like 7 inches before it hits the cervix, so if theyve had experience of this before they may not like a long one, and if it is really long they wont want all of it in them. also, many women will likely have never seen one in real life thats over 7 inches, so can be a scared by an 8+ one thinking it will hurt them (which it actually might). if a woman is particularly 'deep' longer would be better, but not for the average. for the average woman i think the perfect size is anything that can bottom out, which is usually around the 6.5 - 7.5 inch nbp mark. more than this may be appealing but purely on a visual level. i think in studies like this many women either pick a size theyve had previously and have good sex, or picky a size slightly larger than the biggest theyve been with. for a guy with over 8 inches, it may be beneficial in certain positions but difficult in others.

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yeah i think most women could get addicted to a 7 x5 or x6 they would love that size and that would give them a lot of satisfaction and happiness:cool:

women's vaginas can stretch to 200% there usual size if and only if they are fully 100% aroused, the issue comes in when they are not 100 % ready for sex but the guy wants it right away, the women knows she is not fully ready for penetration but doesn't want to disappoint the man that she is willing to have sex with so she does it anyway not achieving her full arousal. The most tell tale sign of a women's non arousal state is if you are hitting her cervix which shouldn't be happening if she was fully aroused, most of the time guys just want to hit it and quit it so they develop a lack of care for the women's pleasure and in turn creates a shitty sex scenario for women cause they can't really cum and for men since it turns them into terrible lays which could effect their relationships when they get into one.

going all out;624428 said:

women's vaginas can stretch to 200% there usual size if and only if they are fully 100% aroused, the issue comes in when they are not 100 % ready for sex but the guy wants it right away, the women knows she is not fully ready for penetration but doesn't want to disappoint the man that she is willing to have sex with so she does it anyway not achieving her full arousal. The most tell tale sign of a women's non arousal state is if you are hitting her cervix which shouldn't be happening if she was fully aroused, most of the time guys just want to hit it and quit it so they develop a lack of care for the women's pleasure and in turn creates a shitty sex scenario for women cause they can't really cum and for men since it turns them into terrible lays which could effect their relationships when they get into one.

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while its true vaginas can stretch that much, its worth noting that when not aroused a womans vagina is only around 3-4 inches deep. this means that even if a woman increased in size when aroused on the upper end of that percentage (right at 200), aroused the woman would on average be 7 inches deep. for some woman it will be less, some more. despite me not being huge i have hit the cervix before, even with 30+ minutes of foreplay, as have many others

This is right in line with the stripper survey that came out some time ago, I am not sure where the thread was but I do know that the results, lengthwise, were the same. Most of the strippers stated that 6.5" was the perfect size and anything more was too big. I wonder how the same 3d penis survey would do with men who did not know the sizes, I bet men would end up picking a size that was smaller than they perceived.

jordey;624381 said:

i personally dont agree, for a coupe of reasons. first being that many cant take more than like 7 inches before it hits the cervix, so if theyve had experience of this before they may not like a long one, and if it is really long they wont want all of it in them. also, many women will likely have never seen one in real life thats over 7 inches, so can be a scared by an 8+ one thinking it will hurt them (which it actually might). if a woman is particularly 'deep' longer would be better, but not for the average. for the average woman i think the perfect size is anything that can bottom out, which is usually around the 6.5 - 7.5 inch nbp mark. more than this may be appealing but purely on a visual level. i think in studies like this many women either pick a size theyve had previously and have good sex, or picky a size slightly larger than the biggest theyve been with. for a guy with over 8 inches, it may be beneficial in certain positions but difficult in others.

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I really don't know about the whole bottoming out thing. I was 7 inches before I did any sort of PE, and I have never bottomed out with any woman I have been with, not even close. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it just hasn't happened for me.

I guess it just comes to depth of a vagina. Different women can take upto different sizes. Another factor is the arousal level, yes. I am sure we can all agree that whether it is girth or length- too much is not good for women's pleasure. ( https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091006003621AAQqXWv), ( How to avoid hitting my cervix during sex? - Sexual Health - GirlsAskGuys.com )- these links are very helpful, take a good read. I remember asking DLD on this and he said that the best thing he used to do in this situation is sit on a chair and have his girl ride him. That way she has full control over the action and she can control how deep she wants it to be and that way I think she can avoid the cervix and still go all in (though, I do not know actually how, but I remember that's what I read).

boohoohoo;624589 said:

I really don't know about the whole bottoming out thing. I was 7 inches before I did any sort of PE, and I have never bottomed out with any woman I have been with, not even close. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it just hasn't happened for me.

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How would you know if you're bottoming out or not, let alone that you didn't even "came close" to it? I've always read people talking about it here when I asked "how do you guys know?" nobody would have had an answer. In fact, I'm a bit skeptical about such claims. In most cases the only proof is the pain when the cervix is hit (which isn't very joyful or sth do be desired>had that a few days ago and even then I felt no difference and how would I? one's dick is not nearly as "sensually intelligent" as, for example, your fingers are).

Zambrodom3;624613 said:

I guess it just comes to depth of a vagina. Different women can take upto different sizes. Another factor is the arousal level, yes. I am sure we can all agree that whether it is girth or length- too much is not good for women's pleasure. ( https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091006003621AAQqXWv), ( How to avoid hitting my cervix during sex? - Sexual Health - GirlsAskGuys.com )- these links are very helpful, take a good read. I remember asking DLD on this and he said that the best thing he used to do in this situation is sit on a chair and have his girl ride him. That way she has full control over the action and she can control how deep she wants it to be and that way I think she can avoid the cervix and still go all in (though, I do not know actually how, but I remember that's what I read).

