Two years into Pickup/Seduction, sample size.

Hey all.

So the last 2 years I've been single, I did a great job of motivating myself to get great at pickup and seduction, and have hooked up with roughly 30-40 women.

You can see my stats in my sig.

Anyways, even with my modest size (by MOS standards), out of the 30+ women I've banged they've all had incredibly tight vaginas and commented on my size. I've never been called huge, but I get 'big', 'sizable', and 'thick'.

There were only 2 women out of the sample that had what I'd consider 'loose' or 'large' vaginas. Keep in mind, I've only bottomed out 2 girls in my life, also (because my length isn't stellar, but make up for it with the girth).

Additionally, only 3 girls out of all of them were able to deepthroat me, and not that it's a gag reflex, but actually fit their mouths around the halfway point of my cock. NOTE: those 3 girls were chubby

Just food for thought for you more insecure guys out there. 6" IS BIG!

If you're on the slightly smaller end of the spectrum, you don't have to get that far to rise above the deviation!

Yes!! so true what's average these days anyhow 5? I keep reading online it's all about the girth during sex and 7-8 inch EL and you can bottom out most women.
Ideal girth size is it 6-6.5 inches anymore and it's getting to big?

8incyclops;595849 said:

Yes!! so true what's average these days anyhow 5? I keep reading online it's all about the girth during sex and 7-8 inch EL and you can bottom out most women.
Ideal girth size is it 6-6.5 inches anymore and it's getting to big?

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6-6.5 might be a tad too much, mid 5ish I'd say. Fills them up, anal is doable and quickies are somewhat possible but different for everyone

A lot of guys are going for the magic 8 EL and 6 EG
Yeah 6 is pretty big I think length 7-8 is best women are saying it's all about the girth

Yup you are well above average.

Just to confirm what you're saying... I'm about the same length and I've gotten called "big/huge" before. I'm bottoming out the girl I'm fucking now. I think if people want to be able to go balls deep in a girl while still getting good reactions about their size, then 7-7.25" is an easy goal. You won't get the monster cock reactions, but girls will still think you're big and go tell their friends about your dick.

Lately I've been talking to lots of girls and it seems like ALL of them prefer girth over length... period. Now there was another thread around started by LIGHTNING, where we started discussing that 5-5.5 is more of a perfect girth (cause 6+ starts to get painful instead of pleasure-able) and length- that 7 is a great size for it. I dont know how true this is, but I have to agree that the magical 8 x 6 is called magical for a reason. But yea, lets make a discussion guys, what is your own experience on size and comments. I want to make more of a girth discussion rather than length- cause even if your length is too big- you can just not stick it in so deep, but girth is what determines whether the girth "feels you", has a good time or starts considering sex painful instead of pleasure-able. I want to see what you think boys

I was 6.5" x 4.75" before PE and I was with many, many girls and out of all of them only once did a women respond that she had bigger. Women always made guesstimates at my size that were easy above what it was. One girl even spray painted "Mikes Big Dick" all over the town I lived in. Today I can not imagine what they would say, the only sexual experience I had with a new woman was years ago and she went mental over my size, I felt like __________. Men who hold themselves back from sex in fear of being too small need to realize most men share their size and it is not an issue for them. Have confidence in your size and keep hold of the fact that PE will make you bigger and bigger.

doublelongdaddy;595981 said:

I was 6.5" x 4.75" before PE and I was with many, many girls and out of all of them only once did a women respond that she had bigger. Women always made guesstimates at my size that were easy above what it was. One girl even spray painted "Mikes Big Dick" all over the town I lived in. Today I can not imagine what they would say, the only sexual experience I had with a new woman was years ago and she went mental over my size, I felt like __________. Men who hold themselves back from sex in fear of being too small need to realize most men share their size and it is not an issue for them. Have confidence in your size and keep hold of the fact that PE will make you bigger and bigger.

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What do you mean she went "mental"? What'd she say? I need to live vicariously through you.

PumperNickle;595987 said:

What do you mean she went "mental"? What'd she say? I need to live vicariously through you.

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That there was no way she could fit it and that she never saw anything so big. Sex was crummy because I could not fit in her and I needed to get myself semi-erect to get any penetration at all. She was a stripper too that saw many men. She worked at King of Diamonds and that is mainly a black club so I definitely got an ego boost but no real pleasure in the sex.

