Phallosan vs VLC tugger vs others

ThatDude512 · Jun 6, 2017

Yeah, we don't need that negativity around here. We are here to help each other, not attack one another. He will fit in nicely at some other forums that will remain nameless...

DLD · Jun 7, 2017

ThatDude512;732786 said:
Yeah, we don't need that negativity around here. We are here to help each other, not attack one another. He will fit in nicely at some other forums that will remain nameless...

That is it!

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growtime · Jun 9, 2017

ThatDude512;732614 said:
I just got a phallosan and have had the chance to wear it a couple of days, and I wanted to give my opinion on it since there is a lot of controversy over it in this thread. If you are on the longer side, yes it does have to sit on your hip, but it is not a deal breaker in my opinion. I've managed to get 10 hours a day in at max tension, and the only (slight) discomfort I've had is the base ring bite. The belt and suction bell dig into the hips a little, but are easy to adjust on the fly, and all this combined is not even close to the discomfort of being strapped into my extender at full tension. I struggle to hit four hours a day in a regular extender, and I'm almost tripling that in the phallosan. There is all the tension you could want as well, if the springs max out, you can still tighten the belt and get more. All and all I think this is a great tool and think it's really going to make a difference in my program.

Just FYI I remember the people at Phallosan saying that we'd see better results if we don't use max pull. I believe the PF gave me about 1/2 inch of my gains and I haven't used it nearly enough. I used it at 1/2 to 2/3 pull most of the time.

I once did an extended pumping session with the Bathmate Extreme, rested about 2 hours and then wore the PF. I began to get some discomfort and decided to power through it. I then got to power through some blisters for a week. Be vigilant for blisters. Once I got more careful, no problems.

ThatDude512 · Jun 9, 2017

Yeah I take it off and check every few hours to make sure I'm good to go, and that's why I use the bathmate after using the extender. I feel like that would be asking for trouble pumping before using the phallosan. I have been using extenders for about 2 1/2 years, so high tension isn't a problem for me, low tension wouldn't be very productive in my situation.

DLD · Jun 9, 2017

growtime;732879 said:
Just FYI I remember the people at Phallosan saying that we'd see better results if we don't use max pull. I believe the PF gave me about 1/2 inch of my gains and I haven't used it nearly enough. I used it at 1/2 to 2/3 pull most of the time.

I once did an extended pumping session with the Bathmate Extreme, rested about 2 hours and then wore the PF. I began to get some discomfort and decided to power through it. I then got to power through some blisters for a week. Be vigilant for blisters. Once I got more careful, no problems.

That is sort of correct on the end that passive, lighter stretching will help cement temporary gains but intensity is needed to make those gains.

ULTIM8GAINZ · Mar 7, 2018

great thread and posts. i'm currently researching the PF, the TLC tugger, DRT, and PMP as I'm looking to add an ADS to my routine soon

i'm leaning towards the tlc tugger because it is also a foreskin restoration device, which is on my to-do list in PE as well, so it seems to serve as a 2-in-1 device for both stretcher and FR, not to mention it has a wide range of accessories for all kinds of PE options

based on the feedback here PF seems to be the most comfortable ADS and all-night stretching. PMP seems to have great suction and stretch, but both quite similar.

the tlc tugger and DRT can also apparently do ADS with a strap accessory but it also has foreskin restoration feature, along with options for hanging accessories and possible manual stretching

basically the TLC and DRT look like bang for the buck. I mean they essentially do what the PF and PMP can. The only difference I can see based on the info i've gathered so far is the all-night-stretching of the PF, but then again the PF doesn't have the foreskin restoration and other PE options like the TLC or DRT

so right now TLC is my leading candidate

DLD · Mar 9, 2018

ULTIM8GAINZ;752978 said:
great thread and posts. i'm currently researching the PF, the TLC tugger, DRT, and PMP as I'm looking to add an ADS to my routine soon

i'm leaning towards the tlc tugger because it is also a foreskin restoration device, which is on my to-do list in PE as well, so it seems to serve as a 2-in-1 device for both stretcher and FR, not to mention it has a wide range of accessories for all kinds of PE options

based on the feedback here PF seems to be the most comfortable ADS and all-night stretching. PMP seems to have great suction and stretch, but both quite similar.

