cladre60;728131 said:
Or does the lack of self control refer to going outside of your marriage? Do not covet thy neighbor's wife is a commandment and the 10 commandments spell out exactly what is right or wrong. If Satan was to tempt you he would try to get you to go against one of the explicitly spelled out wrongs, not an arbitrary one.

At least that's my interpretation of it.

Kind of. The evil one works in crafty ways. He does not come right out with the temptation to the sin. He gives slight, barely noticeable suggestions that lead to small noticed steps to the bigger sins. If you read in the Masturbation Confessional posts you will see the long journey that is made from innocence to failure. Satan used subtlety to cause mayhem.
 
And Brothers should also be very conscious of the 7 deadly sins. Now, understand, none of these are sins but they are acts/state of mind that if not kept in check will bring you to sin. People see lust as being wrong, that is a sili statement as without lust we could never find a compatible mate. Where does lust go from innocence to sin? When you covet. The second you covert you have crossed the line. Again, pride, nothing wrong with it, it is a positive emotion that helps us accomplish things in life and adds to our self confidence but too much pride we start to become egotistical which leads to sin. I will do one more, anger. There is nothing wrong with anger, Jesus was angry when He flipped tables over in the temple. Anger becomes sinful when we hold on to it and refuse to forgive or we seek revenge. Jesus gave us very clear and concise understandings of what is right and what is wrong. We can not add or take away from this nor can we change them through opinion or justification. And understand, these are set in place to give you a good life, not a punishment.
 
doublelongdaddy;728153 said:
I understand what you are saying and will definitely keep this in mind.

I'm in no way trying to criticize what you're trying to do and it seems like you know that. I feel that if we weren't meant to masturbate that it wouldn't be so easy to do. It's not as if it's a temptation to be avoided, it's simply a part of life. An orgasm, either during sex or masturbation, has positive physical and mental benefits. You know all this already though.

I personally feel that if you reach a point where you can't masturbate or even become aroused while alone without the aid of ���� then there's a problem. You personally have an issue with ���� and the industry and are more than entitled to feel the way you do. Plus it sounds like you do have a bit of a problem.

I really hope you can nip this in the bud and over the coming months are able to masturbate (with or without a Fleshlight or similar) without needing ���� to be aroused and to reach orgasm.

I should try to cut back on ���� when I masturbate as well. I don't masturbate too often but I enjoy pornn pretty much every time. It's difficult to maintain a full erection while pumping without visual stimulation though. My mind is already preoccupied with pulling on the Bathmate while holding it in varying positions and counting.... without watching some ���� while doing it I can't maintain good EQ. However I'm not masturbating after, just using it to assist in my work.

But because of all this discussion I'm going to try to masturbate without ���� the next time. Hopefully my wife and I are able to work around our schedules well enough that it's a few weeks before I need to ;)
 
cladre60;728160 said:
I'm in no way trying to criticize what you're trying to do and it seems like you know that. I feel that if we weren't meant to masturbate that it wouldn't be so easy to do. It's not as if it's a temptation to be avoided, it's simply a part of life. An orgasm, either during sex or masturbation, has positive physical and mental benefits. You know all this already though.

I personally feel that if you reach a point where you can't masturbate or even become aroused while alone without the aid of ���� then there's a problem. You personally have an issue with ���� and the industry and are more than entitled to feel the way you do. Plus it sounds like you do have a bit of a problem.

I really hope you can nip this in the bud and over the coming months are able to masturbate (with or without a Fleshlight or similar) without needing ���� to be aroused and to reach orgasm.

I should try to cut back on ���� when I masturbate as well. I don't masturbate too often but I enjoy pornn pretty much every time. It's difficult to maintain a full erection while pumping without visual stimulation though. My mind is already preoccupied with pulling on the Bathmate while holding it in varying positions and counting.... without watching some ���� while doing it I can't maintain good EQ. However I'm not masturbating after, just using it to assist in my work.

But because of all this discussion I'm going to try to masturbate without ���� the next time. Hopefully my wife and I are able to work around our schedules well enough that it's a few weeks before I need to ;)

I have little interstate in masturbation, my issue is with ����. The root problem is watching ���� not the ending result, masturbation. Of course I can masturbate without any stimuli but to me that is not fun nor does it bring me pleasure. Science?, there is no reason that a man needs to ejaculate, the body will naturally perform this function if needed. And if this does not happen I might then take steps to make it happen for health reasons (which I am even starting to doubt are true.) If you don't know, I am doing this for Jesus and no one else so my issue is with sin and nothing more.
 
doublelongdaddy;728223 said:
I have little interstate in masturbation, my issue is with ����. The root problem is watching ���� not the ending result, masturbation. Of course I can masturbate without any stimuli but to me that is not fun nor does it bring me pleasure. Science?, there is no reason that a man needs to ejaculate, the body will naturally perform this function if needed. And if this does not happen I might then take steps to make it happen for health reasons (which I am even starting to doubt are true.) If you don't know, I am doing this for Jesus and no one else so my issue is with sin and nothing more.

Okay, I was a little confused about the exact reason then. I thought it was partially due to not being able to get aroused without ����.

Now I understand clearly. You've accomplished other goals that you've set for yourself so with the right mindset and determination you'll get this eventually. I doubt I can help in any way but I'm proud of anyone who sets a goal for the right reasons and makes it to (and past) the finish line.
 
doublelongdaddy;728151 said:
Oh my goodness no! Sex with your wife is a beautiful thing that should be done as often as possible! This is strictly a NoFap/���� challenge.

yeah I think I will get in on this, I have noticed now, that I am usually semi erect or close to it in the after noon, now that I have started sleeping naked.
 
