More gains when you stretch with less force??! o_0

This is something i've been hearing, especially on other forums -- they say if you stretch at medium intensity your dick will get longer and if you stretch at maximum intensity you dick will get STRONGER and stay the same length...

I stretch with maximum intensity but lately i have not been gaining and i get that PE is experimental and i'm open to any ideas, bt stretching with medium intensity makes no sense to me. Have any of you gained by only steetching at medium intensity? How do people gain more by stretching less??

Hello!

This is something i have realized. The 3 different forums have 3 different approaches and believes. Thundersplace and PEGym is more like each other.
Matters of size is the most unique forum in my opinion. On the other forums they approach very slowly and careful and free spiritual, while mattersofsize feels very strict and hard.

It is true in PE that every individual responds differently and therefore no of the forums is the "best" when it comes to how you should apply and go with exercises.
Some responds better to harder work and more intensity. While others respond better to the "less is more" approach. I'm one of the guys that responds better
to "less is more" and that EQ is key when it comes to gains. When i went to this forum to check out as i got really interested in DLD from
watching YouTube videos i started to apply more force and work to my exercises. I must say that.. Regarding length it didn't work out at all. But it helped girth a little bit actually.
I gained girth but the EQ got worse, it's kinda weird but i have my theories.

I built my own "less is more" routine recently, and started to focus on "What is working for me?" Voila, i just recently started to gain 0,2cm length by that routine, both in NBPEL & BPEL, and EQ is starting to shine again.
Been doing it for 1 month soon.
I take ideas from both mattersofsize and the other forums to apply the correct combination for me to gain. For an example, the more force while stretching method as you talk about is a NO to me.
It doesn't work and i believe it is just counterproductive, but maybe when you are even further in your journey you can apply those methods. To me, stretching pretty "light" or medium as you called it works best for me.
Try add "time" under tension instead of pulling force.

I think DLD and Big Al is my role models when it comes to PE. Everything Big Al say seems to add so much sense to how my own body responds to PE.
And DLD is more like inspiration and he also have a lot of ideas i can borrow and apply to my own workouts.

To summary.. Try fishing information from all forums and test different methods and see what applies best to your body. Try out less force when you stretch, maybe it suits you better.
If you stretch too hard your EQ will suffer and your penis will not have enough pressure on the tunica to reach maximal size.
Instead of applying more "FORCE & pull-power" on your stretches, add more "time". If you now feel that you don't get any gains anymore.
Good EQ & Consistency is key.

Gainzzzz;705584 said:

This is something i've been hearing, especially on other forums -- they say if you stretch at medium intensity your dick will get longer and if you stretch at maximum intensity you dick will get STRONGER and stay the same length...

I stretch with maximum intensity but lately i have not been gaining and i get that PE is experimental and i'm open to any ideas, bt stretching with medium intensity makes no sense to me. Have any of you gained by only steetching at medium intensity? How do people gain more by stretching less??

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To answer you simply and honestly I will say maybe start with less force as a beginner, but it's always best to stretch with maximum intensity.

When I started i did max intensity and i gained.

I see in your signature you gained, I suggest you measure BPEL for a more accurate measurement than NBPEL since NBPEL can fluctuate because of your body fat.
If you're plateauing don't worry. What's your routine like right now and we can help modify it to help you gain.

The answer is simple, whatever other forums say do the opposite and you will gain

Seriously though, there is no evidence to this being true. Light stretching will only go to healing, not gaining. In order to make permanent gains intensity needs to be used at your maximum allowance. I have gained more than anyone I know I have always approached PE in a progressive way. I start light and over a few days bring myself to my maximum and from that point I will build. Keep this in mind when you hear people say that light training bring good gains, the Tunica is so dense that any light work will never effect it and if the Tunica is not properly stretched gains will be very minimal.


The Brotherhood started based on our way of doing modern penis enlargement. Other forums are very ancient in their approach and this is why you see so many men deflect to MOS. We have always pushed the envelope of intensity and in this we have been the world's biggest and most gainful forum on men's sexuality. There is no reason to anywhere else, you have found the true place to make the fastest and safest gains.

So are you gains only fom light stretching for long periods of time? I get very strong erections (have no poblem cumming 2/3 times and getting hard again) and i'm stretching about 1 hour a day, only thing is i haven't gained except foe noob gains

kyomoto;705595 said:

To answer you simply and honestly I will say maybe start with less force as a beginner, but it's always best to stretch with maximum intensity.