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When I was with Jen we always had sex with her sitting on me as she could regulate how much insertion she would take. I would have loved to hit her from the back but it always caused too much pain.

boohoohoo;624589 said:

I really don't know about the whole bottoming out thing. I was 7 inches before I did any sort of PE, and I have never bottomed out with any woman I have been with, not even close. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it just hasn't happened for me.

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7 inches nbp? if so may just be a coincidence that youve been with 'deeper' women

Satyr;624624 said:

How would you know if you're bottoming out or not, let alone that you didn't even "came close" to it? I've always read people talking about it here when I asked "how do you guys know?" nobody would have had an answer. In fact, I'm a bit skeptical about such claims. In most cases the only proof is the pain when the cervix is hit (which isn't very joyful or sth do be desired>had that a few days ago and even then I felt no difference and how would I? one's dick is not nearly as "sensually intelligent" as, for example, your fingers are).

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ive known in the past ive bottomed out due to not being able to push anymore (hitting a dead end) and/ or a wince from the girl, or asking to not go as deep

Satyr;624624 said:

How would you know if you're bottoming out or not, let alone that you didn't even "came close" to it?

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Correct me if I am wrong, but when you "bottom out" doesn't that mean you physically hit the cervix and cannot go any deeper? If that is the case, I may have bottomed out with one girl a few times, but definitely not always. I remember distinctly running into something on a few occasions with my penis, but I don't know if it was the cervix or not.

I say I didn't come close to it because I have been told by several women that they had been with bigger. Also, when it comes to actually having sex I don't think NBPEL and BPEL make little if no difference, because if you are going all the way in the fat pad will just get pushed back.

boohoohoo;624589 said:

I really don't know about the whole bottoming out thing. I was 7 inches before I did any sort of PE, and I have never bottomed out with any woman I have been with, not even close. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it just hasn't happened for me.

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boohoohoo;624792 said:

Correct me if I am wrong, but when you "bottom out" doesn't that mean you physically hit the cervix and cannot go any deeper? If that is the case, I may have bottomed out with one girl a few times, but definitely not always. I remember distinctly running into something on a few occasions with my penis, but I don't know if it was the cervix or not.

I say I didn't come close to it because I have been told by several women that they had been with bigger. Also, when it comes to actually having sex I don't think NBPEL and BPEL make little if no difference, because if you are going all the way in the fat pad will just get pushed back.

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thats exactly what the cervix would be like. it may not have happened every time because of the position or level of arousal. different positions can shorten or lengthen the vagina.

as for bp being used in sex, i dont personally agree. if someone has a fairly big fat paid, theres only so much it can compress during sex. yes you can compress it and get it to the bone for measuring, but this at one tiny point, not the amount neeeded for sex. i dont think the fat can compress that much, so it wont be the same as a slimmer guy with the same done pressed length

jordey;624797 said:

as for bp being used in sex, i dont personally agree. if someone has a fairly big fat paid, theres only so much it can compress during sex. yes you can compress it and get it to the bone for measuring, but this at one tiny point, not the amount neeeded for sex. i dont think the fat can compress that much, so it wont be the same as a slimmer guy with the same done pressed length

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Well if that is the case I am fucked right now, because my fat pad is at least 1.5 inches. I intend to lose around 100 lbs in the coming year though, and if that happens and my rate of gains continue I should see a difference of almost 3 inches of NBPEL by the end of 2015. Here is to hoping.

Also, I may be in the minority here, but I would love to be able to bottom out with every chick I am with whenever I want. I am not the type that will feel bad if I have a few inches left out in the cold.

A penis is much more visually imposing running around loose in dildo form .. when not set against the much more massive backdrop of 170 to 300 lb dudes they're usually attached to. With a dildo there's no sense of scale available to 'minimalize' the relative size, so they get scarier a lot faster when a chick is holding them unattached.

If you look at that popular vibrator format called the 'Jackrabbit' it's probably featuring 6 to 6.5 in of insertable depth. That might seem to argue for it as a desired size ... but once again we're discussing a dildo (and one that can vibe and spin and rub a clit all at the same time). As an unanimated regular old meatpole attached to a dude .. that same 6 to 6.5 inch insertable depth is going to be a lot less entertaining.

If I were to correct their study's methodology, I'd say to produce the different dildo sizes as silicone attachments for a male 'RealDoll'. Have the subjects examine and make their preference choices once as loose dildoes - without the women being aware of any objective information about which is what size, ... and then after some amount of distractive activity (lunch, a movie, whatever) have them see the selections again attached to a life-sized male doll and record their preferences a second time for comparison.

About cervix depth ... if the chick isn't 'tented' up with excitatory anticipation/arousal then it's entirely possible to 'bottom out' on the cervix at about 2.5 inches or so. Even when fully primed for sex the cervix will not typically be the deepest point, it forms an 'anticline' (to call it something) ... like a reverse volcano ... dipping down from the roof, the anterior fornix region (the deep spot) , in front of the cervix usually being the deepest point of the vagina. Hitting this and stretching it out can be potentially painful if done with velocity (the same with your balls ... big difference between a loving slow lick vs being slapped with a baseball) ... but even bottoming on the deep spot is generally considered pleasurable and indeed it forms its own erogenous zone. The cervix is a more delicate area and doesn't like direct impacts (for most chicks ... have met some that did like it when really riled up). So you've got apples and oranges. Stretching out the vagina, if not done too dynamically, is pleasurable and adds to the sense of fullness and can aid orgasming in the AFE zone, but direct hits and glancing blows off the cervix can get you some wincing or a little timeout.