No, I had pumped for years to enjoy the "temporary" gains you get from pumping.
Even temporary pumps can last 12hrs, so you can go around all day like that.
What I meant was until I tried a larger cylinder, in this case a 3" diameter I never had permanent gains.
Which is why I'd like to try a 4" if I can find one.
I'd like the size I am fully pumped (completely busting at the seams of the cylinder at 3") to be my natural state which I believe I can achieve using a larger tube for more growth/girth.
Thing is, what you call permanent is really all in your state of mind.
If you pumped the night before...wake up (still in a pumped up state) then pump again adding to that...as long as you never stop, you'd have "permenent" gains.
I pump ever day, so I'm always pumped up.
I did go on a vacation with the wife & had miss 3 days straight of pumping, but only saw minimal decrease in size, which is why I know I have actually gained real permenent growth.
You have to treat it like working out, if you want to maintain your physique you have to pump up your muscles.
I love the way my pumped up member looks & feels, so just like my muscles I maintain it.
My wife occasionally complains about her mouth getting sore or afraid her jaw might lock while sucking it, but I told her to do mouth stretching exercises. LOL