Feel free not to debate or respond. This, however, will in no way way disuade me from voicing my opinions on the benefits of FR and the negative consequences of circumcision.
I respect your opinion, swank. You are an intelligent man, and that is obvious. You have every right to voice your feelings. I'm glad you feel that circumcision is a useless and outdated practice. You still seem to feel that it is harmless and can have no negative effects, and if that makes you feel better, you keep on feeling that way. Honest. I'm not going to argue with you anymore. It is too much like trying to argue with my teenage son. You and my son are alot alike. You're both never wrong and any evidence to the contrary of your beliefs doesn't exist, so what's the point?
The point here is to show that you can't really say what the advantages of a foreskin are from personal experience because you don't have one.
Will you believe me when I am completely restored? Probably not. This is just another tactic to allow you to cling to your beliefs. Discount all opposing evidence. Either it doesn't count because of some sili technicality in your mind (nevermind the ten months of doing it and the progress I have made) or it doesn't exist (musocal tissue? What's that? No such thing!).
This fact, when considered with your tendency to claim that the foreskin or frenulum (you have alternated your claim) is functionally 'the male clitoris' and other statements completely unsupported by biology, demonstrates that most of what you have to say about circumcision and FR is straight off the internet and most likely from anti-circumcision, pro-FR sites that are what a reasonable person would describe as heavily biased.
You believe this, swank. I think it's pretty much accepted by everyone else. You only take this stance to oppose me. Hey, whatever gets you off.
I believe that your beliefs regarding FR and circumcision are over-zealous in that you clearly do not discriminate your sources of information on either matter so long as they support your point of view. Your perspective is very much swayed to one side of things, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with other people disagreeing and expressing their opinions. In this case the we are discussing the validity of your claims because, as you always do, you have made the topical debate into discussion about yourself by complaining that any doubts about your claims are personally motivated attacks.
All valid points. I am over-zealous. Whenever I am wrong, tho, I admit it and apologize and try to listen to other viewpoints. I don't think you can say the same. You keep banging on the same old drum, which is what makes this all so tedious.
This is an open forum and need not be dominated by the opinions of one person. I find your anger and attempts to silence opposing viewpoints to be sili and childish. If you are confidentin the quality of your information and intentions, then my objections should be of no consequence. This is obviously not the case as you have tried a variety of methods to stop people from questioning your claims on an open forum. This is not titled the "only listen to Kong's ideas about FR and circumcision" forum. The benefits of FR and the negatives of circumcision are up for debate.
Bang-bang-bang that drum. Old news. Get over it. I took in all the criticism and have made an effort to be more open-minded. I have tried to be less one-sided in my recent threads. You keep this up, swank, and you're going to start looking kind of weird and pathetic.
That being said, I would label posts that are specifically insulting, profanity, escessive starting of threads, and repeated tantrums in which one threatens to leave on a regular basis in order to gather sympathy from strangers are all far more childish and 'trollish' behaviors than expressing disagreement with a person.
Is that what you think? That I start too many threads. Dude, the more threads there are here on
MOS, the better this place shows up on search engines. The DLD opinion on this is to post as much as possible. It's my job!
Your intense reactions to any challenge of your claims and subsequent unwillingness to debate them, instead favoring long, emotionally charged threads which you often divert away from the actual topic,show that you have a strong emotional stake in not only controlling the content of the forum, but that you are intensely threatened by the prospect of your claims not being taken seriously.
Uh...duh. I believe in the benefits of FR. Everyone has something they believe in, whether it is anti-smoking, vegetarianism, staying healthy or having a giant dick. What's your point?
Also, though you have repeatedly suggested insecurity on the part of those questioning you, I think anybody can see that is not the case. You are correct that masculinity and sexuality is far more than just the penis - though one might find this hard to believe if they read your 'psuedo-male' thread - but this begs the question as to why you feel that the foreskin and issues related to the penis are so trenchant and care so deeply about controlling the content of the forum.
Your main point about me being too one-sided is that it might make someone feel bad about their penis. This suggests insecurity to me. Why would FR bother someone if they were secure in their cut-up manhood? Why would they even care what I thought? I also believe you're a little more concerned about controlling the content here than I am. I have only gotten angry when you have tried to censor me or discredit me outright. I love to read all the new threads and posts here. I would even enjoy reading your posts if they weren't so boring. Anti-FR or anti-kong is fine, but just make it interesting! You've been retyping the same paragraphs for the last two weeks. We get it! You don't believe in foreskins, foreskin restoration and you don't like kong. Can you maybe get a life now?
I believe you fail to realize that most women are probably ambivelent to the presence of a foreskin (or likely somewhat prejudiced against it in the states) and that it may not dramatically change your sex life because you have invested so much emotion into the benefits of FR. You are switched off to any possibility that it won't do exactly what you've told yourself it will, and will take any information or claim supporting your hopes as gospel.
I have already noted many positive benefits, but since I am not done restoring, my experiences are null and void in your mind, so why debate them with you? I am happy with what I have experienced so far. I do not believe they are psychosomatic. Most of what I have experienced involve the dekeratinization of the glans and better skin mobility. Not miraculous. Just real. And real nice.
Your constant assertion that anybody who questions you is probably sexually insecure is more or less ridiculous. I personally feel this is a case of the paranoid liar, in which those who lie constantly suspect others are never honest with them.
No, my assertion is this: "If you are so secure with your manhood, why does FR bother you?" If you are completely happy with your cut penis, why waste so much time here in the FR forum? AC and I have had words over it before, but you don't see him over here every day trying to disprove it... Now do you?
The above are mostly personal comments, but before you cry foul, please keep in mind that I have been called ignorant, insecure, snobby, ect. on multiple occasions with nothing more than some scattered profanity and emoticons as qualifiers. The above statements are my opinion and not expressed for spite, but clarity.
I hope I have clarified as well. I am not a white collar professional, so don't feel superior because I cuss and I'm not as smart as you. I have just as much right to express myself as you do, so if I think you're an elitist snob who gets his kicks by undermining the efforts of a few guys who want to improve themselves, I have every right to say so, and if I want to cuss a little too, well, we didn't all go to the glorious University of Bull-Shit Snobbery and I'm not always polite. That's just my First Amendment protected right of expression!