Pharaoh

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Hey guys!
I have a problem with my girlfriend. We're together for about half a year and we already had sex. We're living apart, so it happens we couldn't see each other for a couple of months. I'm about to see her again and now she told me that she considers pre-marital sex as wrong and doesn't want us to do it anymore...
Listen, I really love this girl so I kind of promised to keep my hands off her. But I consider sex a very important part of every relationship and I think it's totally stupid to suppress it.
It happens that I'm an atheist while she's christian. Can you guys give me some arguments to convince her that pre-marital sex isn't a sin???
 
she's ignorrant. tell her to think for herself rather than have a book tell her what to do.


(this doesn't mean im baggin religion or god or etc blar blar)

hold on, now im gonna go on a rant.

if a bible tells us what to do, and a science book tells us what to think, then there is absolutly nothing for us to achieve in our life.


so, think for yourself.
 
Respect her morals and values. It's the best thing you can do for her. It's not all about sex. There's more to life. :)

It's not about a book, it's about her morals and her values. She is not ignorant, actually she is making an intelligent decision.
 
Shit I've been in the exact same situation. The relationship lasted a year longer but slowly declined after she had her religious moment. Not only was there no sex, but no touching, seeing each other naked, even making out kind of disappeared after a while. I really did love her too but I couldn't handle what seemed like just being friends who kissed occasionally. Then she got upset when I broke up with her even tho she knew she was distancing herself from me. AHHHHHH women... We also had different views on religion. She was Christian and I could care less because I don't believe in the supernatural so we argued about that a lot.
 
if a bible tells us what to do, and a science book tells us what to think, then there is absolutly nothing for us to achieve in our life.


so, think for yourself.
Science tells us the way things are (gravity etc). Go jump off a building c'mon! Don't let science tell you what to think, gravity is a farce!

Honestly. The Bible tells you the right/moral way to live, science tells you the way the universe and the things inside it are, but you always have opinion.
 
thanx guys.
thing is I'll visit her for some weeks and of course we'll share a bed... Can you imagine how hard that'll be???
I'm afraid that the frustration will make us have fights and stuff.
thing is if I tell her that a relationship without sex doesn't make sense to me (call it a friendship then), she'll be thinking I'm only out for sex...
Aren't there any christians out there who can give me some bible quotes or whatever? <:(
 
Pharaoh said:
...now she told me that she considers pre-marital sex as wrong and doesn't want us to do it anymore...

It seems like if you guys were having sex before, then apart, then not having sex now, something must have convinced her that what she was doing was wrong. Was she talking to someone about the sex? Also how frequently were you having sex before and did she seem comfortable with it?
 
Cybershot said:
It seems like if you guys were having sex before, then apart, then not having sex now, something must have convinced her that what she was doing was wrong. Was she talking to someone about the sex? Also how frequently were you having sex before and did she seem comfortable with it?

well, I know she joined a new bible group or whatever. so it might be that she changed her mind due to discussions with them. Anyway, I hope I can change her mind when we finally meet. Maybe the passion will overcome her... LMAO
We had sex frequently, but sometimes she told me that she felt guilty.
 
She sounds kinda brainwashed by Jehovas witnesses.
Get her a some book that is about the religion sex and she become obsessed with that instead. :D
 
Do anal with her. Seriously. When Taylor Rain was younger and still a virgin she was afraid to have sex cause she thought it would be wrong, I think her parents were religious, so her boyfriend "taught" her that anal sex wasn't losing her virginity and they did it.
 
Jason1 said:
Do anal with her. Seriously. When Taylor Rain was younger and still a virgin she was afraid to have sex cause she thought it would be wrong, I think her parents were religious, so her boyfriend "taught" her that anal sex wasn't losing her virginity and they did it.

LOL she ain't a ���� star and she's not a virgin anymore. but it might become my last resort...
 
This happened to my girlfriend and I. Do you love her? I did. I said ok, as hard as it's going to be for me I'm willing to wait for you. Whoever said that you need to respect her is absolutely right. Don't try to change her mind overtly.