You have to imagine this guys, would sex be good to us if the pussy put blisters and cuts on our cocks? Have you ever dry jerked so much and got rub-burns on your dick and it got over sensitized where you couldn't touch it for days until it healed? You probably wouldn't want to have sex with that person ever again if that happened to you. As much as we want to rip that pussy apart with a huge girth cock, 99.9% of women on this planet fear for that to happen. As I mentioned in other threads here, when I use to manage/direct Ramon from Monsters of Cock, it was next to impossible to hire new ���� actresses to fuck him for a reasonable price. Women had no problem doing a tug-job scene with him but they would not allow him to fuck them or other Monsters of Cock actors I worked with.

Women want to be sexually satisfied and enjoy the sex even if they orgasm or not. Most women just fuck their man to have someone to get close to and cuddle with. I have spoken to a fair amount of women that were traumatized at a younger ages by sexual experiences from certain races that they will never give a person from that race a chance again. Women are very sensual creatures unlike us men. We just want to see what's the biggest thing we can fit in a girls hole lol.

Good posts! What was your girth back then DLD?

Idk, it's been a very long time since I fucked anyone else than my gf. I was 7,2 NBPEL and 5,5" in girth when I began PE. So that was already a decent size and she always orgasmed. Now I'm at 8 NBPEL and 6,1 in girth and lengthwise there's a certain position which we can't practice anymore: missionary with her legs up which kind of sucks because earlier she grabbed my balls during intercourse in that position which was very hot and made me cum very fast.

Other than that I'm afraid anal has already become a problem: the last time we had anal I was about 5,8 or so. then there was a long break and after that we tried two months ago and it was too hurtful for her even though I wasn't at 100% erection level and her asshole was really wide due to good prep. So that's a bit of a letdown

Apart from that she still takes it like a champ. No probs with vaginal intercourse in other positions. Also she like when I hit her cervix and I seem to do that regularly. But to be honest, I found that out by accident when talking to her and after I had already gained some so I don't know for sure if I had bottomed out even before PE or had done as often as I do now. I don't feel any difference and couldn't tell if I do or don't. Idk. maybe I've always bottomed her out and simply can't tell the diff. because of this.

Also, she's a bit cagey about the whole subject. You know how many women are in this respect; she just won't admit any different feeling and tells me sometimes that I shouldn't be too obsessed about the PE thing. The most I can get out of her is a smile when I insist on conceding the obvious but well...

Zambrodom3;596077 said:

Good posts! What was your girth back then DLD?

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Same as today 6.75"

doublelongdaddy;596016 said:

That there was no way she could fit it and that she never saw anything so big. Sex was crummy because I could not fit in her and I needed to get myself semi-erect to get any penetration at all. She was a stripper too that saw many men. She worked at King of Diamonds and that is mainly a black club so I definitely got an ego boost but no real pleasure in the sex.

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I remember those fun nights lol, I had fun with those chicks, but those days are long gone now. That was a fun/tough phase of my life but I got through it.

LIGHTNING;596144 said:

I remember those fun nights lol, I had fun with those chicks, but those days are long gone now. That was a fun/tough phase of my life but I got through it.

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Tough indeed!

doublelongdaddy;596943 said:

Tough indeed!

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You helped me through it.

LIGHTNING;596946 said:

You helped me through it.

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Its all in the past now, on top bigger and better things soon! I got you Brother.

If you want to get bigger faster, you need to accept there are bigger out there and put as much work in as possible and not keep thinking you don't have too work so hard because some girls like a normal size. For me I want to get bigger and better mostly for myself for the experience. It also depends on your life goals, you may want to put more time into something else. But of course 6" is also fine because it is standard and that correlates with most women. Another important factor is experimentation with the woman and both being open to trying new sex, like BDSM or roleplay for instance. Also keep in mind yes a woman is stimulated by penis, but she can also get orgasms from other lips and hands. It's best at least to keep your penis in shape regardless of size and to also have other skills, for instance like dirty talk or massage. The more well-rounded the better.

k18;596990 said:

It's best at least to keep your penis in shape regardless of size and to also have other skills, for instance like dirty talk or massage. The more well-rounded the better.

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One of my careers was massage therapy...makes it sooooo easy to get girls lol