When I started i did max intensity and i gained.

I see in your signature you gained, I suggest you measure BPEL for a more accurate measurement than NBPEL since NBPEL can fluctuate because of your body fat.
If you're plateauing don't worry. What's your routine like right now and we can help modify it to help you gain.

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I do 15m sets adding up to 45 or 90 minutes a day. Each set i do a couple mins of bundles then (max intensity) DLD behind the cheeks, blue whale mother of stretches, mandingos, rotaries etc until 15 mins is up. Listen I made more han 1cm gain in less han a month but nothing in the previous two months. I also use the VLC tugger lightly wih a strap for at least 45 mins daily

doublelongdaddy;705603 said:

The answer is simple, whatever other forums say do the opposite and you will gain

Seriously though, there is no evidence to this being true. Light stretching will only go to healing, not gaining. In order to make permanent gains intensity needs to be used at your maximum allowance. I have gained more than anyone I know I have always approached PE in a progressive way. I start light and over a few days bring myself to my maximum and from that point I will build. Keep this in mind when you hear people say that light training bring good gains, the Tunica is so dense that any light work will never effect it and if the Tunica is not properly stretched gains will be very minimal.


The Brotherhood started based on our way of doing modern penis enlargement. Other forums are very ancient in their approach and this is why you see so many men deflect to MOS. We have always pushed the envelope of intensity and in this we have been the world's biggest and most gainful forum on men's sexuality. There is no reason to anywhere else, you have found the true place to make the fastest and safest gains.

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Okay i'm gonna keep stretching at max intensity and measure in a couple months. Do you know anything about the penis getting 'stronger' if you use max intensity? You think i just have to power through?

Gainzzzz;705610 said:

I do 15m sets adding up to 45 or 90 minutes a day. Each set i do a couple mins of bundles then (max intensity) DLD behind the cheeks, blue whale mother of stretches, mandingos, rotaries etc until 15 mins is up. Listen I made more han 1cm gain in less han a month but nothing in the previous two months. I also use the VLC tugger lightly wih a strap for at least 45 mins daily

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Says you started 4 months ago. I think you're doing too much intense exercises to be on your 4th month. As a beginner I essentially did 8 months of SRT or Newbie Routine

kyomoto;705612 said:

Says you started 4 months ago. I think you're doing too much intense exercises to be on your 4th month. As a beginner I essentially did 8 months of SRT or Newbie Routine

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Thanks for you advice bro, and habban's. Honestly i feel like i'm not training enough so it's going to be difficult training less Lol, i'm waiting on some more wisdom from DLD. I measueed my Bone Pressed Flacid Stretched right now and it's 7.6 inches (19.4cm). I'll measure again in a couple weeks. Can't believe you gained a solid two inches

Gainzzzz;705609 said:

So are you gains only fom light stretching for long periods of time? I get very strong erections (have no poblem cumming 2/3 times and getting hard again) and i'm stretching about 1 hour a day, only thing is i haven't gained except foe noob gains

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My penis works in a way that it needs very little intensity and time to grow.
An example is that i only need 50-100 jelq reps, and 1 set of basic stretching, and perhaps add 1 more stretch for variation.
Not much effort is needed.
You have to be careful to mold my penis, or else it breaks, because it is so easy to mold.

To your situation: If you train hard and still have excellent EQ and you don't gain. It feels like your penis is immune if you ask me.
I have no experience with that kind of penis. Maybe time for deconditioning break and start back with lower intensity and add intensity
more slower so you don't plateu yourself too fast.
The only thing i have noticed when i ramp up the intensity and do plenty of work i get worse EQ.

I wonder if 1week ON, 1week OFF would be the best approach for a penis like yours? Just a random thought.
I strongly believe you can categorise penises to find a certain work model for best results.
Your type of penis maybe answers best to good workload, but also plateaus very fast. So maybe 1week of intensive training
while then taking 1week rest from everything to go back at it the next week again. Maybe that could be a cool thing to try?
I know of people that do similar things, this to always make sure they decondition their penis to make room for more growth.
For how long you train and take a break is where you have to find your own "sweet spot" to gain size. 1week ON 1week off was an example.
Because stretching your penis for 1 hour and don't make any gains but still EQ is 10/10 doesn't sound right x)
It just sounds like your penis is unbreakable and hard to mold, stubborn penis!