Now, with that being said - you CAN break her of this without looking like you are trying to. You know her better than anyone. Appeal to what turns her on without making it look like you are begging for sex. Touch her as sexually and sensualy as possibly without going for the tits or between the legs. Sure, get close. Tell her all the things she does that turn you on. She DOES want to turn you on, whether or not she thinks she wants to have sex with you. Be sweet, kind, understanding, and sexy as fuck. Don't let her see you get discouraged if it doesn't work automatically. The worst thing you can do is look desperate and like you are trying to beg for it.
 
Pharaoh said:
It happens that I'm an atheist while she's christian. Can you guys give me some arguments to convince her that pre-marital sex isn't a sin???

And guy, if I didn't make it crystal clear DO NOT TRY TO CONVINCE HER OTHERWISE. Do not.
 
You gotta know what you wan't in life. I think you should sit down, think about it and then decide.
 
I'm not going to offer my religious views, if you're interested in that you can read other threads I've posted (don't want to start any flaming or anything :D).

But, one thing to consider is this: if you convince her to have sex with you, after the fact she will feel like you made her compromise her beliefs. That isn't a good position to be in. Since she is taking such a stand about this issue (which is a very difficult thing to do, especially if it's completely contrary to what she formerly believed), it's obviously very important to her, and what you need to do is support her 100%. Trying to change her morals isn't a good position to put yourself in, because it will eventually make her resent you (coming from someone who has been in her shoes).
 
There are alot of things to think about when this situation comes up.

1) You cant change a person if they truly believe in something.

2) Even if you do change them, that means that they truly didnt believe in what they thought they did. Unfortunately in this situation it will make you out to be the bad guy and she wont feel respected and then not respect you.
Lack of respect equals end of relationship.

3) Is it possible she might be using this to push you away? She must know of your atheist views, therefore using religion ideas to distance herself from you.

All of these are things to think about. Alot of times religious beliefs push people apart, instead of pulling people together. It is unfotunate but like mentioned before dont try to change her views. If you love her you have only a couple of options left.

1 Let this pass. As fast as it came it may leave just as fast.
2 Wait by her side until you get married.
3 Or end the relationship.

Good luck man...
 
wow!
thanx a lot for all of your advise! I'm stunned how much you guys are trying to help me.

First of all, I love this girl like crazy. That's the reason why I'm together with her even though we hardly see each other. I think she's the right one, so I wouldn't leave her for such a reason.
what is different from the situation some of you have been in: we already had sex! so it will be incredibly hard to stay cool. I know I'll get frustrated. I just have to think of the smell of her punani and I get crazy... :O

anyway, this is a Penis Enlargement-forum as well: I started Penis Enlargement in the meantime and I'm just dying to find out if she'll realize my gains... guess y'all are feeling me...


jakb said:
3) Is it possible she might be using this to push you away? She must know of your atheist views, therefore using religion ideas to distance herself from you.
no way, she's just told me that I'm the perfect man for her.

jakb said:
If you love her you have only a couple of options left.

1 Let this pass. As fast as it came it may leave just as fast.
2 Wait by her side until you get married.
3 Or end the relationship.

Good luck man...

Let's say no 2 then :)
 
AlloyCG said:
Now, with that being said - you CAN break her of this without looking like you are trying to. You know her better than anyone. Appeal to what turns her on without making it look like you are begging for sex. Touch her as sexually and sensualy as possibly without going for the tits or between the legs. Sure, get close. Tell her all the things she does that turn you on. She DOES want to turn you on, whether or not she thinks she wants to have sex with you. Be sweet, kind, understanding, and sexy as fuck. Don't let her see you get discouraged if it doesn't work automatically. The worst thing you can do is look desperate and like you are trying to beg for it.

Alright, I agree it won't make sense to change her mind. But I'll definately try this out... :cool:
 
bud if she is everything you say she is to you, keep this in mind. Good things come to those who wait. It is a fact bro 90% of all the christian and non-religious women I have met that have waited till after marriage are usually sex-aholics. plus if you press the issue you will be pushing her away. And think if getting some booty is worth losing this girl you say you love. weigh it carefully because if you press it, and she is serious about her position you will lose her.
 
Stuff_ said:
Respect her morals and values. It's the best thing you can do for her. It's not all about sex. There's more to life. :)

It's not about a book, it's about her morals and her values. She is not ignorant, actually she is making an intelligent decision.

it's not her morals, its the bible's morals.
 
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