I want to set some goals, as I have with my weekly workout. My current routine is newbie stretches twice a day with basic girth in the evening everyday (DLD routine). I am currently using the Bathmate every other night before my girth routine I just don't like the fluid fatness (1 time for 10 mins). And I am wearing the SG for a couple of hours in the evening, I have tried different wraps but it just gets unbearable and my head turns purple. I am going to order the TLC tugger tomorrow. Anyway what should I expect for my short term and long term goals. I am 32 years old. I am currently 6x5 (6.5 x 5 when absolutely hard as I can possible be). My goal would be 8.5 x 6ish. But I need to set a goal with several steps which I can keep up with and log. This is the only way I can gets this accomplished. So guys giv e me your opinions. What should I expect. Also what supplements help with ligament growth and recovery?