flyball;433279 said:
Hey man i just joined today cause ive been curious about the streching techniques im mean ive been pulling on it my whole life and that wasnt working. So ive been mainly reading and learning but this i think i can help with cause i got no problem getn to know people and especialy chicks. I call it the f.o.r.m. method and it basically give you a structure to your game if you have a difficult time breaking the ice or approuching women. simply introduce yourself get thier name lets say Candy it also helps you remember thier name. So the F. is for family "So Candy are u originally from here, Is your Family from here brothers,sisters," ok O. occupation Candy what do you do for living, do you enjoy that? R. Recreation "Candy what do you like to do for fun, whens the last time you actually did that?" and the last one the M. Message this is where depending on your goal and of course Candys responses up to this point, what type of message you want to give also dont rush through give her time to answer and at least act like your listening to what she is saying. so if all went well my message might be well im really glad i ran into tonight cause i love watching zoo animals fuck i was planning on a trip to the zoo this weekend and blah blah... anyway hope you can get some use out of it, i have.
Good stuff. This is very similar to a formula from sales. And frankly-approaching women is indeed like selling something via door to door or cold calling-you are approaching a stranger out of the blue and trying to sell them something-in this case, yourself.
On that note I wanted to expand on what flyball said. Except the correct formula (IMO) is F.O.R.D. F is for family, O is for occupation, R is for recreation, and D is really the most important and the one Flyball is missing: Dreams. This one is where you're transitioning from shallow to deep questions and where you can really capture a woman's attention. And don't try to appear to be listening, you MUST, MUST, MUST train yourself to actually listen-people, including women can tell the difference. Most men are not that good at listening in these situations, so it's a good way to set yourself apart.
A differentiation strategy (again notice sales/business principles apply to women almost perfectly!) is crucial. This is great-you don't have to have the best logo (looks), you simply need to convince the customer (woman) that you offer her something the competitors (other men) do not. This could be humor, it could be something you relate to her on that is pretty unique about her (thus the FORD questions) and it could be as simple as LISTENING to her instead of thinking about what her pussy tastes like while she's talking to you.
No question that we are seeing a theme here: PRACTICE. And I really think that is the answer to the O.P.s question in one word. Someone basically said "wait for them to come to you, if they don't, fuck em" and I do disagree with that. the squeaky wheel gets the pussy, the proactive man gets laid. The introvert who hopes and waits but does nothing... well, he just gets a bigger pile of regret. Tolstoy said "Unhappiness is having regrets." and he's right. So keep it that simple-do the thing that will avoid the regret.
So if you see a pretty girl-don't approach her with a goal-like to get her number, that is distracting. Nope, just come up to her and start a conversation as though you live in the moment and really have no care in the world. I do this all the time. For example (and keep in mind I'm married, but I still like to keep my game up as we're looking for a girlfriend lol), the other night I was going to get a drink and I walk up behind 2 very cute women who are both looking at their shoes-so I knew instantly they were discussing them. I butted right in and said "So you two have matching platforms, what's the occasion?" (I know a lot about shoes-not a bad trait for having a conversation with women-as most men don't know shit about shoes-see? Differentiation Strategy. One had black ones, the other had silver glittery ones. One was cuter and younger and I could immediately see she was much more open to me than the other girl. So the other girl says "Ya, but mine sparkle" the younger one didn't have a comeback, so I came to her rescue and said "Ah, but her mouth sparkles!" (she wore braces). I chatted for a while with her-approaching 2 girls is always good as they are competitive and want to be the one you take an interest in-even if she doesn't think you are cute, it tells her she is cuter than her friend.....
The younger one lit up.. and I already had her (like I could have gotten her number) , it had only been about 2 minutes into the conversation.... it's really that easy. You just have to relax, be yourself and make interesting conversation. It helps to be clever and funny and CONFIDENT. Confidence is pretty easy when you don't care... so try not to care, thus don't have a goal-just GO, just walk up and try it, just jump off the cliff and see where you land. Pretty soon you get some successes under your belt and start gaining true confidence.
But the one guy saying "don't change, let them come to you"... well, that's like if you asked for Penis Enlargement advice someone responding "Just wait, and hope it grows.... if it doesn't grow then your penis is just stupid, that's all". Hmmm is that helpful? Neither is telling you not to be proactive. It's like riding a bike-it's simple, and once you can do it... you really CAN do it, like forever after that. But if you don't put in the time to learn how to ride, you'll never learn and you're not gonna ride too many bikes....
I know what I'm talking about, I used to be very shy, I'm not now, and I bet I could pick up a girl in the bar anytime I wanted where before it would take the stars aligning and the right mix of drinks and the right set of circumstances with the right wing man.... ie the odds were very low. You make the odds, you are vegas and the house always wins. Be the house