the tlc tugger and DRT can also apparently do ADS with a strap accessory but it also has foreskin restoration feature, along with options for hanging accessories and possible manual stretching

basically the TLC and DRT look like bang for the buck. I mean they essentially do what the PF and PMP can. The only difference I can see based on the info i've gathered so far is the all-night-stretching of the PF, but then again the PF doesn't have the foreskin restoration and other PE options like the TLC or DRT

so right now TLC is my leading candidate

Same in a passive senese but not in an active sense. There is active and passive stretching. the VLC on it's own is passive, it will help secure current gains through cementing but will not bring additional gains. The PeniMasterPro is both passive and active so it will help you gain while cementing those gains. And the PeniMasterPro and Phallosan are very much alike.

ULTIM8GAINZ · Mar 9, 2018

doublelongdaddy;753047 said:
Same in a passive senese but not in an active sense. There is active and passive stretching. the VLC on it's own is passive, it will help secure current gains through cementing but will not bring additional gains. The PeniMasterPro is both passive and active so it will help you gain while cementing those gains. And the PeniMasterPro and Phallosan are very much alike.

How is VLC not active? And by active do u mean more pulling tension? If that's the case the VLC also has a leg strap mod and also a hanger along with dozens of other options

DLD · Mar 9, 2018

ULTIM8GAINZ;753057 said:
How is VLC not active? And by active do u mean more pulling tension? If that's the case the VLC also has a leg strap mod and also a hanger along with dozens of other options

The intensity is too light to bring steady gains, it is very useable with the SizeGenetics as an attachment, but alone it is simply a passive device.

huge-girth · Jan 13, 2023

wakingdream said:
I'd like to get a suction product for length. I did a ton of research and reading on the forums, but the more I read the more undecided I am.

My main goal is to have something to grip the head of my penis, comfortably and preferably for a long time. I currently have a LengthMaster and a SizeGenetics, but I'm looking for something a little more comfortable. I can get comfortable in the LD and SG, but it can take a long time to get it right, or I'm sitting there trying to get a good wrap instead of actually doing PE.
I also enjoy manual stretching but sometimes I don't feel a strong enough pull with just my hands, or my fingers can get sore/tired. So suction sounds like a good idea to try, right?

I'm also interested in restoring my foreskin, so it'd be nice if the product I buy does that as well.

AB Silicone:
I like the look of their site and their products and price, but I've read that they don't ship sometimes, or it takes months, and they have no customer service.

VacADS from autoxtender:
Their site looks like it's from 1996, it's hard to navigate and they have a couple different versions and it's a bit confusing, and I don't see many reviews.

Phallosan:
Extremely expensive, but I'm willing to pay if it's that much more worth it. Some people say it's really comfortable, other say it's given them irritation or blisters.
Why is it so much more expensive than other suction products? Is there a modification for the Phallosan for foreskin restoration?

VLC Tugger:
This looks like it might be the best option for me, and MoS advertises it, but I still wonder why it's cheaper than the Phallosan. The biggest difference I see is the phallosan has a spring mechanism and the VLC and others are more like bungie cord. But pulling is pulling, regardless if there's springs, right?

Thanks everyone!

I will advice you focus on allowing your penis to adapt to the feel of the length master. No need for those extenders. Just wrap with 20 inches length of the thick bandage that comes with the length master. Wrap the yellow theraband over the penis and then wrap the bandage on top of it, that's all for wrapping. Your body will need to adapt to the feel and stretch of the length master. This adaptation period should be around 2 weeks to maximum 1 month for you.

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