LONGERDICK7+;727919 said:day after day keeping your hands away from your p.lol
Big Schwanz Acht;727924 said:payment received, lol
now can we get-on as men and jack-off whenever the spirit moves us?
Big Schwanz Acht;727956 said:well...if you're dead-set against masturbating, Mother Nature will eventually provide you with some relief but I don't believe relying on Nocturnal Emissions as a way to mitigate the 'build-up' will work. Too sporadic and capricious for it to be of any consistent use. So we're left with either a GF or surrogate of some kind...are you against having an FWB?
Fighting what Nature has designed us for is a recipe for failure, finding ways to physically/emotionally/morally come to terms with whatever 'alternative' means for ejaculation would be the next/logical step(s). Pretty simple really, it's just getting your brain to accept that our primary directive is to procreate and all functions are created to support this...the trouble starts when you try to deny what you've been made to do.
We definitely have different prisms, but I believe we spiritually agree on many levels...it just pains me to see this type of struggle when you could be utilizing those energies elsewhere.
Whatever you decide and whichever path you choose, I 100% support and love you.
LONGERDICK7+;727960 said:Wonder if Jesus or his apostles masturbate or had sex once they started following Jesus..
Big Schwanz Acht;727962 said:Disassociating masturbation from �naked people movies� is a tough one. Masturbating without objectifying is also difficult, if not impossible. Masturbation and lust seem to go hand-in-hand and when you're 'lusting' it seems that nothing else matters...the 'prime-directive' is planting your seed at whatever cost at that point. I couldn't imagine being able to 'finish' while thinking about sunsets and rainbows, but I've definitely been able to by using my imagination and focusing on how good it feels vs. what I'm actually doing to another human being.
I think we grew-up in the same era where finding a Playboy, (or Penthouse if we were really lucky) was our 1st experience with ourselves. I think we're very fortunate that we didn't have the prevalence of �naked people movies� when we were young, cuz it's rewiring the brains of this generations men.
doublelongdaddy;728046 said:Most of the disciples were married so they did have sexual relations. Masturbation is a tough thing to know as it is only mentioned once, in very loose terms in the old testament. I think if God truly thought masturbation was wrong He would have made mention of this, but He did not. Now, I do not want anyone to take away the belief that if the Bible does not say it is wrong than it is not wrong, that is not the point here. We all have a conscious and it is in place so we make health and good choices based on our beliefs and what we feel to be right or wrong for ourselves. So the Bible is not an all inclusive book of rules, it gives definitive commandments but beside that the laws of the Old Testament are no longer valid in the New Testament since Jesus came in the Flesh. Coveting, adultery, homosexuality, sodomy and a slew of other rules/laws around sexual conduct but no one word against masturbation, I truly do not think it would have been left out if it were sinful. The problem with me and masturbation is the �naked people movies�, not the masturbation but I see not point in masturbation with the stimuli. So my addition is not so much that of masturbation but more of looking at lewd material.
doublelongdaddy;727959 said:I do not think that masturbation is wrong in any way but for me I find it hard without �naked people movies� (pretty hardcore) so I see the evil in the material I view than the act itself. Now I could masturbate without out it but I really do not get the pleasure so much from the masturbation as I do the �naked people movies�. So for me it seems pointless to masturbate. Maybe I need to become better with masturbation without lust, which is difficult. If I could manage to do this every few weeks (where I slip up) it would not be a total failure since I see the �naked people movies� as the evil in this. So it is difficult to separate the two. I know what you are saying is true, I know God made us this way and I do appreciate it. My conscious follows the Gospels very closely. I do not believe in religion at all, I am (at best) an Apostolistic Christian, but even more dedicated to following God's word and not man's. So for me the sin (for everyones knowledge the word sin means missing the target [mostly in archery]) is the �naked people movies� in all its forms. The sin, or miss, is when I allow myself to slide into the �naked people movies� itself. I hope that helps you understand a bit better.
PS, nocturnal emissions do not happen with me in these wet dreams so when I was in the shower early last night my penis felt very weak and I thought to myself "use it or lose it" I completely forgot about this until now. My thoughts were if I am not emitting I may be causing prostate issues. Justification?
bandit2010;728096 said:hell I havent masturbated in prob 45 days, so does having sex with your spouse count against it, if not hell I may even get in on this.
cladre60;728128 said:I know if I get to day 7 without an orgasm my brain is preoccupied with sex almost constantly. By day 10 I am physically uncomfortable as if my prostate is saying "hey asshole, I'm full! Empty me!" I try not to go that long ever without sex or masturbation but it does happen occasionally. My body is telling my mind something needs to be taken care of. It's the same as if I need to pee. Are you going to try to not pee for 2 days?
Masturbation in itself is not wrong. Like I said earlier though if you can't without �naked people movies� at all then you probably need a break. If you aren't in a sexual relationship you will eventually need to masturbate if for nothing more than to empty your prostate.
You may need to force yourself to just go 2 or 3 weeks AND stop doing kegels while doing it. When you do masturbate it'll be easier to reach orgasm without �naked people movies�. Then reset the clock and go a few more weeks, this time only stopping kegels during the final week. A few cycles of this should help reboot your brain into being able to masturbate simply for the pleasure of it.
If you feel 90 days is still necessary then go for it. Maybe it's just a 90 day plan to rewire your brain to not need �naked people movies� because it seems like that's what you're going for. I hope it works out for you.