“One great inconvenience in reading the Scriptures, is our own vain curiosity. We lose much of the benefit which might otherwise be gathered from them, by pretending to nice disquisitions of difficult points, and labouring to bring to the standard of our own imperfect reason what we should be content to receive with the simplicity of a humble obedience, and place to the account of divine faith. If you would read them, and profit by that reading, you must do it with a submissive and humble, a sincere and teachable, disposition of mind; and account it a greater excellence to believe what God hath said, than to affect the reputation of learning, by singularity of opinions, and a bold attempt to bring down all He says to your own comprehension.”


-Thomas Kempis
 
Whatever is going on, I wish you the best of strength DLD!
90 days or three months is a very strong goal, but as you wrote, it can take that amount of time for the body and mind to "reset."
And I like to concur with that fact; many changes just don't come over night. "Rome wasn't built in a day." A bit of a boring quote, but as I don't know the Bible very well and don't want to do any cherry picking, at least in a general sense, I quote something easier.

Stay strong Brother, don't stray!
 
7 days down and I needed a release. Prayed for forgives, Will give extra alms tomorrow and talk with my Spiritual Advisor. No real reason I can think of, I joined the relief. Start all over!<script id="tickcounter-sdk" src="//www.tickcounter.com/static/js/loader.js"></script><script>(function(d, s, id) { var js, pjs = d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0]; if (d.getElementById(id)) return; js = d.createElement(s); js.id = id; js.src = "//www.tickcounter.com/static/js/loader.js"; pjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js, pjs); }(document, "script", "tickcounter-sdk"));</script><script type="text/javascript">
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doublelongdaddy;728684 said:
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Starting all over,due to the fact that you knocked one off today, i have to jerk it everyday before my stretching session....
 
LONGERDICK7+;728689 said:
Starting all over,due to the fact that you knocked one off today, i have to jerk it everyday before my stretching session....

Yeah I did mess up but I am kind of lost to why. I did not have any lustful feelings during the day at all, the day was actually very nice. I went to dinner with my family for Easter. I did a lot of praying. I spent time with my Grandbabbies and Son which was awesome. There is nothing to count for this but perhaps a natural cycle that comes after 7-14 days. I really wish I would have nocturnal ejaculation but this does not happen. It was almost as I was very hungry, I went to get something to eat and I went to sleep. It was almost mechanical. None the less I still fell so it is back to day 1. I think I was also becoming overwhelmed with the 90 days. I think I will change the thread to 30 days, making it more attainable and realistic.

The Christian perspective; I realize that God loves me very much and that He knows I am doing my best to curb this habit I have had my whole life. I do not doubt the forgiveness I have been given and I know that Christ has already has forgotten the sin. I am now forgiving myself and in doing so I would like to use this for good and not guilt. A verse that comes to mind is

“For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it” St. Paul

This is so close to the truth I am trying to explain!
 
yep30 days sounds more realistic and attainable than 90 i have been doing the same whit my exercises i have to measure evrymonth even when gains wont show the way i want to...

God loves us all and he knows about our future toughts dont you think..You will deal whit that permanently lust,dirty toughts,sinful situations etc theyll always show.keeping masturbation at bay..Will be a really hard challenge..

Changing habits is not that easy,but you are discilined,stubborn guy..
 
DLD are you in a sexual relationship at the moment? I'm assuming no because it's much easier to abstain from masturbation when you're having sex regularly but I hate assuming things.
 
cladre60;728748 said:
DLD are you in a sexual relationship at the moment? I'm assuming no because it's much easier to abstain from masturbation when you're having sex regularly but I hate assuming things.

Thats what i need nowadays i have been choking the chicken almost everyday (using ����)as a visual stimulation haha
 
cladre60;728748 said:
DLD are you in a sexual relationship at the moment? I'm assuming no because it's much easier to abstain from masturbation when you're having sex regularly but I hate assuming things.

I am celibate and have no woman. This is the life I have chosen but it is not for everyone.
 
LONGERDICK7+;728749 said:
Thats what i need nowadays i have been choking the chicken almost everyday (using ����)as a visual stimulation haha

For those who can't do this they should find a good woman and get married! And, if you are married, I hope to goodness you do not masturbate unless it is with your wife.
 
doublelongdaddy;728751 said:
I am celibate and have no woman. This is the life I have chosen but it is not for everyone.

I've been celibate and not by choice at times. One time I was utterly depressed and realized that every 7-10 days I needed a release. I was also much younger, 30 at the time, and I think my hormones were much higher as my sex drive was still really strong leading up to that.

It really isn't a life for everyone. If you are meant to be with someone she will come along in a way that you can't ignore it. As in God won't put her there, he'll trip you with a hand on the back of your neck to slam your face into her to get the point across (figuratively speaking, of course). Don't ignore it if it happens. We wouldn't be such a socially driven species if God intended for us to be alone.
 
cladre60;728754 said:
I've been celibate and not by choice at times. One time I was utterly depressed and realized that every 7-10 days I needed a release. I was also much younger, 30 at the time, and I think my hormones were much higher as my sex drive was still really strong leading up to that.

It really isn't a life for everyone. If you are meant to be with someone she will come along in a way that you can't ignore it. As in God won't put her there, he'll trip you with a hand on the back of your neck to slam your face into her to get the point across (figuratively speaking, of course). Don't ignore it if it happens. We wouldn't be such a socially driven species if God intended for us to be alone.

yep Shell show up :)
 
LONGERDICK7+;728776 said:
yep Shell show up :)

With over 6 billion people on the planet there's someone for everyone. The ironic part is you usually find who you're supposed to be with when you aren't looking.
 
cladre60;728783 said:
With over 6 billion people on the planet there's someone for everyone. The ironic part is you usually find who you're supposed to be with when you aren't looking.

MMM she saw me already but i didnt see her maybe next time haha
 
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