Power Jelq

http://www.jelqdevice.com

I remember a while back someone posting links to a site of where you could buy these for like $10 if that. I believe it was some kind of tool used for holding cans or something. Any information would be appreciated. :D

-ItsElectric

Yes, they are called jar lifters, you can fin them within canning supplies or other kitchen stuff, but not everywhere. a google search will give you various options.

Then, get some pipe insulation and make your own rollers.

I actually bought the PJ a few years ago, with extra rollers. My backpack with it inside was stolen, but I still had the extra rollers at home. Bought a Jar lifter instead, and it's exactly the same. I wish I knew before.

Anyway, I like it, it's easy to use and can come in handy if you have no time for a full routine.

Chi said:

Yes, they are called jar lifters, you can fin them within canning supplies or other kitchen stuff, but not everywhere. a google search will give you various options.

Then, get some pipe insulation and make your own rollers.

I actually bought the PJ a few years ago, with extra rollers. My backpack with it inside was stolen, but I still had the extra rollers at home. Bought a Jar lifter instead, and it's exactly the same. I wish I knew before.

Anyway, I like it, it's easy to use and can come in handy if you have no time for a full routine.

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Is that what the rollers are made out of? Pipe insulation?

-ItsElectric

CHI what did you think of the PJ? Did you think the jar lifter was as good?

I've heard mixed things about this, but I think it could be useful if your hands tend to get tired. One of the guys over at T's place pumped and used a power jelq between sets and said it was a great routine and extremely effective.

millionman said:

CHI what did you think of the PJ? Did you think the jar lifter was as good?

I've heard mixed things about this, but I think it could be useful if your hands tend to get tired. One of the guys over at T's place pumped and used a power jelq between sets and said it was a great routine and extremely effective.

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That's exactly what I was going to use it for, whenever I order my pump that is. I've already ordered a jar lifter for like $10 total, so it shouldn't be too bad.

-ItsElectric

What pump are you getting?

millionman said:

What pump are you getting?

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http://www.lapdist.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?

The deluxe package.

-ItsElectric

The rollers I have are from 2 years ago. They say they have some "new" rollers but I doubt it. And yes, I'd say they are exactly the same or very similar to pipe insulation.

And I don't think the jar lifter is as good as the PJ. I KNOW it's EXACTLY the SAME.

I've been pumping almost exclusively for 2 months now with no permanent gains. I got a kaplan pump from e-bay, but your choice is much better. I would have bought that if I had the money at the time.

Pumping + PJ (or jelqing) seems good. RED and others reccomend this and I think I'll give it a try.

ITSELECTRIC, you could skip out on the DVD and get the pump and cylinder for 10-20 cheaper than the package. That's shipping and handling too, at least that's what I have heard.

ItsElectric - Goldmember bought the jelq device and used it for 8 weeks. He says it didn't do squat. Here is the link. http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19474

Chi said:

The rollers I have are from 2 years ago. They say they have some "new" rollers but I doubt it. And yes, I'd say they are exactly the same or very similar to pipe insulation.

And I don't think the jar lifter is as good as the PJ. I KNOW it's EXACTLY the SAME.

I've been pumping almost exclusively for 2 months now with no permanent gains. I got a kaplan pump from e-bay, but your choice is much better. I would have bought that if I had the money at the time.

Pumping + PJ (or jelqing) seems good. RED and others reccomend this and I think I'll give it a try.

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Excellent, I would go to �other forum� and read up on their pumping forums to find out exactly what the best ways to do it are, but I'm banned.

millionman said:

ITSELECTRIC, you could skip out on the DVD and get the pump and cylinder for 10-20 cheaper than the package. That's shipping and handling too, at least that's what I have heard.

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Yeah, even though I should be saving for a car instead of buying penis enlargement "tools" that sounds like a good idea. I don't think I really need the DVD anyways.

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ItsElectric - Goldmember bought the jelq device and used it for 8 weeks. He says it didn't do squat. Here is the link. http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19474

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Hmm, well I've already ordered a jar lifter for like $10 so at least it won't be a huge loss if it sucks. I'll still give it a shot though and if it doesn't work very well then I'll post about how much it sucks.

-ItsElectric

and if all else fails, you can start canning vegetables. LOL

Let me know how it works. Was wondering about getting one of those.

If the jarlifter is a quality piece, nice smooth 'rollers' (they don't really roll, you'll need a lotion or maybe almond oil ...) and if it doesn't seem flimsy like the 'rollers' would break ... you can get some good gains from it.

I went back to some serious 'jarring' recently like 2 to 3 times a week, along with around 5 to 6 hours a day (days that schedule makes it possible) of autoextender - and have put on like .22 inches * in the last month. Not sure if that rate of gain would be continual but it's nice to see such an explosion out of the hole.

* -- In length. Girth gains too, but I seem to keep the same ratio on my plan, one goes up with the other, so I don't really track both. (That's sort of irritating too because it sortof always looks the same until actually measuring it.) You can get a decent bencHydromaxark while really up hard using a jarlifter ... towards the end of your routine with it, jam it down bonepress and use your thumbnail to make a mark in the vinyl covering at one of the sides of the 'handle' end. Do this about once a month and it's interesting to see the marks go farther up the handle. Gives you the sense of accomplishment that you really can't tell from day-to-day.

I don't think the same effect is possible with the PJ because the cushioned rollers would be softening the obnoxious amount of force a normal jarlifter can apply.

Here's what I'm doing .... go slow and warm up to it, it's intense...

Do your warmup, whatever your warmup is, then do a second warmup with the lifter .... say 30 light lifterjelqs x 2, then 30 medium lifterjelqs x2, (30 reps is about how often you have to pause to reapply your lube) -- then go for it. The higher % erect the better (the more breakdown abuse you can throw at yourself to build back later.)

I hate to say this, but use some ���� .... it's simply too difficult to stay at 100% erection otherwise.

When you're up that hard, the lifter will deflect. That is - the metal in it will bend because of the force involved, but you're giving your dick a seriously hard time that you simply can't do with manual jelquing.

Couldn't tell you how many reps, counting bores me too much to do it ... I go for about 20 minutes. That's a lot. Build up to it.

If you pull on the rig at the rollers, they can pop out, for cleaning or whatever. Substituting the plastic rollers for some stainless rollers would be so sweet. Thought about it but haven't investigated it. I think that would be worth doing for the extra safety factor of never having to wonder if the plastic rollers could break.

Add in regular jelquing too. It might be possible that just 'jarring' could make your cross-section flatter unless augmented by standard jelquing.

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