Because there is scenarios where people do too much and their EQ suffers, so they have to do lower workload so their EQ gets
better and the gains start coming.
There also are people that have strong EQ when they exercise, but never grow. This means that they have to do MORE. Sounds like you? They are not doing enough.
But 1 hour of stretcing? come on? This means that your penis needs 1h 30minutes of stretching to grow again? Do you have time for that?
Try the deconditioning routine and see what happens. If it doesn't work, go back to 1hour sessions, but add some more and maybe use an
extender? Length master? Your penis maybe need tools to reach the gaining zone again.

Just trying to help you to think wide, so you maybe can find out how to gain again!

SRT is a workmodel for an example, but maybe not ALL penises fall in to that category.
The first site i went on was PEGym where they are very careful and go slow (nothing for your penis). I was just lucky i got to the right place for my own penis sake.
I couldn't even do full JP90 in the beginning, it was so intense and my penis was so sensitive in the beginning!
When i first started with my bathmate my penis got sore & red dots from 2 MINUTES!
SRT workmodel maybe is PERFECT for some penises, but i don't think it falls in to the category of every damn penis.
I'm not trying to convince you that any other site is better, i think mattersofsize is the correct site for your penis.

Gainzzzz;705677 said:

Thanks for you advice bro, and habban's. Honestly i feel like i'm not training enough so it's going to be difficult training less Lol, i'm waiting on some more wisdom from DLD. I measueed my Bone Pressed Flacid Stretched right now and it's 7.6 inches (19.4cm). I'll measure again in a couple weeks. Can't believe you gained a solid two inches

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It's weird we know but training with the SRT or Newbie Routine will get you gains and make sure to have adequate rest days. Resting is very important, its suggested 1 on 1 off. Yes DLD will give you more insight.

I gained 2 " BPEL in 11 months by doing essentially what is Newbie Routine for 6 months and slowly adding new exercises or bumping up the time for each stretch. Slow progression is where it's at.

Seriously,

Big Al, JonPop and DLD will be remembered as legends in the history of PE and the Internet.

GottaGetAGrip;705791 said:

Seriously,

Big Al, JonPop and DLD will be remembered as legends in the history of PE and the Internet.

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Pretty much, started off with JonPop's routine which is essentially the same as DLD's

Does anyone know anything about the fallosan forte?? It looks pricey as hell lol but I really think I need an ADS i can wear with solid intensity for hours a day to get me gaining again. The VLC can't be worn for too long. Many thanks

Gainzzzz;705996 said:

Does anyone know anything about the fallosan forte?? It looks pricey as hell lol but I really think I need an ADS i can wear with solid intensity for hours a day to get me gaining again. The VLC can't be worn for too long. Many thanks

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The Phallosan is pricey but you do get your money's worth. Aside from it being an excellent stretcher it allows for lengthly sessions, you can actually wear it to bed and stretch while you sleep. For that reason alone it is so valuable because nothing else can be safely worn to bed that is actively stretching you.

doublelongdaddy;706339 said:

The Phallosan is pricey but you do get your money's worth. Aside from it being an excellent stretcher it allows for lengthly sessions, you can actually wear it to bed and stretch while you sleep. For that reason alone it is so valuable because nothing else can be safely worn to bed that is actively stretching you.

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phallosan vs SG? for flaccid gains

doublelongdaddy;706339 said:

The Phallosan is pricey but you do get your money's worth. Aside from it being an excellent stretcher it allows for lengthly sessions, you can actually wear it to bed and stretch while you sleep. For that reason alone it is so valuable because nothing else can be safely worn to bed that is actively stretching you.

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Ok thanks I'm stating SRT and to wear an ace wrap as much as i can but is there a real difference with the phallosan? Can you really stretch at a medium/strong intensity for 7-8 hours without damage?!?

Gainzzzz said:

This is something i've been hearing, especially on other forums -- they say if you stretch at medium intensity your dick will get longer and if you stretch at maximum intensity you dick will get STRONGER and stay the same length...

I stretch with maximum intensity but lately i have not been gaining and i get that PE is experimental and i'm open to any ideas, bt stretching with medium intensity makes no sense to me. Have any of you gained by only steetching at medium intensity? How do people gain more by stretching less??

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You want to stretch with enough force but not to the point of pains. If you are feeling pains while you stretch, I mean sharp pains, you are doing it wrongly.

huge-girth said:

You want to stretch with enough force but not to the point of pains. If you are feeling pains while you stretch, I mean sharp pains, you are doing it wrongly.

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Intensity is needed but never to the point of pain

DLD said:

Intensity is needed but never to the point of pain

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I always tell people this.